[05:06] morning all [05:50] good mornings [05:50] lo pro [06:00] hi barrydk [06:01] More Kilos en almal [06:07] Morning [06:08] hi Padroni [06:09] hi [06:09] how are you? [06:09] alive and you? [06:09] hehe [06:09] same [06:09] ever seen this error: ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxx does not exist. Dropping to a shell initramfs: [06:09] ? [06:10] its seems to have lost the drives id [06:10] boot-repair will fix it [06:11] I fixed it myself [06:11] well done, what did you do? [06:11] rebuild grub after booting up from live disk and mounting the drive [06:11] and the /sys /proc folders [06:11] this happened after a small update ran [06:11] and I rebooted [06:11] maybe you can then explain how it loses it [06:11] came back : pc is dead [06:12] not a clue [06:12] ai! [06:12] but it seems it uses a device id to boot the disk [06:12] update to what? [06:12] instead of the boot location like /dev/sda1 [06:12] not sure [06:12] wasn't even a big thing [06:12] <2mb update killed my Ubuntu [06:13] wow [06:13] old drive? [06:14] mb or mB [06:14] 2mb is about nothing [06:14] i know [06:14] was a real small update [06:14] then killed my damn machine [06:14] wow [06:14] The nice thing about Linux is: you can fix it yourself. [06:15] lol [06:15] The bad thing about Linux is: you have to fix it yourself. [06:15] i use boot-repair [06:15] yeah that would have been my last resort [06:15] had to try and do it myself first though [06:15] good thats how you learn [06:16] and refresh memory [06:16] yup [06:16] keeps you on your toes [06:16] i only had those probs on old drives [06:16] dicey drives [06:17] yeah this is a old 160GB drive [06:17] may need to replace it [06:17] any way to clone my current install to a new drive? [06:17] ya them dd commands do it [06:18] thats what Squirm uses [06:18] I will speak to Squirm next time he is here [06:18] i only use dd to zero drives that are badly corrupt [06:19] Maaz google cloning a drive with dd command [06:19] Kilos: "Disk cloning - ArchWiki - Arch Linux" https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_cloning :: "Using DD for disk cloning - Server Fault" http://serverfault.com/questions/4906/using-dd-for-disk-cloning :: "Full DD copy from hdd to hdd - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange" http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/144172/full-dd-copy-from-hdd-to-hdd :: "2 Methods To [06:19] Clone Your Linux Hard Drive - MakeUseOf" http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/2-methods-to-clone-your… [06:19] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:21] Thanx Kilos [06:21] yw [06:34] mornings [06:34] Morning everyone [06:35] hi mazal [06:44] hi mazal [07:01] Kilos: did you see my site? [07:01] yessir [07:02] did you use the git stuffs? [07:02] I know the fly won't like this but it's so simple with github [07:02] share? [07:02] lol [07:02] Padroni: http://inetpro.github.io/ [07:03] just a proof of concept at the moment [07:03] isnt the lp way the more secure even though its more work for dom mense [07:03] hmm [07:03] are you a webdev, inetpro? [07:03] i want the site to stand forever [07:04] Kilos: the fly will help you with it man [07:04] Padroni: https://pages.github.com/ [07:05] i know [07:05] Padroni: I was just playing around with nikola a bit last night and just wanted to complete the cycle by deploying the site somewhere [07:05] ah ok [07:05] I have written so many site frameworks the last 5 years [07:06] I should go see where I have lost/stored them [07:06] should be on one of my computers somewhere [07:06] I write websites from the ground up, starting with the CSS [07:06] o/ oh hi [07:07] I finish about 70% of the CSS before writing a single line of HTML [07:07] then it all just clicks in place [07:07] hi nuvolari [07:07] lo nuvolari [07:08] Kilos: build your site with nikola from scratch, forget about cloning ubuntu-za [07:08] it's so simple, really! [07:08] haha inetpro he just has to find time to fix what we broke first [07:08] oh [07:09] all the wui stuff too [07:09] also it has to be related because we are driving the initiative [07:12] isnt that page we see what the fly built already with nikola inetpro ? [07:13] the one with the broken wui now [07:14] Kilos: it's as simple as http://getnikola.com/creating-a-site-not-a-blog-with-nikola.html [07:14] * Kilos looking [07:26] hmm... [07:29] ai! more to get mixed up with [07:29] a slug is/was a bullet [07:37] 27k bounce mails in the queue [07:37] you just KNOW someone will bleed for this... [07:38] sjoe [07:43] that's a lot [07:43] but certainly not the most I have seen [07:43] it can be 10x that much [07:44] a decent spam script can knock out thousands of mails / hour [07:44] if left unchecked... [07:52] sjoe [08:04] inetpro question did you do that in your Projects folder or another place [08:05] Kilos: does it matter? [08:05] i dunno? [08:05] RTFS' [08:05] ai! [08:05] go work man [08:06] :-) [08:06] i go start cooking [08:06] ai! [08:06] lol [08:07] Kilos: the command 'nikola init mysite' will create a new folder 'mysite' wherever you are at that point when executing it [08:08] oh [08:08] no need for the venv stuff? [08:08] ai! [08:08] obviously you need to do the pyenv stuffs to get nikola runningt in the first place [08:09] aha [08:09] it sounds like "obviously" was not the right word :-p [08:10] ya its like saying get in the car and go to shop, but not saying take car keys with first [08:11] :-p [08:16] so stubborn our pro [08:18] obviously you must fetch the keys in the kitchen first [08:18] grrr [08:57] morning === danfowle1 is now known as danfowler_ahoy [09:03] hi Squirm [09:03] hi TinuvaMac [09:05] hi Squirm [09:05] hi TinuvaMac [09:20] Morning all [09:22] * Jacques_Stry bathes in the silence [09:22] hi Jacques_Stry [09:22] hi Jacques_Stry [09:22] hehe [09:22] :) [09:22] We will be launching that site this week. [09:22] You need to give me links to any tech-ish WP themes you can find [09:23] (yes, you get to have a say in how the site looks.) [09:23] Ok - I'll better work hard on that article then [09:23] haha i'll check a few themes out [09:32] deegee wb [09:32] davey on holiday [09:59] Hello All! [10:01] Hi [10:02] Is the use of Bazaar explorer recommended? [10:07] Haven't tried it [10:10] It seems very user-friendly. [10:10] hi mopkop [10:10] It does [10:10] Hi Kilos! [10:31] are we UTC +2 [10:32] that is is gmt and utc the same thing? [10:32] dont all answer at once [10:35] hi magellanic [10:35] heya [10:36] well gmt is a timezone - time physically used by countries. UTC is not - it's a standard used as a common time for countries to compare time [10:36] Well technically, no, but for all practical reasons, yes! [10:36] But practically for us it's the same thing === deegee is now known as drussell [10:36] ha! [10:36] ok so we are utc+2 [10:37] yea [10:37] hehe drussell wb [10:37] someone stole my nick, forgotten how tedious it was to eject interlopers [10:37] ty [10:37] lol [10:37] thanks Kilos, you have a good weekend? [10:37] yes ty and you drussell ? [10:39] Kilos: yes thanks! :o) [10:40] Hello barrydk! [10:47] Should I put my emailadres on ubuntu wiki? I see superfly put a (a) instead of @, is this to prevent crawler bots collecting the address for spamlists? [10:48] ya like that [10:48] and (dot) [10:51] I really don't mind. I know I had the same problem with it on a website I built. There is some JavaScript app to stop the bots. But I eventually found gmail's spamfilter to be more than enough to stop all the spam from comming in. [11:01] hi Jacques_Clone [11:01] hehe [11:10] I need help from the guys that know their stuff [11:10] How do I check if my install is leaking memory ? And if yes what is causing it to leak ? [11:24] elaborate? [11:25] "install"? [11:26] applications can leak memory [11:26] not really sure what you mean [11:29] I want to know , if any apps are leaking memory , how do I find it [11:29] is there some way to check if it's occuring [11:32] http://askubuntu.com/questions/152716/how-to-detect-a-memory-leak [11:40] i need to do that [11:40] on me [11:40] lol [11:41] I think there is a new app for that :) [11:41] ive tried earplugs and nose plugs and keeping mouth shut but no good [11:41] You must close your eyes too! [11:43] * Jacques_Stry Buddah - See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil [11:43] lol [11:43] and do no evil [11:44] * Jacques_Stry imagining Kilos as buddah statue [11:44] haha [11:54] inetpro amper http://picpaste.com/nikola_site-wyxEAuGj.png [11:59] now i need to sleep [12:09] Kilos: wat maak jy? I've already got a basic Ubuntu-Africa site set up, and if you committed a whole lot of nonsense, I can get rid of it. [12:10] im playing superfly its nowhere near your site or our bzr stuff [12:10] not even in projects [12:11] nor at launchpad [12:14] Is there any CMS packages that produces static pages (like Nikola), but with back-end web-login? [12:15] the pro said i must leave all commiting to you superfly so im playing because the pro doesnt like me resting [12:15] lol he is too impatient [12:15] * Kilos hides [12:34] Should I just leave Future goals and Contributions open for now? [12:37] ya [12:37] as you do more things then you can go add them [12:39] Jacques_Stry: you still here? [12:42] i should have made it like this superfly http://picpaste.com/nikola_site1-JqENi2lU.png [12:43] sorry for upsetting you first [12:55] Is Maaz's translation program broken? [12:55] Maaz translate Lekker [12:55] mopkop: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html. === Padroni is now known as Padroni-brb === Padroni-brb is now known as Padroni [13:17] mopkop: fix it [13:17] Is the sourcecode on launchpad? [13:18] In all probability, I'll just end up breaking it more :( [13:18] https://launchpad.net/ibid [13:19] I assume, it's Google that changed their API handles, that caused the program to break. [13:20] yep [13:29] Uhm.... "Google Translate API is available as a paid service." That's a problem... [13:31] Now Microsoft has a free one. Oh the irony! [14:31] My head hurts :/ [14:31] why> [14:33] its thinking [14:33] im sure thinking is bad for the brain [14:33] I set up a new blog today [14:34] about ubuntustuff [14:34] *ubuntu stuff [14:34] im gonna hit you [14:34] me? [14:34] why do we have to ask for the link [14:34] oh [14:34] coz it is not ready for public viewing yet [14:34] lol [14:35] ah [14:35] still waiting for my other contributor to post his articles [14:35] I added 4 so long [14:59] hi nlsthzn [14:59] hey uncle Kilos ... didn't get to the "reporting" today... perhaps later tonight if baby allows or then tomorrow I guess :/ [14:59] whats happening [14:59] hehe [14:59] ty nlsthzn [14:59] babies chew time [14:59] yup and not much sleep >.< [15:00] and was busy preparing paperwork most of the day when I got a chance ... yawn [15:01] lol === Padroni is now known as Pad-a-way [15:26] Nikola stopped working! [15:27] It says 'ImportError: No module named datetime' when I try to build [15:27] Must I re-install python? [15:32] no [15:32] lol [15:32] something else you did wrong [15:33] import error only? [15:33] Must I run Nikola in the virtual environment? [15:33] not you must be in a site to do it [15:33] yes [15:34] what site do you want to see? [15:35] inetpro woot i dont know what happened but africa running here on local [15:35] http://picpaste.com/africa_site-mJR3IUh3.png [15:35] I am. A branch I made to add the trello link [15:35] did you fix something superfly [15:36] wait for pro mopkop [15:36] he understands these things [15:36] go see my picpaste so long [15:37] sigh i need to solder my glasses back together [15:39] mopkop: see: https://trello.com/c/wLYOqOld/42-learn-to-use-nikola-and-bzr [15:39] * inetpro wbbl [15:43] I already set up everything. It worked Yesterday before I updated Ubuntu to 14.10. I think it might have deleted a file. [15:43] just run that stuff i pasted for you yesterday [15:43] something is missing [15:49] I tried to do everything from scratch. I cannot clone pyenv, because it says it is already there, everything is fine until I type in pip install --upgrade nikola, then it tells me "Too many levels of symbolic links" [15:50] oh my [15:50] I think I broke bash. [15:51] im lost young man wait for a brian [15:51] brain [15:51] Gonna try a restart. [15:51] oh the pc? [15:51] of [16:27] mopkop are you winning [16:28] No, I reinstalled Python, still the same problem. I think 'Too many levels of symbolic links' mean the filepath is too long. [16:28] I'm going to try and delete the pyenv program and clone it all over again. [16:29] i dont know but im sure its a little thing you are missing [16:29] isnt there a nikola update thingie [16:30] run nikola version [16:32] It's the virtual environment that doesn't work. [16:33] Now my terminal is gone! [16:33] eish [16:34] And the software centre! [16:34] I'm just breaking stuff here. [16:34] looks like [16:34] cant you get a terminal at all? [16:35] I'ts not on the computer anymore. [16:35] But there are 2 other terminals. [16:35] another one i mean [16:35] UXterm and XTerm [16:36] sjoe you do funny stuff [16:36] how do you open terminals [16:36] I just type in ter in the search box and press enter [16:36] just do ctrl+alt+t [16:37] Yay, Thank you. [16:37] I guess this terminal is ok. [16:37] Is there a way to undo changes I made? [16:38] you can go reboot and choose recovery mode and maybe even use an earlier one [16:39] Let's try that... [16:39] if you remember changes you can find them and delete them [16:39] F8? [16:39] The problem is, I want to undo the deletion. [16:39] I have no Idea how I deleted the terminal. [16:39] oh [16:39] you work too fast [16:40] uh [16:40] lo inetpro [16:41] mopkop you need to learn kubuntu it doesnt break so easy [16:41] how do you delete the terminal? [16:41] seems like he did it easy [16:41] I have no idea [16:41] unlikely [16:41] Maaz: assumption [16:41] An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts [16:41] sigh [16:42] you mean you deleted the icon? [16:43] Well I can't get to it. [16:43] It doesn't show up on the search-thing [16:43] doesn't mean it's deleted [16:44] How do I access it then? [16:44] ctrl + alt + t [16:45] That opens Xterminal [16:45] aptitude search terminal [16:46] It gives me a list of things? [16:47] i'm just going to restart and see what happens... [16:47] does anyone have an i in front? [16:48] huh? [16:48] ai tog! [16:49] how do people learn this weird thing that they believe a reboot will fix everything? [16:49] windows [16:50] unlearning is the hard part [16:51] and even the idea that the recovery mode will magically fix everything as well [16:51] weird! [16:51] it does fix some things [16:52] you need to know how and what to fix though [16:52] hmm... i havent used recovery once on kde [16:57] Restarting broke everything! [16:57] oh my [16:57] Now I can't even see the status bar. [16:58] Or open any programs, or any terminal. [16:58] terminal [16:58] what did you do? [16:58] Ar those programs all written in Python? [16:58] Or at least dependend upon python? [16:58] Cause I reinstalled it. [16:59] i go eat [16:59] ai! [16:59] last shot mopkop [16:59] cant you open a terminal at all? [16:59] you uninstalled python? [17:00] Nope, not even with ctrl+alt+t [17:00] Yes :( [17:00] alt+f2 [17:00] I Thought reinstalling it will fix the environment problem. [17:01] I'll just reinstall Ubuntu from scratch. [17:01] I'm in windows now. [17:01] sounds like we found Kilos' clone [17:02] :-D [17:02] It's how I learn - by breaking things :) [17:02] reinstalling and rebooting is not the magic solution to everything [17:03] you need to figure how you broke it [17:03] My only guess is because I removed python. [17:03] sudo apt-get remove python2.7 [17:03] ai [17:04] how do you connect with the machine to the Web? [17:05] Well I tried sudo apt-get install python2.7 after that. I guess removing something automatically removes all the programs it is dependant upon. What do you meen? I'm in Windows now. [17:05] Through a Lan cable [17:05] ADSL [17:05] you can fall back to command line [17:06] How? [17:06] by pressing ctrl + alt + f1 [17:06] Ok let me go try that. [17:06] How do I restore to a previous point? [17:07] no such thing, that I am aware of [17:08] * inetpro has never uninstalled python but would guess a lot depends on it these days [17:09] ai, and mopkop is way too impatient as well [17:10] Google is your friend [17:15] CTRL+ALT+F! worked. [17:15] I needed to sudo apt-get install Unity [17:15] and gnome-terminal [17:16] and pidgin [17:16] Still doing damage control... [17:16] rofl [17:17] Maaz note NEVER remove Python. [17:17] mopkop: What? [17:18] haha [17:18]