[02:01] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I am back, This hasn't bothered me but I am in search of a solution. Yesterday I tried sudo reboot, and sudo shutdown -r, and both just boot my pc with flashing _ and the only solution I have to turn off the pc complete and turn it back on, is there a command that does same thing?
[02:03] <Nixus> flashing?
[02:05] <Demon_Jester> yeah when it boots back up there is black background with flashing cursor "_" in the quotes.
[02:05] <Demon_Jester> I could be wrong I will try again.
[06:30] <uzvermode> win 3
[11:16] <dane111> anyone able to help me install xubuntu and answer a few questions please?
[11:17] <klopsi-u3> i am here to help but dont know much
[11:17] <dane111> more then me hopefully
[11:18] <dane111> i've got an empty drive that i want to install on, if I just choose that drive to install to, will whatever partitions I need be created automatically or do I need to do it myself?
[11:19] <klopsi-u3> google says "you can make a new partition"
[11:19] <klopsi-u3> do you want to dual boot windows and xubuntu?
[11:20] <dane111> ok, and do you know if more is involved if im installing on a uefi system instead of bios?
[11:21] <dane111> well i've windows installed already, but i'm on going through bios setup and then change boot order when I want to use xubuntu, as i won't be using it that often
[11:21] <dane111> but im planning on*
[11:21] <klopsi-u3> ah so xubuntu gets its own drive?
[11:22] <dane111> yes, but i'd also like to make partitions on that drive, to store system independent files. ie music videos etc.
[11:22] <dane111> so i could  access a music library etc no matter what os Im in.
[11:23] <klopsi-u3> yes good plan, unfortunately i have no efi experience (running with compatibility module here)
[11:23] <dane111> ok,
[11:23] <dane111> think i'll just dive in and give it a shot ;)
[11:24] <dane111> disconnect windows drives, so worst case I just wipe the linux hard drive and start again. and again.. ad nauseum
[11:25] <dane111> but yeah I wasn't sure if xubuntu makes its own partitions for boot, /, swap etc or whether ill have to do it manually? but i guess ill find out.
[11:26] <klopsi-u3> i would select in the installer to manually partition the disk so you can set up your data drive
[11:26] <klopsi-u3> possibly also make two identical partitions for xubuntu
[11:26] <klopsi-u3> so you can use dd to make a backup
[11:26] <dane111> dd?
[11:27] <klopsi-u3> dd lets you make a byte-for-byte copy of one partition to another
[11:27] <klopsi-u3> or one partition to a file
[11:27] <dane111> ok.
[11:27] <dane111> is dd a linux command or how do I use that. or what is that?
[11:27] <klopsi-u3> it is a linux shell command
[11:28] <dane111> ok, so three partitions, two for linux, and one for data, and then i can 'dd' from one partition to the other. is that right?
[11:28] <klopsi-u3> yeah i like to do it that way
[11:29] <klopsi-u3> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/drive-and-partition-backups-with-dd/
[11:29] <dane111> instead of re-installing, bit quicker?
[11:29] <klopsi-u3> well it lets me experiment more with less worry about breaking things
[11:29] <klopsi-u3> yes
[11:30] <dane111>  ok. thanks for the link and help :)
[12:23] <natus> When I shutdown my computer and when I restart it, I have always crash messages. Not because there are bugs, because Xubuntu shutdowns to quickly and maybe it doesn't wait that the applications are closed. How can I resolve my problem?
[12:25] <natus> On Windows, we can modify the reg to change the shutdown session time. In Xubuntu, is like "Shutdown" and immediately it's done and it crashes softwares that give me messages after the restart.
[12:26] <klopsi-u3> not familiar with that issue
[12:26] <natus> I thought about doing a script that deletes the crash folder after the restart but I want to understand the problem here and find a better solution.
[12:28] <klopsi-u3> not finding anything in google
[12:28] <Bwithmore19> hello guys how can i install xfce 4.12 on xubuntu 14.04 lts
[12:28] <natus> klopsi-u3: I searched already, I sended the same message on the ubuntu irc to see if there is a solution.
[12:29] <ochosi> just give it some time
[12:29] <ochosi> 4.12 was only released a few hours ago
[12:29] <ochosi> after almost three years, i guess you can wait a few more hours/days ;)
[12:30] <Bwithmore19> it will go to xubuntu main repo or not ?
[12:30] <Bwithmore19> or i will just use ppa ?
[12:34] <natus> Bwithmore19: you can use ppa look here https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12
[12:34] <ochosi> Bwithmore19: this answers your question: https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[12:35] <natus> but it is not the stable version xubuntu devs said
[12:35] <elfy> natus: ochosi IS one of them :)
[12:35] <natus> elfy: haha :D
[12:36] <elfy> Bwithmore19: give people a chance to get anything that will turn up in 14.04 there
[12:37] <elfy> and if things need testing with 14.04 - wait a while longer as it is a long haul actually getting anyone to do so
[12:37] <Bwithmore19> ok man i will
[12:37] <Bwithmore19> wait and see if will go to xubuntu 14.04 main repository
[12:41] <jatt> is there a official ppa to upgrade to the latest xfce 4.12?
[12:42] <elfy> https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[13:47] <elfy> DalePayman: https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[13:47] <DalePayman> Hey All! What's the best way to upgrade to Xfce 4.12 on my Xubuntu 14.04? Thx in advance!
[13:47] <elfy> ^^
[13:50] <DalePayman> so i have to wait :-|
[13:57] <elfy> yep - and it appears patience is foreign
[16:26] <Alftand> hiya
[16:26] <Alftand> anyone need a hand?
[16:26] <Alftand> welcome
[16:27] <Alftand> welcome
[16:28] <Alftand> anyone here?
[16:28] <klopsi-u3> hi Alftand
[16:28] <pleia2> Alftand: hi there, folks will ask questions when they need help, and you're encouraged to do the same :)
[16:29] <Alftand> ok
[16:29] <pleia2> (we try to keep the non-support chatter here to a minimum, so our helpers only look here when someone asks a question)
[16:33] <klopsi-u3> Alftand: join #xubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[16:58] <xubuntu288> I already installed xubuntu, but UEFI woes made me rethink going dual boot. What is the best way to wipe windows and install xubuntu as my sole operating system?
[16:59] <Alftand> i have an idea
[16:59] <Alftand> once i installed xubuntu on a UEFI computer
[16:59] <Alftand> what i did was that i went into bios settings and set it to CSM boot
[16:59] <Alftand> like compatibility mode
[16:59] <Alftand> then i installed it
[17:00] <Alftand> although windows wont boot when u set it to CSM
[17:00] <Alftand> keep it on UEFI
[17:00] <Alftand> when u imaged the xfce install disc
[17:00] <xubuntu288> Gotcha. It does not offer "Wipe Windows" as it did the first round. The previous install involved manual partitioning. It seems grubx64 did not find a place in the ESP partition
[17:00] <Alftand> set the PC to CSM then boot the install disc
[17:01] <Alftand> all i say is change it from UEFI to CSM
[17:01] <Alftand> it will work like a dream and install normally
[17:02] <xubuntu288> Esentially, I can see the xxx.efi's in the firmware control. Yeah, completely avoiding EFI would be nice, especially since am at the point where I could care less about Windows.
[17:03] <xubuntu288> Oh, to complete the first sentence... but they dont show up as an option upon boot... Yup, CSM it is.
[17:04] <xubuntu288> Thanks
[17:05] <Alftand> (wow, im only 13 and im already helping other linux users)
[17:25] <Azelphur> Alftand: age doesn't dictate what you can and cannot do, when I was 13 I was already well into programming and was building my own computers, etc. Another guy I know is 14 and manages a lot of Mozillas UK online presence
[17:45] <drc> Installed 15.04B1...where are we talking about it (not necessarily bug/reports, but) questions to see if it is a local/regional/global problem, observations and things like that?  Here, -devel, +1 ?
[17:45] <holstein> !15.05
[17:45] <holstein> !15.04
[17:45] <drc> thanks
[17:45] <holstein> though, likely also relevant in the #xubuntu-devel channel for xubuntu specific discussion, drc
[17:45] <drc> what if it is a purely XFCE/Xbuntu problem, such a panel oddities?
[17:46] <drc> Read my mind :)
[17:46] <holstein> drc: as far as "observations", that might be more like a wishlist bug.. im not sure where the "complaints department" is, these days ;)
[17:46] <drc> bitbucket? :)
[17:46] <holstein> you can always go upstream to the xfce project its self
[17:47] <drc> thanks
[18:44] <CrossPope16> hello
[18:45] <klopsi-u3> hi CrossPope16
[18:45] <CrossPope16> is Thunderbird always this buggy or is it like that only on xubuntu?
[18:46] <elfy> well - works fine for me and I'm using Xubuntu
[18:46] <CrossPope16> yeah well, I guess it's okay
[18:46] <CrossPope16> but you see, I have like 8000 emails on my yahoo acount
[18:47] <elfy> why not just say what the problem is :)
[18:47] <CrossPope16> I ticked the option to "Synchronize the most recent 30 days" emails
[18:47] <CrossPope16> it still downloads all 8000 of them :/
[18:48] <CrossPope16> oh bloody hell now it's downloading 13 thousand message headers
[18:48] <elfy> mmm no idea about that I'm afraid, but if no-one else can help in here, try  #ubuntu as tbird is the same regardless
[18:51] <CrossPope16> tho I like Xubuntu so far
[18:51] <CrossPope16> but I think there's a bug for the desktop can you guys test it?
[18:52] <elfy> CrossPope16: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2674517
[18:55] <CrossPope16> thanks elfy, I think I found the fix!
[18:58] <CrossPope16> do you know whether I will still receive email if I close Thunderbird?
[18:59] <kashel> plymouth help
[18:59] <bazhang> !info plymouth
[18:59] <kashel> i can help with Plymouth on Xubuntu 14.04.1
[19:00] <kashel> ply-boot-client.c]                       ply_boot_client_connect:could not connect to /org/freedesktop/plymouthd: Connection refused
 [./ply-boot-client.c]                       ply_boot_client_connect:trying old fallback path /ply-boot-protocol
 [./ply-boot-client.c]                       ply_boot_client_connect:could not connect to /ply-boot-protocol: Connection refused
 [./plymouth.c]                                          main:daemon not running
[19:00] <kashel> plymouth --debug
[19:10] <user__> hello,my host is ubuntu but my problem is with macchanger-gtk ,any suggestion on appropriate room to ask about it? once i get the mac changed in macchanger-gtk i can (wlan0) i get disconnected and my network is not showing,thank you
[19:11] <cfhowlett> user__, ask in main #ubuntu ... or ##linux or #networking
[19:11] <user__> question got cut off,meant to say i am having problem with macchanger-gtk and not sure which room to use if someone can suggest or help me solve it here
[19:11] <user__> thank you cf
[19:11] <cfhowlett> user__, happy2help!
[20:51] <bcowan> latest beta looks nice....dri is b0rked and grub is hosed on install but everything works after that
[21:01] <supsup> hi i just installed ubuntu, in sound settings it lists my sound card and it acts like it is playing music, but no sound is coming out
[21:11] <klopsi-u3> supsup what are you using to play sounds?
[21:12] <klopsi-u3> ?what do you mean it is acting like it is playing music?
[21:23] <supsup> klopsi-u3 i figured it out thanks! i use using digital profile vs analog
[21:24] <klopsi-u3> ah good deal
[22:05] <spk_> *testtest*
[22:05] <klopsi-u3> test successful
[22:06] <spk_> Woo!
[22:07] <spk_> I have just installed Xubuntu in an old comp I built and have strange video issues that I haven't seen described anywhere else
[22:07] <klopsi-u3> maybe you have bad video ram
[22:08] <spk_> screenshot: http://postimg.org/image/qxy6778e1/
[22:08] <klopsi-u3> cool, 60s
[22:08] <spk_> right?
[22:08] <spk_> but very hard to read
[22:09] <spk_> has anyone seen something similar?
[22:14] <bcowan> where can i set to not show mounts on the desktop
[22:14] <bcowan> err where in settings
[22:15] <drc> Desktop...Appearence...Default Icons.
[22:15] <drc> Unclick what you don't want.
[22:17] <bcowan> hmm did that and home and trash disapeared too
[22:17] <bcowan> oh well
[22:17] <majorgrub> Hi all
[22:18] <bcowan> thanks
[22:18] <majorgrub> I kind of have an issue with the sleep mode configuration...
[22:18] <drc> bcowan: The re-click the Home and Trash and NOT the removable Devices.
[22:18] <majorgrub> I configured my xubuntu so that it never goes to sleep nor turn off the screen but it doesn't seem to be working
[22:19] <majorgrub> When I'm watching a movie, it goes to sleep after like 15minutes
[22:19] <bcowan> drc, thanks
[22:20] <majorgrub> Maybe it's because I didn't turn off "light locker"
[22:20] <majorgrub> hmm...
[22:20] <majorgrub> I just did, will see if it changes something
[23:11] <supsup> hey guys I just installed this today, quick question:  How do I make my monitor changes done in ARandR persist per session?
[23:11] <supsup> when i log out they revert back
[23:13] <crond> Question: Can I cp -a /usr, /home, and /opt to new partitions on a drive, edit /etc/fstab with the UUID's for those partitions and the mountpoints, and then reboot to effectively migrate without reinstalling?
[23:15] <pleia2> crond: and /boot and /etc and /lib and /var... you'd need to copy almost everything and install grub
[23:17] <crond> pleia2, no, I only want to move those directories actually
[23:18] <crond> I have 16gb SSD, and I've added a 1TB HDD, so I just want to move the big stuff
[23:18] <crond> pleia2, so is that the right way to do it?
[23:18] <pleia2> crond: oh, I see, you aren't reinstalling the whole disk
[23:18] <pleia2> crond: yeah, that should work ok
[23:19] <supsup_> i logged out so unsure if anyone said something about how to make ARandR settings not reset per session
[23:19] <pleia2> you don't really need to reboot though, just mount the new ones over the old
[23:19] <pleia2> I suppose you might want to reboot to test that fstab is working properly, but there's no actual need to do so
[23:20] <crond> pleia2, okay, awesome, thanks
[23:20] <supsup_> pleia2 do you use two screens?
[23:20] <pleia2> supsup_: nope, sorry
[23:33] <Marzatha> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/01/0558259/xfce-412-released