[02:01] Hey guys I am back, This hasn't bothered me but I am in search of a solution. Yesterday I tried sudo reboot, and sudo shutdown -r, and both just boot my pc with flashing _ and the only solution I have to turn off the pc complete and turn it back on, is there a command that does same thing? [02:03] flashing? [02:05] yeah when it boots back up there is black background with flashing cursor "_" in the quotes. [02:05] I could be wrong I will try again. [06:30] win 3 [11:16] anyone able to help me install xubuntu and answer a few questions please? [11:17] i am here to help but dont know much [11:17] more then me hopefully [11:18] i've got an empty drive that i want to install on, if I just choose that drive to install to, will whatever partitions I need be created automatically or do I need to do it myself? [11:19] google says "you can make a new partition" [11:19] do you want to dual boot windows and xubuntu? [11:20] ok, and do you know if more is involved if im installing on a uefi system instead of bios? [11:21] well i've windows installed already, but i'm on going through bios setup and then change boot order when I want to use xubuntu, as i won't be using it that often [11:21] but im planning on* [11:21] ah so xubuntu gets its own drive? [11:22] yes, but i'd also like to make partitions on that drive, to store system independent files. ie music videos etc. [11:22] so i could access a music library etc no matter what os Im in. [11:23] yes good plan, unfortunately i have no efi experience (running with compatibility module here) [11:23] ok, [11:23] think i'll just dive in and give it a shot ;) [11:24] disconnect windows drives, so worst case I just wipe the linux hard drive and start again. and again.. ad nauseum [11:25] but yeah I wasn't sure if xubuntu makes its own partitions for boot, /, swap etc or whether ill have to do it manually? but i guess ill find out. [11:26] i would select in the installer to manually partition the disk so you can set up your data drive [11:26] possibly also make two identical partitions for xubuntu [11:26] so you can use dd to make a backup [11:26] dd? [11:27] dd lets you make a byte-for-byte copy of one partition to another [11:27] or one partition to a file [11:27] ok. [11:27] is dd a linux command or how do I use that. or what is that? [11:27] it is a linux shell command [11:28] ok, so three partitions, two for linux, and one for data, and then i can 'dd' from one partition to the other. is that right? [11:28] yeah i like to do it that way [11:29] http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/drive-and-partition-backups-with-dd/ [11:29] instead of re-installing, bit quicker? [11:29] well it lets me experiment more with less worry about breaking things [11:29] yes [11:30] ok. thanks for the link and help :) [12:23] When I shutdown my computer and when I restart it, I have always crash messages. Not because there are bugs, because Xubuntu shutdowns to quickly and maybe it doesn't wait that the applications are closed. How can I resolve my problem? [12:25] On Windows, we can modify the reg to change the shutdown session time. In Xubuntu, is like "Shutdown" and immediately it's done and it crashes softwares that give me messages after the restart. [12:26] not familiar with that issue [12:26] I thought about doing a script that deletes the crash folder after the restart but I want to understand the problem here and find a better solution. [12:28] not finding anything in google [12:28] hello guys how can i install xfce 4.12 on xubuntu 14.04 lts [12:28] klopsi-u3: I searched already, I sended the same message on the ubuntu irc to see if there is a solution. [12:29] just give it some time [12:29] 4.12 was only released a few hours ago [12:29] after almost three years, i guess you can wait a few more hours/days ;) [12:30] it will go to xubuntu main repo or not ? [12:30] or i will just use ppa ? [12:34] Bwithmore19: you can use ppa look here https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12 [12:34] Bwithmore19: this answers your question: https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152 [12:35] but it is not the stable version xubuntu devs said [12:35] natus: ochosi IS one of them :) [12:35] elfy: haha :D [12:36] Bwithmore19: give people a chance to get anything that will turn up in 14.04 there [12:37] and if things need testing with 14.04 - wait a while longer as it is a long haul actually getting anyone to do so [12:37] ok man i will [12:37] wait and see if will go to xubuntu 14.04 main repository [12:41] is there a official ppa to upgrade to the latest xfce 4.12? [12:42] https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152 [13:47] DalePayman: https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152 [13:47] Hey All! What's the best way to upgrade to Xfce 4.12 on my Xubuntu 14.04? Thx in advance! [13:47] ^^ [13:50] so i have to wait :-| [13:57] yep - and it appears patience is foreign [16:26] hiya [16:26] anyone need a hand? [16:26] welcome [16:27] welcome [16:28] anyone here? [16:28] hi Alftand [16:28] Alftand: hi there, folks will ask questions when they need help, and you're encouraged to do the same :) [16:29] ok [16:29] (we try to keep the non-support chatter here to a minimum, so our helpers only look here when someone asks a question) [16:33] Alftand: join #xubuntu-offtopic for random chat [16:58] I already installed xubuntu, but UEFI woes made me rethink going dual boot. What is the best way to wipe windows and install xubuntu as my sole operating system? [16:59] i have an idea [16:59] once i installed xubuntu on a UEFI computer [16:59] what i did was that i went into bios settings and set it to CSM boot [16:59] like compatibility mode [16:59] then i installed it [17:00] although windows wont boot when u set it to CSM [17:00] keep it on UEFI [17:00] when u imaged the xfce install disc [17:00] Gotcha. It does not offer "Wipe Windows" as it did the first round. The previous install involved manual partitioning. It seems grubx64 did not find a place in the ESP partition [17:00] set the PC to CSM then boot the install disc [17:01] all i say is change it from UEFI to CSM [17:01] it will work like a dream and install normally [17:02] Esentially, I can see the xxx.efi's in the firmware control. Yeah, completely avoiding EFI would be nice, especially since am at the point where I could care less about Windows. [17:03] Oh, to complete the first sentence... but they dont show up as an option upon boot... Yup, CSM it is. [17:04] Thanks [17:05] (wow, im only 13 and im already helping other linux users) [17:25] Alftand: age doesn't dictate what you can and cannot do, when I was 13 I was already well into programming and was building my own computers, etc. Another guy I know is 14 and manages a lot of Mozillas UK online presence [17:45] Installed 15.04B1...where are we talking about it (not necessarily bug/reports, but) questions to see if it is a local/regional/global problem, observations and things like that? Here, -devel, +1 ? [17:45] !15.05 [17:45] !15.04 [17:45] Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) will be the 22nd release of Ubuntu due for release in April 2015. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. For more info see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1425 [17:45] thanks [17:45] though, likely also relevant in the #xubuntu-devel channel for xubuntu specific discussion, drc [17:45] what if it is a purely XFCE/Xbuntu problem, such a panel oddities? [17:46] Read my mind :) [17:46] drc: as far as "observations", that might be more like a wishlist bug.. im not sure where the "complaints department" is, these days ;) [17:46] bitbucket? :) [17:46] you can always go upstream to the xfce project its self [17:47] thanks === newwallpaper_ is now known as brainvvash === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [18:44] hello [18:45] hi CrossPope16 [18:45] is Thunderbird always this buggy or is it like that only on xubuntu? [18:46] well - works fine for me and I'm using Xubuntu [18:46] yeah well, I guess it's okay [18:46] but you see, I have like 8000 emails on my yahoo acount [18:47] why not just say what the problem is :) [18:47] I ticked the option to "Synchronize the most recent 30 days" emails [18:47] it still downloads all 8000 of them :/ [18:48] oh bloody hell now it's downloading 13 thousand message headers [18:48] mmm no idea about that I'm afraid, but if no-one else can help in here, try #ubuntu as tbird is the same regardless [18:51] tho I like Xubuntu so far [18:51] but I think there's a bug for the desktop can you guys test it? [18:52] CrossPope16: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2674517 [18:55] thanks elfy, I think I found the fix! [18:58] do you know whether I will still receive email if I close Thunderbird? [18:59] plymouth help [18:59] !info plymouth [18:59] i can help with Plymouth on Xubuntu 14.04.1 [18:59] plymouth (source: plymouth): graphical boot animation and logger - main package. In component main, is required. Version 0.9.0-0ubuntu7 (utopic), package size 108 kB, installed size 537 kB [19:00] ply-boot-client.c] ply_boot_client_connect:could not connect to /org/freedesktop/plymouthd: Connection refused [19:00] [./ply-boot-client.c] ply_boot_client_connect:trying old fallback path /ply-boot-protocol [19:00] [./ply-boot-client.c] ply_boot_client_connect:could not connect to /ply-boot-protocol: Connection refused [19:00] [./plymouth.c] main:daemon not running [19:00] plymouth --debug [19:10] hello,my host is ubuntu but my problem is with macchanger-gtk ,any suggestion on appropriate room to ask about it? once i get the mac changed in macchanger-gtk i can (wlan0) i get disconnected and my network is not showing,thank you [19:11] user__, ask in main #ubuntu ... or ##linux or #networking [19:11] question got cut off,meant to say i am having problem with macchanger-gtk and not sure which room to use if someone can suggest or help me solve it here [19:11] thank you cf [19:11] user__, happy2help! [20:51] latest beta looks nice....dri is b0rked and grub is hosed on install but everything works after that === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [21:01] hi i just installed ubuntu, in sound settings it lists my sound card and it acts like it is playing music, but no sound is coming out [21:11] supsup what are you using to play sounds? [21:12] ?what do you mean it is acting like it is playing music? [21:23] klopsi-u3 i figured it out thanks! i use using digital profile vs analog [21:24] ah good deal [22:05] *testtest* [22:05] test successful [22:06] Woo! [22:07] I have just installed Xubuntu in an old comp I built and have strange video issues that I haven't seen described anywhere else [22:07] maybe you have bad video ram [22:08] screenshot: http://postimg.org/image/qxy6778e1/ [22:08] cool, 60s [22:08] right? [22:08] but very hard to read [22:09] has anyone seen something similar? [22:14] where can i set to not show mounts on the desktop [22:14] err where in settings [22:15] Desktop...Appearence...Default Icons. [22:15] Unclick what you don't want. [22:17] hmm did that and home and trash disapeared too [22:17] oh well [22:17] Hi all [22:18] thanks [22:18] I kind of have an issue with the sleep mode configuration... [22:18] bcowan: The re-click the Home and Trash and NOT the removable Devices. [22:18] I configured my xubuntu so that it never goes to sleep nor turn off the screen but it doesn't seem to be working [22:19] When I'm watching a movie, it goes to sleep after like 15minutes [22:19] drc, thanks [22:20] Maybe it's because I didn't turn off "light locker" [22:20] hmm... [22:20] I just did, will see if it changes something === crondd is now known as crond [23:11] hey guys I just installed this today, quick question: How do I make my monitor changes done in ARandR persist per session? [23:11] when i log out they revert back [23:13] Question: Can I cp -a /usr, /home, and /opt to new partitions on a drive, edit /etc/fstab with the UUID's for those partitions and the mountpoints, and then reboot to effectively migrate without reinstalling? [23:15] crond: and /boot and /etc and /lib and /var... you'd need to copy almost everything and install grub [23:17] pleia2, no, I only want to move those directories actually [23:18] I have 16gb SSD, and I've added a 1TB HDD, so I just want to move the big stuff [23:18] pleia2, so is that the right way to do it? [23:18] crond: oh, I see, you aren't reinstalling the whole disk [23:18] crond: yeah, that should work ok [23:19] i logged out so unsure if anyone said something about how to make ARandR settings not reset per session [23:19] you don't really need to reboot though, just mount the new ones over the old [23:19] I suppose you might want to reboot to test that fstab is working properly, but there's no actual need to do so [23:20] pleia2, okay, awesome, thanks [23:20] pleia2 do you use two screens? [23:20] supsup_: nope, sorry [23:33] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/01/0558259/xfce-412-released