[07:41] <knightwise> morning peeps
[07:51] <mapp> morning knightwise
[08:06] <SuperMatt> morning all
[08:06] <mapps> morning SuperMatt
[08:13] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:15] <mapps> mornin MonsterKiller
[08:16] <mapps> MooDoo
[08:16] <mapps> sup mate
[08:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:17] <MooDoo> it's monday :(
[08:17] <mapps> im going to Ukraine in July lads
[08:17] <mapps> Malaga -> Moscow -> Kiev :D
[08:17] <MooDoo> nice :D
[08:17] <mapps> yea
[08:17] <MooDoo> holiday or work?
[08:17] <mapps> holiday
[08:18] <mapps> friend off betfair forum lives there
[08:18] <MooDoo> brill :)
[08:18] <mapps> hopefully meet up with him
[08:18] <mapps> says on wiki the average wage is $8k usd - so i plan to go to a club buy everyone a drink and girls shoould fall in love;p
[08:19] <MooDoo> pmsl good luck
[08:19] <mapps> im serious lol
[08:20] <mapps> if average wage is $8k
[08:20] <mapps> il go in a bar buy a shed load of drinks
[08:20] <mapps> girls be like 'woah hes mad rich'
[08:20] <mapps> marry a hot ukranian:P
[08:22] <MooDoo> or get mugged for being a cocky git
[08:22] <mapps> i should be ok i hope
[08:22] <mapps> ive managed in the uk:P
[08:23] <mapps> lived in Portsmouth for 4 years.lived in Elepehant and castle..lived in Brixton
[08:23] <mapps> as long as you're ok there's nevera problem
[08:24] <mapps> and it's not cocky MooDoo i just want a nice ukranian girl lol
[08:27] <SuperMatt> how's the new XFCE?
[09:14] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:15] <bashrc> morning
[09:15] <mapps> morning
[09:16] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:17] <mapps> 15c here
[09:17] <mapps> :D
[09:21] <knightwise> morning
[09:22] <Laney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJl5YuLWROc
[09:22] <Laney> MORNING
[09:22] <mapps> almost sleep time for me
[09:24] <bashrc> night shift?
[09:24] <mapps> as usual
[09:24] <mapps> but i was off last night
[09:25] <mapps> went into spain:)
[09:34] <Resupine> hello plz can you help me
[09:35] <popey> !ask
[09:35] <Resupine> is there anywhere i can paste it pls
[09:35] <popey> paste.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <Resupine> thanks
[09:37] <Resupine> is there anywhere i can paste the image please
[09:37] <Resupine> i forgot the site
[09:38] <popey> imgur.com
[09:38] <Resupine> thanks popey thats the one
[09:40] <Resupine> doesnt appear to be workin
[09:41] <foobarry> imgur.com is up
[09:41] <Resupine> it keeps failing
[09:42] <SuperMatt> sounds like you might have a networking problem
[09:42] <mapps> hm
[09:42] <Resupine> possibly
[09:42] <Resupine> i got the usual problem of not enough disk space
[09:43] <mapps> its only 16c :( i feel cold
[09:43] <Resupine> empty your trush and stuff
[09:43] <SuperMatt> not enough disk space for what?
[09:43] <Resupine> for the software updater
[09:44] <SuperMatt> then you need to delete files
[09:44] <SuperMatt> you may have some in your trash
[09:44] <Resupine> it actually worked this time
[09:45] <Resupine> http://imgur.com/n2aHPcI
[09:45] <Resupine> thanks
[09:45] <popey> Resupine: sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:45] <popey> should clean out some old kernels
[09:45] <Resupine> i think i tried but ill try it again
[09:46] <Resupine> thanks
[09:46] <foobarry> doesn't the unity-tweak package help clear out kernel pacakges in a noobish way?
[09:47] <Resupine> im not sure how to do it i think i tried
[09:47] <popey> foobarry: no
[09:48] <mapps> what can i do to avoid roaming charges? beyond dont do it- when i go from gib -> spain they charge me
[09:48] <popey> turn it off on your phone
[09:48] <mapps> nothing i can do i dont think
[09:48] <mapps> pah
[09:49] <mapps> it's the same place its so stupid
[09:49] <Resupine> i still get the same message
[09:49] <mapps> my phone connects to orange es some days
[09:49] <SuperMatt> what size is your /boot partition?
[09:49] <Resupine> how can i check thanks
[09:50] <SuperMatt> df -h /boot
[09:50] <Resupine> cheers
[09:50] <Resupine> its 236mb
[09:51] <Resupine> but ive used 210
[09:51] <SuperMatt> ah, a nice sticky little situation
[09:51] <SuperMatt> my question would be who set the size so small?
[09:52] <popey> the installer
[09:52] <Resupine> i dont know how it happened
[09:52] <popey> it defaults too small
[09:52] <Resupine> oh ok
[09:52] <SuperMatt> fun
[09:52] <popey> it was discussed at length recently on ubuntu-devel
[09:52] <Resupine> is there anyway to change that at all do you know
[09:52] <Resupine> oh
[09:52] <popey> you can, yes.
[09:53] <popey> you can resize it, or just keep on top of it.
[09:53] <Resupine> is it easy to do
[09:53] <popey> is brain surgery easy?
[09:53] <popey> for those that know how to do it :)
[09:53] <Resupine> sounds difficult the
[09:53] <Resupine> n
[09:53] <popey> its not that hard, but there are risks
[09:53] <Resupine> ha ha
[09:53] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/443673/gparted-resizing-boot-partition
[09:54] <Resupine> ill take a  look
[09:55] <Resupine> thanks for your help
[09:55] <popey> np
[09:57] <foobarry> my son's school has this thing called a focus week
[09:58] <foobarry> where they ask one child per week for a few things they would like the class to study that week e.g. dinosaurs, etc
[09:58] <foobarry> they asked my boy (who is 5). he said "i'd like to learn more about how to build stable buildings"
[10:12] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Dr. Seuss Day! :-D
[10:13] <foobarry> is it?
[10:13]  * zmoylan-pi breaks out the green eggs and ham.  and calls 999 in advance...
[10:13] <foobarry> remind me not to check reddit today
[10:14] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:15] <zmoylan-pi> czajkowski... you didn't watch the rugby... my twitter feed was strangely silent over the weekend :-)
[10:23] <czajkowski> zmoylan-pi: I was in the car coming up from Dorset and I was getting tweeted so I could follow it
[10:23] <czajkowski> :D
[10:23] <czajkowski> I LOVED THE GAME!
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> wasn't the same without a twitter feed going bonkers... :-)
[10:32] <czajkowski> lol
[10:34]  * MooDoo doesn't want to think about the rugby
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> ♪ a nation once again... ♫ :-)
[11:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: http://img.pandawhale.com/post-10623-Grumpy-Cat-in-a-Happy-Birthday-cehB.jpeg cat in a hat
[11:19] <JamesTait> davmor2, where did you find that photo of me?
[11:21] <davmor2> JamesTait: It was your birthday profile pic ;)
[14:17] <lopta> I'm wondering whether to try Ubuntu 14.10 or 14.04.2
[14:18] <foobarry> try = how long for?
[14:18] <lopta> Probably a month or so.
[14:19] <jpds> lopta: Try both?
[14:19] <lopta> jpds: Hmmm... that's a possibility I hadn't considered.
[14:20] <jpds> lopta: Spinning up a VM takes a few minutes.
[14:20] <lopta> I'll try 14.10 first.
[14:20] <lopta> jpds: True enough and that's what I do on my work laptop. I'll be running this test on bare metal though (an old desktop PC at the office)
[14:36] <popey> I'd go for 14.04.2
[14:39] <lopta> popey: I'll download that next then.
[14:39] <lopta> (once this torrent's in).
[14:41] <lopta> popey: Is that because it'll be around longer or because there's newer (less tested?) stuff in 14.10?
[14:41] <popey> longer support
[14:41] <lopta> popey: Thanks for the insight.
[14:44] <foobarry> hence my question about "a month or so"
[14:44] <lopta> Thinking about it, I should break out my laptop.
[14:45] <lopta> ...think I'll let it thaw out a bit before I power it up though.
[14:53] <popey> was it buried in snow?
[14:53] <jpds> Maybe took it skiing?
[14:55] <popey> one per foot?
[14:55] <daftykins> LTS is where it's at
[14:56] <daftykins> i have a £208 Lenovo 15" intel i3 laptop coming this week :O
[14:56] <popey> like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKP7jQknGjs
[14:56] <daftykins> super cheap deal! free printer too O_O
[14:56] <popey> (best video I have seen this week)
[14:59] <foobarry> i have a video of me doing the same thing
[14:59] <foobarry> on a snowboard
[14:59] <popey> 3min54 is good
[15:00] <popey> also 4min15
[15:05] <jpds> popey: 3:54> what the hell.
[15:05] <popey> yeah :)
[15:08] <daftykins> heh some neat bits in that
[15:09] <jpds> Ha, that poor person at 1:30.
[15:11] <lopta> popey: I left it in the car overnight.
[15:11] <lopta> It get's a bit chilly here.
[15:12] <lopta> s/overnight/over the weekend/
[15:12] <lopta> Let's plug the charger in, that'll warm it up a bit.
[15:14] <daftykins> O_O
[15:14]  * zmoylan-pi could always tell when a pc for repair coming in had been in a car over night this time of year.  metal to cold to touch for a few hours.
[15:14] <jpds> popey: 4:40 is just obscene.
[15:21] <foobarry> somebody put sl;eeping pills in my lunch
[15:21] <foobarry> either that or its cos i'm 40 yrs old now
[15:22] <lopta> foobarry: Welcome to your forties! ;-)
[15:22] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: that must add many hours to the job :/
[15:23] <moreati> bigcalm: you got name checked by the register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/02/ubuntu_15_04_flavours_vivid_vervet/
[15:25] <zmoylan-pi> and so cold the hard drives couldn't spin up in time.  would take a few attempts to warm them up
[15:28] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[15:28] <bigcalm> moreati: heh, nice. Sometimes tempted to change my surname
[15:37] <Myrtti> I've not yet had a day when I've not regretted doing it. The only bit I'm feeling bad about the wedding. I can only hope it gets easier once all the paperwork is finally done.
[15:38] <MooDoo> how do all
[15:38] <MooDoo> are we all changing names?
[15:39] <foobarry> irc or irl names
[15:39] <zmoylan-pi> can i still be me? :-)
[15:39] <laurac> aloha :)
[15:39] <MooDoo> lol just reading scroll back and not properly i might add lol
[15:39] <popey> zoiks
[15:39] <MooDoo> laurac: ??
[15:39] <zmoylan-pi> gee willikers
[15:39] <popey> s/laurac/lauraf/
[15:40] <MooDoo> lauraf?
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> now the usage of my z key bill drop to 0... :-)
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> *will
[15:40] <MooDoo> popey: ignore that, lol
[15:41] <MooDoo> laurac: congratulations by the way :D
[15:41] <Laney> C Z TAB noooooooooo
[15:43] <laurac> lol
[15:43] <laurac> nope not laura F yet
[15:44] <laurac> but will so be changing my name when we do the deed :)
[15:44] <MooDoo> won't be long :D
[15:44] <laurac> exept on irc and on twitter as well everyone can do tab complete :)
[15:44] <MooDoo> yay
[15:44] <MooDoo> just as i've learnt to say it you'll be changing your surname lol
[15:48] <daftykins> :o
[15:48] <daftykins> MooDoo: hahaha :D
[15:55] <MooDoo> :D
[15:55] <davmor2> laurac: prod
[16:00] <lopta> I might go across the road for a fancy coffee while this is installing.
[16:01]  * zmoylan-pi misread that and wondered what a fancy toffee was like...
[16:01] <zmoylan-pi> probably not a scots clan...
[16:02] <bigcalm> laurac: I think Jon should change his name
[16:02] <diddledan> ello
[16:03] <diddledan> I'm not gonna get used to laurac's new nick :-p
[16:16] <davmor2> laurac: prod
[16:17] <davmor2> at some point laurac will snap and then we'll know it's still her
[16:17] <laurac> bigcalm: eh why ?
[16:17] <laurac> I never get that when men change their names to the wifes but each to their own tbh :)
[16:17] <laurac> I do like tradition
[16:18] <directhex> well
[16:18] <directhex> legally
[16:18] <directhex> there's no paperwork for a wife to change her name, or keep her name. just do it. any other choices require deed poll
[16:18] <directhex> double-barrelling, or husband changing to wife's surname, deed poll
[16:18] <directhex> which is a PITA
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> i prefer mononyms.  there's only one me
[16:19] <directhex> everyone should use a GUID to identify themselves?
[16:19] <daftykins> :D
[16:19] <directhex> works until we colonize other planets & need to switch to UUID
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> can i use klingon characters in my guid? :-)
[16:19] <laurac> loth double barrelling!
[16:20] <daftykins> amusingly a mate just messaged to tell me my name was written wrong on the funeral attendance list for his dads funeral the other day
[16:20] <daftykins> i even spelt it for this church guy!
[16:21] <Myrtti> in Finland you need to fill a form to choose a last name when you're getting married. Both need to fill it, even if they keep their own names, which is the default.
[16:21] <bigcalm> laurac: only suggested it to be contrary
[16:22] <bigcalm> laurac: a cousin of mine and her fella both changed their surnames when they had a baby together.
[16:23] <bigcalm> But aren't married
[16:23] <foobarry> lol
[16:23] <daftykins> that's a cunning way to do it
[16:23] <foobarry> why not marry?
[16:23] <zmoylan-pi> didn't want to fill out the forms :-)
[16:25] <lopta> Ah poo. It was looking promising until the reboot but now I have a black screen.
[16:26] <daftykins> reboot after having done what? :)
[16:26] <lopta> daftykins: Installing 14.10
[16:26] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[16:26] <daftykins> try that
[16:26] <daftykins> unless you know the exact hardware of the machine
[16:28] <bigcalm> foobarry: they have their reasons. One might be that they've just had a baby and don't want the expense of a wedding
[16:28] <bigcalm> Who can say
[16:29] <lopta> Looks as though a cold reset helped.
[16:29] <Azelphur> kinda tempted to buy http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/mini-robotic-vacuum-cleaner-39-99-maplin-2155783 any thoughts?
[16:30] <daftykins> don't dog sit, i've seen a nasty picture of what happens when someone with a robovac looks after a dog
[16:31] <Azelphur> can't anyway, tenancy agreement doesn't allow it :P
[16:31] <daftykins> ;]
[16:32]  * lopta runs the Software Updater
[16:32] <lopta> That's a curious font. Not bad, just a bit strange.
[16:33] <daftykins> i prefer to just apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[16:33] <zmoylan-pi> my childhood cat used to assinate vacuum cleaners by pushing them down the stairs till they broke
[16:33] <daftykins> lmao
[16:33] <zmoylan-pi> she wasn't a fan of hoovers
[16:34] <lopta> We used to have a little spherical hoover that floated on a cussion of air.
[16:35] <lopta> I wonder whatever happened to those.
[16:35] <lopta> Does Ubuntu ship with bash?
[16:35] <daftykins> yes bash is the default
[16:36] <Azelphur> zmoylan-pi: I remember I fell down the stairs onto the family hoover when I was a kid :P
[16:36] <lopta> Has it been patched against "shell shock" (in case corporate IT ask me)?
[16:36] <Azelphur> managed to Karate chop a chunk of it off on the way down
[16:36] <zmoylan-pi> whatever happened to dysons wheelbarrows with a ball for a wheel?
[16:37] <daftykins> lopta: ages ago, yeah
[16:37] <lopta> zmoylan-pi: I had one of those when I was a toddler. Ballbarrow. Wasn't from Dyson though.
[16:37] <daftykins> but feel free to confirm
[16:37] <daftykins> :)
[16:37] <lopta> daftykins: Great, thanks.
[16:39] <lopta> Might try our computer-based training thing on this desktop once the updater's finished.
[16:39] <daftykins> some web based thing?
[16:41]  * lopta nods
[16:42] <lopta> I'm tempted to max out the RAM on this but we really shouldn't spend money on it.
[16:43] <daftykins> is it old?
[16:43]  * lopta nods
[16:43] <lopta> Pentium 4 something-or-other.
[16:43] <lopta> 3 GHz
[16:46] <lopta> Xubuntu works on it ...as does MS Windows 10 Technical Preview.
[16:46] <daftykins> haha, i think people have very different definitions of 'works' :D i couldn't stand anything single core now
[16:47] <lopta> daftykins: I have a dual-core Atom box at home and Mrs. lopta has a quad-core Phenom II.
[16:48] <daftykins> :S
[16:48] <lopta> daftykins: I have a shelf full of single-core desktops at the office though and if we use them at all, it'll be mostly as RDP terminals.
[16:48] <daftykins> mmm makes sense
[16:48] <daftykins> the College i used to work at and teach at gets donated even quad core systems now
[16:49] <lopta> daftykins: We're not that fortunate. ;-)
[16:49] <daftykins> i need to get in touch actually, there was talk of hundreds of laptops being offered 0o
[16:49] <lopta> Time to try another reboot.
[16:50] <daftykins> \o/
[16:50] <lopta> I'd like to try one of those 8-core Atom chips but I don't have ready access to one and it's not a priority.
[16:51] <daftykins> i think of all atoms as being glorified calculators :)
[16:51] <diddledan> lol
[16:51] <diddledan> is this bad taste? http://newsthump.com/2015/02/28/william-shatner-steals-space-shuttle-to-search-for-reborn-leonard-nimoy/
[16:51] <lopta> daftykins: Aren't all computers glorified calculators? ;-)
[16:51] <daftykins> some have some actual beans :D
[16:53] <lopta> I think our application server must be a VM
[16:53] <lopta> Xeon X5550 but Task Manager only shows four cores.
[16:54] <diddledan> yeah I don't suppose anyone uses real iron these days
[16:54] <diddledan> except for hosting vms
[16:54] <daftykins> not if they're sensible + sufficiently funded :)
[16:54] <intrbiz> X5550 is a quad core chip is it not
[16:55] <lopta> Hmm... might be bare metal. Apparently the X5550 is quad-core.
[16:55] <lopta> Might be a single-socket server.
[16:55] <intrbiz> or old one CPU installed
[16:55] <daftykins> quad core with HT
[16:55] <daftykins> http://ark.intel.com/products/37106/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5550-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI
[16:55] <daftykins> so 8 logical
[16:55] <intrbiz> only* not old
[16:55] <lopta> daftykins: HT may be turned off.
[16:56] <daftykins> or VM as you said, whichever goes
[16:56] <lopta> It's slow enough at times to be a VM.
[16:56]  * lopta shrugs
[16:57] <czajkowski> folks may find this interesting http://www.couchbase.com/press-releases/unity-couchbase-mobile-improves-game-development-with-sync-and-offline-support
[17:00] <lopta> Well, it's able to play video.
[17:02] <diddledan> lol @ spam - "Brandie k. wants Daniel to EXPLORE her B***S"
[17:03] <daftykins> bills
[17:03] <diddledan> lol
[17:03] <diddledan> yeah, I'm a financial advisor in a different life
[17:03] <daftykins> *nod*
[17:03] <daftykins> the US version of you :)
[17:11] <diddledan> blinkbox have so far given me 3 half-price offers in the space of a month
[17:12] <lopta> I wonder whether I am the U.S. version of me.
[17:29] <lopta> Is it lunch time yet?
[17:30] <diddledan> 17:30. methinks you missed it
[17:36] <lopta> Only 11:36 here.
[17:36] <lopta> Almost lunch time.
[17:36] <diddledan> my spidey sense is tingling. I think we might have an interloper :-p
[17:37] <daftykins> :D
[17:40] <mapps> hi
[17:40] <daftykins> afty mapps
[17:46] <lopta> diddledan: Hopefully I'm allowed in. I'm a UK Citizen, if that counts.
[17:46] <diddledan> lopta, lol, sure you're allowed
[17:46] <daftykins> though offering us chocolate is always a good move
[17:47] <diddledan> daftykins, +1
[17:49] <lopta> Can't get real chocolate over here ;-)
[17:50] <daftykins> hmm, diddledan note to UK customs... must install chocolate vending machines on other side of border
[17:51] <diddledan> must be in amerrycar
[17:52] <diddledan> only amerrycar does evil chocolate
[17:52] <diddledan> the recipe of the damned hershey's method
[17:53] <diddledan> the rest of the world is sane
[17:53] <diddledan> especially belgium
[17:53] <diddledan> belgium is the most sane in terms of chocolate
[17:53] <diddledan> <3
[17:53] <daftykins> any fave type from them? i don't think i've had much
[17:54] <daftykins> i forget where Lindt is, swiss?
[17:54] <diddledan> yeah, switzerland is pretty good too
[17:54] <diddledan> I think you're right about lindt being swiss
[17:54] <diddledan> those chocolate balls are divine
[17:54] <daftykins> huzzah \o/
[17:55] <diddledan> I love sucking on a chocolate ball
[17:55] <diddledan> I usually just bite it tho
[17:55]  * daftykins wonders where diddledan is going with this
[17:55] <diddledan> I hadn't decided on a destination yet
[17:56] <diddledan> but. innuendo is always a good idea
[17:56] <lopta> Right, I've decided that it's lunch time.
[17:57] <diddledan> lopta, \o/
[17:57] <diddledan> nomnomnom
[17:57] <daftykins> i didn't want to stop eating today
[17:57] <lopta> I was able to use Ubuntu to complete one computer-based training course.
[17:57] <daftykins> i had a bowl of cereal and then a pasta snack from M&S for lunch
[17:58] <diddledan> daftykins, you have real M&S over there?!
[17:58] <daftykins> yip
[17:58] <lopta> That's done, so it's time to buy windscreen wipers, washer fluid, sarnies etc.
[17:58] <diddledan> wow, and there was me thinking you were in the stone-age
[17:58] <daftykins> in fact, i know of at least 3 shops in the island
[17:58] <davmor2> diddledan: bet he doesn't
[17:58] <lopta> Think I'll go to K-mart.
[17:58] <daftykins> the town one has a little food hall, the other two are full size supermarkets
[17:58] <daftykins> but their food is too fancy to be of the likes i'd buy ;)
[17:58] <daftykins> (mostly)
[17:58] <lopta> K-mart, at least it's not Wal*Mart[tm]
[17:58] <diddledan> lopta, nah, go to the quickie mart
[17:58] <daftykins> the lunch stuff though, ooooh yes
[17:59] <lopta> brb
[17:59] <diddledan> aye, m&s snacks are wow
[19:13] <diddledan> so gog.com just emailed me about a massive sale they're having on digital downloads of games "until stock runs out"
[19:15] <daftykins> lmao
[19:15] <daftykins> diddledan: all bits must GO!
[19:19] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they're selling bitcoins, the game known as 'steal the parcel'? :-P
[19:53] <ali1234> gog doesn't accept bitcoins
[21:16] <mapps> SO SO quiet and is only 10;22
[21:16] <mapps> everyone must just sit in and watch tv here
[21:18] <daftykins> =]
[21:18] <shauno> busted
[21:19] <shauno> just about to try this 'last man on earth'.  it sounds like it should be about as stupid as I feel
[21:21] <daftykins> a film?
[21:22] <mapps> ;]
[21:23] <shauno> new series
[21:23] <shauno> last man on earth finds the last woman on earth.  and discover they don't quite get along.
[21:23] <daftykins> i'm still amazed they're letting Halle Berry do a second Extant season
[21:24] <mapps> im watching that night ast the museum new one
[21:24] <mapps> prob gonna suck
[21:24] <mapps> jmm dont recal extant i gather first season was garbage daftykins?
[21:25] <daftykins> pretty damn terrible yep
[21:25] <daftykins> but then anything with a baby in tends to get ruined ;)