[10:01] <alket> kubuntu 15.04 doesn't have audio for me
[10:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:47] <alket> good morning
[10:48] <lordievader> Hey alket 
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <alket-tab> Hi i cant boot
[12:30] <alket-tab> Only black screen
[12:30] <alket-tab> Pls help
[12:32] <BluesKaj> alket-tab, try holding the left shift key down after the bios page
[12:33] <BluesKaj> immediately after 
[12:33] <BluesKaj> grub should appear
[12:37] <alket> thanks BluesKaj
[12:37] <alket> i wen one kernel down
[12:38] <alket> alsi I dont have audio :s
[12:39] <BluesKaj> alket, which kubuntu ?
[12:40] <alket> 15.04
[12:41] <lordievader> alket: Shall we more to #ubuntu+1? This is not a user support channel.
[15:07] <soee> hiho, i see kernel 3.19 has been added :)
[16:17] <alket> soee: yes that kernel is a bit problematic with nvidia
[16:17] <alket> i get black screen
[16:20] <BluesKaj> no nvidia problems here with 3.19
[16:22] <alket> I use xorg edgers
[16:22] <alket> because without nvidia-346-updates, its useless for me
[16:29] <sitter> Riddell: are ye here?
[16:31] <soee> makin nvidia driver to work in vivid is almost impossible
[16:37] <alket> how come soee ?
[16:37] <alket> bcs of wayland ?
[16:37] <Riddell> hi sitter 
[16:38] <BluesKaj> alket, xedgers support is behind the curve mostly 
[16:39] <alket> well it worked well for me in 14.10
[16:39] <alket> without xorg, i get a very lows FPS on games
[16:41] <sitter> Riddell: forgot what I wanted.. ah yeah, did you talk to the l10n people about documentation?
[16:42] <sitter> Riddell: also, your log creating tool is very dumb it doesn't even do html escaping :S
[16:42] <sitter> good news is that latter I can fix with some 50 lines of proper code 
[16:43] <Riddell> sitter: log creating tool? that's just a for loop over git log --oneline isn't it?
[16:43] <Riddell> sitter: no I've failed to talk about docs, it's on my todo
[16:43] <alket> is kdevelop 4.7 coming to vivid ?
[16:44] <sitter> Riddell: and then generates html from that and the html is 99% of the time not standard compliant because html markup characters are not escaped
[16:44] <sitter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10489286/
[16:48] <soee> alket: no, sddm lightdm etc. 
[16:48] <soee> nvidia-prime broken for iptimus tech laptops
[16:48] <alket> yes, it showed me like that when i was installing
[16:48] <soee> *optimus
[16:48] <alket> I jsut clicked at something xD
[16:49] <Riddell> sitter: fair point, the output is intended to be human edited but stuff like that can be fixed easier with some code indeed
[16:53] <sitter> Riddell: I wrote a dirty logme.rb. completely untested and very naughty code. just in case you fancy testing that on an existing release_data
[16:53]  * sitter actually things such a log should be an artifact created by tarme anyway
[17:15] <alket> dobule clicking in windows headers doesn't maximise it
[17:23] <KDDA> alket: how are you getting on, anything major?
[17:23] <alket> what do you mean ?
[17:23] <KDDA> with 15.04
[17:24] <KDDA> have you found any major issues?
[17:24] <alket> well, just the Maximise window thing
[17:24] <alket> and also sometimes Dolphin crashes when i want to edit a file with kate
[17:25] <soee> alket: it gets broken sometimes but i dont know why, for me works fine for most of the time, than somme app od other thing mages it broken
[17:25] <soee> hardto investigate
[17:26] <alket> well i think it happens to me when i do: kdesu kate 
[17:26] <alket> then for w hile it crashes
[18:14] <yofel> nvidia 340.76 works fine for me so far in vivid (sadly my card got retired so I'm stuck with that)
[18:15] <soee> yofel: does it have dependency to lightdm ?
[18:15] <yofel> I'm using sddm, but I only have one GPU
[18:18] <BluesKaj> I don't see the 3.19 kernel ppl are complaining about, guess I don't have correct repos
[18:18] <soee> BluesKaj: it was todayin updates
[18:18] <BluesKaj> dodd I didn't see it
[18:18] <BluesKaj> err odd :)
[18:18] <soee> yofel: but nvidia-prime or nvidia driver has lightdm deps ?
[18:20] <yofel> nvidia-prime depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm
[18:20] <yofel> and I do have lightdm installed, I'm just not using it
[18:20] <soee> BluesKaj: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/01/worksace11.png
[18:21] <yofel> hm, 3.19.0-7 already
[18:22] <BluesKaj> nope, 3.18 here
[18:22] <soee> well ill wait a bit, maybe my bugreport will get some attention (@ nvidia-prime)
[18:22] <BluesKaj> no ppas here, and partners is commented
[18:22] <soee> BluesKaj: prbably different mirror ?
[18:22] <soee> im using the main server
[18:23] <BluesKaj> usually the ca.archives are up to date 
[18:24] <BluesKaj> i'm in no hurry to break my setup anyway :)
[19:31] <soee> hmm
[19:32] <soee> fontconfig/ and logs/ dirs in home are related to new konversation ?
[19:35] <sitter> logs is, fontconfig/ sounds very wrong though
[19:39] <soee> in fontconfig there is a lot of hashed names .cache-3 files
[20:08] <alket> Dolphin crashing got too anyoning now
[20:10] <soee> alket: when doing what ?
[20:11] <alket> almost anything
[20:11] <shadeslayer> sitter: the ruby json module is stupid
[20:12] <shadeslayer> doesn't even know how to serialize classes
[20:12] <shadeslayer> I had to use a gem
[20:12] <sitter> >
[20:12] <sitter> ?
[20:12] <soee> alket: on Vivid ?
[20:12] <alket> yes
[20:13] <alket> brb have to go, will be back soon
[20:13] <shadeslayer> sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10492017/
[20:15] <sitter> ehm
[20:15] <sitter> dump needs backing in the class
[20:15] <shadeslayer> yeah exactly
[20:15] <shadeslayer> >> YAML.dump magic
[20:15] <shadeslayer> => "--- !ruby/object:Magic\nmagic: magic\n"
[20:15] <sitter> http://www.rubydoc.info/stdlib/json/JSON#dump-class_method
[20:16] <shadeslayer> so the JSON module is just stupid
[20:16] <sitter> no you just don't know how to read documentation
[20:16] <sitter> yaml and json do not feature the same API
[20:18] <shadeslayer> "This method is part of the implementation of the load/dump interface of Marshal and YAML."
[20:18] <shadeslayer> wat
[20:18] <shadeslayer> that sounds wrong
[20:18] <shadeslayer> surely that should say JSON
[20:18] <shadeslayer> sitter: they don't but if YAML can dump arbitary objects, then JSON should be able to too
[20:19] <shadeslayer> surely they have access to the same data
[20:20] <sitter> shadeslayer: http://www.rubydoc.info/stdlib/json/JSON.generate
[20:20] <sitter> [21:16] <sitter> no you just don't know how to read documentation
[20:20] <sitter> why are you messing with object dumping again anyway
[20:20] <sitter> are you sending objects over the network again?
[20:21] <shadeslayer> I needed to dump data into JSON
[20:21] <shadeslayer> from my classes
[20:21] <shadeslayer> as a static file
[20:21] <sitter> why?
[20:21] <shadeslayer> JSON::GeneratorError: only generation of JSON objects or arrays allowed
[20:21] <shadeslayer> sitter: data for a website
[20:23] <sitter> Oo
[20:23] <sitter> database?
[20:35] <shadeslayer> sitter: what I suggested as well
[20:46] <sitter> shadeslayer: but?
[20:46] <shadeslayer> sitter: they wanted static data :p
[20:48] <sitter> how is a dataship less static than a jsonship?
[20:49] <sitter> https://www.pullreview.com/github/apachelogger/releaseme/reviews/rewrite :'<
[20:57] <BluesKaj> which repos is the 3.19 kernel available from?
[20:58] <BluesKaj> it's not in the ca archive yet
[20:58] <shadeslayer> sitter: dunno
[20:58] <shadeslayer> also what
[20:58] <sitter> shadeslayer: what what
[20:58] <shadeslayer> nvm
[20:58] <shadeslayer> I'm just tired
[21:03] <alket> back
[21:04] <alket> is this Dolphin crash being fixed ?
[21:04] <yofel> doesn't crash here, got a stacktrace?
[21:05] <alket> well , idk how to get one
[21:06] <yofel> no drkonqi?
[21:06] <yofel> hm
[21:07] <yofel> maybe ~/.xsession-errors will have something when it happens
[21:18] <alket> that file is very big
[21:18] <alket> also no audio, amarok has it but not games
[21:38] <KDDA> dolpin is fine with me too
[21:45] <shadeslayer> sitter: we should rewrite our tooling in ruby
[21:45] <shadeslayer> erm
[21:45] <shadeslayer> crysttal I Mean
[21:45] <shadeslayer> sitter: http://crystal-lang.org/
[21:46] <sitter> sure
[21:48] <alket> anyone wants to help me with audio ?
[21:59] <alket> fixed
[22:07] <KDDA> what was wrong with audio alket?
[22:26] <alket> i fixed it
[23:58] <valorie> o/ from my vivid lappy
[23:59] <KDDA> hi valorie
[23:59] <alket> hint: dolphin doesn't swim :p