[00:00] <bprompt_> he may try checking /etc/X11 for any xorg.conf files.... in "recovery mode", and remove it, or just "mv" it to somewhere in case it may need to put it back, then boot back up
[00:01] <VolUTFan> what would he be looking for specifically
[00:01] <VolUTFan> and how to tell if its in recovery mode
[00:05] <VolUTFan> there is a file called xorg.conf.failsafe, but its the only xorg.conf file i see in the /etc/X11/ directory
[00:06] <VolUTFan> would that indicate recovery mode?
[00:08] <bprompt> VolUTFan:    once in the root shell, the system gets mounted as read-only, so you have to set ti to RW  with -> mount -o remount,rw /   <-- and then you do whatever else
[00:08] <bprompt> anyhow.. he could that I gather from a liveUSB session as well
[00:09] <VolUTFan> according to what I am reading, there is no longer a xorg.conf file in the /etc/x11 dir anymore
[00:09] <VolUTFan> i know I don't have one either
[00:10] <bprompt> VolUTFan:     right.. but you said his was an update... and depending on whatever he may have had installed, one may have been created by a package installation
[00:10] <bprompt> s/update/upgrade/
[00:11] <VolUTFan> so what were you referring to by the commands above?
[00:11] <bprompt> well....  have him check for an xorg.conf   and remove if there, and reboot
[00:12] <VolUTFan> even the xorg.conf.failsafe file?
[00:12] <VolUTFan> in etc/x11
[00:12] <bprompt> sure
[00:12] <VolUTFan> ok
[00:13] <bprompt> just an "mv", don't have to rm it, so if anything, can always put it back
[00:20] <VolUTFan> understood bprompt.  good idea!
[00:20] <VolUTFan> that was done just now
[00:57] <VolUTFan> what is the default lightdm or sddm in 14.10 kubuntu with plasma4
[00:57] <qdata> lightdm
[01:00] <VolUTFan> if a new user is created and they login and there is nothing except white, no kicker panel, no icons, no nothing, could that indicate a problem with lightdm
[01:01] <qdata> I think so, I'm no expert but I gave seen that if I enter a wrong password everything stops with no way to proceed, so I know of at least that is wrong w/lightdm
[01:17] <VolUTFan> i have a 13.10 version in vbox.  what is the command from terminal to bring me upto 14.10
[01:21] <VolUTFan> i don't want 15.x, just doing some testing
[01:25] <VolUTFan> nm found it.  problem was the apt update
[01:25] <VolUTFan> im doing the dist-upgrade now
[10:11] <zeki> hi i've installed plasma 5 on kubuntu 14.10, there are two issues that i cant find a solution on int. the wallpaper selection dialog is not working properly, images are not visible and navigation through is not wotking
[10:13] <zeki> plus desktop view is not working too, nothing different than palsma desktop + no icons over there
[10:13] <zeki> anyone experiencing the same issue?
[10:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:06] <VolUTFan> Morning ya'll
[13:06] <lordievader> o/
[13:06] <VolUTFan> hey lordie
[13:19] <VolUTFan> I started an upgrade on my 13.04 vbox kub last night doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  This morning it was at 13.10.  I thought it would bring me upto 14.04.  What did I do wrong lol
[13:19] <VolUTFan> i was actually expecting to see 14.10, yet alas...  13.10
[13:20] <VolUTFan> oh oh oh i know what I did wrong...  "It was me that tried to do the upgrade"  lol
[13:20] <VolUTFan> no seriously, anyone know what happened
[13:21] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Nothing went wrong, 13.04 cannot upgrade directly to 14.04.
[13:21] <VolUTFan> ahh... and there it is!!  LOL
[13:22] <VolUTFan> so, there is an upgrade path to get to 14.10
[13:22] <VolUTFan> got it...  good information
[13:22] <VolUTFan> thanks lordie
[13:23] <VolUTFan> lordie, is there a log for the root crontab?  I am curious if some jobs run that I moved over last night
[13:24] <VolUTFan> where would I look
[13:25] <lordievader> VolUTFan: It can email you... so it probably ends up in the local root mail.
[13:29] <VolUTFan> according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log you use "grep CRON /var/log/syslog" but the only entry I see is Mar  1 08:17:02 Chewbacca CRON[14471]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) which only tells me  nothing really
[13:29] <VolUTFan> still looking
[13:29] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Login as root and run 'mail'.
[13:32] <VolUTFan> I figured it out.  it will be in /etc/cron.hourly most likely, but I moved the times to 1700 est
[13:33] <VolUTFan> nothing is going to be in there yet
[13:33] <VolUTFan> I forgot about moving the time.  I checked crontab -l
[13:34] <lordievader> VolUTFan: "nothing is going to be in there yet" what do you mean with that?
[13:34] <VolUTFan> going to check mail now lol
[13:34] <VolUTFan> good point lordie
[13:35] <VolUTFan> brb
[14:22] <VolUTFan> since avcov is no longer in 14.10, what replaced it?
[14:22] <VolUTFan> **avconv I mean
[14:22] <lordievader> ffmpeg is back, or so I've heared.
[14:23] <VolUTFan> interesting.  its not in the default install.  just tried the command.  Let me see if it will install
[14:24] <BluesKaj> yes ffmpeg is back on 15.04
[14:25] <BluesKaj> in the repos
[14:25] <VolUTFan> oh, im at 14.10
[14:26] <VolUTFan> so, in 14.10, there is neither avconv or ffmpeg.  Is avconv in 15.04?
[14:27] <VolUTFan> is 15.04 in stable release?
[14:27] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Not yet.
[14:27] <VolUTFan> ok, I will hold on that for now
[14:28] <VolUTFan> I may put it on my vbox to test
[14:38] <proteusguy> Just did a apt-get update on my kubuntu trusty. Now my Network Manager is broken (although my existing network settings still work) and my Audio manager things I have no audio device (which I haven't been able to confirm as I have no speakers hooked up at the moment). This is for 14.04 Kubuntu on a Dell XPS-16 laptop. Been running Kubuntu on it for almost 3 years steadily now.
[14:39] <proteusguy> Also did an apt-get autoremove as well... not sure which one broke it
[14:43] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, try a dist-upgrade
[14:47] <roshan> hi
[14:48] <roshan> Im new to kubuntu and install netbeans on /home and need to create a dektop shortcut
[14:54] <BluesKaj> roshan, drag it to the desktop afaik
[14:57] <BluesKaj> roshan, yes choose the icon option
[14:58] <BluesKaj> no need to pm , we can talk about it in here , we can all help that way roshan
[14:59] <roshan> i installed it from downloading and running the netbeans.sh file
[15:00] <roshan> and draged and droped netbeans from the bin folder
[15:00] <roshan> to desktop but no icon for it
[15:01] <BluesKaj> dunno anything about netbeans, does it have a launcher or does it use a browser etc/
[15:03] <roshan> its jst a launcher , what i want to no is in kumuntu when u add shortcut to desktop the icon image does not come
[15:03] <roshan> its jst a launcher , what i want to no is in kubuntu when u add shortcut to desktop the icon image does not come
[15:03] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, dist-upgrade? You mean upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, dist-upgrade just upgrades your existing packages , it's not a release upgrade
[15:05] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, how does one do a dist-upgrade then? :-) Thanx.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> doesn't upgrade to 14.0
[15:05] <BluesKaj> 14.10
[15:05] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[15:06] <BluesKaj> oops dist-upgrade
[15:07]  * BluesKaj needs a break ..eyes need a rest
[15:09] <roshan> BluesKaj, its jst a launcher , what i want to no is in kubuntu when u add shortcut to desktop the icon image does not come
[15:12] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, dist-upgrade found nothing to do. I'm all upgraded into this broken mess. :(
[15:14] <VolUTFan> lordie, may I please post a link for informational value?  Its a youtube video of minix, which if very interesting so far on the topic of creating a new operating system.  It may be beneficial for review.  It is about an hour long.  Was sent to me yesterday and I am watching it now
[15:14] <VolUTFan> not sure if anyone knows about minix or not
[15:15] <VolUTFan> i just thought that some folks may be interested in the information contained in the video
[15:15] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, minix is offtopic for this chat
[15:16] <VolUTFan> I get that part, but information is information
[15:16] <lordievader> VolUTFan: No, as BluesKaj Minix is not Kubuntu, post it in #kubuntu-offtopic or something.
[15:17] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, that's what google is for
[15:18] <VolUTFan> Blue, thanks..  I will make sure to ask their CEO
[15:18] <VolUTFan> I will post that link in the offtopic channel if anyone wants to look
[15:18] <VolUTFan> Humor guys...  HUMOR..  It makes work easier!
[15:18] <VolUTFan> :)
[15:19] <VolUTFan> I am one of those guys that just has to smile and laugh.
[15:20] <roshan> BluesKaj ok i found out thanks just right clicked on the file on desktop and clicked the icon then u can upload any icon
[15:20] <VolUTFan> are you guys in europe?  I am in the USA
[15:20] <hypokrit_> how to check in console if my hd is full
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Canada here
[15:21] <VolUTFan> Dang Blues..  I bet your burried in snow
[15:21] <VolUTFan> I am down in TN
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hypokrit_, sudo fdisk -l
[15:22] <VolUTFan> we got about 20 inches of snow
[15:22] <hypokrit_> thanx
[15:22] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:22] <VolUTFan> Blues, I just posted the link a few minutes ago, did you see it?
[15:22] <VolUTFan> it was in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[15:26] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, any more ideas? No idea how to deal with Kubuntu losing track of it's network & sound configuration controls.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, hda-intel audio ? and does your internet connection still work , if so just rightclick on the desktop add widget and type in network management and drag the icon into the panel
[15:33] <VolUTFan> do any of you guys know what on earth would cause a completely white screen when you log into Kubuntu 14.10 as a new user
[15:33] <VolUTFan> it was happening to a user yesterday I was trying to help out
[15:34] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, it says "NetworkManager 0.9.8 required found ."
[15:35] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, and yes, hda-intel audio I believe. Network still works, just the network manager shows everything missing/off. Can't confirm audio works as have no speakers here.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> then run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , thiws bug is very common after upgrades, there will be no output from the command if the driver loads properly , and a reboot is usually required
[15:36] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, ^
[15:36] <VolUTFan> this is theory proteus, but during my windows systems administrator position, I ran across times where that would happen on a server box.  I had to remove the driver for the network card and readd it, because it freaked out.  Once I did that, it worked fine again.  So to apply that in theory, could it be possible that your network card driver in Kubuntu could be problematic and remove and readd it?
[15:36] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, when I hover over the widget in the add widget selection it claims to be 0.9.3.3
[15:37] <proteusguy> VolUTFan, no the network is working find. Command line controls are good. It's just the networkmanager thinks there's no network.
[15:38] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, no output on the modprobe. And I've rebooted several times already.
[15:38] <VolUTFan> oh i see what your talking about.  It is the wrapper utility that isn't finding the network.  Got it.  Its blind to the fact there is a connection
[15:38] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[15:38] <VolUTFan> good idea Blues
[15:38] <VolUTFan> omg, my vbox for my kub test system is SLOWWWWW.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> yes, but that loads the driver properly proteusguy no mater how many reboots were doine before
[15:39] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, looks promising... time to reboot. brb
[15:41] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, vbox is ok if a little clunky , gotta give it more memory and diskpace than the recommendations
[15:42] <VolUTFan> As so I noticed LOL
[15:44] <BluesKaj> I liked kvm-qemu a lot for running W7 as a guest , but the LAN networking on windows was non existent
[15:45] <BluesKaj> no homegroup etc
[15:47] <VolUTFan> is there still a vmware-player package for Kub?
[15:47] <VolUTFan> I couldn't find vmware-server package for Kub when I was looking for it a couple of weeks back
[15:48] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, weird, apt-get said it was installing v 0.9.8.8 of network-manager but when I try to install the widget it still says it's 0.9.3.3. How do I make this thing go away?!?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, as a temporary measure, in krunner/run command, kdesudo dolphin /usr/bin , find and click nm-applet
[15:59] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, there is a vmware-manager pkg in the repos, but I imagine it's for their proprietary/paid linux version of the pkg
[16:00] <VolUTFan> at one time, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.  LOL, I found the vmware-server package, but they must have went to paid
[16:00] <BluesKaj> there was afree vmware player version iirc
[16:06] <VolUTFan> iirc is the name of the package?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> no, iirc is short for "if I remember correctly"
[16:09] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, Idon't see vmware player anywhere nowadays
[16:10] <VolUTFan> what is kvm-qemu?  Is it like vbox or vmware-player?
[16:10] <VolUTFan> never used it before
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !qemu
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !kvm
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !qemu-kvm
[16:14] <proteusguy> How do I remove widgets from the panel? I've got a few dead ones I need to clear off.
[16:15] <proteusguy> I see add-widget but nothing about remove-widget.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> pro click on the cashew on right then move your cursor over the widget and popup with an X will show , click the X
[16:15] <BluesKaj> proteusguy,^
[16:16] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, it's actually qemu-kvm in the package manager
[16:19] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, many thanx.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> np
[16:33] <VolUTFan> Blues, I installed the qemu-kvm app, how do I launch it
[16:39] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, in the kmenu>setrtings>virtualizer
[16:39] <BluesKaj> err apps>settings
[16:40] <VolUTFan> interesting...  I don't see it
[16:40] <BluesKaj> oops I'm all mucked up apps system>virt
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ikeep most  favs in favs, so forget
[16:41] <VolUTFan> i still don't see it in apps/system/virt
[16:41] <VolUTFan> interesting
[16:41] <VolUTFan> but I do know its installed.  Used package manager
[16:42] <BluesKaj> libvirt or some such, check that it's installed
[16:42] <VolUTFan> maybe it would require a log off and back on?
[16:42] <VolUTFan> what is the command from the terminal to launch it?
[16:43] <VolUTFan> maybe, I can just launch it that way for now?  I just wanted to see what it looks like
[16:44] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, hang on , I'm reinstalling it , then I'll find it
[16:44] <VolUTFan> thanks Blues.
[16:45] <VolUTFan> its prob something like kvm& or qemu&
[16:47] <BluesKaj> think you're right , it's not there for me either ..rebooting
[16:48] <VolUTFan> okie dokie
[16:51] <alket> is there any PPA for kdevelop
[16:54] <VolUTFan> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kdevelop-4.6  what about this alket
[16:56] <alket> VolUTFan: thanks, but I need 4.7.1
[16:56] <VolUTFan> okie dokie let me look
[16:57] <VolUTFan> what about this?  https://launchpad.net/~rjvbertin/+archive/ubuntu/kdevelop
[16:57] <VolUTFan> there is a dropdown for the repos you can pick your version.  its 4.7, but I would imagine that the install would include, hotfix 1
[16:57] <alket> thanks VolUTFan
[16:58] <VolUTFan> no problem alket
[16:58] <alket> another question
[16:58] <alket> Why when opening directory of current download from Firefox it opens Gwenview instead of Dolphin
[17:00] <VolUTFan> sounds like the file association for whatever you downloaded is associated with gwenview
[17:01] <VolUTFan> what file extension are you trying to open
[17:01] <VolUTFan> hey Blues.. wb
[17:01] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, I found the page i used for 64 bit architecture for 10.04 or later, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation , using this command sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm libvirt-bin ubuntu-vm-builder bridge-utils
[17:01] <VolUTFan> did the qemu ever show up
[17:02] <VolUTFan> yes, I found that same page.
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ran the command and it will install what's not aready there
[17:03] <VolUTFan> did that as well
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:05] <VolUTFan> did the qemu-kvm app ever show up in your app menu
[17:08] <alket> VolUTFan: well I ned everything to open to dolphin , since i do Open Directory
[17:13] <VolUTFan> alket, goto system settings/File Associations.  You can review that there
[17:30] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, ok install virt-manager, odd that one has to scroll to the bottom of the page for the key app :/
[17:30] <VolUTFan> doing that now
[17:32] <BluesKaj> it's in kmenu>apps>system>virtual machine manager , no need to logout
[17:33] <VolUTFan> still installing.  I will check it in a minute.  Ive got my cpu taxed out.  upgrading 1 VM to 14.10 and installing Minix R3 on the other
[17:35] <VolUTFan> i found it...  :)  awesome.  now to add my account to the libvirtd group
[17:36] <BluesKaj> but I have a / and /home partitions and unfortunately / is the default for qemu-kvm guest OS installation and it's only 16G so it's not practical for me ...windows needs more than 10G for proper operation
[17:37] <BluesKaj> tried installing to ./home , but it kept erroring
[17:38] <BluesKaj> err /home
[18:10] <rushilpaul> I'm having a problem with apt-get utility
[18:16] <VolUTFan> whats the problem rush
[18:16] <BluesKaj> apt-get is a package manager, and what's the issue, rushilpaul?
[18:22] <roshan_> has anyone installed android studio on kubuntu
[18:23] <roshan_> getting an error Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool.
[18:50] <roshan_> Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool
[18:50] <roshan_> android studio error
[18:50] <roshan_> has  any one installed the latest version of android studio
[18:51] <BluesKaj> roshan_, ubuntu-touch ?
[18:54] <Stern> Thunderbird is showing the wrong dateformat (mm/dd/yy) in Kubuntu 14.04; not according to the locale setting which is dd/mm/yy. Anyone got a solution?
[19:17] <VolUTFan> Stern, try reading this
[19:17] <VolUTFan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1670601
[19:18] <VolUTFan> I don't use thunderbird personally
[19:41] <Stern> VolUTFan: Thanks, followed the instructions but they didn't help for me. I ended up installing an add-on which solves the problem.
[20:20] <VolUTFan> anyone know how I can make an offline copy of a wiki?
[20:20] <VolUTFan> i may be asking too much on that one lol
[20:25] <sympto> VolUTFan: httrack or wallabag
[20:26] <VolUTFan> thanks sympto.. will check that out
[20:26] <sympto> any1 can tell me why i cant see anything on apple2 screensaver? or at least where to configure it? http://i.imgur.com/nXOsJxA.png
[20:46] <hyper_ch> hmmm, 15.04 beta still has issues with custom partioning like created raid1 with 1 device and manual set encrypted drives
[21:23] <VolUTFan> anyone know how to send a running process to a specific cpu core, like you can in windows using affinity
[21:24] <VolUTFan> im tarring a directory with several GB of data and its eating too much cpu time across my multiple processors.  Its not a priority task, so it wouldn't bother me to isolate it to 1 core, so i can have more cpu for more important tasks
[21:29] <VolUTFan> i found something on the topic
[21:31] <Walex> VolUTFan: 'renice' for CPU
[21:31] <Walex> VolUTFan: and 'man 0-k affinity'
[21:31] <Walex> VolUTFan: and 'man -k affinity'
[21:32] <VolUTFan> thanks walex
[21:33] <Walex> VolUTFan: note that "eating too much cpu time across my multiple processors" is a priority issue not an affinity one.
[21:33] <VolUTFan> how would you suggest I handle that issue ?
[21:33] <Walex> VolUTFan: that's why I suggested 'renice'. Affinity is to minimize cache misses and context swaps across CPUs.
[21:33] <VolUTFan> ive heard of renice, thats about all I know about it
[21:34] <VolUTFan> I will check it out
[21:34] <Walex> or in rare cases affinity is useful when CPUs have slightly different configurations
[21:34] <VolUTFan> what I have is a tri-core
[21:58] <Walex> VolUTFan: same here BTW
[21:59] <Walex> VolUTFan: probably you just use 'renice' and the 'tar' (or rather compression) will go on in the background
[22:02] <VolUTFan> can you give me an example of how you would use renice?
[22:02] <VolUTFan> im reading the man btw, but an example would still be cool
[22:02] <VolUTFan> I guess Blues called it a day.  He must have logged off
[22:04] <VolUTFan> priority range -20 to 19..  wow, um what should I pick?
[22:15] <Walex> VolUTFan: just 'renice $PID'
[22:15] <Walex> VolUTFan: most likely it is not 'tar' that is consuming CPU, it is the compression process if you are compressing.
[22:16] <Walex> VolUTFan: you can 'renice' with 'top', command "r"
[22:16] <VolUTFan> would the compression process be literally listed as "compression"
[22:17] <VolUTFan> so $top, compression "r"
[22:17] <VolUTFan> or is the r the priority
[22:17] <Walex> VolUTFan: no, probably 'gzip' or 'bzip2'
[22:17] <Walex> VolUTFan: just run the command 'top' and it will be clear
[22:19] <VolUTFan> ill take a look
[22:19] <Walex> VolUTFan: but this is Kubuntu, you can do it with KDE: just press Ctrl+ESC and then right click on the process with high CPU and set it low priority
[22:19] <VolUTFan> the slider bar?
[22:19] <Walex> with high CPU%
[22:19] <Walex> VolUTFan: yes.
[22:20] <VolUTFan> i seen that earlier.  that is to renice the process?
[22:20] <Walex> VolUTFan: yes, the same
[22:20] <VolUTFan> oh ok.  I know that then
[22:20] <VolUTFan> thanks
[22:23] <VolUTFan> any idea how I can switch from gui to terminal in kubuntu running inside of vbox?  Usually its ctrl-alt F1
[22:33] <sympto> does at least anybody mess around harder with kscreensaver?
[23:01] <Blueleaf> i have an issue swapping the caps lock and esc keys. I can do it in the GUI but when i ctrl-alt-f1 to a login terminal it is not in effect. i have tried putting a command in my .profile but either that doesnt work or i have the wrong command. any ideas? o
[23:55] <VolUTFan> Im telling ya what..  My connection to my local repos is kick@$$ now that I have used apt-mirror.  I knew it would be fast, but goodness, I didn't expect this kinda speed.
[23:55] <VolUTFan> im even doing an upgrade to my other box, just simply updated my sources.list
[23:57] <VolUTFan> fetched 858 MB in 2min 23s