[00:00] output of xev for the three buttons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10457887/ [00:00] works fine on another computer - so it is not a hardware problem [00:00] magnulu: test the guest account? [00:01] daftykins: wonderful suggestion - let me try :) === matthew_ is now known as Guest71311 [00:02] magnulu, you can set shortcuts in settings and then press these buttons? [00:02] hello how install .net framework in xubuntu 14.10 ? [00:03] magnulu, They are at Keyboard>Shortcuts [00:04] kitomaza: what specifically are you trying to do? [00:04] daftykins: works in the guest account too [00:04] great [00:04] i want to install and run one progrram Readon tv radio player [00:04] magnulu: ok so it's something in your user's config, is this unity? [00:04] daftykins: no, xubuntu [00:05] kitomaza, install wine i guess > https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17886 [00:05] thanks you [00:05] kitomaza, or mono [00:05] magnulu: hmmm ok, you could try checking out where xfce puts its' config, possibly ~/.config/xfce or similar, then rename that folder to another, log out and back in to see if it fixes it [00:06] daftykins: yeah, I'll try.. anyways, I'm much closer to an answer thanks to your very simple test [00:06] thank you [00:06] my pleasure [00:11] how can i add my windows 7 partition to grub manually? [00:11] run update-grub, it should auto detect it [00:12] I have installed ubuntu on my hdd, but I swapped my motherboard and uefi doesn't recognize it anymore. how can I add the installation to uefi again? [00:12] daftykins: i tried that it detected my linux install but then no volumes found [00:12] !info os-prober [00:12] os-prober (source: os-prober): utility to detect other OSes on a set of drives. In component main, is optional. Version 1.63ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 17 kB, installed size 142 kB [00:13] OerHeks: was that for me? [00:13] Secret-Fire: ^try OerHeks idea [00:14] no volume groups found [00:14] fengshaun: no. so you originally installed in EFI mode? [00:14] daftykins: yea [00:14] ah [00:14] its a clean install not corrupted [00:15] fengshaun: enter it and check what your device is, or try hitting a one-time boot menu key if you have one on power on [00:15] daftykins: what my device is? [00:15] it's installed on /dev/sda3 [00:15] if that's what you mean [00:15] and there is no entry in efi [00:16] you're saying it doesn't list any boot devices being present? [00:16] and what do you mean sda3? is it a dualboot setup? [00:17] it is multiboot [00:17] I have gentoo running too [00:17] and its grub configs are on /dev/sda1 which is /boot [00:17] are you typing from this system now? [00:18] no [00:18] another one [00:18] can you boot a live session from a flash drive? [00:18] yea [00:18] I have ubuntu live running [00:18] fengshaun: "sudo parted -l" show the disk ok? [00:18] yea [00:18] the disk is ok [00:19] what was the first OS on? [00:20] /dev/sda [00:20] ubuntu is on /dev/sdb [00:20] no, which OS was the first installed? :) [00:20] I don't remember [00:21] can I not just add an efi entry? [00:21] you're kinda using terms that you maybe figure make sense, but they actually don't :) so it took a while to grasp what you're saying [00:22] it should just read the disk and be auto, so i haven't seen the need to manually add anything. [00:22] why did you change board? [00:22] defective [00:22] new one on the latest update yet? [00:22] when you first install ubuntu, it does add it [00:23] but I already have it installed [00:23] what? [00:24] I guess I could just reinstall [00:24] have you followed any of these numerous guides online on efibootmgr usage? [00:25] https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Restore_Ubuntu_UEFI_Boot_Entries_after_BIOS_Update [00:25] there's one i found [00:25] daftykins: ah thanks a lot [00:26] np [00:28] Upgrade didn't update the kernel lsb_release -a Ubuntu 14.04.02 uname -a Linux 3.13.0-46 Any Hint? Thanks [00:29] !info linux-generic trusty [00:30] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.46.53 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB [00:30] studentz: 46 is the latest, what do you mean? [00:30] studentz: are you saying you want to run utopic's hardware enablement stack, so the 3.16 kernel? [00:33] daftykins: in the news of the update it's written the kernel will be 3.16. (I'm running Trusty). If it is possible to install the 3.16 kernell will be nice ;) Thanks [00:33] no that's an optional thing [00:34] studentz: do you actually need 3.16? if not, you should stay on 3.13, its supported longer [00:34] you have to elect to use the HWE [00:34] !hwe [00:34] On August 7, 2014, Ubuntu 12.04.5 will deliver the kernel and graphics stack from 14.04. At that time, security updates and bug fixes for older hardware enablement stacks will cease. Users of older hardware enablement stacks are encouraged to update to the 12.04.5 hardware enablement stack or upgrade to 14.04. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL for further details. [00:34] wow that's old [00:34] heh, here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [00:34] GRUB2 won't recognize my windows 7 install, i have tried updating grub and os-prober and i get no volume groups found [00:34] In my laptop yes I have GTK 860 M . [00:35] studentz: that doesn't require 3.16 [00:35] Ben64: yes Nvidia GTX 860M [00:35] it requires something bigger than 3.15 [00:35] studentz: you are wrong [00:35] no it does not [00:37] can someone help me add my win7 install to grub manually? [00:37] Ben:I have tried to run nvidia and everything failed. I stopped doing it. Productivity is more important for me [00:38] studentz: upgrading the kernel won't fix that [00:38] studentz: might help if you actually asked about the problem you're having though [00:38] ^+1 [00:41] Ben: I'm in a list of a Bug-report and I'm not the only one. Some people get lucky using Kernel 3.15 . However; as I told you at this moment productivity is more important. ;) [00:41] studentz: i'm telling you, explain your problem [00:42] studentz: this is an optimus laptop yes? [00:42] yes [00:42] question: do scripts put into /etc/cron.hourly on 14.04 work as intended or is there any additional config I have to put in place to make it work? [00:43] studentz: so then without an nvidia driver installed at all it'll run on the intel, productivity = fine [00:44] nvidia-331 is in 14.04, and supports the 860M [00:44] i'm more getting at it not even being needed [00:44] nouveau might be crapping out though, dunno [00:45] is there any tools that can tell with process consume memory on a time t [00:45] daftykins: yep. I'll try in a couple of months Thanks Waiting for Ubuntu Phone in USA. :) [00:45] yeah i'm just saying, theres probably a way to make it work easily, although i'm about to give up since apparently studentz doesn't want help [00:46] i concur [00:46] p3rror: 'on a time t' ? [00:46] How do I kill this process? http://i.spartanhost.net/s-00-46-11.png kill -9 [PID] doesn't work. [00:47] cuddylier: it is already dead [00:47] Ben64 The port is unbindable though [00:47] No new process can bind to it [00:47] Ben: can u point me to right direction. NP. I want help but my system is stable, and my work is in there. No much time. If u guide me I'll do it [00:47] As if there is a process still on it [00:47] cuddylier: you need to kill its parent then === ubuntu is now known as Guest92943 [00:50] Is there an easy way to install a package from the vivid release through apt-get? [00:50] cuddylier, hint: ps aux | grep 'Z' [00:50] devonblzx: into an earlier version? bad idea. also, all vivid talk in #ubuntu+1 === amaz is now known as Guest53671 [00:50] olaa [00:51] OerHeks: What does the 'Z' stand for? [00:51] zombie [00:51] daftykins: not really vivid talk, I'm just trying to get an updated cgmanager [00:51] http://askubuntu.com/questions/111422/how-to-find-zombie-process [00:51] fl [00:51] Building from source seems to have conflicts [00:51] flw [00:52] devonblzx: installing a version from a different release of ubuntu will cause many more conflicts -- don't do it [00:52] OerHeks: Just shows this: http://i.spartanhost.net/s-00-52-53.png [00:53] cuddylier: how about "ps -o ppid 11912" [00:54] that would be the next step indeed [00:54] cuddylier: and how come you post pictures instead of the text... [00:55] it's the imgur generation, pictures of text are apparently the done thing ;) [00:55] So this is a stupid question [00:55] It says ID 1571 [00:55] hmm [00:56] but is it possible to simulate a ubuntu system having / go read-only? [00:56] natewalck: overlayfs? [00:56] I need to test some odd behvior and replicating the read only state is part of it [00:56] boot recovery mode, that's in read only as default [00:56] natewalck: you could spin up a VM and remount [00:57] I have a VM ready to go [00:57] tried.... [00:57] cuddylier: thats the parent [00:57] sudo mount -f -o remount,ro / [00:57] hmm I see that now, thx [00:57] but no love [00:57] I could still create files, etc [00:57] natewalck: strange. mount output? [00:57] nothing returned [00:57] it acted like it worked [00:58] ^ mount -l after doing remount [00:58] k, let me try that [00:58] /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (ro,errors=remount-ro) [00:58] but I can touch files, etc [00:58] Hi - i got a problem with MusE sequencer software, not recognising the system midi ports. Was fine up until a day ago. Any advice? [00:58] natewalck: are you sure you're in the right mountpoint [00:59] ^ [00:59] should I explicitly specify /dev/sda# [00:59] no... [00:59] natewalck: try -n option [00:59] the VM only has one partition [00:59] / [00:59] -n: mount without mtab [01:00] include -f as well? [01:00] lol, -f is actually "fake" :D [01:00] LOL [01:00] fail [01:00] I got busy without it [01:00] thats funny [01:00] k, says it is busy [01:00] I want to force it [01:01] you don't need to force a remount [01:01] natewalck: sync before? [01:01] sudo mount -n -o remount,ro / [01:01] mount: / is busy [01:01] even with a sync [01:01] no [01:02] sudo mount -o remount,ro /dev/null / [01:02] I need it to have the filesystem there, but read only [01:02] mounting /dev/null would make it mount nothing, right? [01:02] s/null/sda [01:02] no, use /dev/null [01:02] really? [01:02] yep [01:02] if I ls / [01:02] will it show the files? [01:02] yep [01:03] mount: you must specify the filesystem type [01:03] weird [01:04] ^ [01:04] works perfectly here [01:04] maybe you mistyped? [01:04] mount --version? :p [01:04] sudo mount -o remount,ro /dev/null / [01:04] mount from util-linux 2.20.1 (with libblkid and selinux support) [01:06] hrmmm [01:06] 14.04 [01:09] Ben64: I cut and pasted what you wrote [01:09] same deal [01:10] let me try it on a fresh boot [01:10] natewalck: → man mount, I'm out of knowledge [01:14] hi === amine is now known as Guest38235 [01:21] i have a problem with my computer [01:22] details on one line please. [01:22] okay. my broadcom wireless isn't working. Do I need to connect via a blue cable or usb wireless to fetch the nessesary drivers? [01:23] whac-a-retro: what operating system are you on [01:24] Lubuntu 14.04 amd64+mac [01:25] if you have a different usb wireless you should just use that, broadcom is not great [01:26] Hi guys [01:26] hi [01:26] on 14.04 Ubuntu, when I installed KDE, the OS would not run [01:27] should I try to reinstall the kde under unity theme? [01:30] philwong: what exactly did you run? what does "the OS would not run" mean? :) [01:33] Does anyone know of a simply way that I can track how much data I send and receive over eth0 every 24 hours? [01:33] I ran ubuntu in kde environment [01:34] andit went to the desktop and when I click anything it would show a "not responding" alert [01:34] and** [01:34] philwong: run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^ " to check it's all there maybe [01:35] heh, I need help with formatting something in libre office. I use ubuntu (have for about 12 yrs now) but I don't know where else to look for help and it's something I need to figure out right away. [01:36] i think libre has a channel [01:37] <_X_C_V_B_> anyone know to get hostnames working in iredmail? [01:37] They do. There's a #libreoffice. [01:37] daftykins: somehow I assued they didn't I'll look [01:37] thx [01:38] <_X_C_V_B_> I keep getting: < ERROR > Please configure a fully qualified domain name (FQDN) in /etc/hosts before we go further. [01:39] IPJunkie: i believe monitor tools like iftop provide a total amount [01:39] i'm having frequest 100% cpu utilizations with the latest version on ubuntu 14.04 (it also happened with the previous version) - and often times the process is still active and at 100% even after quitting [01:39] anyone have any ideas? i don't think its an errant extension - i only have RES installed (for reddit) [01:39] _X_C_V_B_: install 'pastebinit' then run "pastebinit /etc/hosts" [01:39] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: ok [01:39] the above is related to firefox oopsie ^^^ [01:40] Thanks, Squall5668. I'll check their man pages. [01:42] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: I got it (I think) [01:42] it should've given you a link to paste here [01:45] _X_C_V_B_: ? [01:46] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: It's working [01:46] it's still installing pastebinit? [01:46] or you made the edit already... [01:48] I managed to get Ubuntu on a baytrail tablet [01:48] Too bad the touchscreen is broken [01:49] <[FR]Dae> lxscreenshot [01:49] <[FR]Dae> =) [01:50] Hah, I took actual pictures [01:50] http://i.imgur.com/drvptqK.jpg [01:51] Managed to install refind and used that to boot an ia32 grub who I used to boot the kernel/initrd by hand [01:52] <[FR]Dae> great job ! [01:52] <[FR]Dae> ubuntu touch ? [01:52] NikolaiToryzin: ok, but this is a support channel not show-and-tell :) [01:52] !touch [01:52] Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [01:53] daftykins: I was hoping you'd know where I could find a kernel module for the touchscreen :) [01:53] It's standard Ubuntu not touch btw [01:53] <[FR]Dae> so nothing run ? [01:53] yeah i can tell, i was responding to the question of what touch is, sort of. [01:54] i don't have a clue about touch screens. [01:54] It runs, it's just really really hard to use [01:57] my ubuntu skips over the grub menu and i can't choose the option I want. how can i fix this? Thanks === andrew__1 is now known as OShobbit [01:57] frib: hold shift [01:59] it's not broken, that's what it's meant to do. [01:59] shift doesn't seem to work [02:00] well, it really should. Just make sure you are holding it after the post screen. You can change it permanently by changing the timeout of grub [02:00] frib: Uefi system; grub recognizes the escape key . [02:01] or what Bashing-om said, haven't used Uefi [02:01] ok ill try it [02:03] what does Ign mean when doing apt-get update [02:03] anyone know? [02:03] Im guessing Ignore, but not sure [02:04] VolUTFan: correct. there were no changes, so it won't download them [02:06] bingo!!! we have a winner.. Squall thanks for the confirm. Just wanted to be sure. I collectivally took us.archive.ubuntu.com and the other ubuntu repos along with some 3rd party repos and mirrored them locally to a usb drive ext4 using apt-mirror, then modded the sources.list file to point to the local apache2 directory. then of course used apt-get update to hit it. Wanted to be sure it was ok [02:08] /70/36 [02:08] v [02:14] Hi here in the 3rd step https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/swsusp-and-swap-files.txt . I have / encrypted luks, no swap partition and a swap file inside the /. Will resume work if I add the parameters of the swap file [02:14] ? [02:19] hi all. I've just installed a GTx 960 video card. Ive plugged two monitors in via the two DVI outward sockets. After restarting, I'm only seeing one active screen. How do I enable twinview? === CharlotteFields is now known as Guest67535 [02:20] evening all will badblocks and a fsck afterwards mark hdd sectors bad so that windows wont use them or just so that ubuntu wont use them [02:20] and the other thing is... should I use the proprietatry vendor drivers? Or just leave the drivers that my ubuntu box is using by default? [02:21] FriGiN: both totally pointless actions [02:21] What are you doing with your PC? Are you gaming or doing 3d modeling? [02:21] geomyidae_: me? [02:21] Well, either way, the free drivers would always hang for me, so that may give you your answer anyway. [02:21] Yes. [02:21] bobdobbs: you'll need a pretty recent driver yes, probably 346 from xorg-edgers [02:22] bobdobbs: install that before trying to resolve the screens [02:22] hi geomyidae_ . Possibly a little gaming. But I just wanted lots of headroom for my day-to-day use. [02:22] Well, I guess w/ nvidia I'd say "go proprietary" === Guest67535 is now known as CharlotteFields [02:22] geomyidae_: that use includes running lots of things in the browser, including testing browser animations. [02:23] but I don't know enough about AMD/flgrx to say otherwise [02:23] ok [02:23] well, Chrome expects a hardware accelerated desktop these days in some cases... and you'll certainly be sad w/o it [02:23] yeah [02:24] besides, I tax my onboard CPU a lot. So I wanted to take some pressure of my previous video card, which is an old, low-end [02:24] * old, low end gtx (I think) [02:24] hi [02:25] geomyidae_: downloading prop drivers from nvidia now [02:25] GL! [02:25] GL ? [02:25] bobdobbs: that is a bad move, i've already stated the best way. [02:26] GL = good luck [02:26] add the xorg-edgers PPA, update your package lists, install nvidia-346 [02:26] I hope "downloading prop drivers" = using ppa [02:26] daftykins: you recommend going with the open-source drivers? [02:26] bobdobbs: daftykins is right [02:26] no, read what i said. [02:26] your card won't work with nouveau [02:26] ok, reading back and digesting... === dm7freek_ is now known as dm7freek [02:27] it might not mean a lot if you don't know what a "PPA" is [02:27] which is the point where you begin asking questions :) [02:27] but it's a package source that will enable you to pull a "good" deb of the nvidia drivers [02:27] rather than using nvidia's installer/etc [02:27] oh yeah, I know what PPA is [02:27] ok [02:29] hmmm.... I'm getting an interesting warning from apt about installing that particular PPA [02:29] http://pastebin.com/7MjGzEFa [02:30] what did you run? precisely. [02:32] i don't see anything to be concerned about [02:33] I'm looking at this banner after running 'add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa' [02:33] I didn't hit 'y' [02:33] so... if I read that right, installing this PPA could cause issues, and I should compile the driver I want from source? [02:33] hey, sorry. I fell off the network for a bit (jiggled cable) [02:33] dod [02:33] i have been thinking of installing ubuntu 14.04 on my imac but i have heard a lot about heat issues and stressing the computer. anyone have any opinions on this? [02:33] did I miss anything? [02:34] <_X_C_V_B_> how do I disable https redirect in nginx in iredmail [02:34] bobdobbs`: i don't see anything to be concerned about [02:34] bobdobbs`: ppa is the best option for something that isn't in the ubuntu repositories [02:34] bobdobbs`: no, it just says that you shouldn't grab a random package and install it. You are fine [02:34] I'm guessing this is for cutting edge xorg packages? [02:34] _X_C_V_B_: why would you choose to avoid encryption 0o [02:35] Ben64: is there a way to tell if drivers for my new video card aren't already in the default repos? [02:35] bobdobbs`: they aren't [02:36] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: where's the config file [02:36] Ben64: interesting. [02:36] bobdobbs`: for the love of tux, i told you to do what you're doing for a reason. just do it already! [02:36] is there any reason why ttyS0 wouldn't be in /sys/devices/platform/serial8250/tty ? [02:37] daftykins: your help is much appreciated, honestly. I just prefer to do a little googling and stuff before I commit to doing an action where I have no idea what side effects may exist. [02:37] daftykins: Like, I'm pretty used to ubuntu. But I'm no expert on video drivers. [02:38] join ##politics [02:38] join /##politics [02:38] bobdobbs`: ok, but nvidia maxwell cards are not supported by any default repo driver, hence the above action. i've told many a person this process and all do fine [02:38] wtf [02:38] laughingtiger: the slash goes first. [02:38] I just keep seeing little things that tell me that *maybe* I should be concerned about side-effects, cos of things like the message at the top of this page: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/source/xorg-edgers-ppa/ [02:38] laughingtiger: also, use the status window so you don't embarass yourself ;) [02:38] daftykins, thank you [02:39] been away from irc for a while [02:39] I'm trying to set a ubuntu box to wake up when the serial modem rings (reducing power of a fax server) The box wakes up when completely off and the modem rings, but I can't get it to wake from suspend when the modem rings. [02:39] bobdobbs`: don't go there, go - https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [02:40] daftykins: thanks [02:40] after a little research, I found that you can enable wakeup in /sys/devices/platform/serial8250/tty/ttyS0/power/wakeup , but ttyS0 isn't in that folder [02:41] daftykins: does it matter that I'm using 12.04? [02:41] no [02:41] look at the lower section, the filter has 'precise' which is 12.04 [02:42] so add the PPA via the guide on that page, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-346" [02:42] oh, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-346 nvidia-settings" is a tad better as you get the GUI program too then [02:42] cool. I'll do it [02:42] cool [02:43] I thnk I've got that program already. I've used it to config twinview before [02:43] <_X_C_V_B_> wait [02:43] <_X_C_V_B_> It doesn't redirect [02:43] Ben42_, and Ben64 are brothers? [02:43] clones! [02:44] we don't tell outsiders how we make more volunteers [02:44] * daftykins whistles [02:44] o.0 [02:49] daftykins, :D === megabit|away is now known as megabitdragon [02:51] hey daftykins! I completed downloading that driver! should I reboot now and expect something? or should I start trying to do config? [02:52] restart to load it [02:52] gfdasbhgjkasnhlg [02:52] cool. Imma gonna reboot now. back shortly! [02:52] ubuntu is a scheme [02:52] is microsoft company linux disguised [02:53] ubuntu is from miscrosoft, dont trust ubuntu [02:53] they are just doing exactly the thing microsoft do [02:53] they sell stuff [02:53] irn4l: better than you have tried, give up whilst you haven't embarassed yourself much. [02:53] think a bit dude [02:53] linux is a free thing, is open source, why the heell should someone need to sell it? [02:53] is a material of study [02:54] * daftykins yawns [02:54] irn4l: Please help keep this channel on-topic (Ubuntu-related technical support). If you'd like to discuss Ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks. [02:54] is for people to learn a bit more of the language that comunicates with the hardware of the computer [02:54] is something just like a language [02:54] no one need to sell nothing like ubuntu do [02:54] irn4l: Hi, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic [02:54] ubuntu is a scheme [02:55] where they they jsut to profit from a thing that is free and will ever be fre for eternety [02:55] bye [02:55] oh... nothing happend. I got excited for no reason [02:56] alright, nothing to see here, let's get back to support. :) [02:57] daftykins: hai! I'm back! [02:57] but I have no X! [02:58] when I restarted, I got bumped into [02:58] plain old terminal screen. [02:58] still there? [02:58] I tried "startx" on the commandline, but that errored out [02:58] yeah you don't want to run that, ever [02:59] sudo service lightdm start [02:59] oh [02:59] hangover from the bad old days. manuall config'ing X in redhat distros [03:00] ;] [03:01] bobdobbs: pastebin the output of the following commands.... "dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia" .... "lsmod" .... "ls -ld /var/lib/dkms/*/" [03:04] @dafty: its me, bobdobbs under a different alia [03:04] mantis_: pastebin the output of the following commands.... "dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia" .... "lsmod" .... "ls -ld /var/lib/dkms/*/" [03:04] I've moved to a different computer === megabitdragon is now known as megabit|away [03:05] Ben64: I can't. afer trying to start lightdm, all I get is a blank screen with a blinking cursor [03:05] so switch back to a TTY with ctrl+alt+F1? [03:06] I've tried that. all the same: blank screens, blinking cursors [03:07] all the TTY's are the same. [03:08] I could do a hard reboot. But that'd leave me with the same problem: no X, no way to start lightdm [03:08] but you could pastebin stuff [03:09] ^ [03:09] not without a browser [03:09] don't need a browser [03:09]