[00:00] <nemaona> yart: the application mspyt shows them, but irssi doesn't
[00:00] <kostkon> !quietirc
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> aum: Depends on the programming language, you might want to try the IRC channel for the specific language in question.
[00:01] <yart> nemaona: give me a minute. i have to try something
[00:01] <nemaona> ty
[00:01] <aum> Odd-rationale, my bad, I meant to post that to the js group, but xchat was being a pain
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> aum: No big deal. :-)
[00:02] <bindi> so how can i create a raid0 array and install ubuntu on that?
[00:03] <intrader> kll, I have not located the part command
[00:03] <daftykins> !raid | bindi
[00:05] <bindi> mdadm: super1.x cannot open /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy
[00:06] <afroman> hello. I can't get my pc to hibernate, and I believe it might have something to do with the swap partition not being able to be used but I'm unsure. plz help
[00:08] <bindi> so
[00:08] <bindi> mdadm says device busy, fuser -mv /dev/sda1 says nothing
[00:10] <yart> nemaona: check this out http://superuser.com/questions/509950/why-are-unicode-characters-not-rendering-correctly maybe your locales are not set properly
[00:10] <nemaona> ok, thank you
[00:11] <nemaona> before I look the article, I wanted to explain that I typed "locale -a", and it showed many english UTF8, like thisen_ZW.utf8
[00:11] <nemaona> POSIX
[00:11] <nemaona> ru_RU.utf8
[00:12] <nemaona> ru_UA.utf8
[00:21] <stikkemz> hey guys
[00:24] <afroman> hello. I can't get my pc to hibernate, and I believe it might have something to do with the swap partition not being able to be used but I'm unsure. after running dpkg-reconfigure uswsup I get a message from cryptsetup "WARNING: found more than one resume device candidate:  " and 2 uuid
[00:24] <yart> nemaona: my terminal has no problem with cyrillic characters. what's your font?
[00:24] <stikkemz> i`m running ubuntu 14.10 and i find myself having some issues after some heavy 'apt-get upgrade's.. specially when they install new kernels, usually resulting in missing kernel headers and stuff. This then leads to some popup errors with "REPORT ISSUE" after reboot. Anyone else experiencing this?
[00:27] <nemaona> yart: can you please suggest some irc channel in irc.freenode.net where cyrilic font is written, because I experienced problems when i tried to connect to irc.run.net
[00:27] <Ben64> !ru | nemaona
[00:28] <nemaona> ubottu: yes, this is the problem, here letters work, there must be something wrong when I connect to that other irc server
[00:29] <daftykins> that server is not our problem
[00:29] <nemaona> ubottu: yes, sure
[00:29] <daftykins> you're talking to a bot
[00:30] <lasko> lol
[00:30] <nemaona> i'm a polite bot
[00:30] <lasko> Bot talking to a bot. gg.
[00:30] <daftykins> i guess it's my fault for starting silly sunday :(
[00:31] <nemaona> skynet.
[00:31] <stikkemz> =)))
[00:33] <hardtail> hey guys, salvaged my old MacBook Pro. to dual boot Ubuntu rEFInd is still needed today correct?
[00:33] <daftykins> no
[00:33] <daftykins> hardtail: you've read the page for your model presumably?
[00:33] <daftykins> if it has a recent release documented
[00:34] <hardtail> no I will do that now I was looking at "How to Geeks" guide to install Ubuntu on OSX
[00:34] <daftykins> that's unwise
[00:35] <hardtail> ok
[00:35] <daftykins> i'd just resize the HFS+ volume inside OS X, then try booting from flash drive/DVD and installing beside
[00:35] <daftykins> depends what model though really, in x,y format
[00:36] <hardtail> Early 2011, 8,2 - so I need to check this on the Ubuntu hardware compatibility?
[00:36] <daftykins> !mac
[00:36] <hardtail> ah thanks daftykins
[00:37] <daftykins> wow nothing since oneiric
[00:37] <daftykins> !oneiric
[00:37] <daftykins> tee-hee
[00:37] <hardtail> XD so that's not ideal then?
[00:38] <daftykins> just means you get to write the new guide :) signup and you can work on it too
[00:38] <jmadero> hi all - I'm moving from nfs to samba and need some help getting it to mount
[00:38] <daftykins> i wrote a page for an old macbook i got given
[00:38] <jmadero> anyone around who can walk me through it?
[00:38] <daftykins> gonna need more info than that, jmadero
[00:38] <daftykins> :>
[00:39] <jmadero> daftykins: honestly need help nearly from the beginning :-/ I've used nfs for years but it's causing some issues for me
[00:39] <hardtail> haha that would be fun daftykins, i am working on linux foundation training and switching all my hardware to ubuntu now
[00:39] <jmadero> daftykins: I installed samba on the server (Pi), I *think* I have the folder I need shared
[00:39] <daftykins> hardtail: ah, neat. i need to get back on the edx.org course soon, got distracted
[00:39] <jmadero> I installs cifs on the client
[00:40] <jmadero> I guess I created a samba group and added my user to it
[00:40] <daftykins> sounds unnecessary
[00:40] <jmadero> daftykins: that's what I thought, but followed ubuntu documentation
[00:40] <jmadero> daftykins: I get this when I try to mount mount error(112): Host is down
[00:41] <jmadero> host is not down though
[00:41] <daftykins> jmadero: so, step #1 is duplicating /etc/samba/smb.conf to /smb.conf.original to make a backup. Once that's done, edit it to create a share definition
[00:41] <daftykins> oh you've already gotten that far?
[00:41] <jmadero> yes
[00:41] <jmadero> hold on let me share my conf
[00:41] <daftykins> can you pastebin the file so i can... hehe
[00:41] <jmadero> it's pretty simple one - literally one external drive
[00:41] <daftykins> mmhmm
[00:42] <daftykins> i was banging my head on the desk for hours once when i got a = sign missed or misplaced in the config though
[00:43] <jmadero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/sic14BcH
[00:43] <jmadero> daftykins: basically just want to share that /media/MEGAMAN
[00:44] <daftykins> is it ext4?
[00:44] <jmadero> ntfs unfortunately
[00:44] <daftykins> blaaaaaaargh
[00:44] <jmadero> I know :-/
[00:44] <daftykins> what does owner:group look like, when you "ls -al" in that path?
[00:45] <jmadero> daftykins: on server?
[00:45] <daftykins> yep
[00:45] <jmadero> drwx------  1 pi   pi   4096 Feb 12 12:55 MEGAMAN
[00:46] <daftykins> jmadero: ok, have you run "sudo smbpasswd -a pi" to create an SMB password for pi?
[00:46] <jmadero> did not
[00:46] <shurtagul> lasko, Heres the most recent documentation lol. https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Documentation/ You still have legacy streaming documentation.
[00:46] <daftykins> it's meant to use the one you login with i think, but i've never seen it work
[00:46] <jmadero> should I?
[00:46] <daftykins> yep
[00:47] <jmadero> done
[00:47] <daftykins> so from the client, install 'smbclient' and try "smbclient //IP of Pi/share -U pi"
[00:48] <jmadero> daftykins: even though on the client there is no user "Pi"
[00:48] <jmadero> and should "share" be replaced with media/MEGAMAN?
[00:49] <daftykins> nope, a share name is what is in [] within the config
[00:49] <daftykins> correct, this is picking how you want to auth against the remote server with (credentials wise)
[00:49] <jmadero> Connection to 192.168.1.66 failed (Error NT_STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR)
[00:49] <daftykins> i answered those two out of order to keep you on your toes *whistle* :D
[00:50] <daftykins> can you ping?
[00:50] <jmadero> daftykins: I can ssh into it
[00:50] <jmadero> and mount it via nfs fine
[00:50] <ConanDaCimmerian> :D
[00:50] <jmadero> and yeah I can ping it
[00:51] <daftykins> ah yeah that's a fair point. hey, it's sunday
[00:51] <daftykins> well not anymore in my timezone...
[00:51] <daftykins> what OS is on each?
[00:52] <jmadero> raspbmc on the pi, ubuntu 14.10 on client
[00:52] <daftykins> hrmm, i don't know how to deal with raspbmc for ensuring the services are running then
[00:53] <jmadero> oh let me google real quick
[00:53] <daftykins> technically out of scope for the channel :<
[00:53] <daftykins> hopefully it's the standard "sudo service blah start/restart/stop" where blah is smbd or smb or somesuch
[00:53] <twiler> Hey daftykins! Just the man I was hoping to run into! OK, dude, I have a doozie for ya!
[00:54] <twiler> So, here's my issue:
[00:54] <artifice> hi
[00:54]  * daftykins gets excited
[00:56] <twiler> I am trying to install a playstation 2 emulator, and  I have extracted the files for it into it's own folder: "pcsx2-1.2.2", ok?
[00:56] <daftykins> well, having downloaded it and not got it in package form is a real shame
[00:56] <twiler> is that at me, daftykins?
[00:56] <daftykins> yep
[00:56] <Schnabeltierchen> http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?446887 <- may someone help a noob?
[00:57] <daftykins> assuming that there *might* be a package that is
[00:57] <daftykins> !find pcsx
[00:57] <twiler> LOL, ok, so, wehat should I be looking for?
[00:57] <daftykins> mmm maybe not
[00:57] <Squall5668> there is a ppa....
[00:57] <jmadero> daftykins: restarted samba
[00:57] <jmadero> same result
[00:57]  * jmadero sighs
[00:57] <ikonia> twiler: did you look at the package manager as I instructed you to ?
[00:57] <mike802> http://mike802.blogspot.com/2015/02/new-direction.html
[00:58] <daftykins> Schnabeltierchen: go to #bash
[00:58] <twiler> NO! I forgot to do that!
[00:58] <Schnabeltierchen> kk ^^
[00:58] <mike802> anyone care that i'm running out of stuff to do?
[00:58] <mike802> for the fans
[00:58] <ikonia> twiler: you lie - you said you where reading it at the time
[00:58] <twiler> LOL, can you tell me how to do that again?
[00:58] <daftykins> mike802: this is not a chat channel. #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[00:58] <twiler> No ,dude, I really was!
[00:58] <twiler> I don't lie about anything!
[00:58] <ikonia> 19:51 < twiler> I am reading it right now!
[00:58] <kostkon> twiler, open the software centre, search for it, install
[00:59] <mike802> ty
[00:59] <mike802> anyone excited about the steam box?
[00:59] <ikonia> mike802: not for this channel
[00:59] <mike802> no
[01:00] <mike802> doesn't it run linux
[01:00] <mike802> sorry, must not be ubuntu
[01:00] <nicety> so i just did a factory reset on my dell
[01:00] <twiler> I have brain damage, dude.. LIterally, ok? I sufered from an anoxic brain injury, which caused damage to the globus palladus of my brain, which is the area that controls the transition from short term to long term memory, ok? SO, I NEVER LIE, I LEGITIMATELY FORGET STUFF, RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPNS
[01:00] <ikonia> mike802: it's nothing to do with this channel, so please keep it out
[01:00] <iridescent> oh mu
[01:00] <twiler> happens*
[01:00] <nicety> and i'm pretty horrified... their backup service can't be disabled unless you have the pro version
[01:00] <daftykins> mike802: you see that bit where i said not a chat channel? :)
[01:00] <mike802> no
[01:00] <nicety> time to learn linux
[01:00] <mike802> steam migrating to ubuntu isn't a big deal
[01:00] <daftykins> mike802: it's support questions *only* In here.
[01:00] <nicety> actually time to buy a new system
[01:00] <mike802> that's a little insulting
[01:01] <mike802> oh, i get it
[01:01] <nicety> can somebody recommend to me a laptop brand that has the least privacy invasion
[01:01] <kostkon> mike802, this is a support channel
[01:01] <nicety> so i can throw ubuntu on there
[01:01] <ikonia> nicety: the brand has nothing to do with your privacy
[01:01] <ikonia> nicety: try the ##hardware channel
[01:01] <nicety> ikonia it kind of does
[01:01] <ikonia> nicety: it really doesn't
[01:01] <iridescent> superfish lmao
[01:01] <nicety> lol yes it does
[01:01] <daftykins> it doesn't, seriously foolish claim
[01:02] <nicety> the brand determines firmware
[01:02] <daftykins> any brand could have a nefarious modified boot ROM
[01:02] <nicety> but since you guys don't know
[01:02] <ikonia> nicety: no it doesn't
[01:02] <nicety> i guess is should ask better educated people
[01:02] <nicety> thx
[01:02] <nicety> bye
[01:02] <daftykins> you don't know what you're talking about, sorry :)
[01:02] <daftykins> what an idiot
[01:02] <twiler> daftykins, can you help me out when you get a minute?
[01:02] <ikonia> twiler: read the link
[01:02] <iridescent> dangs cold
[01:02] <ikonia> twiler: it shows you the package manager
[01:02] <daftykins> i thought others were helping you, twiler
[01:02] <twiler> I'll wait patiently.
[01:02] <ikonia> twiler: I just "reminded" you 20 minutes ago
[01:02] <ikonia> twiler: you don't need to wait - read the link
[01:02] <twiler> ok, ikonia.
[01:03] <ikonia> twiler: this level of spoon feeding will not continue
[01:03] <twiler> What's with the quotes?
[01:03] <ikonia> twiler: to "remind" you of the fact that you told me you where already reading the document
[01:09] <sargentmki> beep
[01:09] <twiler> Damn dude, my bad.. I didn't know you were getting so irritated with me, damn, you know what? Don't worry about it, I'll never ask another question here again, ever! Since you decide the level of help that's appropriate, and you get all irritated and junk, I wouldn't want you to end up "spoon - feeding me" too much!! So, I'm outta here! Oh, yeah dude, and just so you know: You just returned me to a loyal windows user, because, at least i
[01:09] <twiler> n those chat rooms, people don't get all high and mighty, and get off on themselves, enforcing "rules" arbitrarily, juust because they happen to notice you asked the same question twice, or you didn't take someone's "advice" quickliy enough, etc.. So,, Yeah dude. You've officially just lost somneone who would have been a lifelong, loyal, advocate of linux, due to your holier than thou attitude. You've stunk up the place, and now, your st
[01:09] <twiler> ink is synonymous with linux to mne..
[01:10] <daftykins> the entitled ones amuse me
[01:11] <ObrienDave> rough crowd tonight ;P
[01:12] <stikkemz> what was that rant about?
[01:12] <ObrienDave> non-appropriate "free" help LOL
[01:12] <daftykins> doesn't matter, move on
[01:12] <compdoc> I got off on myself, and it pissed him off
[01:13] <stikkemz> yeah, he is a windows user at heart.. his attitude is not one that will get him far in linux
[01:13] <hardtail> all I can say is wow.
[01:13] <ikonia> lets not say any more about it and move on with #ubuntu support
[01:14] <ikonia> (please)
[01:14] <stikkemz> agree
[01:17] <noob23> Hi, still trying to figure this out
[01:17] <noob23> My internal soundcard is Realtek ALC272X
[01:17] <daftykins> 'this' ?
[01:18] <daftykins> can you type on one line more? no need to hit enter
[01:18] <noob23> The thing I was here before. My soundcard isn't playing any sounds in my browser, and videos seem to be playing too quickly
[01:18] <noob23> Or rather the frame rate seems higher than normal
[01:19] <crismacjal> ola
[01:20] <noob23> Sorry, I'll be back in a bit
[01:23] <bacon> Hi, I recently encountered an error when using sudo. The error was '<user> is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.' Where is this reported to? To my knowledge, I am the only user.
[01:23] <daftykins> yeah, to root.
[01:23] <daftykins> or any admin probably
[01:23] <Ben64> bacon: what is the output of "groups"
[01:24] <bacon> Sorry, I was just wondering where the log file where it is reported to is.
[01:27] <rnat> bacon are you in the sudoers list?
[01:27] <stikkemz> rnat,  he isn`t..
[01:27] <tnkhanh> hi everyone!
[01:28]  * tnkhanh smiles
[01:28] <DrManhattan> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[01:28] <DrManhattan> STILL no fix for this? Seriously?
[01:30] <rnat> stikkemz: its better to state the reason behind the error explicitly and make him solve it himself. :)
[01:33] <stikkemz> rnat, some people don't get the *hint* :p
[01:39] <rnat> Are there any sys admins in here
[01:40] <k1l> the internet is full of sysadmins ;)
[01:41] <TheNet> rnat: this is #ubuntu, what do you think?
[01:42] <rhapsody> pretty simple question.  I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and I am wondering how do I open pdf links from firefox inside the page and not in my external browser?
[01:42] <Cornell> Evening all.  My ubuntu 12.04 installation is sending about 180 kb/s, and I can't figure out why.  I've rebooted with a Mint LiveCD, and am listening to radio on Totem and I'm sending about 400 b/s.  I'm trying to find out what process is sending the 180 kb/s.
[01:43] <rhapsody> right now it only allows me the option of saving as or open externally
[01:43] <Ben64> rhapsody: what version of firefox
[01:43] <rhapsody> Ben64, it is 36.0
[01:44] <Ben64> open firefox preferences, go to applications, type pdf, what is listed there?
[01:45] <rhapsody> Ben64, I think that answers it....it is set to always ask instead of preview in browser.  Many Thanks!
[01:45] <Ben64> :)
[01:46] <Cornell> I also note that Mint LiveCD netstat currently shows two ESTABLISHED connections, Totem and Pidgin.  But Ubuntu, when using Pidgin, I had three connections.
[01:47] <Cornell> Or maybe it was two, and three PulseAudio connections.  None on LiveCD.
[01:47] <Ben64> Cornell: wireshark
[01:47] <Cornell> Is my PulseAudio doing something wierd?
[01:48] <Cornell> Ben64: I'd used tcpdump to capture a bunch, and opened the captured file with wireshark and... I've no clue what I was looking at.  I did note a large number of RTS going to a 244.0.0.x address.
[01:50] <Cornell> Could PulseAudio have been configured to send out a stream?
[01:50] <Cornell> And how would I find out?
[01:50] <rnat> TheNet: The same thing " this is #ubuntu" :P
[01:50] <Ben64> Cornell: with wireshark...
[01:50] <reconmaster> in virtualbox, got some shared folders mounted and they are in the group vboxsf. my user is in the group vboxsf, but when i try to cd into the folder i get a permission denied unless i am root
[01:50] <reconmaster> any ideas
[01:51] <Ben64> reconmaster: ls -l /path/to/shared/folder
[01:51] <Ben64> reconmaster: correction ---> ls -ld /path/to/shared/folder
[01:53] <reconmaster> Ben64: drwxrwx--- root vboxsf 8192 *date* sf_folder
[01:53] <hardtail> hey daftykins I know you said HFS +, I'm in Disk Utility on OSX . Should Ubuntu has to be non journaled right? All I can choose is ExFat, DOS or Free space.
[01:53] <reconmaster> user i want to have access is in vboxfs
[01:55] <Ben64> reconmaster: are you sure you're a member of that group
[01:55] <daftykins> hardtail: you're only making empty space, you're not going to create anything from OS X
[01:55] <reconmaster> Ben64: groups under that user => wheel vboxsf groups
[01:55] <hardtail> right ok thank you daftykins
[01:55] <reconmaster> whell vboxsf users*
[01:56] <Ben64> reconmaster: so you're not on ubuntu
[01:56] <reconmaster> ?
[01:56] <Ben64> those aren't the groups you'd have under ubuntu
[01:56] <reconmaster> im not typing everything and users is generic for the username
[02:01] <reconmaster> Ben64: if you need to see all the groups here they are
[02:01] <Cornell> How can wireshark show me the process that's sending the data out?
[02:01] <reconmaster> username adm cdrom dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare wheel
[02:02] <Ben64> reconmaster: so what OS are you on
[02:02] <reconmaster> ubuntu
[02:03] <nicety> hi is ikonia here
[02:03] <Ben64> not with that "wheel" group
[02:03] <reconmaster> i changed sudo to wheel for other reasons
[02:03] <reconmaster> sigh nm i'll file a bug report
[02:03] <daftykins> nicety: i hope you're not back to argue again
[02:03] <nicety> no
[02:04] <nicety> i was actually coming back to apologize
[02:04] <nicety> i didn't know he had aspergers
[02:04] <daftykins> applying labels to people won't make your silly idea true, nicety :) now please take it elsewhere.
[02:05] <Ben64> nicety: if you'd like to talk to him, go to #ubuntu-ops
[02:05] <atal421> can anyone explain to me the basics of setting up development environment in the cloud? (on ubuntu, vim, digitalocean or linode, tmux). i've never setup an ubuntu server before
[02:05] <daftykins> 'development environment' means a lot of things.
[02:05] <daftykins> you're going to want to narrow that one down :)
[02:06] <nicety> somebody told me
[02:06] <rnat> vim *sigh*
[02:06] <nicety> so you know, my bad
[02:06] <stikkemz> atal421, why do you want to set up an ubuntu server? hope i don`t get flamed for this but ubuntu is great as a desktop environment but for server environments you would probably better look into centos / debian
[02:07] <daftykins> nothing wrong with ubuntu server
[02:07] <atal421> stikkemz: i'm remote from work for a while
[02:07] <atal421> stikkemz: i'd like to pair with co-workers
[02:07] <Cornell> Gonna leave for a bit, and reboot into Ubuntu
[02:07] <stikkemz> daftykins, i`m not gonna get into why that`s not the case..
[02:07] <atal421> stikkemz: with a server in the cloud we could just ssh in and tmux
[02:07] <atal421> stikkemz: no GUI, interent is slow where i am
[02:07] <daftykins> stikkemz: nah do tell, i'm open to new ideas - certainly not married to a given thought
[02:08] <stikkemz> atal421, so you need to run a desktop environment with multiple people on a central machine?
[02:08] <atal421> daftykins: how can i narrow that "dev envoronment" comment down so that i'm more clear?
[02:08] <gshmu> My Ubuntu 3.13-46 can't shutdown(reboots), I update kernel to 3.16-31, but do nothing after click login
[02:08] <Ben64> stikkemz: if you're going to suggest against something, you should have facts to back it up, or it's just FUD
[02:08] <daftykins> atal421: what do you want to develop...
[02:08] <atal421> stikkemz: not sure "desktop" is needed, but i need ti pair
[02:09] <daftykins> a GUI on a VPS is just oodles and oodles of wrong
[02:09] <atal421> daftykins: rails
[02:09] <daftykins> ok, so some web jazz
[02:09] <daftykins> i know nothing about that
[02:09] <atal421> web jazz it is
[02:10] <atal421> daftykins: this isn't a web jazz question, this is a "once i buy a digital ocean server and i log in, do i need to do anything or can i just apt-get my dev environment up?" question
[02:10] <stikkemz> Ben64, ubuntu means canonical so they package thins as they consider, and let's face it.. ubuntu is great but it isn`t really the most stable distro available
[02:10] <Ben64> stikkemz: again, no facts
[02:11] <stikkemz> Ben64, on a server you really want stability, and from past experience I never had issues with debian/centos on servers
[02:11] <daftykins> atal421: well if you want a GUI, getting a VPS is just... no
[02:11] <stikkemz> Ben64, but i can`t seem to not have problems with ubuntu from time to time
[02:11] <atal421> daftykins: no gui
[02:11] <cornell> Hello again
[02:11] <atal421> daftykins: it's vim + tmux
[02:12] <Ben64> stikkemz: anecdotal...
[02:12] <stikkemz> Ben64, if you`re gonna be a jesus freak about it, be my guest
[02:12] <daftykins> atal421: why don't you just throw $10 on a digitalocean account then try?
[02:12] <stikkemz> Ben64,  go marry canonical for all i care
[02:12] <daftykins> anyway i have to go now.
[02:12] <DrMax> question: aside from Avahi, what Ubuntu package could broadcast SSDP packets?
[02:12] <atal421> daftykins: haha, cause i didn't want to screw it up... i really have no idea about the first thing to do after one buys an account on one of these services
[02:12] <cornell> Google told me about nethogs.
[02:12] <daftykins> stikkemz: why would you bring religion into this? that's childish and beneath this channel, don't bring such silly statements here again please.
[02:13] <cornell> I've rebooted into Ubuntu, installed nethogs and run, as root, for eth1 (don't have an eth0)
[02:13] <daftykins> use what you want, but yeah your opinion is based on your own experience alone - as is mine that mine run fine :>
[02:14] <cornell> Nethogs shows appropriate sent and received, sending about 0.5 kb/s.  But System Monitor is showing sending 180 kb/s.
[02:15] <Hardtail> hey daftykins, just tried to usb after creating the free space. it found the installer no problem - selected "try ubuntu" then it went to load, black screen with 'no device controller found" it actually turned the backlighting on my keyboard and then just hung there so I had to force a reboot
[02:16] <rnat> atal421: play some interstellar bgm and read this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/initial-server-setup-with-ubuntu-14-04
[02:16] <daftykins> hrmm, novel
[02:16] <atal421> rnat: thanks for the link, not sure i understand what interstellar bgm means though
[02:17] <stikkemz> daftykins, it wasn`t a religious thing, it was a a joke.. canonical packages things following some standards that other distros (like debian) create. It`s the same concept behind not installing Mint instead of ubuntu.. yeah, mint looks nice, but it`s based on older versions of ubuntu, so if you want the newest packages you will go for ubuntu over mint.. same things goes for ubuntu and debian
[02:17] <Ben64> cornell: pastebin the output of "netstat -np | grep -v ^unix"
[02:17] <Ben64> !latest | stikkemz
[02:17] <rnat> atal421: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8lcyHro8g if you get bored reading
[02:18] <cornell> Any particular pastebin y'all like?
[02:18] <daftykins> seems like no factor to me
[02:18] <daftykins> !paste
[02:19] <cornell> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10495975/
[02:19] <Ben64> cornell: theres your answer (probably)
[02:20] <cornell> What are you seeing, Ben64?
[02:20] <Ben64> shows what connections you have and whats making them
[02:20] <Ben64> dropbox, pidgin, totem
[02:20] <cornell> Yes
[02:20] <stikkemz> Ben64, right.. ok.. categorized me and this conversation is over.
[02:21] <cornell> Dropbox should be doing next to nothing, pidgin a bit more, and totem sending littile, receiving a lot.
[02:21] <cornell> Which nethogs shows
[02:22] <Ben64> cornell: i'm not seeing the issue?
[02:23] <cornell> Interesting, Ben64.  I don't see anything in netstat, nor nethogs, but the System Monitor is showing that I'm sending 180 kb/s.
[02:23] <cornell> It seems like I have three tools, two are saying  all's well, and the third is saying I'm sending out piles of stuff.
[02:24] <cornell> I'm thinking two are right and one is wrong.
[02:24] <daftykins> close the other programs, watch for a change
[02:24] <cornell> Me, daftykins?
[02:25] <xbox> hello
[02:25] <daftykins> cornell: yep
[02:26] <cornell> I've tried that, with totem and dropbox, no effect.  But when I kill pulseaudio, it restarts immediately.
[02:26] <xbox> algum br aqui
[02:26] <Hardtail> dafty would that error be from an improper usb build or because of the bootloader topic we discussed earlier?
[02:26] <Ben64> !br | xbox
[02:26] <cornell> bbiab
[02:26] <Ben64> cornell: pulseaudio -k
[02:27] <daftykins> Hardtail: depends if you're booting EFI or legacy i guess, it might factor in your success.
[02:27] <cornell> pulseaudio shows with a new pid.
[02:28] <daftykins> i gotta sleep, nn fellow volunteers \o
[02:28] <Hardtail> I believe the usb was EFI but I guess you mean the system
[02:29] <Hardtail> ok, goodnight daftykins take care and thanks once again friend
[02:29] <daftykins> np :) good luck
[02:31] <KillshotBR> help i am BR
[02:32] <atal421> rnat music? not sure i follow? but i did see the movie on the way over here (i'm in japan)
[02:32] <Hardtail> anyone have experience installing ubuntu on a macbook pro? I partitioned some 100gb free space in disk utility, built USB 64bit and booted into it. Got to Grub selected try ubuntu and the only error was 'no device controller'
[02:33] <somsip> !mac | Hardtail
[02:35] <rnat> atal421: idk about you but some music just like interstellar and ghost in the shell makes reading dry article interesting
[02:35] <atal421> rnat: ahhhh, i see
[02:35] <Hardtail> thanks somsip
[02:36] <rnat> atal421: :P
[02:39] <lancaster> join /#linux
[02:40] <somsip> lancaster: /join #linux
[02:40] <trrees> Hi, I have booted lubuntu from a usb on an old ThinkPad, but I cannot detect Wifi... any thought on what to do?
[02:40] <lancaster> my bad i knew that one lol
[02:41] <lancaster> i'm wondering if its possible put a password on su command
[02:41] <lancaster> so if do a sudo su
[02:42] <lancaster> i get a different password that my user had
[02:43] <cornell> back
[02:43] <trrees> I tried going to the additional drivers section, but it says that no propietary drivers are detected.
[02:46] <rnat> trrees: lspci | grep -i wireless
[02:46] <Ben64> lancaster: you should not be doing "sudo su"
[02:46] <cornell> I'm thinking that System Monitor isn't showing an accurate situation.  Seem reasonable?
[02:47] <trrees> rnat: I'll try that; is the bar between lspci and grep necessary?
[02:47] <Ben64> cornell: possibly
[02:47] <Ben64> trrees: yes
[02:47] <cornell> lancaster: sudo su may be convenient but it defeats the purpose of protecting your system from mistakes, or worse.
[02:47] <trrees> Ben64: How does one type it?
[02:48] <Ben64> cornell: it also creates a bad environment and can cause problems and prevent you from logging in
[02:48] <Ben64> trrees: shift + \ usually
[02:48] <cornell> I'm going with that, Ben64; System Monitor is misinforming.
[02:48] <cornell> That too Ben64.
[02:49] <lancaster> Ben64 thanks how can i remove su from my user?
[02:49] <Ben64> lancaster: not sure what you mean
[02:49] <lancaster> so when i try sudo su i get a permission denied
[02:50] <lancaster> i dont want my user can be a root
[02:50] <cornell> Wouldn't that be the sudoers file?
[02:51] <lancaster> so i need do sudo but not su with this specific user
[02:52] <trrees> rnat: I entered this and received no output.
[02:53] <trrees> rnat: I suppose that means that there is no wireless capability?
[02:53] <Ben64> lancaster: what do you need sudo for then? and for real, don't use "sudo su"
[02:54] <rnat> trrees: to confirm that you can try lshw
[02:54] <rnat> trrees: you may have to install lshw
[02:55] <trrees> rnat: lshw gives lots of output... what am I looking for?
[02:55] <lancaster> it dont asks for a password
[02:55] <lancaster> if i put a password on root user i will asked?
[02:56] <trrees> rnat: I found a CardBus bridge
[02:56] <lancaster> that will solve my problem
[02:56] <Ben64> lancaster: that will not solve your problem, it will create more
[02:56] <trrees> rnat: PCI1520 PC card Cardbus Controller from Texas Instruments.
[02:56] <Ben64> lancaster: please answer my question
[02:56] <lancaster> why?
[02:57] <Ben64> because thats how this channel works
[02:57] <rnat> trrees: you should be looking under the network section
[03:00] <trrees> rnat: There is an ethernet interface....
[03:00] <cornell> Well, thank you all for your kind assistance and patience, especially Ben64... But I've got to go shovel snow with ice on it ;-(
[03:00] <trrees> rnat: ...and that looks to be all.
[03:01] <rnat> trrees:  description: Wireless interface
[03:03] <shurtagul> http://uppix.com/f-142524039350954f3d0ac0018705d.png What do I put in Path?
[03:03] <lancaster> sorry i didnt see your question my what was about why will not solve my problem
[03:03] <trrees> rnat: Nothing.... which is odd because the product description : http://www.cnet.com/products/thinkpad-t/specs/ says it has wifi...
[03:03] <Ben64> lancaster: what do you need sudo for?
[03:04] <lancaster> my user need root priviliges but can turn in root user with su
[03:04] <Ben64> lancaster: ok, thats what you don't need sudo for, what do you need sudo for??
[03:04] <lancaster> need install and remove packages
[03:05] <tmh1999> Hi guys, I hope some one could help me :D I am running Ubuntu Precise 12.04 and I have a process start at startup : /usr/lib/libmenu-cache1/libexec/menu-cached . I am wondering what is this process and what does it do?
[03:08] <Ben64> lancaster: do you have a second user with full permissions to use sudo already?
[03:08] <shurtagul> Anyone experienced in using vlc to stream over http?
[03:08] <lancaster> nope but thinking on create one
[03:08] <Ben64> lancaster: well you need to if you want to limit sudo on a user
[03:08] <tmh1999> Hi guys, I hope some one could help me :D I am running Ubuntu Precise 12.04 and I have a process start at startup : /usr/lib/libmenu-cache1/libexec/menu-cached . I am wondering what is this process and what does it do?
[03:08] <tmh1999> sorry I just got disconnected
[03:09] <rnat> trrees: try installing iwlegacy
[03:09] <yourname_> google it
[03:09] <Ben64> yourname_: not helpful
[03:09] <trrees> rnat: Okay - how might I do this with not ethernet? Can I transfer it by usb?
[03:11] <rnat> trrees: yup
[03:18] <trrees> rnat: which one would you recommend :https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlegacy ?
[03:23] <Guest15407> ss
[03:24] <Guest15407> hio
[03:32] <dsyntax> i've noticed performance decrease when i am writing to the swap... would anyone reccomend a super low swapiness (05-10) or no swap at all...
[03:32] <dsyntax> :)
[03:40] <Bashing-om> dsyntax: depends; under load what returns from terminal command -> free <- for the 'swap' usage ?
[03:41] <killshotBR> help
[03:41] <killshotBR> algum rasileiro....
[03:49] <dsyntax> Bashing-om, i'll check it out, usually its when i'm downloading torrents (large ones)... i'll usually be at 2-5% on qbittorrent... then when its writing i'll be at 99% usage.
[03:50] <dsyntax> i'd say i was at like 25% active and 75% cache
[03:51] <Bashing-om> dsyntax: Sounds like ya running low on ram, and having to compensate with using swap apace .. how much ram is installed ?
[03:54] <bryan> which is best between 14.04 and 14.10
[03:54] <Ben64> bryan: depends on your needs
[03:55] <lasko> The term "best" of anything is very personal and depends on your needs.
[03:56] <lasko> Generally a high version of something implies it has been revisioned to have "better" stuff in it or "better bugs" depending on how you look at it lol
[03:56] <lasko> But ultimately it is against based on your needs/wants and the amount of work you're willing to put into it.
[03:57] <lasko> again*
[03:57] <dsyntax> Bashing-om, i've got 4gb ram :/
[03:58] <bryan> my laptop seems to be a hole lot slower with 14.10
[03:59] <Bashing-om> bryan: 14.04 == Long Term Support == stability . 14.10 has 9 months support. are you willing to trade newest for the effort ?
[03:59] <dsyntax> all seems to work well... it just gets sluggish for 5 seconds when qbittorrent writes... i guess i'll just have to deal... would you say i shouldn't disable swap?
[04:00] <dsyntax> Bashing-om, i like how you threw the == in there XD
[04:00] <Bashing-om> dsyntax: You should not be hammering swap with 4 gigs of ram ... I too run 4 gigs .. and have swappines set to a value of 10 .. I rarely touch the swap partiton ( and I have a very small swap partition) .
[04:01] <dsyntax> i've got my swappiness at 10 as well... i think i'll have to wait till my next rig
[04:01] <dsyntax> <--- poor man with a single core
[04:02] <bryan> i have 14.04 back on it now.  which one has the longest support time?
[04:02] <elow> dsyntax, you won't have my sympathy
[04:03] <dsyntax> elow, i doubt i will ever get that :D
[04:03] <bazhang> bryan 14.04 has five years support
[04:03] <Bashing-om> dsyntax: Poor folks got poor ways ... me I learn to replace the motherboard . A mother board is now-a-days is affordable ( just a few pennies a-day put away) ..
[04:04] <bryan> ok thanks.
[04:05] <dsyntax> Bashing-om, i'm running a laptop, celeron @ 1.8 ghz, 4gb ram ddr2... i've been thinking to buy a pentium 4 extreme (same chipset) for $6
[04:05] <dsyntax> probably the best investment i could do.
[04:07] <Bashing-om> dsyntax: Celeron; what DE are you running ? have you considered a lighter environment ?
[04:12] <dsyntax> Bashing-om, i'm on mate atm. same happens with xfce
[04:12] <dsyntax> and lxde
[04:14] <dsyntax> Bashing-om, i'm gonna pass out, i'm sure i'll see you again in the future :D goodnight
[04:15] <Bashing-om> dsyntax: Yeah. I try to be around .. tried different torrent clients ? ( I am sure) ... is torrenting the only time swap space is hit so hard ?
[04:17] <dsyntax> pretty much, and seems its when i'm downloading large torrents 10gb+ (i like games, getting one of the largest native linux game collections
[04:30] <trrees> Is it possible that lspci wouldn't detect a wifi device?
[04:32] <bazhang> trrees, if its a usb dongle
[04:32] <duckey> Hello. I am having some problems with my pc. I tried to install Debian Linux on it and I had on gui to work with. Then I tried to install Ubuntu 14.04.1 and now nothing will reconize my hard drive. I am completely lost. Please help. Ps I techencally dont have an OS. But I prefer Linux.
[04:33] <duckey> *Hello. I am having some problems with my pc. I tried to install Debian Linux on it and I had on gui to work with. Then I tried to install Ubuntu 14.04.1 and now nothing will reconize my hard drive. I am completely lost. Please help. Ps I techencally dont have an OS. But I prefer Linux.
[04:33] <trrees> bazhang: Do you mean, connects by usb port? This one is in the laptop itself I believe...
[04:33] <duckey> woah
[04:34] <sidi> whats the name of the default icon theme in 15.04?
[04:35] <atal421> can anyone explain to me how to share a directory and all it's contents between all users on the machine?
[04:35] <atal421> i crated a fodler called "shared"
[04:36] <atal421> i want any user who loggs in to see the "shared" directory and be able to add remove from it
[04:36] <Jpmh> ata
[04:36] <Jpmh> atal421: set the directory to permits 0777 and then all can read/write
[04:37] <atal421> Jpmh: sounds good, i know nothing of how to do this... i've been googling for a while. can i ahve a link? perhaps i'm not googling the right term
[04:37] <Jpmh> atal421: mkdir /shared;chmod 0777 /shared
[04:37] <atal421> on it
[04:38] <pizenblues> kk
[04:39] <atal421> Jpmh: when i log out and log in as another user i don't see the "shared" directory at all
[04:40] <Jpmh> atal421: how are you looking for it
[04:40] <atal421> just logging in, good point
[04:40] <atal421> one sec
[04:41] <atal421> Jpmh: so i want something like, every user that logs in, will see the "shared" directory in their "home"
[04:41] <atal421> home folder/home directory.... whatever that first workspace is once they've logged in
[04:41] <Jpmh> that's a little different - then I would probably link, look up the ln command, that /shared into their homes
[04:42] <atal421> symlink or something
[04:43] <Jpmh> no, look up the ln, that is the link command
[04:45] <crlcan81> I know this is supposed to be mostly for Ubuntu and the default programs within Ubuntu, but I'm curious if anyone here knows anything about Cairo Dock, because I've got a small problem whenever I customize my sounds on it.
[04:49] <josselin> hello
[04:50] <josselin> hi everybody
[04:51] <crlcan81> hi doctor nick
[04:55] <benbrunec> is this right channel to ask about support for 208.11 AC WiFi?
[04:56] <icetooth> atal421, you could mount --bind an entire directory
[04:56] <icetooth> bind mount they call it
[04:56] <atal421> icetooth: sure, have no idea what that means
[04:57] <atal421> like, i think i'm just going to create a directory in the basic user home
[04:57] <atal421> and then just make sure suders can see that directory
[04:57] <crlcan81> well if it means what I think it means the 'mount' command causes a directery to be used, and bind makes it stick?
[04:57] <crlcan81> I've never used the bind command, am I correct in my terminology for Linux?
[04:58] <icetooth> yeah mount --bind /path/to/shared/dir /home/user/whetev
[04:59] <atal421> icetooth: so what does that line do?
[04:59] <atal421> mount --bind /path/to/shared/dir /home/user/whetev
[04:59] <icetooth> it mounts one directory at another location
[05:00] <icetooth> so you can have as many directories as you want pointing to a single location
[05:00] <crlcan81> basically creating a 'link' to that directory, that's cool.
[05:00] <crlcan81> I wondered what that command was.
[05:00] <icetooth> or as many as you can stand in /proc/mounts
[05:00] <icetooth> the documentation is available if you type 'man mount'  and search for bind mounts in there
[05:00] <atal421> cool
[05:01] <icetooth> in terminal
[05:05] <Nikesh> In Linux Mint, the prompt shows colour (like <green>chronos@peppy</><blue>~ $</>
[05:05] <Nikesh> How can i achieve this in ubuntu?
[05:07] <nextech> Hello Epson printer L120 can run to ubunto 10.04?
[05:08] <nextech> how to install printer epson L120 into ubuntu OS?
[05:10] <compaq615> holla
[05:10] <compaq615> can somebody help
[05:10] <somsip> !ask | compaq615
[05:13] <compaq615> compaq 615 ,have instaled ubuntu,but overheating,sugest some other
[05:15] <sorenode> Hi, in command line, if I am searching for a file in a particular path; and I want the directory where the file is
[05:15] <sorenode> how do I do that??
[05:15] <somsip> sorenode: what are you using so far?
[05:16] <r00t> You mean like 'find filename'?
[05:16] <EriC^^> sorenode, i think he wants something like dirname
[05:17] <EriC^^> sorenode, dirname /path/to/file
[05:17] <somsip> EriC^^: yeah - pretty sure I did this with him a few days ago which is why I pushed back on him
[05:18] <sorenode> me?
[05:18] <sorenode> I am trying to use cut
[05:18] <sorenode> but dynamic filesize
[05:18] <sorenode> filenam-size
[05:19] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[05:19] <sorenode> figured it thanks for dirname
[05:19] <somsip> sorenode: so what is the current command you are using right now to find this file?
[05:19] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm trying to install a mail server by seeing https://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[05:19] <sorenode> I could do using dirname
[05:19] <sorenode> I am using find
[05:19] <sorenode> and using the output
[05:19] <somsip> sorenode: full command
[05:19] <sorenode> dirname output
[05:19] <Emmanuel_Chanel> My Ubuntu is 14.04. And I need rather UNIX account mail...
[05:20] <Emmanuel_Chanel> But the mail server doesn't work...
[05:20] <tarak_> hey, i cannot compile unity using remake-unity command
[05:22] <sorenode> oops, somsip
[05:22] <sorenode> didn't se
[05:22] <sorenode> but here is what I was using
[05:22] <sorenode> find “$sdir” $file
[05:22] <sorenode> cut -c-12 $file
[05:23] <sorenode> coz my files were having standardnamesize
[05:23] <somsip> sorenode: use this constuct - find . -type f -name '*.png' | xargs -n1 dirname
[05:23] <sorenode> sorry
[05:23] <sorenode> ok ok
[05:23] <sorenode> :)
[05:23] <sorenode> thanks
[05:23] <somsip> sorenode: just swap in your pahe and filename search and that should do it
[05:23] <somsip> *path
[05:28] <miroesq> Frsh install of Ubuntu 10.04.4. Trying to install flex-devel, but getting the message that couldn't find package flex-devel
[05:28] <somsip> !find flex | miroesq
[05:29] <somsip> miroesq: anything in there or on the link that helps?
[05:29] <miroesq> somsip: I will check it out right now. thank you
[05:29] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Kernel says that the segfault occurs...
[05:30] <Emmanuel_Chanel> on /var/log/syslog
[05:31] <wldcordeiro> What's a good PDF reader for Ubuntu? I'm not too fond of the included one.
[05:31] <miroesq> somsip: No, wasn't there.
[05:31] <delt> Hello
[05:32] <EriC^^> wldcordeiro, there's okular
[05:32] <delt> here's a good one. i have an old pci sound card (als4000) ...the driver loads normally at bootup, but i don't get any sound device or midi port
[05:32] <delt> ie. it doesn'
[05:32] <delt> )(*&^%$#
[05:33] <delt> ie. it doesn't show up in, say, pavucontrol or alsamixer, but lsmod clearly shows the module (snd_als4000) loaded.
[05:33] <wldcordeiro> EriC^^: I'll check it out.
[05:33] <wldcordeiro> I wish Sumatra PDF was more than just Windows.
[05:33] <wldcordeiro> Lightweight and awesome.
[05:35] <delt> [pts/9][root@phobos]:~# dmesg | grep -i als4000
[05:35] <delt> [   28.506076] snd_als4000 0000:05:01.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0001)
[05:36] <delt> no idea wtf is going on.....
[05:36] <wldcordeiro> EriC^^: Looks like that's KDE?
[05:36] <delt> yeah, okular is a kde application
[05:41] <greenpiper> hi im having a really weird bluetooth discovery issue.  i have an ubuntu 14 machine and a bluetooth speaker, i successfully paired thte two and was using them, but then i restarted my computer due to a crash, and now the speaker cant be discovered. any ideas?
[05:41] <greenpiper> also, the 'searching for devices' wheel seems to be frozen im not sure if that makes a difference
[05:47] <delt> YESSS my old SB live still works, so no need for that piece of junk :D
[05:47] <delt> i just need the db15 midi port to work
[05:48] <delt> ok good night everyone!
[05:52] <pretodor> guys, consider the following images:
[05:52] <pretodor> img 1: http://i.imgur.com/3oqIj9z.jpg
[05:52] <pretodor> this is my dashboard. as you can see, i have pidgin's icon there
[05:52] <pretodor> img 2: http://i.imgur.com/bK3wQX3.jpg
[05:52] <pretodor> this is my system tray. what i am trying to do is move pidgin from my
[05:52] <pretodor> dashboard to the system tray. i still want pidgin to run in the background
[05:52] <pretodor> but i don't want the program to take any space on my dashboard
[05:52] <pretodor> now here's the kicker: i don't know how to do this
[05:52] <pretodor> I found a solution on a forum where it said that I should change the preferences
[05:52] <pretodor> of 'Show system tray icon' to 'Always' (see img 3: http://i.imgur.com/4i3lU0e.jpg)
[05:53] <pretodor> but that didn't help. i would appreciate any help you guys could give me.
[06:05] <dmoore314> \quit
[06:06] <EriC^^> pretodor, look into blacklisting it in gsettings launcher
[06:08] <pretodor> EriC^^, could you elaborate on that. I am afraid I do not know how to do that.
[06:10] <EriC^^> pretodor, nevermind, there's no option to blacklist anything in dconf-editor
[06:13] <pretodor> EriC^^, okay
[06:22] <miroesq> I have libssl-dev installed, but keep getting this error "error: OpenSSL >= 1.0.1e and associated developement headers required"
[06:34] <crlcan81> Does anyone know a good program to remove video from something like from youtube, and leave just the audio?
[06:34] <Ben64> ffmpeg, mplayer come to mind
[06:37] <crlcan81> didn't know mplayer did that.
[06:37] <crlcan81> I just hope it doesn't do the same thing making a dvd does to my computer :(
[06:38] <crlcan81> Which is better? ffmpeg or mplayer?
[06:38] <crlcan81> by better I mean uses less system resources to do it.
[06:41] <buu> How do I install something that provides syscall-template.S for gdb?
[06:42] <grafs50> I have an arduino uno. Whenever I plug it into a usb port, it gets disconnected. Any ideas why this may be?
[06:42] <Ben64> grafs50: what is the "it" that gets disconnected?
[06:43] <grafs50> I'll post the dmesg | tail info
[06:44] <grafs50> [29577.995117] cdc_acm 1-1.2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device [29577.996120] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_acm [29577.996123] cdc_acm: USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters [29578.453141] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 3
[06:45] <grafs50> [30634.475325] ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x004! [30634.489318] ath: phy0: DMA failed to stop in 10 ms AR_CR=0x00000028 AR_DIAG_SW=0x02000020 DMADBG_7=0x0000a400 [30634.489353] ath: phy0: Could not stop RX, we could be confusing the DMA engine when we start RX up [30660.509070] ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x004! [30660.523083] ath: phy0: DMA failed to stop in 10 ms AR_CR=0x00000028 AR_DIAG_SW=0x02000020 DM
[06:47] <SchrodingersScat> sometimes when I do a copy via file manager, the resulting file isn't the same size.  this is concerning
[06:50] <EriC^^> SchrodingersScat, is it to another filesystem?
[06:53] <kls8426> HI
[06:56] <SchrodingersScat> EriC^^: no, the same. different directory in my home.
[06:57] <SchrodingersScat> I should probably mention I'm in xubuntu 14.10 and using thunar.
[06:57] <fluvvell> Anyone useful with xorg setup? I have a 30" 2550x1600 display which when wrangled to get screen at full resolution, gives sparkly pixels and after a couple of minutes goes black
[07:05] <naga123> ka
[07:06] <naga123> ll
[07:17] <tharinduNA> hi
[07:18] <Nikesh> Hm.. any ideas: I installed Ubuntu on my chromebook, which has no page up/down buttons. How to map them?
[07:20] <EriC^^> Nikesh, xmodmap
[07:20] <EriC^^> Nikesh, open and terminal and type xev, press the keys and get the keycodes
[07:24] <Nikesh> EriC^^: OK. I am unsure how to make a combo with xmodmap. I would like alt+up/down arrow to be page up/down. Alt is 64 and up/down are 111/116. xmodmap -e "keycode 111 = Prior" ???
[07:24] <Nikesh> (but that would make up = page up, not alt+up)
[07:24] <EriC^^> Nikesh, not sure you can make combo's with it i think it's a key per key mapping
[07:24] <__jack> Hi, I want to install Kubuntu 15.04 on my Mac, but is there an amd64+mac iso for it?
[07:25] <EriC^^> Nikesh, there's another tool you could use to make combos
[07:26] <Nikesh> EriC^^: do you know what it is called?
[07:26] <EriC^^> Nikesh, i think it's called xbindkeys
[07:28] <EriC^^> Nikesh, there's also a gui app for it, xbindkeys-config
[07:28] <__jack> I couldn't find a amd64+mac for 14.04/14.10 either.
[07:29] <Nikesh> EriC^^: ah thank you
[07:29] <EriC^^> Nikesh, http://askubuntu.com/questions/105224/ctrl-page-down-ctrl-page-up
[07:29] <EriC^^> Nikesh, no problem
[07:43] <LeBlaaanc> guys how can i make a globbing list run ffmpeg multiple times in a bash script ?
[07:43] <LeBlaaanc> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/48e0586349d7156e8217
[07:51] <Guest96235>  hi anyone done gsm BTS
[07:57] <pgunnars> hey, in dire need of help. I installed CUDA 6.5 on ubuntu 14.x and it completely fubared me, cant log in, network manager is out
[07:58] <pgunnars> tried uninstalling all the nvidia drivers/CUDA toolkit
[07:58] <pgunnars> cant install new ones since I cant connect to the internet
[08:05] <Nikesh> pgunnars: any way to get them onto a flashdrive?
[08:07] <pgunnars> install packages manually?
[08:07] <pgunnars> do you know which ones exacly? nvidia-commons and nvidia-settings?
[08:08] <pgunnars> nvidia-current(
[08:12] <Nikesh> no.. i am not sure, sorry. but yes, should be a way to install them manually if you have them on a drive, you can use dpkg to install them
[08:13] <Nikesh> i assume (not sure) that a large percentage of this channel are in the usa, which are mostly asleep right now. maybe in about 6hrs there will be more people around who could help
[08:18] <pgunnars> is there a reinstall function in dpkg
[08:20] <tnkhanh> pgunnars: does uninstall then install work?
[08:23] <fry_> Where is the ubuntu touch iso for download? I want to install it in a vm
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !touch | fry_
[08:38] <dibblego> sound through HDMI has crackling on 14.04 — can anybody suggest why this is?
[08:43] <Aaran> if I had a deployment of around 200 dual boot macs what would be my best option for binding to and authenticating against active directory?
[08:45] <andy__> switching them to ubuntu
[08:45] <MichaelHabib> lol .. just found out I have 16GB of system log files !! and was wondering why my parition fills up fast
[08:45] <MichaelHabib> file:///var/log/kern.log.1
[08:45] <MichaelHabib> file:///var/log/kern.log
[08:45] <MichaelHabib> file:///var/log/syslog.1
[08:45] <MichaelHabib> file:///var/log/syslog
[08:45] <MichaelHabib> Can I just delete them ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> michael_mbp, yes
[08:46] <cfhowlett> MichaelHabib, ^^
[08:46] <MichaelHabib> ;)
[08:47] <Seburoh> Q: Is there a difference between Lubuntu & Ubuntu besides the default desktop application? Like, if I install Ubuntu, and then manually install LXDE on that, is that different somehow?
[08:47] <hateball> MichaelHabib: if they are that large you should probably have a look at the contents of them tho, something sounds off
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Seburoh, different and look and feel is the primary difference
[08:47] <andy__> Lubuntu uses the Lubuntu-desktop package.
[08:48] <andy__> ...
[08:48] <rosco_y> does anyone have a link explaining how to network windows 8.1 workstation with Ubuntu 14.10 workstation?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !samba | rosco_y
[08:49] <Aaran> The requested URL /12.04/serverguide/C.css/windows-networking.html was not found on this server.
[08:49] <MichaelHabib> hateball: ty, I will watch out for the next logfile and read it, opening a 8GB log file will be hard to read !
[08:50] <MichaelHabib> hehe
[08:50] <andy__> samba would be the best place to start with networking ubuntu and Windows computers together.
[08:50] <MichaelHabib> and I have problem booting ubuntu using root=UUID=xxx  , but works fine with  /dev/sdX#  syntax !
[08:50] <rosco_y> Aaron, ty--I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, and maybe that was why I couldn't open the page :)
[08:51] <MichaelHabib> knowing the UUID is correct and the same one is shown from grub2 CL
[08:52] <pgunnars> tnkhanh: does uninstalling/installing work if the packages are dependencies for stuff?
[08:52] <andy__> Are you using apt-get to install?
[08:53] <pgunnars> no i cant
[08:54] <pgunnars> no internet
[08:54] <pgunnars> manually installing .debs
[08:54] <andy__> I think there is a command to make it list dependencies.
[08:56] <pgunnars> no i mean
[08:58] <andy__> I can't find the command from within the dpkg man page.  Perhaps it is in apt-cache.
[08:59] <andy__> There may be some error codes if you are installing with dpkg -i.
[09:01] <andy__> You might try apt-cache depends to find out which packages depends on which other packages.
[09:09] <andy__> sleepy ....
[09:09] <MichaelHabib> Q: My usbuntu install uses 18 GB disk space , 2 GB for the /home/directory   & empty /tmp/  .. is that normal ? (minimal apps installed)
[09:09] <MichaelHabib> the /user/  is 5GB+
[09:10] <andy__> 9 GB may be normal for all but the /home folders.
[09:11] <andy__> du -sh can show you how much an individual folder is using on your computer.
[09:12] <andy__> Have a good night.
[09:13] <lops> baobab is a graphical application that displays how disk usage is spread across subdirectories
[09:13] <lops> it's called Disk Usage Analyzer IIRC
[09:13] <MichaelHabib> CL is fine as long as I can sort :)
[09:17] <fazfactor> hello
[09:17] <fazfactor> accessing via college
[09:17] <fazfactor> life SUCKS
[09:17] <fazfactor> i hope you get the message
[09:17] <fazfactor> :D
[09:17] <Aqewq> why is my dhclient is getting up with wrong information? for example, IP is 169.254.6.193, when my router is configured for give "192.168.1.20"
[09:19] <gr33n7007h> 169 address are auto-config address and are not routable
[09:21] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: try puts your interface down, restart networking services, interface back up then retry
[09:22] <gr33n7007h> also try rebooting the router if the above mentioned fails
[09:23] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, what is "autoconfig"? i.e. dhclient isnt working?
[09:23] <ChrisDruif> Hello everyone, Iḿ looking for a parental control that can manage time in ubuntu 14.10
[09:24] <ChrisDruif> timekpr and gnome nanny both have no build for 14.10
[09:24] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, all worked before I removed NetworkManager and do "dhclient -r"...
[09:30] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: How are you authenticating?
[09:31] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, auth to where?
[09:32] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: Ignore you are using eth0?
[09:35] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: are you using ethernet?
[09:35] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, yep, the name of interface is "eth0"
[09:36] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: have you modified anything in the router cp?
[09:37] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, router is configured right :)
[09:38] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: and you've remove network manager is this right?
[09:39] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, there is something with dhcp client or similar settings in Ubuntu
[09:39] <Aqewq> gr33n7007h, I found this right, since it's a server
[09:40] <gr33n7007h> Aqewq: ip link show eth0 and paste it here it's one line
[09:44] <pgunnars> so I realised there was a chinese ubuntu I could log into, how do I identify another linux filesystem within ubuntu?
[09:45] <pgunnars> need to find the filesystem of the fubared ubuntu
[09:45] <White_Cat> I am trying to interprete ls output
[09:45] <White_Cat> drwxr-xr-x 2 custom_user root 4096 Feb 18 20:33 opt/
[09:46] <White_Cat> what is root doing there after I used chown?
[09:46] <rosco_y> I followed the instructions on https://www.liberiangeek.net/2015/01/install-configure-samba-ubuntu-14-10/.  That seemed to go ok.  I can see my Linux box in my windows file explorer, but when I try to open it,  I get "Network Error--Windows cannot access \\LINUXBOX."  Any ideas?
[09:47] <rosco_y> do I have to install samba on Windows too?
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> rosco_y: shouldn't have to
[09:48] <rosco_y> aeon-ldt, thanks, I didn't think so--it seems like Windows should already know the Windows protocols :)
[09:48] <rosco_y> Networking has always been a serious mystery to me
[09:51] <rosco_y> I can see my Linux-machine-name when I click on the "Network" node in my Windows File Explorer", but then it continues by complaining that "Windows can't find" it.
[09:51] <aeon-ltd> rosco_y: this is a guess, but in windows there is an option to not use homegroup for sharing and use username and password instead, maybe you could try that
[09:51] <nef0> hi
[09:52] <nef0> can someone help me with my .inputrc?
[09:52] <rosco_y> aeon-ltd--Thanks very much, that sounds like a very reasonable guess to me....
[09:53] <rosco_y> hi nef0....lots of great people here, hang around :)
[09:53] <k1l> White_Cat: what chown command did you use?
[09:53] <nef0> so i'm trying to assign a command in bash to the windows key
[09:54] <nef0> just tried a random command but it doesn't seem to react
[09:54] <nef0>  "\x85-m": "ls -a1 | grep rc\n"
[09:54] <nef0> what am i doing wrong?
[09:55] <White_Cat> sudo chown custom_user /opt/
[09:55] <White_Cat> the folder is empty
[09:55] <lops> nef0, don't parse ls http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
[09:56] <k1l> White_Cat: you only changed the owner. not the group. so the group stays like it was
[09:56] <White_Cat> I want to rsync files and directories from a different server to this directory
[09:56] <White_Cat> oh?
[09:56] <k1l> White_Cat: use chown user:user  or use chgrp
[09:56] <White_Cat> ah
[09:57] <nef0> thanks, i'll definitely read that
[09:57] <blb3383> hi, how do I tether my android phone on ubuntu? Usb tethering stays greyed out on the phone and networkmanager doesn't offer any ethernet iface based on usb0 device
[09:57] <nef0> but the windows-m stilll doesn't react
[09:57] <White_Cat> I still get permission denied with rsync
[10:02] <k1l> White_Cat: what user does the rsync process use?
[10:03] <White_Cat> hmm?
[10:04] <White_Cat> k1l how can I determine that
[10:04] <White_Cat> I am just using the command from my custom user
[10:05] <White_Cat> should it not be from that custom user?
[10:05] <White_Cat> wait it coppied some files, just not all
[10:06] <k1l> White_Cat: ok. and where are you copying to exactly?
[10:06] <k1l> so its a read permissions issue?
[10:06] <lops> FYI there is no such thing as "custom user", users are just numbers (uid) from linux's point of view
[10:06] <White_Cat> yeah
[10:06] <White_Cat> it seemingly copied fine with sudo
[10:06] <White_Cat> ssh isnt working though
[10:06] <White_Cat> which is odd
[10:13] <hillary> how can upgrade from ubuntu 12.10 studio to 14.04.2 LTS
[10:13] <arcsky> Hi all, question 1. when i added something in /etc/network/interfaces how do i apply it? 2. do i still add dns in resolv.conf or ?
[10:14] <k1l> hillary: 12.10 is long dead. you need to upgrade to 13.04 then 13.10 and then 14.04. you might be faster with reinstalling a 14.04
[10:15] <backbox> salve
[10:15] <hillary> k1l ok thanks let me download the 14.04.2 LTS
[10:21] <White_Cat> k1l mind that I can ssh to the remote server without a password
[10:21] <White_Cat> but with rsync it always ask for the password of the rmeote user
[10:22] <White_Cat> the command I use is rsync -e ssh -avzp /opt/ 192.168.1.176:/opt/
[10:22] <k1l> erm, do you use sshkeys to login on ssh? or what is "without password"?
[10:22] <White_Cat> yeah
[10:22] <White_Cat> I have ssh keys so it doesnt ask for a password if I do an ssh conneciton
[10:22] <White_Cat> while rsync asks for a password
[10:22] <k1l> make it a user@ip
[10:23] <White_Cat> I tried that too
[10:23] <White_Cat> same problem
[10:24] <White_Cat> remote directory has drwxr-xr-x permissions
[10:24] <White_Cat> and is owned by my custemUser:custemUser
[10:25] <hillary> i ask again is it possible to upgrade from altimate edition 3.6 to a recent version?
[10:25] <k1l> White_Cat: you copy from your pc to the remote pc in that order.
[10:27] <hillary> k1l: advice. can i use the ultimate 3.6 version or i download the 14.04.2 LTS version
[10:27] <k1l> hillary: if you chose the fancy ultimate stuff you need to ask them for support.
[10:28] <geirha> White_Cat: -e 'ssh -i ~/.ssh/the_key'
[10:29] <hillary> k1l: ok so it is not supported by ubuntu eah
[10:29] <geirha> or make an ssh alias
[10:29] <k1l> hillary: yes
[10:29] <hillary> geirha: thanks iam downloading the 14.04.2 LTS now
[10:30] <White_Cat> the_key is just id_rsa.pub
[10:30] <geirha> hillary: Sorry, was talking to White_Cat
[10:30] <hillary> Sorry the message for k1l not geirha
[10:30] <geirha> :)
[10:30] <White_Cat> it still asks for password
[10:30] <White_Cat> it doesnt give an error
[10:31] <geirha> White_Cat: No, the secret key, not the public key.  id_rsa
[10:31] <k1l> White_Cat: is it that user you use that can ssh with the ssh key? it sounds like you mix a lot of stuff there
[10:31] <White_Cat> no impact
[10:31] <White_Cat> still asks for a password
[10:31] <hillary> k1l I do a lot of programming stuff and software development so i better use  14.04.2 LTS eah
[10:32] <sorenode> Hi I wud like to share a file on cloud using command-line - that is I want the upload to happen and get the shared url all thru CLI.
[10:32] <k1l> hillary: if you install 14.10 you need to upgrade every 6months. so since we know you dont like that since you still run 12.10 that is dead a long time now, better stay on 14.04 that is LTS with 5 years support
[10:32] <sorenode> my dropbox acc is new, so there is no pub. folder enabled
[10:33] <hillary> k1l thank you very much
[10:34] <rnat> sorenode:  have you tried google cloud
[10:34] <sorenode> no
[10:34] <sorenode> lemme check
[10:35] <rnat> sorenode:  it provides command line utils
[10:35] <sorenode> thanks rnat
[10:36] <sorenode> rejit, is this entirely free?
[10:36] <sorenode> if I stay freetrial
[10:36] <rejit> sorenode:  free as in?
[10:36] <sorenode> free beer
[10:36] <sorenode> oh its not
[10:36] <sorenode> :P
[10:37] <rejit> sorenode:  its not  and you wont find any.
[10:51] <platzhirsch> Are their any good looking ToDo list widgets for Ubuntu?
[10:59] <Guest73969> hello to every one..i need help please
[10:59] <Guest73969> someone is connected to help me?
[11:00] <nextech_> Hello everyone
[11:01] <nextech_> Peachtree can run in ubuntu OS?
[11:01] <k1l_> just ask Guest73969
[11:02] <L0gi_234> TypeError: unbound method lower() must be called with Identifier instance as first argument (got unicode instance instead) (file "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/willie/modules/chanlogs.py", line 76, in get_fpath)
[11:02] <nextech_> Anyone can help me please
[11:02] <L0gi_234> TypeError: unbound method lower() must be called with Identifier instance as first argument (got unicode instance instead) (file "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/willie/modules/chanlogs.py", line 76, in get_fpath)
[11:02] <Guest73969> i'm trying to install from a live usb ubuntu on a hard disk maxtor(connectet to pc trought usb) but during the installation it show thi message "fsyncing/closing/dev/sdb remote i/o error" what can i do??help mee please
[11:02] <L0gi_234> TypeError: unbound method lower() must be called with Identifier instance as first argument (got unicode instance instead) (file "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/willie/modules/chanlogs.py", line 76, in get_fpath)
[11:03] <lops> Guest73969, input-output communication to the device is failing. Presumably hardware issue a bad cable or smth
[11:03] <L0gi_234> TypeError: unbound method lower() must be called with Identifier instance as first argument (got unicode instance instead) (file "/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/willie/modules/chanlogs.py", line 76, in get_fpath)
[11:03] <Guest73969> someone is connected?
[11:03] <Guest73969> hello
[11:05] <Guest73969> i'm trying to install from a live usb ubuntu on a hard disk maxtor(connectet to pc trought usb) but during the installation it show thi message "fsyncing/closing/dev/sdb remote i/o error" what can i do??help mee please
[11:05] <emsy2015> Hello, guys. I tried to fix my problem after this thread but I had an error at second step already.
[11:05] <emsy2015> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[11:06] <lops> emsy2015, exact error mesage is?
[11:06] <emsy2015> After sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev it says mount point does not exist
[11:06] <emsy2015> even though I just mounted it
[11:06] <emsy2015> with sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[11:06] <lops> emsy2015, please give us the list of directories that you see under /mnt
[11:07] <lops> just to make sure that it is really the ubuntu
[11:07] <Guest73969> someone can help me too? :(
[11:07] <lops> Guest73969, you were answered above
[11:08] <Guest73969> oh sorry i had no seen
[11:08] <emsy2015> lops, I'm sorry for dumb question but how can I list directories? New to ubuntu
[11:08] <lops> emsy2015, open in file manager
[11:09] <Guest73969> i tried in windows to format and write files in the hard disk and it work...but durin the installation it give me problems...can i do something?
[11:10] <emsy2015> lops, grub
[11:11] <lops> emsy2015, then you have mounted the boot partition, not ubuntu
[11:11] <emsy2015> lops, I guess so
[11:11] <emsy2015> my ubuntu is encrypted though
[11:12] <lops> then you have to decrypt it first. otherwise anyone could mount it jst like you are trying now.
[11:12] <emsy2015> lops, almost fixed this problem yesterday with some guy from irc but then my pc crashed, have to do this over again
[11:12] <lops> i can't help with that, sorry - no experience in encryption
[11:12] <k1l_> emsy2015: we had this issue nearly solved yesterday. what happend?
[11:12] <emsy2015> k1l_, my pc crashed
[11:13] <emsy2015> k1l, after the first step in tutorial I wrote in terminal my pc just froze
[11:13] <emsy2015> had to reboot
[11:13] <emsy2015> lops, thank you for your help mate :)
[11:14] <hay207> hi
[11:14] <k1l_> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/01/%23ubuntu.html  here is the log from yesterday. read carefully and think about what commands you use. dont just copy and paste it since you made some mistakes yesterday
[11:14] <L0gi_234> [ /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/01/#ubuntu.txt ] - irclogs.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <emsy2015> lops, btw are you from Latvia? in Latvia your nickname means cow, lol
[11:15] <emsy2015> k1l_, thanks!
[11:15] <lops> well in russian yours means master of ceremonies... are you from russia
[11:17] <emsy2015> it doesn't lol. I know russian
[11:18] <emsy2015> k1l_, terminal can't understand my command " unmount "
[11:18] <k1l_> emsy2015: what did i say to not blindly run commands?
[11:18] <myarms> #login
[11:18] <geirha> it's umount, without the n
[11:18] <k1l_> emsy2015: its umount
[11:18] <emsy2015> haha, thank you!
[11:19] <emsy2015> yesterday I did that with n though
[11:19] <k1l_> emsy2015: your setup with encryption etc is very difficult. you are on the best way to ruin your data if you just run commands you dont know what they do or if they are made working your kind of setup
[11:19] <emsy2015> I'm doing step by step what we were doing yesterday
[11:19] <emsy2015> unmounting sdb1
[11:20] <emsy2015> encrypting my ubuntu
[11:21] <LyXTG> Hi
[11:21] <LyXTG> while creating new vm for ubuntu server in xen which is running on centos6 getting error
[11:21] <emsy2015> hmm, this time there's something different, k1l
[11:21] <LyXTG> ERROR    Couldn't find xen kernel for Ubuntu tree.
[11:21] <emsy2015> mount: can't find /dev/sdb5 in /etc/fstab
[11:22] <LyXTG> i have just downloaded ubuntu server lts version 14
[11:22] <LyXTG> can some one help on this issue
[11:23] <emsy2015> err never mind
[11:23] <emsy2015> everything's fine
[11:26] <hay207> hi guys
[11:26] <hay207> can i store large game data files in a different partition?
[11:27] <k1l_> you mean with steam?
[11:27] <hay207> maybe
[11:28] <k1l_> maybe yes :) for specific answers come back with specofoc questions :)
[11:28] <hay207> not steam
[11:28] <hay207> large games in synaptic
[11:29] <hay207> how to do so? i havent installed ubuntu yet
[11:31] <emsy2015> k1l_: ahh I love you man. :) Installing the kernel already
[11:32] <zer0h> Hello
[11:32] <zer0h> Could somebody help fixing my wifi drivers
[11:32] <onko> I also need help with other thing, but start asking you xd
[11:33] <burkmat> zer0h: Maybe. What hardware are you using?
[11:34] <k1l_> hay207: what large games are we talking about and what partitoin should they go to?
[11:34] <hay207> ufoai for example
[11:35] <hay207> idk another ext3 partition
[11:35] <emsy2015> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10500520/
[11:35] <L0gi_234> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - paste.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <k1l_> hay207: ufoai is not in the repos
[11:37] <k1l_> hay207: and the standard FS for ubuntu is ext4 :)
[11:37] <hay207> i will add the ufoai to repos
[11:38] <lops> hay207, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/446165 -- in general you can't
[11:39] <lops> hay207, but you can install another stripped-down ubuntu in the partition and install the game there, then run it via chroot
[11:39] <emsy2015> k1l_: can you please check if I did anything wrong there? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10500539/
[11:39] <onko> I would like to set up a dns cache to improve my speed. Network-manager is already working with dnsmasq, and I have created a file in /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d/ with "cache-size=10000" and now is working. The problem is dnsmasq keep those dns resolves in RAM, and after reboot I loose every resolve...Someone know something about that? (sorry for my english)
[11:40] <k1l_> emsy2015: you really need to read what you are doing and stop if you get errors.
[11:41] <emsy2015> didn't see any error
[11:41] <emsy2015> only at the very last step
[11:41] <k1l_> emsy2015: see line 80. you did not chroot into that installed system. there was an error because you did copy paste something wrong there in fron of the command
[11:42] <emsy2015> yes, my fault
[11:42] <emsy2015> didn't see that error
[11:42] <k1l_> emsy2015: the stuff between # and sudo. so from that on you did not work with your installed ubuntu. so unmount all and start over again from the beginning
[11:43] <emsy2015> yes, sir
[11:45] <emsy2015> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu_root /mnt mount: only root can do that
[11:45] <emsy2015> should I chroot already here?
[11:45] <k1l_> use sudo
[11:45] <emsy2015> sudo su ?
[11:45] <k1l_> sudo su is bad on ubuntu.
[11:45] <lops> and anyway it is not sudo su, rather sudo su -l
[11:46] <k1l_> if you want a root shell and you know what you are doing and the commands use sudo -i.
[11:48] <emsy2015> ok, let's see
[11:51] <Alexo_> how do i mount a flash drive ?
[11:53] <fjalvarez> hello there. I'm trying to deal how to use a certificate for a subdomain that it is pointing in a different server. thanks
[11:55] <ofcan> to remove the directory with git repository, I just do rm -r and it will all be wiped clean?
[11:55] <zer0h> burkmat, you there?
[11:55] <mysupper> hello~
[11:56] <zer0h> burkmat, Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter
[11:56] <zer0h> Can somebody help me with resolving my wifi issue
[11:57] <mysupper> I wonder what word processor would satisfy me in Ubuntu package. Any suggestions except abiword ,openoffice, wps office , wine ?
[11:59] <emsy2015> k1l_: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[11:59] <k1l_> Alexo_: running a desktop? then just put it in and let gvfs do its magic.
[11:59] <emsy2015> k1l_: after installing kernels
[12:00] <k1l_> emsy2015: please put all output into a pastebin. missing context is difficult there
[12:00] <emsy2015> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10500742/
[12:01] <k1l_> emsy2015: apt-get update
[12:01] <elsewho> hi
[12:02] <elsewho> is ubuntu touch a real native linux. can i run background services, have full acess to hardware and gcc?
[12:02] <emsy2015> thank you
[12:02] <k1l_> elsewho: better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[12:02] <elsewho> k1l_, thanks :D
[12:03] <k1l_> emsy2015: better install "linux-generic" too, to get the headers installed automatically
[12:05] <andersbs> I see libsemanage1 is installed in trusty and references to pam_selinux.so in /etc/pam.d but do those references actually do anything on a default installed trusty system?
[12:06] <xubuntu> hi
[12:06] <jpds> andersbs: Yeah, there are no policys for Ubuntu.
[12:07] <arcsky> Hi all, question 1. when i added something in /etc/network/interfaces how do i apply it? 2. do i still add dns in resolv.conf or ?
[12:07] <jpds> arcsky: Depends on what you added.
[12:07] <andersbs> jpds: so basically it's there in case someone wants to have a go at it but by default it does nothing?
[12:07] <jpds> andersbs: By default, it's not supported.
[12:07] <zer0h> hey, anybody?
[12:07] <White_Cat> Any way to make ubuntu ssh connections not use a password?
[12:07] <zer0h>  I cant seem to find wifi networks
[12:08] <zer0h> though my wifi card is detected
[12:08] <jpds> White_Cat: Use SSH keys.
[12:08] <andersbs> alright. guess it's pointless of me to remove those references then since they do nothing
[12:08] <White_Cat> I have the same ssh key in the .shh directory and it makes no difference whatsoever
[12:08] <White_Cat> it still insists on asking for a password
[12:08] <EriC^> White_Cat, you have to use /etc/ssh or something
[12:08] <White_Cat> jpds yeah, thats what I am trying to do an failing
[12:08] <jpds> White_Cat: How did you configure the SSH key on the target host?
[12:08] <White_Cat> oh hello EriC^ :)
[12:08] <EriC^> hello :)
[12:09] <White_Cat> I copy pasted the .shh key on the .shh directory on both computers
[12:09] <jpds> White_Cat: .ssh*
[12:09] <k1l_> White_Cat: its ssh not shh
[12:09] <White_Cat> yeah thats what I mean :)
[12:09] <burkmat> White_Cat: On the receiving node, the file needs to be .ssh/authorized_keys or .ssh/authorized_keys2
[12:09] <White_Cat> oh it needs that exact name?
[12:09] <k1l_> White_Cat:  and that is not the right way how you do it.
[12:09] <jpds> White_Cat: You're suppose to put it into: .ssh/authorized_keys on the other end.
[12:09] <White_Cat> ah!
[12:10] <White_Cat> I had it called id_rsa
[12:10] <jpds> White_Cat: That's your private key.
[12:10] <k1l_> white please read that to get to know what you do there at all: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[12:10] <ermoreno> HOLA CHORVOS
[12:10] <ermoreno> QUE HACEIOS TENGO UN PLAN PREPARADO
[12:10] <ermoreno> SE LLAMA...
[12:10] <ermoreno> CHUPADME EL BORNE
[12:10] <jpds> White_Cat: Do NOT copy that one around.
[12:10] <White_Cat> I shouldnt?
[12:10] <White_Cat> hmm
[12:11] <White_Cat> just the public key?
[12:11] <jpds> White_Cat: Yes.
[12:11] <jpds> White_Cat: It's called *private* key for a reason.
[12:11] <White_Cat> so just authorized_keys.pub
[12:11] <White_Cat> well yes but the two servers would need to connect to each other :p
[12:11] <jpds> White_Cat: What are you trying to accomplish?
[12:12] <k1l_> White_Cat: please read the help page i mentioned. you mix a lot of stuff there.
[12:12] <White_Cat> all I want to acomplish is getting passwordless connections from one server to the other
[12:12] <jpds> White_Cat: What for?
[12:12] <k1l_> give it a 10minutes read and know what you do and safe 3 more hours of copying the wrong stuff between pcs
[12:14] <White_Cat> jpds seeveral tasks
[12:14] <White_Cat> one is for barman
[12:14] <White_Cat> one is for rsync
[12:14] <White_Cat> one is for rsnapshot
[12:14] <White_Cat> no not rsnapshot
[12:15] <k1l_> White_Cat: please invest the time and read the page linked you. you miss basic knowledge and need to learn that.
[12:17] <White_Cat> k1l_ thats all I have been doing for the past 1.5 weeks
[12:17] <White_Cat> sorry I am just frustrated
[12:19] <k1l_> White_Cat: read that page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys it explaines what it is and how to setup and transfer the keys
[12:21] <White_Cat> k1l_ the keys are in both locations and I am not getting a permission denied
[12:23] <White_Cat> EriC^ I pmed you :)
[12:24] <germanstudent> How do I make changes in /etc/sysctl.conf permanent? (IPv6 in this case) Seems to get overwritten periodically (14.04)
[12:24] <jpds> germanstudent: I'd suggest adding them as a subfile in /etc/sysctl.d/ instead.
[12:25] <popey> White_Cat: have you put the key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ? Have you set the permissions of ~/.ssh to 0700 and the permission on ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to 0600 ?
[12:25] <arcsky> jpds: i added iface eth1 ip netmask and gw
[12:25] <jpds> arcsky: So, ifup eth1 ?
[12:26] <germanstudent> jpds, thank you!
[12:26] <arcsky> jpds: iface eth0 inet static
[12:26] <White_Cat> is authorized_keys a directory or a file?
[12:26] <popey> White_Cat: its a file
[12:26] <White_Cat> okay
[12:26] <popey> White_Cat: which is detailed on the page you were linked to
[12:27] <White_Cat> yes
[12:27] <White_Cat> it is a copy of my public key
[12:27] <popey> have you set the permissions correctly?
[12:28] <White_Cat> yes
[12:28] <popey> White_Cat: when you ssh in from the other machine, do "ssh -vvv <hostname>" and then examine the output carefully. -vvv will produce a lot of output, which you could pastebin for us to help with
[12:29] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/CaLK7zVi
[12:30] <jpds> White_Cat: That's not the output of ssh -vvv
[12:31] <White_Cat> debug3: Could not load "/home/custom_user/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key
[12:31] <White_Cat> no it isnt
[12:31] <White_Cat> that was the permissions I had
[12:31] <arcsky> jpds: http://pastebin.com/72YUhDmR
[12:31] <White_Cat> do you want me to pastebin the entire -vvv?
[12:31] <White_Cat> sure
[12:31] <jpds> White_Cat: And you seem to have copied your private key (id_rsa) to authorized_keys.
[12:31] <popey> yeah
[12:31] <jpds> White_Cat: You're suppose to copy the public key: id_rsa.pub.
[12:32] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/6kGtaxrJ
[12:33] <White_Cat> I copied the public key
[12:33] <burkmat> White_Cat: The authorized_keys file is the same size as the id_rsa file, not the id_rsa.pub file.
[12:33] <arcsky> jpds: will it come back after reboot???
[12:34] <White_Cat> gah
[12:34] <White_Cat> you are absolutely right
[12:34] <White_Cat> I was splitting hair over nothing?
[12:34] <White_Cat> :(
[12:35] <jpds> White_Cat: As we said, you're missing some basic knowledge, read the page.
[12:35] <zer0h> why does my network manager disable me from searching and connecting to wifi?
[12:35] <jpds> arcsky: Well, you have two gateways set.
[12:36] <jpds> arcsky: That could get interesting.
[12:38] <jpds> White_Cat: And do not strart copying private keys between different machines.
[12:41] <zer0h> hello
[12:41] <zer0h> can somebody help me out please?
[12:42] <zer0h> I am in quite a big trouble here
[12:42] <ikonia> zer0h: hello there, if you ask your ubuntu question, people will help if they can
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !hello | zer0h
[12:42] <jpds> He asked earlier on about wifi problems with atheros.
[12:43] <ikonia> I didn't see it, never mind,
[12:43] <ikonia> I'm sure someone will help if they can
[12:43] <zer0h> ikonia, had asked earlier before, here I am repeating again. My LAN connection works but my network manager does not allow to search for wifi connection
[12:44] <zer0h> it is kind of like disabled
[12:44] <zer0h> though my card is being detected
[12:44] <germanstudent> What do you guys use to note and efficiently access commands and code snippets, except your brain? :) I use workflowy, but there are sure better tools for this
[12:44] <jpds> germanstudent: Access commands and code snippets?
[12:44] <jpds> zer0h: Check: rfkill list
[12:44] <k1l_> zer0h: "rfkill list" please into a pastebin
[12:45] <zer0h> ok hold on
[12:45] <tnkhanh> germanstudent: what u mean by better tools?
[12:45] <OpenTokix> germanstudent: Looks like normal todolists?
[12:45] <arcsky> jpds: you have tons of gw's
[12:45] <arcsky> could*
[12:46] <jpds> arcsky: But only one default gateway.
[12:46] <tnkhanh> germanstudent: oh I see
[12:46] <arcsky> u can have many det. gw's
[12:46] <germanstudent> jpds, tnkhanh, OpenTokix  that is not directly ubuntu related. Sometimes I google for solutions to specific problems, that I can't remember for month. When I found the best solution, I write down what worked and which commands I used. Are there good tools for this?
[12:47] <zer0h> http://pastebin.com/cEwhBr77
[12:47] <zer0h> jpds
[12:47] <zer0h> kill
[12:47] <zer0h> kil_
[12:47] <tnkhanh> germanstudent: I use pen and papers. Sometimes I dont rely too much on technology
[12:47] <jpds> germanstudent: Wikis, note pads, personally I put my system configs into something like Puppet.
[12:48] <OpenTokix> jpds: germanstudent is +q from some reason, and can't talk.
[12:48] <tnkhanh> if it's commands or solution to remember, I copy to a file
[12:49] <jpds> w/ii Drone`
[12:49] <germanstudent> Thank you! I don't know why I was muted
[12:50] <hateball> Perhaps adressing many nicks at once, spam-protection
[12:50] <germanstudent> hateball, ah, okay
[12:50] <zer0h> jpds, kil_, did you see my pastebin?
[12:51] <jpds> zer0h: Yeah, not sure what's wrong there.
[12:52] <k1l_> zer0h: yes, not blocked and the device is found. so do you have something in the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:52] <zer0h> jpds, actually it was working fine. I upgraded from 12 to 14. What I recently did was change my wifi settings...changed my network id and stuff and now it is like this
[12:52] <zer0h> need to check ki_, one thing I did was that I installed cinnamon and the settings were in gnome earlier when I had set up the connection
[12:53] <zer0h>  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[12:53] <zer0h> auto lo
[12:53] <zer0h> iface lo inet loopback
[12:54] <k1l_> ok, so please pastebin the output of "dmesg" to see if there is some hardware/driver issue
[12:55] <k1l_> but so far it looks good. and it could be some missmatch of networkmanagers and old configs from gnome and cinnamon
[12:56] <k1l_> zer0h: i will be afk for some time now. so just ask the channel with details again and others can see if they can help
[12:56] <zer0h> ok kil_
[12:56] <zer0h> can you give some pointers
[12:57] <jpds> zer0h: Pastebin 'dmesg' for us.
[12:59] <gr33n7007h> anyone using rtorrent?
[13:00] <Argafal> i am trying to compile a latex document with \usepackage{ebgaramond}, but ebgaramond.sty is not installed. I cannot find which ubuntu package contains ebgaramond. Any hints?
[13:01] <Argafal> It's 12.04 LTS, btw.
[13:02] <zer0h> jpds, http://pastebin.com/NARaPmsV
[13:02] <lops> germanstudent, cherrytree
[13:02] <jpds> arcsky: Have you checked packages.ubuntu.com ?
[13:03] <germanstudent> lops, thx, will look into it
[13:06] <jpds> arcsky: Sorry, that last was for Argafal.
[13:06] <lops> germanstudent, or plain libreoffice base + some sql
[13:10] <Argafal> jpds: I did.
[13:10] <MaxFrames> hello
[13:11] <MaxFrames> to connect to an l2tp/ipsec vpn from a (l)ubuntu client, what do I need to install?
[13:13] <germanstudent> lops, wow, cherrytree looks awesome! code highlighting and everything. It would be perfect if it had some kind of cloud support, or some interface for mobile and mac.
[13:31] <kevinde> I mounted a volume with sudo mount -o bind /dev/us1204s/root /mnt/fcroot -o rw,user how can I chroot this,
[13:34] <kevinde> when i use sud chroot /mnt/fcroot /bin/bash it says permission denied
[13:40] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[13:46] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! Someone knows dovecot on Ubuntu well?
[13:47] <jpds> Emmanuel_Chanel: Ask what you need, but probably better in #ubuntu-server.
[13:47] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I want to use both system accounts and virtual mail box on my mail server although I won't use any on the global net.
[13:47] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok.
[13:48] <gspot12> Anyone tried new Ubuntu?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !vivid | gspot12,
[13:50] <thevishy> I installed some softwares from this repo http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-mac-os-x-theme-on-ubuntu-1210.html , mostly theme stuff . is it safe ?
[13:50] <thevishy> I am doing this in my official machine, I wanted to make sure that I don't run into a security problem
[13:50] <cfhowlett> thevishy, any outside of official ubuntu repos should be approached with caution
[13:50] <thevishy> right cfhowlett
[13:51] <thevishy> i sudo apt-get removed them - is that fine ? i also did a scan with clamav
[13:52] <cfhowlett> thevishy, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:52] <thevishy> that should be fine ? or do I reinstall my OS
[13:52] <cfhowlett> thevishy, I see no reason to reinstall
[13:53] <thevishy> right then I would continue , in any case my work stuff is in a lxc (centos)
[13:53] <sachit> hi guys i am new to ubuntu. when i type in cmd apt-get update it will show 404 not found. whats the reason for that
[13:54] <lops> sachit, what ubuntu version?
[13:54] <sachit> 14.10
[13:55] <cfhowlett> sachit, point to a different mirror
[13:57] <sachit> ok, and in mozilla firefox youtube videos play only in 360p. i want to play in 480p. anything we can do for it
[13:57] <germanstudent> test
[13:57] <germanstudent> x /etc/sysctl.d/ entry won't process at boot, but works with "sudo sysctl --system" after boot. Do I have to announce the new sysctl.d config somewhere?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !test | germanstudent,
[13:59] <NeitroN> hi all
[14:01] <sachit> guys i have downloaded some stuff through cmd using wget command. but i cant find it
[14:01] <sachit> where it is located
[14:01] <Pici> sachit: typically in the same place where you ran the command... unless you specified elsewhere.
[14:01] <cfhowlett> sachit, probably in your /home
[14:03] <sachit> ok but i cant find it. i will download again and check
[14:03] <sachit> thanks for the help
[14:04] <k1l_> sachit: type "pwd" to see what folder you are in there
[14:05] <gshmu> hello, my PC (E3-1231 V3 and asus B85-plus  Ubuntu 14.04 linux-image-3.16.0-31) shutdown and suspend will be reboots (after shutdown 3s). Can I build my kernel fix this? I change the CPU to Xeon at `make menuconfig`   but when i using the new kernel, tty1 login ok but tty7 can't login
[14:06] <gshmu> anyone can help me to fix it
[14:23] <maciej> 1
[14:25] <maciej> how to install ssh ??
[14:25] <ikonia> install the package openssh-server
[14:25] <ikonia> or openssh-client
[14:25] <ikonia> you can find them in the package manager
[14:25] <ikonia> I actually thought clients where installed by default hese days
[14:25] <ikonia> these
[14:26] <OpenTokix> ikonia: ssh client is installed, server not by default on desktop. - apt-get install ssh
[14:26] <k1l_> the client is standard in ubuntu
[14:26] <ikonia> the package is openssh-server
[14:27] <Pici> ikonia: 'ssh' is a metapackage that includes the server and client
[14:27] <ikonia> I thought it was just client+sharedlibs
[14:27] <ikonia> (ssh)
[14:27] <Pici> "This metapackage is a convenient way to install both the OpenSSH client and the OpenSSH server." Depends: openssh-client (>= 1:6.6p1-2ubuntu1), openssh-server (>= 1:6.6p1-2ubuntu1)
[14:28] <ikonia> nice
[14:29] <pp__> Hi there
[14:34] <maciej> "E: Package 'openssh-server' has no installation candidate" what that it means??
[14:34] <OpenTokix> maciej: Sounds like you have messed up your apt-sources
[14:34] <OpenTokix> maciej: apt-get can't find the debfile
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:36] <k1l_> maciej: please pastebin a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:36] <maciej> deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty main restricted universe multiverse
[14:36] <maciej> deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty main restricted universe multiverse
[14:36] <maciej> deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[14:36] <maciej> deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[14:36] <maciej> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[14:36] <maciej> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !natty
[14:37] <k1l_> !paste | maciej
[14:37] <cfhowlett> end of life ... WAY paste EOL
[14:37] <k1l_> maciej: and 11.04 is way end of life. you are better of with going to reinstall 14.04.2. you could upgrade to 11.10 and then 12.04 (and then upgrade to 14.04) but that will take more time
[14:39] <mithran> i cannot read malayalam i ubuntu firefox ?
[14:39] <mithran> malayalam font is not taken in ubuntu firefox ?
[14:40] <bazhang> ttf-malayalam-fonts <----  mithran
[14:41] <mithran> bazhang: ??? i have meera font in my system
[14:42] <mithran> bazhang: how to install ttf malayalama fonts to my systm through terminal
[14:42] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install packagename   mithran
[14:43] <mithran> bazhang: i don't know the exact package name !!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[14:43] <bazhang> ttf-malayalam-fonts  <--- mithran
[14:44] <bazhang> apt-cache search malay   <--- mithran to find
[14:44] <mithran> bazhang: ok> sudo apt-get install ttf-malayalam-fonts
[14:49] <maciej> thanks
[14:50] <k1l_> maciej: you really need to upgrade or reinstall. your system doesnt get security updates since 2012.
[14:51] <yoq> S.a
[14:53] <josu_> hi
[14:53] <daniel_> hola a todos
[14:54] <yoq> seLam arkadaþlar
[14:54] <yoq> hii
[14:54] <yoq> türk varmý ?
[14:54] <daniel_> soy nuevo en ubuntu
[14:54] <Pici> !tr
[14:54] <k1l_> !tr | yoq
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !es
[14:54] <kls8426> HI
[14:54] <yoq> ubottu :(
[14:54] <yoq> I no ingilizce
[14:54] <yoq> ý em Türkiþ
[14:54] <yoq> türkiþ Chat !
[14:54] <yoq> pls
[14:54] <yoq> :D
[14:55] <k1l_> yoq: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[14:55] <yoq> k1l_ Teþekkür Ederim kardeþim.
[14:55] <yoq> Thenk you.
[14:59] <White_Cat_> I am trying to setup three lxc instances on the same server and I want each lxc instance to recieve an ip from the physical router dhcp through virtual ethernet
[15:00] <White_Cat_> any suggestions how I can achieve this?
[15:00] <akiva-thinkpad> how can I delete all my chroots? should I just sudo rm -r them?
[15:00]  * DanGeRGhosT S.a
[15:00]  * DanGeRGhosT :d
[15:00] <k1l_> DanGeRGhosT: please stop that.
[15:01] <DanGeRGhosT> aaa
[15:01] <DanGeRGhosT> oke
[15:01] <DanGeRGhosT> :(
[15:02] <maciej> thanks again and bye
[15:03] <pgunnars> soo, cuda install fubared my ubuntu, any1 have solutions besides the top google ones of uninstalling cuda and reinstalling nvidia/xorg?
[15:05] <moza> DanGeRGhosT : asv messages from someone unknown are not really welcome when the only thing in common is to be on this channel.
[15:05] <moza> pgunnars : what do you mean by "fubared"?
[15:06] <pgunnars> wont load beyond login screen, network manager is out
[15:07] <moza> pgunnars : you could try to troubleshoot with one of the alternative command-line tty if it's a graphics problem?
[15:08] <moza> Ctrl+alt+F7 is the Graphical User Interface, but Ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 etc. let you login via command line normally.
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[15:08] <lucido> my HDMI monitor is not detected in display settings, how can I diagnose this?
[15:09] <CoreSaint> really?
[15:09] <daftykins> if you're staring at it to use your computer, i wouldn't worry...
[15:10] <pgunnars> moza: i can login through the command line, ive used it to uninstall cuda/nvidia/xorg server and reinstall everything
[15:10] <pgunnars> not sure how to debug it myself?
[15:11] <moza> pgunnars : I guess you could go ask cuda groups more specifically. I have only heard of nvidia and xorg myself.
[15:11] <ppf> pgunnars: what is in Xorg.log?
[15:12] <pgunnars> lemme check
[15:13] <ppf> i'm having some trouble with pulseaudio
[15:14] <ppf> i added a combined sink, which is supposed to output sound through both my speakers and headphones
[15:14] <ppf> when i boot up my system, it works for a while, and then just stops
[15:15] <ppf> stops as in, there is no more sound output on the combined sink (both spearks and headphones sink work fine)
[15:15] <ppf> it feels like, whenever the sink is being suspended on idle, it doesn't wake up when needed
[15:15] <chocho> pederast1
[15:16] <ppf> any ideas how to fix that?
[15:26] <qurve> I have a really dumb question: When you install nginx from apt on Ubuntu 14.04, what service manager (if any) does it get installed as?
[15:26] <qurve> I see the master/worker processes running but both service nginx status and /etc/init.d/nginx status return that it's not running.
[15:27] <illizian> hmm I was gonna say nginx qurve
[15:27] <OpenTokix> qurve: service nginx status * nginx is running
[15:27] <OpenTokix> qurve: try service nginx restart
[15:27] <OpenTokix> qurve: and then status again
[15:28] <qurve> The problem is that it *is* running, but service nginx status says it is not.
[15:28] <qurve> It's running, listening on the specified port, and responding to requests.
[15:28] <qurve> But my cookbook test fails because service nginx status returns an error code and says it's not running, which is why I'm confused.
[15:28] <illizian> qurve: it's meant to be under nginx - works here
[15:28] <illizian> $ sudo service nginx status
[15:28] <illizian>  * nginx is not running
[15:28] <illizian> ah I see
[15:28] <illizian> sorry
[15:29] <krabador> when a .desktop file properly created on /usr/share/applications, it's available on the dash?
[15:29] <qurve> I'm just confused what exactly started the process that's running and which service manager is responsible for it.
[15:29] <krabador> do tracker the job in real time?
[15:30] <White_Cat> okay
[15:30] <White_Cat> so i did a clean install of ubuntu server
[15:30] <White_Cat> and it will not boot
[15:30] <White_Cat> I get grub prompt
[15:30] <White_Cat> this server has EFI
[15:30] <White_Cat> and ubuntu installed with the efi partition
[15:30] <White_Cat> is it impostible to fix ubuntu with grub?
[15:31] <ikonia> it is totally possible
[15:31] <qurve> Additionally, if I `service nginx stop` and `/etc/init.d/nginx stop`, the process still runs. O_o
[15:31] <ikonia> grub2 and ubuntu fully support EFI setup
[15:31] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, not impossible.  I just wrestled with this yesterday.
[15:31] <qurve> Seems like something else is controlling it.
[15:32] <ikonia> it's well documented on the grub2 wiki page White_Cat
[15:32] <ikonia> check the ubuntu grub2 wiki page
[15:32] <pgunnars> ppf: theres like 5 logfiles
[15:32] <ikonia> it walks through the auto setup and any manual fixes
[15:32] <White_Cat> why would ubuntu setup itself be broken?
[15:32] <ppf> pgunnars: look at the youngest one
[15:32] <pgunnars> im assuming the oldest is most important,
[15:32] <pgunnars> why youngest
[15:32] <pgunnars> i just reinstalled it
[15:32] <ikonia> White_Cat: sometimes it gets the boot loader setup wrong
[15:32] <pgunnars> kk
[15:33] <ikonia> White_Cat: it's still a new technology for a lot of distros including ubuntu and it depends on the machine and human interaction on some cases
[15:33] <ikonia> thats why its worth reading the the ubuntu wiki on the grub2 pages
[15:33] <ikonia> goes into quite good detail
[15:34] <yart> Hello! Is there any way to prevent the hdd going in standby mode after a few seconds while on battery?
[15:34] <OldSam> hi, I have a problem with X11 and the graphics signal (with HDMI switch), I often get a blank screen without X11, which I can only fix by restarting the displaymanager... (using 14.04 LTS) - I have read a recommended way is to manually create/adapt a xorg.conf but I fail creating that: Using "X -configure" the auto-created file does not work at all (showing no display), though basically Ubuntu did recognize my display, just atm I am in the X11 environment. So...
[15:34] <OldSam>  is there a way to get the "current" settings in an xorg.conf ? Or other hints how I can fix such an issue?
[15:36] <pgunnars> ppf: http://pastie.org/9993792
[15:37] <White_Cat> I would like smoe more specific documentation
[15:37] <krabador> when a .desktop file properly created on /usr/share/applications, it's available on the dash?
[15:37] <krabador> do tracker the job in real time?
[15:37] <White_Cat> I mean I am not even sure what to look for
[15:38] <bazhang> !grub2 | White_Cat have a read
[15:38] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, you must set an efi_boot partition and send your bootloader to that target
[15:39] <bazhang> also #grub White_Cat
[15:42] <White_Cat> cfhowlett indeed and the efi partitoin was created by the clean setup
[15:42] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, and that's where you set your bootloader??
[15:43] <White_Cat> cfhowlett it should do that automatically right?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, mine tried to target /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 where efi_boot was set.  best to verify
[15:44] <White_Cat> cfhowlett i dont know the command to verify
[15:44] <White_Cat> I lack a live cd as well
[15:44] <White_Cat> while I am trying ot create one i would rather try to determine the problem with grub commands if I can
[15:44] <White_Cat> or maybe even fix
[15:44] <White_Cat> it shouldnt be something drastic
[15:44] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, reintstall grub should be suficient
[15:45] <White_Cat> impossible without livecd right?
[15:45] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, yep.  sorry.  good ubuntu users don't leave home without their ubuntu USB  :)
[15:45] <White_Cat> I didnt leave home without it
[15:46] <White_Cat> I just neglected to take it with me
[15:46] <White_Cat> :p
[15:46] <White_Cat> I just wish grub2 was able to self repair
[15:46] <Whitor> I wish all software was able to self repair
[15:46] <White_Cat> yes
[15:47] <White_Cat> with voice commands no less
[15:47] <ppf> pgunnars: looks good! what is your problem exactly?
[15:47] <White_Cat> and also make coffee
[15:47] <Whitor> and change diapers
[15:47] <White_Cat> no, I wouldnt want my computer to change dipers
[15:47] <pgunnars> desktop doesnt load on login
[15:47] <pgunnars> and network manager doesnt work
[15:47] <Whitor> pgunnars, why not?
[15:48] <pgunnars> installed cuda
[15:48] <ppf> pgunnars: your Xorg.log looks fine, though?
[15:49] <pgunnars> lemme just quickly restart to make sure its still not working
[15:49] <pgunnars> not sure what to say
[15:50] <iname> quit
[15:52] <uuhimhere> is ubuntu going with wayland ?
[15:53] <Siilwyn> uuhimhere, no. It's going to use Mir.
[15:54] <Siilwyn> Hi people, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, not running any special apps, sometimes the 'Log Out' option does not work, basically nothing happens when pressed. The only noticeable thing is that there is no text whatsoever in the top bar at the left. It does work after I use 'Lock' and login again. How can I troubleshoot this? Any logs that I can look into?
[15:54] <SchrodingersScat> Is there any good test to see why my files copied from thunar sometimes aren't the same size?  I do sync the folder with owncloud, and can test that later to see if it's specific to those folders.  xubuntu 14.10, ext4 from /home/$user/dir1 to /home/$user/dir2 and the dir2 file will be just shy of the full size.
[15:56] <ppf> SchrodingersScat: how do you check file size?
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> ppf: I was doing the copy again, and it would say for example "Replace 492.57MB file with same name file with size 527.2MB File?"
[15:58] <x90> SchrodingersScat it is not possibile if it is same file
[15:58] <x90> SchrodingersScat it is possibile for stream data files =)
[15:58] <x90> bbl
[15:59] <ppf> Depending on what your tool is doing there, might also be possible for sparse files
[15:59] <SchrodingersScat> x90: I can also test that, i do have a short alias that sha256sums the file, finds any files with the same name and sha256sums those to compare, but idk why they would be different sizes
[15:59] <x90> SchrodingersScat not possibile maybe your file system has problem
[15:59] <SchrodingersScat> oh, not possible
[15:59] <x90> some file systems using hash system
[16:00] <x90> bbl
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> k
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> ppf: sparse files? tell me more?
[16:00] <x90> SchrodingersScat if you have stream data file it is normal
[16:00] <OldSam> SchrodingersScat: try "file filename" to see what files you got (header etc.), you can compare this first
[16:01] <ppf> SchrodingersScat: a sparse file is a file with "holes" in it, i.e. larger chunks of 0s
[16:02] <ppf> the FS will not actually store those 0s, so the actual file size is smaller than the apparent size
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> they /are/ video files, but then on the second copy it normally corrects the 1/8 that seem to do this.
[16:09] <mysupper> hello
[16:09] <mysupper> I want to install antivirus program. any suggestions?
[16:10] <jmadero> mysupper: suggest not installing one ;)
[16:10] <jmadero> absolutely no need
[16:10] <mysupper> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ , searched a little bit but quite oldie.
[16:10] <mysupper> noway
[16:10] <mysupper> linux is not virus free.
[16:10] <jmadero> mysupper: I've been using linux for 10+ years
[16:10] <jmadero> I've gotten one rootkit by being a total idiot and installing crazy third party software
[16:10] <jpds> ninsei: I think you'll find that it is.
[16:10] <mysupper> hehe
[16:10] <jmadero> mysupper: best to just make sure your firewall is set up right
[16:10] <jmadero> and your passwords are strong
[16:11] <jpds> mysupper: You only need an antivirus on Linux if you're interacting with Windows computers.
[16:11] <jmadero> and even then...only "kind of"
[16:11] <delinquentme> so when I have a file named "bin" what does this denote / mean
[16:11] <st34lth> hello, just wondering, which of you use many monitors with your laptop. what kind of hardware works for ubuntu ?
[16:11] <delinquentme> it seem slike its a reserved word
[16:12] <jmadero> st34lth: what are you asking exactly - if we have mutli monitor setups...what kind of software are you asking about?
[16:12] <krabador> when a .desktop file properly created on /usr/share/applications, it's available on the dash?
[16:12] <krabador> do tracker the job in real time?
[16:12] <jmadero> st34lth: just use xrandr and you're set
[16:12] <mint_> delinquentme: there is no such thing as a "reserved filename" on linux
[16:13] <st34lth>  jmadero, "hardware"
[16:13] <jmadero> st34lth: ah - um....that list is quite long
[16:13] <st34lth> most laptops don't come with 2/3 monitor ports
[16:13] <jmadero> st34lth: if you have a specific hardware that you want to know about
[16:13] <jmadero> easier than asking "can you name everything that works"
[16:13] <st34lth> natively I have one hdmi, one mini display linl.
[16:13] <delinquentme> mint_, I think it means 'binaries'
[16:13] <gr33n7007h> is there an ip notificator for the panel?
[16:14] <st34lth> but not sure what can work with usb3.0 jmadero
[16:14] <st34lth> i'm actually surprised. I thought the list would be short jmadero
[16:14] <Siilwyn> Anybody got a suggestion for my problem? [16:54]
[16:14] <jmadero> st34lth: you mean to expand video ports?
[16:14] <mint_> delinquentme: binaries may have any extension, linux does not identify by filename (or extension) but only by content (/MIME type)
[16:16] <Poison877> Hello
[16:16] <Poison877> anybody here ?
[16:16] <gr33n7007h> Poison877: 1793 of us martians :)
[16:16] <Poison877> I was wondering if You could help me : since I upgraded to 14.10 my wifi connection is horrible
[16:16] <Poison877> :)
[16:17] <Invisible_> Hi
[16:17] <st34lth> jmadero: http://plugable.com/products/uga-2k-a this is an example
[16:17] <Poison877> ?
[16:17] <__helllu_world> Hi guys, when I try to connect to the network, I'm getting the following error, "The system's network services are not compaitable with this version"
[16:18] <st34lth> since i'm running out of physical video port. i'd want anything that would work with usb, pref usb 3.0
[16:18] <__helllu_world> I tried restarting the network manager, yet nothing happens
[16:18] <jmadero> st34lth: ah interesting
[16:18] <Poison877> Anybody can help me ? :(
[16:18] <jmadero> st34lth: now I'm seeing your dilemma - yeah I'm not sure sorry
[16:18] <jmadero> Poison877: be patient
[16:18] <Poison877> :) kk
[16:18] <jmadero> Poison877: IRC general rule - ask a question, wait for 5-10, then ask again
[16:18] <Poison877> I'll keep it in mind , sorry
[16:18] <jmadero> Poison877: how do you know your wifi connection is horrible?
[16:19] <gr33n7007h> apart from giplet
[16:19] <__helllu_world> My interfaces aren't getting detected when I restart the network-manager
[16:19] <jmadero> Poison877: like what does that mean - did you do a speedtest? is it dropping out?
[16:19] <Poison877> Well , since I upgraded to 14.10 is slow, it looks like the reception is weaker
[16:19] <Poison877> and I cannot do anything like watching videos ... and when I browse a website is really slow loading
[16:20] <mysupper> I chosed clamtk. don't know usable but a little bit feel safe. hehe
[16:20] <jmadero> Poison877: do a speed test
[16:20] <Poison877> HOw jmadero ?
[16:20] <jmadero> Poison877: speedtest.net
[16:20] <Poison877> Oki ...
[16:20] <Poison877> By the way, how do I tag someone when I write ?
[16:20] <Poison877> :)
[16:21] <jmadero> Poison877:  put in the first two or three letters and then push tab
[16:21] <jmadero> Poison877: or just type their entire name out
[16:21] <Poison877> jmadero,  , thanks ;)
[16:21] <jmadero> Poison877: no problem - we were all new at one point :-b
[16:21] <jmadero> st34lth: need to introduce you to my buddy who is ultra paranoid even in Linux ;)
[16:21] <Poison877> :)
[16:22] <Poison877> doing the speedtest now mate
[16:22] <PaRaD0xR2> hi, just got a new pc with win7 on it, but am ready to install ubuntu 12.04 lts on it for dual boot, can somebody walk me thru the install?  Just so I set up everything good.  Also dont want to lose my win7 install, wanna use it for htpc setup
[16:22] <__helllu_world> Hi guys, when I try to connect to the network, I'm getting the following error, "The system's network services are not compaitable with this version". I tried restarting the network manager, yet nothing happens. My interfaces aren't getting detected when I restart the network-manager
[16:22] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: hopefully you mean Ubuntu 14.10
[16:22] <PaRaD0xR2> I have the 12.04 lts cd booted up, at the installation type screen, thanks :)
[16:22] <jmadero> or at least 14.04
[16:22] <__helllu_world> Someone please help ?
[16:22] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: um 12.04 is EOL
[16:22] <jmadero> I think...or is it not?
[16:22] <Poison877> jmadero,  , so is 39.90 mbs
[16:22] <PaRaD0xR2> well, I have a 12.04 lts cd
[16:22] <jmadero> Poison877: that is quite fast
[16:23] <Poison877> But ... how come is so slow
[16:23] <Poison877> :(
[16:23] <PaRaD0xR2> think it's still supported no?
[16:23] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: um maybe - but .... it's really old and you're going to be stuck with really old software (for instance LibreOffice 3.5 I think....)
[16:23] <jmadero> which is completely EOL
[16:23] <PaRaD0xR2> just not sure how to setup the partitions
[16:23] <daftykins> 12.04 is good until 2017
[16:24] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: yes be quite careful  with setting up ;)
[16:24] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: one moment let me find you a tutorial
[16:24] <daftykins> !12.04
[16:24] <jmadero> best to have visuals
[16:24] <PaRaD0xR2> jmadero: yeah, hence why I'n here :)
[16:24] <zteam> __helllu_world, What Ubuntu version is this? is this on a freshly installed system?
[16:25] <PaRaD0xR2> I've been using Ubuntu for a year now, just not sure about setting up partitions
[16:25] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: generally what I do is 1 relatively small partition for root, 1 medium size partition for home, 1 very large partition for a shared partition, then Windows and swap
[16:25] <__helllu_world> zteam: I was trying to install "arping" package using aptitude. I'm using 14.04, for a while
[16:25] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: you can PM me if you want (if you're doing it right now)
[16:25] <PaRaD0xR2> I am
[16:25] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: avoids the noise of the room
[16:25] <PaRaD0xR2> thanks jmadero
[16:27] <zteam> __helllu_world, you aren't trying out some ARP-poisoning are u?
[16:27] <__helllu_world> zteam: No
[16:27] <daftykins> jmadero: there's a reason we keep things all in channel :)
[16:27] <daftykins> !pm
[16:27] <daftykins> ^
[16:27] <__helllu_world> I just wanted to check the IP addresses allotted by the DHCP in my network using ARP cache
[16:27] <__helllu_world> zteam:
[16:28] <PaRaD0xR2> o, whatever
[16:28] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: so "something else"
[16:29] <PaRaD0xR2> ok
[16:29] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: you'll want to shrink your W7 partition way down
[16:29] <PaRaD0xR2> k, installtion type
[16:29] <PaRaD0xR2> lists a bunch of stuff
[16:29] <PaRaD0xR2> sda1 fat16 40 mb unknown
[16:29] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: do you see the partition setup now?
[16:30] <PaRaD0xR2> sda2 nfts 23262MB 11019 used
[16:30] <jmadero> PaRaD0xR2: dammit I forgot, I'm not sure if you can shrink partition from that
[16:30] <jmadero> hold on - been awhile since I've done this
[16:30] <jmadero> let me google real quick
[16:31] <PaRaD0xR2> sda3 ntfs 976987 MB 209478 used
[16:31] <PaRaD0xR2> ok
[16:31] <daftykins> please pastebin instead of spamming us
[16:31] <daftykins> !paste
[16:31] <PaRaD0xR2> o right
[16:31] <PaRaD0xR2> sorry daftykins
[16:31] <zteam> __helllu_world, okey, why not checking it up against the router?
[16:31] <PaRaD0xR2> forgot my manners
[16:32] <zteam> __helllu_world, I'm really a little drunk right now, so maybe I'm thinking totally wrong.... :-)
[16:35] <zteam> did this place just died all suddenly?? echoo? :-)
[16:35] <bazhang> !ot | zteam
[16:36] <TheXenith> hello! I am using Xubuntu (converted Ubuntu to Xubuntu), and the only indicator plugin (volume, battery, etc.) is from Unity; it crashes often and looks terrible. The package xfce4-indicator-plugin is installed, but isn't showing up.
[16:37] <zteam> bazhang, I think I'm fairly on topic aint' I ? :-)
[16:37] <ca1eb> TheXenith: ask in #xubuntu
[16:38] <ca1eb> TheXenith: I don't know how to help BUT I have xfce4-volumed running here, mght be worth a check
[16:38] <ca1eb> TheXenith: and consider using xfce4-mixer as a workaround
[16:38] <ca1eb> at least for volume
[16:38] <buttmax> good morning
[16:40] <buttmax> and also have a good day
[16:40] <buttmax> cya
[16:43] <sn33zy> im modifying an xorg.conf file to load an alternate video driver but its not loading.
[16:43] <TheXenith> additional question that also might not apply here: on Windows, adjusting the JAVA_HOME variable is pretty simple, but Eclipse IDE is telling me that my JAVA_HOME on Ubuntu is set to a JRE, not a JDK. How do I point eclipse to the OpenJDK?
[16:43] <punnars> ppf: not only did it still not work, I ran apt-get update/upgrade, tried to log in, still did not work, manually restarded. Now the login screen doesnt even load.
[16:43] <william_> Where can i find a nice tutorial with .se dll files? :)
[16:43] <TheXenith> or does eclipse have an IRC channel I can ask in?
[16:44] <william_> .so* files
[16:44] <ppf> punnars: what do X's log files tell you about that?
[16:45] <punnars> still got my filesystem, so i got that going
[16:45] <punnars> lets see
[16:46] <punnars> ppf: http://pastie.org/9993928
[16:46] <ioria> sn33zy, look if you have  another xorg.conf
[16:48] <sn33zy> ioria: no. there is just one.
[16:49] <TheXenith> oh god, I think I screwed up my sources.list
[16:49] <daftykins> TheXenith: how-so?
[16:49] <daftykins> there's a repo gen site that's easy to use
[16:50] <TheXenith> I just tried a "partial upgrade" and got told everything it tried to download 404'd
[16:51] <ppf> punnars: that's the exact same log file as before?
[16:51] <daftykins> TheXenith: what on earth do you mean, partial upgrade?
[16:51] <daftykins> maybe your network connection isn't good, or you typo'd the repos
[16:52] <ppf> also, Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.2.log", Time: Fri Oct 17 23:33:03 2014
[16:52] <ppf> that's not very recent
[16:52] <ioria> sn33zy, did you write it well ?with tabs... etc  ?
[16:52] <punnars> shit durr
[16:52] <punnars> figured the .2 would be latest
[16:52] <TheXenith> "Not all updates can be installed / Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible."
[16:53] <daftykins> punnars: language please.
[16:53] <sn33zy> ioria: i did X -configure... used the output and changed the driver from intel to ilo (experimental).
[16:53] <sn33zy> ioria: then i restarted the x server and still using i915
[16:53] <punnars> yeah this one is more juicy
[16:54] <punnars> ppf: http://pastie.org/9993938
[16:54] <punnars> gad damn it
[16:56] <daftykins> we can probably do without the exclamations, punnars
[16:57] <ioria> sn33zy, try nomodeset in grub
[16:57] <punnars> sry bruh
[16:57] <sn33zy> ioria: how do i do that?
[16:58] <ioria> sn33zy, press shift at  boot and edit the line
[16:58] <sn33zy> ioria: does it need a '-
[16:58] <sn33zy> ' in front?
[16:58] <Bashing-om> !nomodest | sn33zy
[16:59] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | sn33zy
[16:59] <Anony> americans ?
[16:59] <k1l_> Anony: ubuntu support only in here.
[16:59] <Anony> '-'
[17:00] <ioria> sn33zy, no
[17:00] <yart> s.o. an idea or some keywords how to prevent hdd from sleeping when on battery (xfce) Thank you.
[17:01] <jhutchins> yart: hdparm
[17:01] <TheXenith> asdfjkl, one weird repo messed up all the others somehow
[17:02] <TheXenith> remove the odd one and the "partial upgrade" is running fine. tyvm FIRST...
[17:02] <yart> jhutchins: thanks
[17:05] <zgrge> Hello everyone! I've issues with my samsung 840 EVO SSD (low performance), after some search I've found solution - wrong alignment. In order to fix the problem I shall align partition in 6144 (6MiB) boundaries. But the only tool that can do that is gdisk (mode x -> l). I have MBR table so I need another tool, anyone can recommend anything?
[17:06] <daftykins> zgrge: you're aware they also have a major ongoing firmware bug that degrades performance?
[17:06] <daftykins> so 4K alignment isn't the only factor
[17:07] <zgrge> daftykins: yes, I've upgraded firmware after 3 months of purchase. it didn't help, hdparm -tT shows 20MB/s
[17:08] <daftykins> hmm
[17:08] <zgrge> daftykins: I were really disappointed in ssd and wanted to get rid of it, but today I've found this: https://cillian.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/setting-up-samsung-840-evo-ssds-on-linux/
[17:08] <zgrge> if where is no such tool for MBR table I'll reformat drive
[17:09] <daftykins> no ideas here personally
[17:09] <daftykins> but yeah updating firmware isn't yet a solution, the bug is still there in some cases
[17:13] <Siilwyn> Hi people, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, sometimes the 'Log Out' option does not work, basically nothing happens when pressed. The only noticeable thing is that there is no text whatsoever in the top bar at the left. It does work after I use 'Lock' and login again. How can I troubleshoot this? Any logs that I can look into?
[17:14] <SupaYoshi> Hey
[17:15] <SupaYoshi> Recently I am reading more and more about cryptoware locking files and stuff, I was wondering what's a good way to create versioned backups?
[17:15] <SupaYoshi> I am thinking to do it with rsync.
[17:15] <pumice> Today my launcher on my desktop for gmail stopped working, and when clicked on goes to ubuntu start page every time no matter how many times I deleted it and started over, what has happened to my gmail desktop link?
[17:15] <SupaYoshi> So lets say, I let Windows make backups to a certain mapped drive, or folder. (or from cobian backup) which is what I use for Windows.
[17:15] <SupaYoshi> I'd like to make a copy with rsync from Linux from these files every x days, to make a seperate backup
[17:16] <SupaYoshi> That would be inaccesable by the cryptoware if such an event took place.
[17:16] <Whitor> Siilwyn, I'm not sure...  I saw you asked this earlier...   try google for answering your Q. if that doesn't get oyu anywhere... try re-submitting your Q every couple few hours or so..
[17:19] <pumice> is anyone having problems with there launchers or desktop links going straight to ubuntu start page?
[17:26] <nrml1> so I'm running this old apt proxy and its cache seems to be out of date, how do you update it?
[17:29] <wxl> hey folks, can someone please tell me how to get .XCompose to work so i can define my own compose key combinations
[17:30] <WebonauteWork> hi. I have an issue with ctrl+space, I searched around google and it said to purge ibus. I did it but when I do the key again, it continue to try to changer my keyboard setting.
[17:30] <wxl> and to be clear, i have defined my own ~/.XCompose, which includes the default for my locale (include "%L") and no matter what windows i reopen or how many times i restart, nothing happens
[17:31] <mysupper> WebonauteWork, install language pack and there's options selecting ibus and check keyboard input at system_options.
[17:31] <wxl> WebonauteWork: ibus is the default input method. you sure you don't have another installed? or perhaps that's the hotkey for changing your keyboard layout/
[17:32] <Siilwyn> Whitor, thanks for replying. I already did a lot of searching on the internet. And I actually re-submitted my question here for three times now. (=
[17:32] <mysupper> linux multilanguage pros almost solved I guess.
[17:32] <Siilwyn> Whitor, I'm currently thinking about creating a bug report.
[17:32] <mysupper> just 1,2,3 step as I said.
[17:33] <WebonauteWork> what is managing keyboard if I dont have ibus?
[17:33] <wxl> ibus manages the input method. for example, ibus-anthy allows you to type romaji to input japanese
[17:33] <mysupper> WebonauteWork, just install ibus and select keyboard options at setting screen.
[17:34] <mysupper> I'm just user not interested in really what's in side.
[17:34] <mysupper> as long as pros not exists. :)
[17:37] <WebonauteWork> it not help me. I try all option in ibus. nothing work. than I desinstall it and purge and it continue throwing the keyboard layout change when I do ctrl+space
[17:37] <WebonauteWork> so something else bypass ibus
[17:38] <wxl> WebonauteWork: it depends on whether or not you're talking about the keyboard layout (i.e. you have a japanese keyboard) or the input method (i.e. you want to type japanese using a non-japanese keyboard for example, like with ibus-anthy i type nihongo and get にほんご)
[17:38] <soahccc> Do you have to format all partitions in order to change partition schema or can you convert it somehow? I screwed the raid rebuild a bit and now I have mixed schemas one of which I cannot install grub on: https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/3fae02f7e3d24be2b413
[17:39] <WebonauteWork> wxl: its english keyboard
[17:40] <WebonauteWork> I dont have any other keyboard installed
[17:40] <wxl> WebonauteWork: with an english input method only?
[17:41] <WebonauteWork> I only have one keyboard layout installed and is the default english(us) one
[17:41] <wxl> then when you hit ctrl-space, what happens?
[17:41] <WebonauteWork> it display a small icon which select english(us) keyboard
[17:42] <wxl> and if you right click on that, what is it?
[17:42] <WebonauteWork> it do nothing. its an icon just showing the keyboard currenly used
[17:43] <wxl> where is this displayed?
[17:45] <wamicho> Hello .. Has anyone been able to use the nvidia prime with ubuntu 14.04  i get a black scren on reboot after installing this. Help please
[17:46] <daftykins> wamicho: you installed it alongside nvidia-331 presumably? what's your hardware?
[17:46] <WebonauteWork> at the bottom left corner
[17:47] <wxl> WebonauteWork: bottom left is strange. does it stay there ir does it disappear after a while?
[17:47] <WebonauteWork> it disapear after a second
[17:47] <wxl> hm interesting
[17:48] <wxl> have you looked at the keyboard settings?
[17:48] <wamicho> daftykins: Dell latitude E5440 with GeForce GT 720
[17:48] <WebonauteWork> where is that setting if I removed ibus^
[17:49] <daftykins> wamicho: what's the current state of this machine then? have you gotten to a workable desktop?
[17:50] <wxl> WebonauteWork: system settings.
[17:53] <WebonauteWork> I checked all the shortcut in system settings -> keyboard, there is no ctrl+space
[17:53] <darius93> Quick question, with the release of 14.04.2, is it available on distro that is base/built around ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[17:53] <WebonauteWork> I disabled the switch input source
[17:53] <EriC^^> WebonauteWork, are you looking for the change language shortcut?
[17:53] <wxl> WebonauteWork: did you look under text input?
[17:54] <WebonauteWork> EriC^^: I am looking to disable it
[17:54] <wxl> darius93: 14.04.2 is a version of 14.04 lts, if that's what you mean.
[17:54] <WebonauteWork> wxl: I dont have text-input. ibus is uninstalled
[17:54] <wamicho> daftykins: i have removed the driver and it was able to start the gui
[17:55] <EriC^^> WebonauteWork, the shortcut is super+space
[17:55] <darius93> wxl, I know, I was asking is it available for other distros base on ubuntu 14.04? eg linux mint, zorin os, etc.
[17:55] <daftykins> wamicho: ok, can you run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit"
[17:55] <daftykins> wamicho: and also "lspci | pastebinit"
[17:55] <ntsp> Is there a way to prevent HDMI turning off on ubuntu server after its been disconnected for a bit?
[17:55] <WebonauteWork> EriC^^: I know but CTRL + Space also do it. I want to get rid of it
[17:55] <wxl> darius93: i'm pretty sure there are, but i don't use 'em. maybe distrowatch can offer some help.
[17:56] <ntsp> (Running a media server/other services and sometimes I need to start X11 after the screen has been turned off due ot innactivity)
[17:56] <daftykins> ntsp: server turning off? so, no X? it'll just be a screensaver...
[17:56] <ntsp> daftykins X is off most of the time and hdmi shuts off for some reason, I want to start X at random times while its running
[17:56] <ntsp> its a media server
[17:57] <ntsp> and starting X doesnt force it on afaik
[17:57] <sergio-br2> "Open Link in Browser" stop working with the last firefox update, does someone have an idea how to fix it?
[17:57] <darius93> Just trying to double check
[17:57] <wamicho> daftykins: done
[17:57] <sergio-br2> So, with Xchat or other programs, it does not working
[17:57] <daftykins> wamicho: you need to paste the links here so i can see :)
[17:58] <wamicho> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10504251/
[17:58] <EriC^^> WebonauteWork, open a terminal and type unity-control-center region
[17:58] <wamicho> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10504255/
[17:59] <wamicho> daftykins: done
[18:00] <daftykins> wamicho: hmm that should've worked really, did you use the hardware drivers 'wizard' to install them?
[18:01] <WebonauteWork> EriC^^: "Switch to next source using" is empty
[18:02] <WebonauteWork> CTRL+Space still continue to change my layout keyboard
[18:02] <wamicho> daftykins:  i used the command after the gui could not work and reconfigured the xserver again
[18:03] <wamicho> daftykins: is there anything to be done to make it work ...
[18:03] <daftykins> wamicho: i mean when you first put the nvidia driver on?
[18:03] <daftykins> what method?
[18:04] <wamicho> daftykins: yes i used the additional drive to put it on
[18:05] <daftykins> wamicho: do you still have ubuntu on a flash drive, or DVD that you booted from to install?
[18:05] <wamicho> daftykins:  i have the dvd ...
[18:06] <daftykins> wamicho: ok, one more command before i think - "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:07] <wamicho> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10504371/
[18:07] <wamicho> daftykins:  done
[18:07] <darius93> what directory should i delete or renamed if i plan on installing another OS but dont want any conflicts? I do have my home directory in a different partition
[18:08] <EriC^^> darius93, just install the whole OS on another partition
[18:08] <EriC^^> as long as no partitions are in common you shouldn't have any conflicts
[18:09] <darius93> EriC^, i have 2 partitions, one for the OS and one for the home directory
[18:09] <daftykins> wamicho: install the packages again, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime" then try to boot, if it doesn't work, boot into the DVD and come back on here via webchat or something
[18:09] <EriC^^> darius93, you want to share the home partition between them?
[18:09] <darius93> No, just erase the old OS and install a new one.
[18:09] <White_Cat_mobile> Eric^ do you think you'll be around tommorow?
[18:09] <EriC^^> White_Cat_mobile, yeah
[18:10] <EriC^^> darius93, you could erase all the hidden files in your home dir if you plan on copying it back to the new installation's home
[18:11] <EriC^^> if none of them are dir you've created yourself or have any special settings you need
[18:12] <stangeland> I am trying to have my firefox proxy through my ssh-tunnel, so i try to do this: ssh -D 8080 user@server.at.home but that just connects my to ssh normally and gives me a bash session. How do i make an SSH tunnel?
[18:12] <daftykins> stangeland: that's how it works, then you redirect firefox in the settings
[18:14] <stangeland> nice, thx
[18:14] <skift> anyone on here by chance run linux on a yoga 3 pro? Most things seem to work, except touch gestures for me. a normal tap works for clicking, but thats it. i can scroll, pinch, zoom, or anything else. Was wondering if anyone knew of a possible fix
[18:14] <Siilwyn> Hi people, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, sometimes the 'Log Out' option does not work, basically nothing happens when pressed. The only noticeable thing is that there is no text whatsoever in the top bar at the left. It does work after I use 'Lock' and login again. How can I troubleshoot this? Any logs that I can look into?
[18:15] <wamicho> daftykins: the issue is when i install it and reboot it has intel activated  once i activate nvidia prime when and reboot there is where the black screen comes
[18:15] <daftykins> Siilwyn: test a clean user account
[18:15] <Siilwyn> daftykins, the problem is that it only happening 2-3 times a week.
[18:15] <daftykins> wamicho: you most likely cannot pick between them, assuming you're trying to say you want to make the nvidia one the sole 'card'... that's not how optimus setups work
[18:16] <daftykins> wamicho: but if you do that, a log will say what is wrong
[18:17] <Siilwyn> daftykins, wouldn't there be a log somewhere I could look into?
[18:17] <wamicho> daftykins, just finished the installation and did select prime and it did not accept
[18:18] <daftykins> Siilwyn: pass. just suggesting the obvious easy methods of diagnosis, i don't use desktop myself so can't be that helpful.
[18:18] <daftykins> wamicho: 'select prime' ? what does that mean
[18:18] <Siilwyn> daftykins, oh alright. Thanks for your answer though!
[18:18] <wamicho> daftykins, i get the following error  Error: alternatives are not set up properly Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled
[18:19] <daftykins> wamicho: ah-har, hmm.
[18:19] <wamicho> daftykins, on the nvidia settings i want to have nvidia activated
[18:19] <R13ose> I am using Libreoffice on Ubuntu, yet this is not opening up when I tried to update to 4.4.1, any ideas why?
[18:19] <wamicho> daftykins, perfomance mode
[18:19] <daftykins> wamicho: you did reboot first, right?
[18:20] <wamicho> yes
[18:20] <daftykins> after the install
[18:20] <daftykins> ok, can you show a screenshot? imgur.com would do
[18:21] <wamicho> daftykins, yes did that after reboot
[18:22] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/451335/cant-switch-anymore-from-intel-to-nvidia-gpu
[18:22] <daftykins> wamicho: seems relevant ^
[18:26] <wamicho> daftykins, ok ..  i have done all the steps on that page after updating the alternative and rebooting there is where i get the black screen
[18:26] <daftykins> every single one 0o
[18:26] <wamicho> daftykins, does this means there is no solution for this ..
[18:27] <daftykins> alright well boot the DVD and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:27] <daftykins> no not necessarily, what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:28] <wamicho> daftykins, 14.04
[18:28] <jjavaholic> I can't work out why I can't write to an External hard Drive that still has 24gb left on it where do I look first?
[18:28] <beachbuddah> hey gang - I would like to add a file to my sudoers.d folder but do not know what it needs to say or how it should be formatted
[18:29] <daftykins> jjavaholic: probably root's 5% reserved space, if this is an ext4 volume.
[18:29] <daftykins> jjavaholic: can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show "df -h" ?
[18:30] <wiso> hi
[18:31] <jmadero> wiso: need help with something?
[18:32] <wiso> reading to me??
[18:32] <ntsp> Is there a way to wake up the screen on a headless server?(that has just been plugged a screen)
[18:33] <wamicho> daftykins, is there anything to be done ...
[18:33] <wiso> i hace wicd  as connection mabager  someone here  know  another beter app  for  connection?
[18:33] <daftykins> wamicho: i already said above
[18:33] <wiso> i mean using  xubuntu
[18:33] <burkmat> ntsp: Press keys on the keyboard usually works.
[18:34] <ntsp> burkmat no keyboard only ssh access :p
[18:34] <jjavaholic> why would /media/storageName permissions revert to root?
[18:34] <winterchillz> Guys, where do I have to put rsyncd.conf in order to get the rsync daemon to use it?
[18:34] <burkmat> ntsp: Ooh, funsies. Then you get into weird territory... You could try... Hm... Sending weird escape chars to the tty? Maybe.
[18:34] <wamicho> daftykins, to boot the dvd and so on ? i though you said no need below
[18:34] <jmadero> hmm - I was chatting with someone before but rebooted and can't remember their name....so if you're still around - feel free to ping me again :0
[18:35] <R13ose> any thoughts on my question?
[18:36] <daftykins> wamicho: no
[18:36] <burkmat> ntsp: I don't actually know what causes the sleep. Assuming this is a terminal in some kind of window manager, not just console?
[18:36] <daftykins> R13ose: did you use a PPA? that's unsupported here really
[18:37] <ntsp> burkmat just console... for some reason if I try to start X from SSH while the screen is off its not working
[18:37] <wamicho> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10504723/
[18:37] <R13ose> daftykins: yes, is that wrong?
[18:38] <daftykins> R13ose: well PPAs just aren't supported here, tried finding a libre office channel? use the bot 'alis'
[18:38] <daftykins> wamicho: no idea what's going on there.
[18:38] <R13ose> daftykins: what is wrong with ppa?
[18:38] <daftykins> they're not ubuntu thus they're a third party
[18:38] <daftykins> so we can't help here.
[18:39] <jmadero> R13ose: #libreoffice
[18:39] <daftykins> !ppa
[18:39] <R13ose> jmadero: I am here in there
[18:39] <R13ose> daftykins: thanks, I didn't know that
[18:42] <MoPac> Hello. I've become frustrated with months of frequent apt errors related to a "failure to download extra data files". Others have opened threads like this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2265610  and especially this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/153928/failure-to-download-extra-data-files-after-installing-ttf-mscorefonts-installe but the suggestions have not worked for me.
[18:43] <ikonia> MoPac: not interested in other forums posts, explain YOU exact problem please
[18:44] <eikon81g> I am trying to do some quick updates using the software updater and I am getting: "The upgrade needs a total of 159 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 24.3 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'." can I go to the folder and just empty out the contents my self? I ran the clean command and I still get the error mess
[18:44] <eikon81g> age and my trash is empty
[18:44] <eikon81g> Thanks in advance for the assist out there :P
[18:44] <ikonia> eikon81g: remove old kernel packages
[18:45] <wiso> hi
[18:45] <eikon81g> ikonia the files like initrd.img
[18:45] <eikon81g> ?
[18:45] <wiso> a question
[18:45] <ikonia> eikon81g: no
[18:45] <daftykins> eikon81g: via packages, don't rm :P
[18:45] <wiso> using xubuntu
[18:45] <ikonia> eikon81g: the packages - open the package managers and remove the old kernel packages you don't need
[18:45] <daftykins> eikon81g: "ls -al /boot | pastebinit"
[18:45] <MoPac> ikonia: This is my latest trace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10504811/ .  I constantly receive these errors (along with a popup from the GUI update manager) related to packages like netflix-desktop, Silverlight, etc... things associated with Microsoft gratis but non-free code
[18:46] <wiso> exists a connection manager as wicd as alternative?
[18:46] <eikon81g> Ok I am checking I am a noob so just a sec thanks by the way :)
[18:46] <MoPac> I've tried purging all of the culprit packages and starting over; including accepting the license. I've tried manually creating or deleting the folders in the partial downloads area.... always end up stuck in this loop of install failures
[18:47] <ikonia> MoPac: thats because you are using software that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:47] <ikonia> MoPac: you're using 3rd party packages from repos that are not being maintained by the ubuntu project
[18:47] <eikon81g> So i am using synaptic package manager and I am looking @ kernal and modules
[18:47] <ikonia> MoPac: I suggest you take this up with the people who manage your netflix software repo
[18:47] <eikon81g> am I on the right track
[18:47] <eikon81g> ?
[18:47] <ikonia> MoPac: the problem is not an ubuntu one
[18:49]  * eikon81g sweats bullets 
[18:49] <MoPac> ikonia: I'm aware of the fact that the packages are third-party and what that means. But the actual issue that I'm trying to deal with now is, at a minimum, how to prevent apt and update-manager from bothering me all the time about it. At best, I'm hoping to see if I can get my existing package system to play nice with them.
[18:49] <ikonia> MoPac: you can't
[18:49] <ikonia> MoPac: it's bothering you to tell you the packages are wrong/bad
[18:50] <ikonia> MoPac: fix the packages is the answer
[18:52] <eikon81g> daftykins sorry I am a noobn
[18:52] <eikon81g> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10504883/
[18:52] <daftykins> eikon81g: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.16.0-23-generic
[18:53] <MoPac> ikonia: I don't understand where this attitude is coming from. Even in the absence of a resolution to whatever apt is seeing, I don't even notice issues with fonts or whatever the substantive glitch is. But I do notice that I am getting harried by error messages that I don't want and would like to suppress regardless. Yes, trying to change the packages themselves is one approach.
[18:53] <MoPac> But does apt work for me or do I work for it?
[18:53] <ikonia> MoPac: there is not attitude
[18:53] <ikonia> MoPac: I'm telling you the truth on how to fix your problem correctly
[18:54] <ikonia> MoPac: if you don't want the error your choices are 1.) fix the problem 2.) close your eyes
[18:54] <eikon81g> ok daftykins.. I got that done, had to close synaptic and it is executing
[18:54] <eikon81g> thanks so much, may I ask how you know which to remove?
[18:54] <BarnabasDK> technical question: for dnsmasq whats the correct config folder out of the box: /etc/dnsmasq.d or /etc/networkmanager/dnsmasq.d ?
[18:54] <daftykins> eikon81g: the older ones :)
[18:54] <daftykins> (smaller ending numbers)
[18:54] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: are you using network manager ?
[18:54] <jjavaholic> I want a list of users and associated user numbers
[18:54] <ikonia> jjavaholic: look in the passwd file
[18:55] <daftykins> eikon81g: plus the currently running kernel can be checked via "uname -r"
[18:55] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, yes I am
[18:55] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: then is the network manager one as network manager will launch dnsmasq on your behalf
[18:55] <eikon81g> ok, ok I follow. Wow. thanks so much. Is it normal for several kernal versions to hang around in there?
[18:55] <eikon81g> (thanks so much again)
[18:55] <jmadero> yes
[18:55] <jmadero> and I still am not sure why ;)
[18:55] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, also my conclusion, but I wanted to make sure
[18:56] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: move forward with confidence then
[18:56] <BarnabasDK> sudo apt-get install dnsmasq should disable dnsmasq from network manager imho
[18:56] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: you don't need to do that
[18:56] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: it's installed by default
[18:56] <daftykins> eikon81g: yes, there are plenty of updates over the years. running an LTS will go through tens of them
[18:56] <jjavaholic> how do you read the passwd file?
[18:57] <Bashing-om> daftykins: eikon81g linux-headers too ?
[18:57] <ikonia> jjavaholic: in a text editor
[18:57] <BarnabasDK> I know but if you go for the install that way around its because you have other requirements
[18:57] <daftykins> eikon81g: but you're on 14.10 so you won't have that problem unless you upgrade
[18:57] <daftykins> Bashing-om: could do an autoremove to get that i guess
[18:57] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: so then you should know how to manage it
[18:57] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: that "other way" is not designed for desktop interaction
[18:57] <jjavaholic> I don't understand the %number:%number bit which is the user number?
[18:57] <ikonia> jjavaholic: the first
[18:57] <eikon81g> ok ok thanks for all of that so what are the linux-headers?
[18:57] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, true
[18:57] <Bashing-om> daftykins: :)
[18:57] <daftykins> eikon81g: run sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:58] <eikon81g> ok
[18:58] <jjavaholic> what is the second number for?
[18:58] <ikonia> jjavaholic: group
[18:58] <eikon81g> are they listed in my pastebin on /boot as well?
[18:59] <eikon81g> done @ daftykins
[18:59] <daftykins> nope
[18:59] <daftykins> eikon81g: ok, you can resume your update now via the GUI updater
[18:59] <slambxc> What is the output of "date -u +%V$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?
[18:59] <ikonia> slambxc: run it and find out
[18:59] <eikon81g> it freed up 24mb as well.. is this is just a normal process to clean up periodically?
[18:59] <ikonia> slambxc: you can do that
[18:59] <eikon81g> thanks again for everything all of you :) SO awesome.
[19:00] <eikon81g> ah crap. I still need 2.440k
[19:00] <eikon81g> smh :\ the updater shot me that error again.. What else can be removed?
[19:01] <daftykins> seems like your partition is waaaaay too small
[19:01] <daftykins> eikon81g: "df -h | pastebinit" ?
[19:01] <slambxc> ikonia i am trying to register on a forum and its asking this question
[19:01] <ikonia> eikon81g: please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[19:01] <eikon81g> ugh, may be..
[19:01] <eikon81g> kk
[19:01] <ikonia> slambxc: then run it on your host
[19:01] <ikonia> slambxc: we are not running it for you
[19:01] <daftykins> eikon81g: another "ls -al /boot | pastebinit" wouldn't hurt too
[19:01] <slambxc> where in terminal
[19:01] <eikon81g> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10505020/
[19:01] <ikonia> slambxc: yes
[19:02] <eikon81g> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10505022/ << -al boot
[19:02] <ikonia> eikon81g: your boot partition is way too small to be used realistically
[19:03] <daftykins> eikon81g: "dpkg -l | grep linux | pastebinit"
[19:03] <slambxc> ikonia ok thanks. i got it.
[19:03] <eikon81g> well crap I remember when I installed xubuntu I used a seting that mentioned easier resizizing of the partitions
[19:03] <eikon81g> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10505043/
[19:03] <sminth> hello
[19:04] <minas114> I upgraded to ubuntu 14.10 yesterday. When I install the proprietory GPU drivers, after logging in nothing happens -- nothing is shown, only the desktop wallpaper. Using the open source drives works but it doesn't support OPENGLES2 that I need for my programming. How can I install the proprietory drivers and make it work?
[19:04] <eikon81g> I don't know how I ended up with such a small boot partition.. :\ I only have an 80gb drive in this machine..
[19:04] <daftykins> eikon81g: is this a setup with encryption at all?
[19:04] <eikon81g> no encryption
[19:05] <daftykins> eikon81g: run "sudo mv /boot/*-bak ~/"
[19:05] <eikon81g> done
[19:05] <daftykins> that should be enough space for the update now
[19:06] <daftykins> i have no idea why you have kernel backups in there - anyone got any ideas?
[19:06] <MoPac> ikonia: Let me come at this from a different direction. I want to disable update-notifier  or update-manager error popups for specific packages or in instances where the infromation was not from an update-manager GUI session (but simply got passed because I ran apt-get in terminal. Is there a way to do this without uninstalling the GUI tools altogether?
[19:06] <ikonia> MoPac: that is not realistic
[19:06] <eikon81g> trust me I haven't done anything special.. :\
[19:06] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, however if you remove /etc/dnsmasq..d the deamon wont start, even with network manager
[19:06] <ikonia> MoPac: the same premise is true a.) fix the problem b.) ignore the messages
[19:06] <BarnabasDK> sort of strange
[19:06] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: correct
[19:06] <ikonia> not strange
[19:07] <MoPac> ikonia: The problem *is* the messages.
[19:07] <ikonia> MoPac: no it's not
[19:07] <ikonia> MoPac: the problem are the packages
[19:07] <ikonia> the error messages are alerting you to this
[19:07] <daftykins> MoPac: trying to stop being notified about a problem isn't fixing it :(
[19:07] <eikon81g> No error this time. Thanks again daftykins and everyone else. So do you have any recommendations to resolve the boot partition size?
[19:08] <McMido> hello
[19:08] <sminth> eikon i can help
[19:08] <daftykins> eikon81g: not without backup and reinstall
[19:08] <MoPac> ikonia: There is an error, a mismatch, in the software. There is a difference between what apt expects and what it sees, and it alerts users because it expects that this might signal a problem for the users. But it's plain wrong to tell a user that the user's needs don't define what is and is not an actual "problem"
[19:08] <eikon81g> bum. well I guess I can just limp along for awhile. When I install did I do something weird to cause that? like a setting or something?
[19:09] <sminth> 100 py how can i  help u
[19:09] <ikonia> MoPac: the packges are the problem - address that
[19:09] <ikonia> MoPac: the sooner you accept that and start addressing it, the quicker the problem will stop
[19:09] <daftykins> eikon81g: dunno, typically a separate /boot isn't even made anymore, so perhaps this has been after many upgrades / years ?
[19:09] <eikon81g> and daftykins once this finishes should I go ahead and remove the old kernal packages again and clean the headers again?
[19:10] <MoPac> ikonia: I'm the *user* -- I decide what conditions are problems and what conditions are not problems.
[19:10] <ikonia> MoPac: ok - then I've told you how to fix it
[19:10] <ikonia> MoPac: fix the packages, or ignore the errors
[19:10] <ikonia> MoPac: you decide which option you want to do
[19:10] <eikon81g> humm.. I installed xubunut at the beginning of the month and I have been learning a little at a time just using it. I am new to the linux scene... I used a fresh format and partition so I am not sure what I could have done :\
[19:11] <daftykins> eikon81g: mmm, well you should now have a newer kernel than -30 in /boot so i'd reboot into that first, then clean up the old
[19:11] <MoPac> ikonia: You haven't said how to fix it -- you've actually just said that fixing it has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[19:11] <ikonia> MoPac: I have told you how to fix it, talk to the people who maintain those packages
[19:11] <ikonia> MoPac: or you can remove those packages
[19:11] <eikon81g> ok gotcha. I have to copy the commands and save them and change the version number and I should be able to knock it out.
[19:11] <ikonia> MoPac: or you can ignore the errors
[19:12] <MoPac> ikonia: okay, so my choice is to ignore the errors. I'd like to execute that choice by actually suppressing the error messages.
[19:12] <ikonia> MoPac: not going to happen
[19:13] <magg> I’m trying to enable component-to-componet communication using: needs. But don’t know that casing needs uses I’ve seen camelcase, snakecase and with a /. My component name is AdvancedMetricComponent
[19:13] <MoPac> ikonia: It's open-source software that's part of Ubuntu. Maybe someone here knows about it that could get me started on modifying it
[19:13] <ikonia> MoPac: you'll need to modify the code
[19:13] <MoPac> ikonia: That's exactly what I just said
[19:13] <ikonia> MoPac: check out the code and make the changes only you require, rebuild and repackages it, host your own repo
[19:13] <labsin> MoPac apt-get source apt
[19:13] <ikonia> MoPac: there is your path to getting a custom updater package that no-one other than you will want
[19:14] <WebonauteWork> ahhh! I found my ctrl+space issue. configured into fcitx
[19:14] <MoPac> ikonia: I understand that process.
[19:14] <eikon81g> the mv command we ran moved the contents to a new location on the drive? I am just unsure how that worked and what the end result was SORRY I am such a newb
[19:15] <daftykins> eikon81g: yeah the backup files went to /home/you/ just in case being without them causes bad things
[19:15] <Bashing-om> eikon81g: When you installed did you choose "LVM" there is a present bug .
[19:16] <MoPac> ikonia: I don't understand the need to snark so hard at someone in a help forum
[19:16] <daftykins> it did look like LVM
[19:16] <ikonia> MoPac: no-one is snarking
[19:16] <ikonia> MoPac: you're asking for a bad thing - and you're not prepared to do it yourself,
[19:16] <eikon81g> yes I used the LVM thinking I'd have some flexibility down the line
[19:16] <daftykins> doh.
[19:16] <Bashing-om> eikon81g: Perhaps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 .
[19:16] <ikonia> MoPac: you don't want to fix the solution, you want someone to maintain a single custom package for you - it's not really acceptable
[19:16] <eikon81g> maybe since my drive is only 80gb the bug made a very small boot partition?
[19:16] <daftykins> 80GB? crikey.
[19:17] <MoPac> iikonia: I never asked anyone to make a custom package for me.
[19:17] <MoPac> ikonia: That's ridiculous.
[19:17] <ikonia> MoPac: yes you did
[19:17] <eikon81g> ok dafty I see that now. They are fine just to leave there right?
[19:17] <magg> sorry wrong window
[19:17] <ikonia> MoPac: I explained you'd need to build package and maintain your own repo of that custom package
[19:17] <ikonia> MoPac: you said "I know the process"
[19:17] <daftykins> eikon81g: yeah i don't see why not, i couldn't tell if they were attached to a package so i figured move was better than delete
[19:18] <eikon81g> yea, that looks like what mine did @ that bug
[19:18] <eikon81g> right on, you guys are so good it's sickening. LOL!!! So does the OS still "know" where they are?
[19:18] <MoPac> ikonia:  I know about the packaging process. I'm not familiar with the update-notifier code itself. I speculated that someone who is familiar with it might have some advice about where to look for the error popup, for instance.
[19:18] <ikonia> MoPac: so basically - you want someone to re-write the code for you
[19:18] <eikon81g> or if we hit an issue we would need to move them back manually?
[19:19] <ikonia> MoPac: which means they will need to maintain it or the next ubuntu updated will undo it
[19:19] <MoPac> ikonia: That is not at all what that statement means
[19:19] <ikonia> MoPac: the REAL solution is to FIX the packages
[19:19] <ikonia> MoPac: and you'll be a better community member others will benifit
[19:19]  * eikon81g turns into a sponge to soak up knowledge from daftykins 
[19:19] <ikonia> rather than this over the top solution for a custom apt build
[19:20] <daftykins> eikon81g: nah it won't have a clue, but when you reboot to boot into the newer kernel, i don't see any reason it'd want those files
[19:20] <daftykins> since they were for an older kernel or two
[19:21] <MoPac> ikonia: I don't know how over-the-top it would be until/unless I really look through the update-notifier code, I suppose. It might be as simple as commenting out a section
[19:21] <ikonia> MoPac: then look at the code
[19:21] <eikon81g> I am going to go ahead and do a quick reboot and then I will attempt to remove the older kernal *crosses fingers* gotcha daftykins. Makes sense.. A million thanks, I'll brb
[19:21] <ikonia> MoPac: do you know C and python ?
[19:21] <ikonia> MoPac: and FYI: it's not as simple as commenting out that section
[19:23] <fluvvell> is there anywhere I can get help with a monitor thats not displaying correctly?
[19:23] <MoPac> ikonia: I know some. I'm not an advanced or professional programmer. I also know enough about the entire process to know that having a personal update-notifier version could end up being easier than trying to have custom personally modified packages for netflix-desktop, wine-silverlight5.1-installer, etc
[19:24] <ikonia> MoPac: you couldn't be more wrong if you wanted to me
[19:24] <ikonia> MoPac: fixing some basic deb packaging errors is MUCH quicker and smimpler than cusotmising the whole package manager to surpress errors and then maintaining that
[19:24] <MoPac> ikonia: So consider that you mocked me by claiming (wrongly) that I was trying to get someone to write me a modified apt package, but your advice is for me to go to third parties and get them to modify their packages for me
[19:24]  * daftykins chuckles
[19:24] <ikonia> MoPac: no-one is mocking you
[19:25] <ikonia> MoPac: my advice is to get third parties to fix their packages yes, they may not even know its broken, or better still YOU fix them and feed the fixes back to them
[19:25] <ikonia> just looks like the definition or manifest is wrong
[19:25] <ikonia> shouldn't take long at all
[19:29] <fluvvell> are the intel video drivers buggy or are sparklies on my screen supposed to be there? Or is that another channel
[19:29] <daftykins> what's happening?
[19:29] <lasko> lol sparklies?
[19:29] <lasko> screen shot I want to see heh
[19:29] <daftykins> easy, lasko
[19:29]  * daftykins sedates lasko 
[19:29] <winterchillz> Is there a way to use dynamic wallpapers without having to install 3rd party software to change them for me
[19:30] <lasko> daftykins: whoa whoaaaaa. I think we just might have in incident of excessive Glitter usage.
[19:30] <lasko> And I want to see
[19:30] <fluvvell> lasko, pixels that rotate in different colours
[19:30] <lasko> oh. Well then nevermind. I'll take my seat on teh floor and watch.
[19:31] <fluvvell> daftykins, its only when I'm trying to get the screen to run in its full resolution of 2550x1600. And it does it with 14.04 and 14.10, installed or booted with an iso.
[19:31] <daftykins> what system?
[19:32] <daftykins> presumably intel on-die graphics, so which CPU?
[19:32] <daftykins> *2560x1600, which cable type?
[19:32] <ikonia> I'll be impressed of an on cpu display gpu can drive that display
[19:33] <daftykins> they've been capable of that for years, yes
[19:33] <doomlord_1> i've got that here for sure
[19:33] <doomlord_1> well, 2560x1440
[19:33] <ikonia> really, they will drive that sort of display ?
[19:33] <doomlord_1> yes, even 4k
[19:33] <ikonia> wow
[19:33] <doomlord_1> they wont redraw as fast as discrete GPUs
[19:33] <q_> how would I dpkg-reconfigure for all packages on 14.10 -- there doesn't seem to be an -all flag anymore
[19:33] <doomlord_1> but they can certainly drive the monitor
[19:34] <wlodpolm> http://superuser.com/questions/685452/trying-to-find-max-resolution-for-amd-card
[19:34] <daftykins> i think you have to go displayport for the truly high though, not sure how high dual-link DVI goes
[19:34] <doomlord_1> current intel iGPU can certainly do 3 monitors, and it can do 4k (i doubt it will do 3x4k though)
[19:34] <doomlord_1> yeah i think you need displayport for 4k
[19:34] <eikon81g> thanks so much to everyone who chipped in especially daftykins! I will continue along and WHEN I get stuck again I'll be back, have a great week everyone!
[19:34] <daftykins> eikon81g: enjoy :)
[19:34] <q_> I'm getting random crashes after recently installing 14.10 - never had that on this laptop before been using ubuntu for 2 years.  Where should I start ?
[19:35] <daftykins> q_: memtest
[19:35] <eikon81g> :) I removed the .30 kernal all by myself!! LOL :)
[19:35] <q_> daftykins, ahh yes, let me do that now
[19:36] <daftykins> heh, wonder if q knows it'll take hours
[19:36] <eikon81g> lol
[19:37] <fluvvell> lasko, where do I paste the screenshot?
[19:37] <daftykins> imgur.com
[19:41] <lasko> sorry, my bae-bae woke up and started crying.
[19:41] <frenda__> I have ping on both domains and dns when I'm contected via openVPN under udp config, but browsers can't open any page! I don't have at all any ping by TCP config!
[19:42] <frenda__> for example:
[19:42] <frenda__> ~$ ping -c4 torproject.org
[19:42] <frenda__> PING torproject.org (38.229.72.16) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:42] <frenda__> 64 bytes from aroides.torproject.org (38.229.72.16): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=312 ms
[19:43] <fluvvell> daftykins, Its pointless to share the screenshot, i'm on another computer now and have copied it across. It only shows the colour rotating pixes when viewed on the computer with the problem
[19:44] <daftykins> fluvvell: can you answer the other questions i had?
[19:45] <zenny> HI, the wireless works hell slow and the usb ports stop detecting devices after I ran apt-get dist-upgrde today in ubuntu 14.04. Both wireless and usb detection works fine from the windows in the same dual-boot laptop. Anyone experienced this. The laptop is HP Envy.
[19:45] <q_> daftykins, memtest passed - next step ?
[19:45] <daftykins> you did just one pass already?
[19:45] <lasko> frenda__: Issues related to your OpenVPN configuration would fall under consulting their documentation not Ubuntu.
[19:45] <daftykins> q_: ideally from a live session i would check the SMART data on the hard disk, if you have a mechanical one
[19:45] <q_> daftykins, yes
[19:46] <fujimuffins> hello
[19:46] <q_> hmm no SSD
[19:46] <daftykins> hi
[19:46] <fujimuffins> can u help me with something pls?
[19:46] <svetlana> ask
[19:46] <fluvvell> daftykins,           product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460  CPU @ 3.20GHz, yes its graphics on the motherboard
[19:46] <daftykins> ok so haswell
[19:46] <daftykins> nah, on processor
[19:46] <daftykins> and cable type?
[19:46] <fujimuffins> so im trying to dual boot ubuntu on my windows 7 computer
[19:47] <fujimuffins> and i've put the iso onto my usb stick
[19:47] <fujimuffins> but when i try to boot up ubuntu
[19:47] <daftykins> fujimuffins: you can press enter less you know, nice long sentences are great :)
[19:47] <fluvvell> daftykins, its a DVI cable which worked on the previous motherboard/graphics card i had working this monitor, so dual-link is fine.
[19:47] <daftykins> fluvvell: which ubuntu again?
[19:48] <fujimuffins> and switch my start up to my usb it freezes at this https://i.imgur.com/5MIh9YF.jpg
[19:48] <fujimuffins> oh sorry
[19:48] <daftykins> fujimuffins: oh dear you're running RAID.
[19:48] <fujimuffins> what does that mean?
[19:48] <fluvvell> daftykins, 14.04.2  - also on the "booted from iso" 14.10 exactly the same issues and effect.
[19:49] <daftykins> fujimuffins: you have two hard disks combined together in a striped RAID 0 array
[19:49] <fujimuffins> ok. what should i do?
[19:49] <daftykins> i don't think that's really going to be compatible, but it's not even getting as far as booting so your download may be corrupt or your flash drive may've not been created successfully
[19:50] <fluvvell> daftykins, out of the box I cant get the 2nd modeline to be available to the Display settings xrandr panel, I've needed to put in an .xprofile  file to achieve what I've got so far.
[19:50] <daftykins> fluvvell: hmm, try a 15.04 ISO - it's not out yet of course but it'll have a newer kernel. presumably you didn't try installing intel drivers?
[19:50] <AegNuddel> How do I move the on-screen keyboard?  I'm having to use it since my keyboard cord just went kaput, and there is no title bar with which to drag it.  I would also like to keep it on top, as the search screen covers it...
[19:51] <lasko> AegNuddel: Hold Alt
[19:51] <daftykins> hold alt and drag?
[19:51] <fluvvell> daftykins, I did, but no help. But having the same result in 14.04 and 14.10....  I  read that the intel drivers are the same as ubuntu are offereing anyway?
[19:51] <daftykins> fluvvell: yep, it annoys me when people start trying to install them as if it's Windows ;) just checking.
[19:52] <daftykins> fluvvell: well, assuming the cable is good i have no better ideas.
[19:52] <fluvvell> daftykins, lol sure - I get the same reaction
[19:52] <daftykins> having to set resolution manually is a bit of a bad sign
[19:52] <lasko> fluvvell: Does it happen under other resolutions?
[19:52] <fluvvell> daftykins, can I share my .xprofile for you to have a look at?
[19:52] <daftykins> does that screen only have DVI?
[19:52] <fluvvell> lasko, no
[19:52] <fluvvell> daftykins, yes
[19:52] <daftykins> it won't do any good, not familiar with the file
[19:52] <AegNuddel> I, uh, have, no keyboard daffykins
[19:53] <emsy2015> k1l_: are you here? :)
[19:53] <daftykins> AegNuddel: heh that's a fair point. ah well, no idea.
[19:53] <fluvvell> daftykins, its a bunch of xrandr statements I think
[19:53] <daftykins> maybe your mode isn't quite what the display wants?
[19:53] <daftykins> i'd dig into the /var/log/Xorg.0.log i think
[19:53] <lasko> AegNuddel: Using your mouse -- Click the Alt button -- and while still holding it, attempt to drag
[19:53] <emsy2015> mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[19:53] <emsy2015> how to fix it guys?
[19:54] <fluvvell> http://pastebin.com/k8nYfhWR
[19:55] <chartractegg> hello
[19:55] <chartractegg> I'm a noob and i'm in trouble
[19:55] <chartractegg> anyone there
[19:55] <emsy2015> can anyone link yesterday's chat history?
[19:55] <ikonia> !logs | emsy2015
[19:55] <daftykins> chartractegg: phrase a question with detail on one line
[19:55] <chartractegg> I'm on a Macintosh and I wanted to dual boot to Ubuntu, it's replaced my Mac partition though :(
[19:55] <daftykins> fluvvell: HDMI? are you using an adapter?
[19:56] <daftykins> chartractegg: oh dear.
[19:56] <emsy2015> ikonia: thank you!
[19:56] <svetlana> chartractegg: hopefully you still have the mac install cd and some more attention to the ubuntu installer?
[19:56] <chartractegg> daftykins: i'm a noob, but not terribly. I can figure it out..
[19:56] <Nikesh> How do I add a program to the Unity launcher?
[19:56] <svetlana> right click it
[19:56] <chartractegg> Apple doesn't ship DVD restores anymore, it's hidden in the hard disk
[19:57] <svetlana> use that then
[19:57] <svetlana> #macosx channel is here
[19:57] <chartractegg> i may have deleted the recovery partition though
[19:57] <chartractegg> LOL
[19:57] <daftykins> no that's just a recovery partition, it doesn't have the whole OS - it pulls it down from online
[19:57] <ikonia> chartractegg: you can also download from itunes
[19:57] <lasko> ouch
[19:57] <bynarie> when i boot up, i get this message before X starts up - usb 3-11: string descriptor 0 malformed (err = -61), defaulting to 0x0409
[19:57] <Nikesh> svetlana: when i right click, it goes to showing reviews and launch option
[19:57] <lasko> chartractegg: reboot your machine and hold Command+R during startup
[19:57] <svetlana> alt+right click, then
[19:57] <lasko> chartractegg: It'll bring you to the recovery
[19:57] <chartractegg> daftykins: I went to apple store other day, to restore mac os, i fucked this up before, and they can restore at apple store way faster
[19:58] <jhutchins> chartractegg: It's still possible to get a copy of a restore/install image from apple.  They probably charge for it.
[19:58] <ikonia> chartractegg: tone down the language
[19:58] <daftykins> language, please.
[19:58] <ikonia> there is no need for it
[19:58] <chartractegg> lasko: I know about the boot key commands
[19:58] <emsy2015> ikonia: can you please tell what name is for this server?
[19:58] <chartractegg> apologies for language
[19:58] <svetlana> Nikesh: (or shoot these unity developers and documentation people to the moon if it doesn't have a help button)
[19:58] <ikonia> emsy2015: which server ?
[19:58] <daftykins> chartractegg: so what are you actually after?
[19:58] <lasko> chartractegg: If you can get into Recovery then you havent overwritten recovery
[19:58] <fluvvell> daftykins, and it's more freaky that after a while it goes black but a shift to tty1 and back to the graphics screen brings it back
[19:58] <emsy2015> ikonia: in irclogs there are a lot of servers
[19:58] <ikonia> emsy2015: no, they are channels
[19:59] <ikonia> emsy2015: this channel is called #ubuntu
[19:59] <Nikesh> svetlana: alt+right click shows menu for background window (like minimise, show it all desktops, and so on)
[19:59] <chartractegg> daftykins: what do you mean "what am I actually after"
[19:59] <svetlana> i dislike the fact that i have to open a web browser in order to find docs for unity
[19:59] <ikonia> chartractegg: what do you want from this channel ?
[19:59] <svetlana> there should be an offline way
[19:59] <emsy2015> ikonia: but there are tonns of #ubuntu
[19:59] <daftykins> chartractegg: what do you want help with?
[19:59] <ikonia> emsy2015: no there isn't, there is 1
[20:00] <emsy2015> ikonia: ubuntu.html or .txt?
[20:00] <chartractegg> right sorry, I'm not sure I want anything, or help with much of anything
[20:00] <bynarie> daftykins, u know what this means -> usb 3-11: string descriptor 0 malformed (err = -61), defaulting to 0x0409
[20:00] <daftykins> chartractegg: well this is a support channel, so there's no point being here :)
[20:00] <ikonia> emsy2015: text formatting or html format, up to you
[20:00] <lasko> chartractegg: Like I said, if you reboot into Recovery mode (then thats proof you didn't over write your recovery) -- in which case you should be able to click "Reinstall OS" in that menu. -- thats about the best advice you'll get from anyone lol
[20:00] <baastrup> I need help installing a 3d party wifi usb dongle driver
[20:00] <daftykins> bynarie: looks like a device in a USB port not speaking the right language.
[20:00] <baastrup> http://www.edimax.com/edimax/download/download/data/edimax/global/download/for_home/wireless_adapters/wireless_adapters_ac450/ew-7711ulc
[20:01] <chartractegg> when I go to install ubuntu, it said "You have a Windows 7 partition on here. Want to install Ubuntu over windows partition?"
[20:01] <bynarie> daftykins, ok.. do you know of anything I could do to get more info/diagnose the problem?
[20:01] <AegNuddel> What does it mean when a key on the on-screen keyboard turns red?
[20:01] <chartractegg> I said I wanted to install Ubuntu over the Windows 7 partition ( 25GB out of 500GB HDD)
[20:01] <daftykins> bynarie: not since i don't have a clue what you're doing no, and please ask the channel in future, don't pick on individual users :)
[20:01] <emsy2015> ikonia: I love you, man! No homo though
[20:01] <lasko> chartractegg: Do you want to keep windows or no? Are you trying to dual-boot windows / Ubuntu
[20:01] <chartractegg> i love you all
[20:01] <svetlana> baastrup: find another wifi dongle - if this stuff is non-free and has no source released, it may contain a backdoor
[20:01] <ikonia> emsy2015: don't make stupid homophobic comments please, "thank you" is how you thank someone
[20:01] <chartractegg> lasko: trying to dual boot Mac OS X and Ubuntu
[20:01] <bynarie> yea sorry bout that.. i just knew you were pretty knowledgeable daftykins
[20:02] <bynarie> the error message appears while booting up, right before X starts up
[20:02] <RootKit> Hello!
[20:02] <lasko> chartractegg: One sec, i'll get you the link you need
[20:02] <emsy2015> ikonia: I said no homo lol. That means the biggest thanks to you. Don't be rude :)
[20:02] <daftykins> chartractegg: go get yourself a flash drive of OS X made up. if you want both you are not going to be able to get it back on there with us, in ubuntu
[20:02] <ikonia> emsy2015: "thank you" is how you thank someone rather than stupid sexual comments
[20:03] <bynarie> now we have to say thank you a special way?
[20:03] <bynarie> u guys are cock suckers
[20:03] <chartractegg> daftykins: can you clarify "if you want both.... in ubuntu" ?
[20:03] <emsy2015> ikonia: don't write like a robot. :)
[20:03] <chartractegg> bynarie: chill out
[20:04] <lasko> chartractegg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/MacOSX   -- At the bottom of that page there is a Link for AppleIntelInstallation
[20:04] <ikonia> emsy2015: don't make stupid comments then
[20:04] <daftykins> chartractegg: i think you're just timewasting here. if you want OS X back... working... you're going to need to reinstall it.
[20:04] <SomeT> hi, I have a problem, my university are making us study linux by studying VMWare or something to run Ubuntu
[20:04] <AegNuddel> oh lol there's a button to move it in full mode
[20:04] <chartractegg> daftykins: you're right. thank you for your help
[20:04] <chartractegg> peace be with you all
[20:04] <daftykins> SomeT: right, sounds simple.
[20:04] <chartractegg> bye all!
[20:04] <lasko> SomeT: And how can we help you
[20:04] <emsy2015> ikonia: ok, sorry!
[20:04] <bynarie|> hey ikonia your a cock sucker too
[20:04] <SomeT> I am finding a lot of us having problems running, it not having tried myself, just wondering is even installing it this way a good idea generally?
[20:04] <RootKit> Anyone know which is the best unofficial kernel for laptos!
[20:05] <bynarie|> cock sucker
[20:05] <SomeT> to me it sounds easy
[20:05] <daftykins> SomeT: yes it's fine and easy.
[20:05] <lasko> whoa
[20:05] <SomeT> just trying to understand why so many people are having troublee
[20:05] <ikonia> RootKit: use official kernels
[20:05] <SomeT> e.g. drives not mounting
[20:05] <Winthrop> lol dat ban
[20:05] <daftykins> SomeT: the people with the troubles should be the one asking, you can't provide us logs of their issues so there's no way to help.
[20:06] <SomeT> I know, but it just bugs me, haha
[20:06] <SomeT> anyway my question was a bit general
[20:06] <daftykins> SomeT: yes, plus it also insinuates ubuntu is to blame and not vmware issues
[20:07] <daftykins> there's always virtualbox too of course
[20:07] <ikonia> or user error
[20:07] <daftykins> yep, that too
[20:07] <lasko> Virtualbox > VMWare IMO lol easier to use and less hassle
[20:07] <ikonia> try actually doing your task and asking for help when you need it
[20:07] <daftykins> lasko: no point expressing personal opinion.
[20:07] <eikon81g> lol
[20:07] <RootKit> ikonia: Thanks... But official kernels are very unresponsive without patches! I want something very  responsive!!
[20:07] <ikonia> RootKit: they are not
[20:07] <SomeT> I plan to do in 2 hours ;)
[20:07] <ikonia> RootKit: they are excellent
[20:07] <daftykins> lol unresponsive kernels, typical Linux ricer generation
[20:08] <ikonia> RootKit: we only support official kernels here, so this isn't the right channel
[20:08] <lasko> daftykins: Well ok.
[20:10] <RootKit> ikonia: whats wrong with unofficial kernel! I remove unity and and some other resource hungry shits! compiled kernel 4.0 with specific driver for my hardware.. using fluxbox ,no DEs.. But ubuntu still feels slow!
[20:10] <ikonia> RootKit: tone down the language, there is no need for it
[20:11] <ikonia> RootKit: if you've made all the changes you say you've made - it's no longer ubuntu
[20:11] <ikonia> RootKit: so I suggest you support your own customized distro
[20:11] <kryptonradon> can I upgrade 14.04 to 14.10 in place?
[20:11] <k1l_> RootKit: the problem is, we dont know if "stuff" doesnt work because its your custom kernels fault or if its a general ubuntu issue then
[20:11] <ikonia> kryptonradon: yes, it will need a reboot though
[20:11] <ikonia> !upgrade | kryptonradon
[20:11] <kryptonradon> thanks
[20:11] <k1l_> kryptonradon: yes run the update-manager but keep in mind that you need to upgrade every 6 months then
[20:12] <kryptonradon> I keep needing to install things that don't get updated to the newer version
[20:12] <ikonia> kryptonradon: be careful, very few people "need" newer versions than the versions shipped with the distro
[20:13] <kryptonradon> I'm using blender addons that need 2.71 and 14.04 has 2.69
[20:13] <RootKit> ikonia: and k1l_: well then ! I have to leave ubuntu! damn!  I guess have to build everything from the scratch!
[20:13] <ikonia> RootKit: bye
[20:14] <k1l_> RootKit: you are on your own with that custom kernels on most distros anyway.
[20:14] <RootKit> k1l_: hmm!
[20:15] <q_> kill him!
[20:15] <q_> kill  him!
[20:15] <fluvvell> since when has unity been in the kernel?
[20:15] <ikonia> fluvvell: it's not
[20:15] <jhutchins> !lfs
[20:15] <ikonia> and LFS won't help with that either
[20:15] <ikonia> so pointing at lfs won't help
[20:16] <jhutchins> He should be running gentoo.
[20:16] <q_> k1l_: hmm! , I was refering to what RootKit typed and what it looked like
[20:16] <nash> hi guys I have a strange freeze after login. If I switch on tty1 I get a I/O error. What can I check? I am running smartctl to see if it's a hdd failure... I created another user and it works, it's just stuck after login
[20:16] <RootKit> q_ : you are funny ..lol
[20:17] <RootKit> jhutchins: who should be runnin gentoo?
[20:17] <k1l_> someone know what .wmz files are and how to open that?
[20:17] <emsy2015> hey, guys. I had the problem with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[20:17] <emsy2015> hey, k1l_
[20:17] <zatan> hi how can I let access directory to users who is certain group ?
[20:18] <genii> k1l_: Unzip it to wmf and use some media player
[20:18] <RootKit> ikonia: bye! sir/mam
[20:18] <ikonia> bye
[20:18] <emsy2015> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10505937/
[20:18] <nash> both /home and .xauthority belong to the correct user
[20:19] <k1l_> genii: archiv fileroller thingy from unity got their issues with it. "archive type is not supported"
[20:19] <genii> emsy2015: You cannot unmount a directory if you have cd into it.
[20:20] <genii> emsy2015: do something like just:  cd      first then unmount
[20:20] <mina1> quit
[20:20] <RootKit> Hey! I have nuttin' to say, yo! lol... What am I doin here?!
[20:20] <daftykins> RootKit: please take it elsewhere.
[20:21] <emsy2015> genii: the same problem
[20:22] <RootKit> well.. I should join a dating channel.. suggest me some channel names! i dont know how to search for channel in weechat !
[20:22] <k1l_> !alis | RootKit
[20:23] <fluvvell> daftykins, sorry I got caught on a phone call - you asked me HDMI - I can't see whether I replied - its DVI  Dual-link cable which worked on a previous hardware set.
[20:23] <genii> emsy2015: Pastebin please
[20:23] <emsy2015> genii, what will happen if I'll try to unmount it manually, because the /mnt is on locker
[20:23] <RootKit> k1l_: thank you, man
[20:23] <genii> emsy2015: Trying to unmount it manually is what you've been doing.
[20:23] <fluvvell> daftykins, ikonia,   my .xprofile is  http://pastebin.com/k8nYfhWR
[20:24] <fluvvell> sorry couldn't remember who replied last :-S
[20:24] <RootKit> ubottu: thankkkkkkkz
[20:24] <emsy2015> genii, I  meant by clicking the right click on mouse and choosing "unmount"
[20:24]  * genii consider a lecture on running as root and then trying to use suso while in root prompt, then says "screw it" and goes back to work
[20:24] <elitewarfare> Can u install ubuntu on an early 2008 macbook pro laptop MB134LL/A
[20:24] <ikonia> elitewarfare: yes
[20:25] <elitewarfare> thank you
[20:26] <daftykins> fluvvell: so you're not using some kind of HDMI to DVI dongle? 'cause it's odd you'd be setting HDMI modes 0o
[20:27] <fluvvell> daftykins, ABSOLUTELY no dongle or even an adapter. DVI - DVI cable. Yes, I saw that - but thats what xrandr reports the DVI port as.
[20:30] <fluvvell> daftykins, of course I keep going back to the statement somebody made that hdmi and dvi were electrically compatible with the exception of the audio
[20:30] <fluvvell> i may be wrong I guess
[20:30] <nash> hi guys I have a strange freeze after login. If I switch on tty1 I get a I/O error. What can I check? I am running smartctl to see if it's a hdd failure... I created another user and it works, it's just stuck after login
[20:31] <RootKit> ubottu: I did forget how to search for channel! can you plz repeat how to .......
[20:33] <wamicho> daftykins, i did a fresh install , i am just waiting for it to upgrade what should be the best way to install the nvidia driver so it can work ..?
[20:34] <daftykins> !hybrid
[20:34] <daftykins> hmm
[20:34] <daftykins> wamicho: just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime" i think
[20:35] <wamicho> daftykins, did that before it did not work or should i just download from the nvidia page and install it ?
[20:36] <daftykins> wamicho: that'll be a guaranteed failure if you tried that :)
[20:36] <daftykins> i honestly don't know, you should do more research on your model of system because i was out of ideas earlier
[20:37] <wamicho> daftykins, ok thanks a lot ..
[20:43] <lattera> so I have a process (vlc) that's not dying with kill -KILL
[20:43] <lattera> what's the best way to kill it?
[20:44] <bindi> kill -9 as root?
[20:44] <dipooots> kill -9 `pidof vlc`
[20:44] <dipooots> or killall -UNUSED vlc
[20:44] <lattera> still no go
[20:45] <burkmat> Reboot.
[20:45] <lattera> now it's listed in ps as: vlc <defunct>
[20:45] <dipooots> then it's a zombie process, sadly I don't think you can kill it without a reboot if it doesn't respond to those
[20:46] <DasEi> lattera: sudo killall vlc  doesn't work ? no frozen system ? use htop to look for Pid's
[20:46] <dipooots> yea that too, check pid manually in case there's two or whatever
[20:47] <lattera> nope, just a single process, PID 6308
[20:47] <lattera> gonna have to reboot :/
[20:47] <dipooots> kill 6308, i do it a few times until it tells me no such pid
[20:49] <DasEi> lattera: sudo kill -9 -1 6308  (f.e) ?
[20:51] <DasEi> lattera: does htop shows suspicous loads on another PID ?
[20:53] <lattera> no clue... just rebooted
[20:57] <emsy2015> hello guys. once again how to see chat history  from this chat?
[20:57] <therealfakemoot> So I recently upgraded to 10.14 but I'm having trouble installing steam. `sudo apt-get install steam` produces the following output https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/a78edea623954e2ce767
[20:57] <k1l_> !logs | emsy2015
[20:57] <emsy2015> thank you
[20:57] <daftykins> 10.14 isn't a real release (:
[20:57] <therealfakemoot> er
[20:57] <therealfakemoot> right
[20:57] <therealfakemoot> 14.10
[20:59] <Whitor> emsy2015, It depends on your IRC client
[20:59] <burkmat> !lts
[20:59] <emsy2015> whitor, I already found what I had to find, thank you :)
[20:59] <Whitor> I'm using 14.04 and love it
[21:00] <Whitor> emsy2015, great!
[21:00] <burkmat> !LFS
[21:00] <emsy2015> whitor, anyway, could you help me please?
[21:00] <burkmat> Shouldn't the bot be updated re versioning on LFS / LTS?
[21:01] <Whitor> I don't know why anyone (especially a new user) would use an experimental version of Ubuntu. My guess is they don't really know that non LTS versions /are/ less supported..
[21:01] <emsy2015> Whitor, I removed all my kernels, so I tried to recover it after this thread. http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[21:02] <OerHeks> burkmat, no, why is it confusing for you?
[21:02] <emsy2015> Whitor, when I did the last step (reboot) I had black screen with an error: missing models
[21:02] <Whitor> Also... experienced users using Ubuntu in a professional production environment Shouldn't even consider using a non LTS version.
[21:04] <daftykins> Whitor: i think new users impatiently rush through the download page on the site and don't read... because that was one of the first lessons i learnt
[21:04] <Whitor> emsy2015, sounds like a fun project!  I hope might consider re-installing on a different machine and moving your data ex-post-facto
[21:05] <Whitor> daftykins, yeah... I think this should be emphasized on the download page... Perhaps make people dig a little bit to get the latest (non LTS) versions... BTW I'm anxious to see whats in 16.04!
[21:05] <bcowan> boot to a livecd/usb and chroot
[21:05] <emsy2015> whitor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10506460/
[21:05] <daftykins> well, you'll be waiting a while. general chat however is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:05] <burkmat> OerHeks: Maybe I'm misreading it, but the bot seems to be saying the latest LTSs are 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04?
[21:05] <daftykins> current LTS is 12.04.5 and 14.04.2
[21:06] <burkmat> Yeah. So...
[21:06] <burkmat> !LFS
[21:06] <OerHeks> burkmat, last part says different.
[21:07] <k1l_> burkmat: for bot suggestions please do that in #ubuntu-irc :)
[21:07] <burkmat> k1l_: Ok, will do. Just wanted to check that I'm not retarded and/or crazy. :D
[21:09] <DasEi> burkmat: also you can PM ubott.. to play with it
[21:10] <emsy2015> guys, what to do if the kernel is newer than system and kernel modules?
[21:10] <daftykins> emsy2015: what do you mean?
[21:10] <emsy2015> I've booted from live cd
[21:10] <emsy2015> on live cd I have 14.04 but on my hdd I have 14.10
[21:10] <daftykins> !enter
[21:11] <daftykins> argh who keeps deleting every factoid
[21:11] <k1l_> emsy2015: for the chroot that doesnt matter
[21:11] <jhutchins> daftykins: ubottu is not as well trained as dpkg.
[21:11] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Which video/graphics drivers are you using?
[21:11] <emsy2015> k1l_ when I rebooted I had a black screen telling that I miss some modules
[21:11] <daftykins> jhutchins: i'll assume that's an attempt at humour 0o
[21:12] <k1l_> emsy2015: make sure you installed the kernel headers mathcing your kernel
[21:12] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Pretty sure it's the closed source nvidia one but I'm gonna have to look and double check.
[21:12] <Whitor> emsy2015, thanks for the  pastebin.  heh, I still might have been lazy and re-installed. With ubuntu, it's so freaking easy.   I grew up with slackware... I've done my share of kernel / module compiling... I remember when nearly every app had to be compiled
[21:12] <Whitor> I've had enough of it
[21:12] <jhutchins> emsy2015: What are you truing to do?
[21:13] <emsy2015> k1l_ how to do that?
[21:13] <Whitor> Personally I'd rather spend my extra time with my kids... not researching how to rebuild my kernel.. Oh how times have changed :(      :)
[21:13] <emsy2015> whitor: I'll lose all my filed wouldn't I?
[21:13] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: "NVIDIA Binary driver - version 331.113 from nvidia-311-updates"
[21:13] <k1l_> emsy2015: boot that system or chroot into it from a live cd and make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[21:14] <emsy2015> jhutchins: trying  to recover my system
[21:14] <Whitor> emsy2015, only if you overwrite your HD ... use another HD
[21:14] <k1l_> emsy2015: but if you installed the video driver from some website then you need to reinstall it again
[21:14] <Whitor> emsy2015, then take your existing HD and put it into an external USB reader...  copy your home dir off and you are all set!
[21:15] <bcowan> so much easier just to chroot in and install kernel/headers
[21:16] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: So, I haven't dealt with the video driver options for a while since I switched to a machine with integrated graphics. But the message you pasted basically indicates that steam is saying it needs some of the open-source software around in order to install. Usually, when I've seen a message like this, it's because the software I want to install needs a particular version
[21:16] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Interesting. I can try switching over
[21:16] <MoPac> ... but some other existing software needs a different version, so the new software can't install
[21:16] <nash> hi guys I have a strange freeze after login. If I switch on tty1 I get a I/O error. Here is my smartmontools log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10506563/  what can I check more??
[21:16] <emsy2015> whitor, if I had another hd
[21:16] <therealfakemoot> We'll see if noveau can resolve this
[21:17] <MoPac> However, in the case of the video drivers, I wonder if having the option set to non-free might be telling the system not to install the free ones? I don't know exactly how much pull that option has in apt
[21:17] <emsy2015> k1l, haven't installed anything, only one kernel
[21:17] <MoPac> Well, one other thing though
[21:17] <emsy2015> with apt-get install linux-image-generic
[21:17] <k1l_> emsy2015: there is the issue. i told you several times to install the "linux-generic" since it installs the headers automatically
[21:17] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: I wonder if you can install those mesa packages without actually switching your preference from nvidia to nouveau?  Have you tried just doing "apt-get install [packagename that it said wasn't installf for steam]"?
[21:18] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: yup
[21:18] <Whitor> emsy2015, good point..
[21:18] <k1l_> emsy2015: "linux-image..." is only the kernel, but not the headers. for building modules you need the headers
[21:18] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: no dice. apt wouldn't install them
[21:18] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: What's the error you get when you try?
[21:18] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: the lock is currently being held by the switch from closed source to novaeu drivers
[21:18] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: I'll have to reproduce it in a second
[21:19] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: sure, no problem
[21:20] <emsy2015> Whitor, too big physical effort. I prefer fixing it with codes
[21:20] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: I'm probably overly skittish about switching back and forth between nvidia and nouveau drivers because doing that used to cause all kinds of problems on my old system [shudders]. Hopefully those are more rare now, though
[21:21] <Whitor> I thought everyone had piles of HD's kicking around...  Perks of working in IT
[21:21] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Yeah. I switched from Noveau to the closed source ones when a KSP update got all buggy. I saw a massive performance increase from it
[21:21] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: and uh, the 'software center' threw an error about ack-grep while I was trying to change over. So it...didn't?
[21:22] <therealfakemoot> ugh.
[21:22] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: okay, well, it might not be necessary to swtich over. Let's see what happend when you try just apt-get install-ing the two packages that held up your steam installation
[21:22] <emsy2015> k1l: so I have apt-get install linux-generic , right?
[21:22] <emsy2015> * I have to
[21:23] <k1l_> emsy2015: right.
[21:23] <k1l_> emsy2015: you could try if you can boot into the recovery in the grub.
[21:23] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: So, as it turns out, I can install libgl1-mesa-dri OR libgl1-mesa-glx.
[21:23] <therealfakemoot> which would require the remove of nvidia-updates-331
[21:24] <emsy2015> k1l, but I had some error... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10506647/
[21:24] <k1l_> emsy2015: what was the command?
[21:25] <therealfakemoot> Not sure what the difference between dri and glx is, unfortunately
[21:25] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Are you seeing the same thing that these people saw a while back, or is it different? - https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2800
[21:25] <emsy2015> k1l_ : apt-get install linux-generic
[21:25] <k1l_> in recovery?
[21:25] <emsy2015> k1l, in chroot
[21:26] <k1l_> emsy2015: then you did something wrong since the filesystem is read-only.
[21:26] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Similar, but I can't say for sure.
[21:26] <k1l_> emsy2015: so i bet you did again not setup the chroot properly and are still on the live-ubuntu system and not in the chroot
[21:26] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: I have a vague recollection about the ia32 libs business helping me out with something similar. Let me know if this helps you https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2800#issuecomment-74045352
[21:27] <k1l_> emsy2015: seeing 3.13 kernel i am sure you are not in chroot.
[21:27] <emsy2015> k1l: root@ubuntu:/#
[21:27] <k1l_> emsy2015: no
[21:27] <k1l_> emsy2015: that is the live-system from cd or usb. not the installed one. so get your chroot set up properly.
[21:28] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Augh, https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[21:28] <emsy2015> k1l I did chroot in /media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d/boot"
[21:28] <emsy2015> with sudo chroot /media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d/boot"
[21:29] <k1l_> emsy2015: no no no no no.
[21:29] <emsy2015> without boot at the end lol
[21:29] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Yeah, I'm having deja vu -- I was right where you are. I know it ended up working, though. At the moment, are you still on nvidia?
[21:29] <k1l_> emsy2015: start over again from the beginning after unmounting all first.
[21:29] <Alxx> g
[21:29] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Correct.
[21:29] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: And at the moment, do you have broken packages, or is it all working (just can't install steam)?
[21:30] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: I may have broken packages. I'm not sure how to check
[21:30] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: try apt-get install -f
[21:31] <therealfakemoot> Same error message.
[21:31] <therealfakemoot> exit status 8
[21:31] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: okay, first let's try to just get back to working nvidia like you had before. manually apt-get remove the mesa package you were trying
[21:32] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: That's the issue: it isn't installed and for one reason or another apt can't resolve the dependency
[21:32] <therealfakemoot> I think.
[21:33] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: well, it might work to just reinstall nvidia-331-updates -- that may remove the mesa package and make it stop caring that the mesa package didn't install correctly
[21:33] <therealfakemoot> Good call, trying that now
[21:34] <nk121> Hi #ubuntu, I'm looking to capture audio in a headless EC2 server (14.04), but i'm having trouble getting alsa and snd-dummy working. Does anyone know how to accomplish this with 14.04?
[21:34] <nk121> i've installed libasound2-dev alsa-utils alsa-oss alsa-base     but there is no snd-dummy module to be found (although there is a snd-seq-dummy, which appears to be midi related)
[21:35] <crushoverride> hello
[21:35] <therealfakemoot>  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')
[21:35] <therealfakemoot> lookit that
[21:35] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: paste?
[21:35] <therealfakemoot> Yeah, one sec
[21:36] <therealfakemoot> https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[21:37] <night_girl> hello i currently have this ubuntu: 2.6.35-27-generic #47-Ubuntu, what is the best way to update to the latest?
[21:37] <DasEi> therealfakemoot: try (first hand followed by --dry-run for a testride) to remove --purge complaining packages unti pt-get  updates runs fine (--fix-missing you oc already tried?)
[21:37] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: hmm. Try opening the software center GUI, at the third-party drivers tab -- see what it says there
[21:38] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: DasEi: Ahh right, I neglected to mention --purge
[21:39] <MoPac> night_girl: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:39] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: (all as root) apt-get update --dry-run              < result ?
[21:40] <night_girl> Release:        10.10 Codename:       maverick
[21:40] <nesretep> Anyone have any experience with kickstart installs on Ubuntu using PXE boot?
[21:40] <nk121> I guess noone is familliar with alsa/snd-dummy
[21:41] <bcowan> nk121, if you wouldnt insult them calling them dummy
[21:41] <nesretep> Anyone have any experience with kickstart installs on Ubuntu using PXE boot?
[21:41] <nk121> bcowan: the only dummy i think is me! :)
[21:41] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: update doesn't recognize --dry-run, apparently.
[21:42] <therealfakemoot> https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[21:42] <therealfakemoot> and I've updated the gist
[21:42] <poli> hi
[21:42] <DasEi> nesretep: no, but interestin attempt, you'll need kickstart on the pxe box, just try... hehe
[21:42] <therealfakemoot> I can't remove the package, or install over it.
[21:42] <MoPac> night_girl: Are you wanting to upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu or just to update your kernel version?
[21:42] <nesretep> I have gotten to the point where teh box PXE boots, then starts teh install but then d-i won't recognize the NIC
[21:42] <DasEi> therealfakemoot::so apt faills with a complaint about a certain package ?
[21:43] <night_girl> I just want the latest of everything
[21:43] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: Yes. nvidia-331-updates is half-installed
[21:43] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: So apparently, that means I'm not allowed to remove OR install it anymore
[21:43] <night_girl> and the flawless way of doing this that will work without issues
[21:43] <nesretep> Not sure why it doesn't reconize it during the autoinstall.  It works fine installing from DVD
[21:44] <DasEi> therealfakemoot::apt-get update --fix-missing   < result ?
[21:45] <MoPac> night_girl: I'm not sure whether an in-place upgrade from 10.10 to 14.10 can be guaranteed to work flawlessly with no issues.  Can you go into your software and updates program and see what the settings are there?
[21:45] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: it fetches a bunch of repo info and exits 0
[21:45] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: No actions
[21:46] <DasEi> therealfakemoot::dpkg-reconfigure  darnPackage  < result?
[21:46] <DasEi> dpkg*
[21:47] <therealfakemoot> er, I have to install the debconf package before I will have dpkg-reconfigure
[21:47] <therealfakemoot> and trying to install it failed, because nvidia-331-updates is in a broken state
[21:47] <night_girl> the screen shows me that it can update to 11.10 only
[21:47] <DasEi> dpkg-reconfigure  <so
[21:47] <night_girl> in updates
[21:48] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: dpkg-reconfigure  darnPackage  < result?
[21:48] <therealfakemoot> durrr
[21:48] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: DasEi: Is there anything preventing him from remove --purge-ing both the proprietary and the non-proprietry drivers and then reinstalling? (Assuming he doesn't shut down and end up with just a terminal...)
[21:48] <MoPac> s/him/him or her
[21:48] <DasEi> MoPac: I just try to single it out before killing aa bunch of intact ones, too (dependencies)
[21:49] <nesretep> Should I be in a different channel if I need help with something like a PXEboot kickstart install?  It doesn't seem like anyone has any knowledge in this area here.
[21:49] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[21:50] <frew> anyone have ideas on how to configure apparmor?
[21:50] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: apt-get remove darnPackage --dry-run   <result ?
[21:50] <MoPac> night_girl: Okay, so just to be sure, you have a lot of documents and settings and such on this computer, and you want to try to preserve everything, right? Even if it takes longer, you don't want to just back up your files and install the latest version -- am I reading that right?
[21:51] <night_girl> no you are wrong
[21:51] <emsy2015> k1l_: I did everything from the beginning what should I do now?
[21:51] <k1l_> night_girl: your ubuntu version is dead since years now. so better to install an actual 14.04
[21:51] <night_girl> ;p sorry to say
[21:51] <emsy2015> where do I have to chroot in?
[21:51] <MoPac> night_girl: ahhh no don't be sorry, that makes everything a lot easier.
[21:51] <DasEi> frew: I'm quite busy atm, many good tuts on te net and in the forum, simple question ask, it's got a record mode where it learns and so forms it's shield
[21:51] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[21:51] <k1l_> emsy2015: same thing you did all the days.
[21:52] <night_girl> I have backed up the 3 files I had in my ubuntu cause to be honest i wanst using it, but its time to take out the dust out from my ubuntu and stop using that piece of shit called windows
[21:52] <MoPac> night_girl: The best way to do this from a version that old (anyone feel free to correct me here) is just to reinstall the whole OS.
[21:52] <frew> DasEi: I couldn't figure out how to phrase my question, but basically I need to allow ptrace in a docker container
[21:52] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: apt-get remove --purge darnPackage    <result ?
[21:52] <MoPac> night_girl: Is this a dedicated Ubuntu computer or a dual-boot one with both Ubuntu and Windows?
[21:52] <emsy2015> k1l_: like that ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d$ sudo chroot /media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d/
[21:52] <night_girl> dual boot
[21:52] <k1l_> night_girl: since we know you dont upgrade that often go with the 14.04 that got 5 years support time.
[21:53] <k1l_> night_girl: if you install 14.10 you need to upgrade every 6 months
[21:53] <night_girl> oh seriously?
[21:53] <MoPac> night_girl: Do you want to keep it dual boot, or do you want to have it just running Ubuntu at the end?
[21:53] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[21:53] <night_girl> dual boot
[21:53] <night_girl> can u explain me more about that 14.10 vs 14.04 thingie?
[21:54] <k1l_> emsy2015: please re read the same discussion we had several times a day the last days. its still the same. and male sure you mount all right
[21:54] <wamicho> daftykins, i think i might be successfull now
[21:54] <MoPac> night_girl: Re upgrading every six months, you'll get different opinions, but in my experience it's really not a big deal
[21:54] <k1l_> !lts | night_girl
[21:54] <night_girl> normally i wish tu upgrade but Im just an average user who never ends up finish her job, so has even less time to upgrade and solve problems in ubuntu! i cant even get enough to finish my own daily life work!
[21:54] <night_girl> if you understand me?
[21:54] <k1l_> MoPac: but you cant stay on 14.10. since its dead after 9 months after 14.10 release. and a user that is still on 10.10 is known to be not upgrade-happy.
[21:55] <MoPac> k1l_: Read her situation, though. She didn't upgrade for so long because she actually wasn't using it as her primary OS; it was just sitting there and she was really using Windows.
[21:55] <k1l_> night_girl: so install the 14.04. then you can make one LTS_upgrade to 16.04 when that is released.
[21:56] <k1l_> MoPac: trust me. you will see that user again in 3 years, still on 14.10 and wonder why she didnt install 14.04 in the first place.
[21:56] <wamicho> daftykins, not really after rebooting everything went back to be the same
[21:56] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: kill 1681 <result ? or do a lsof before, to see what's locking it, else try from safemode
[21:56] <k1l_> MoPac: that is a common thing in here. if they decide to go non-LTS the can upgrade. but to got LTS from 14.10 is not possible
[21:57] <k1l_> (besides upgrade every 6 months until 16.04)
[21:57] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: oh my gosh, how did I miss that :|
[21:57] <MoPac> night_girl: Whether you choose 14.04 or 14.10, I think the easiest thing to do is to install it over again rather than upgrade in place, but the thing to check on first is makign sure that the dual boot setup doesn't get too mangled
[21:57] <night_girl> when was 14.04 releseased, when was 14.10, when will 16.04
[21:57] <night_girl> what do i miss if i dont upgrade every 6 months?
[21:58] <MoPac> night_girl: They refer to years and months: 14.04 = April 2014
[21:58] <k1l_> night_girl: they are named after YEAR.MONTH
[21:58] <centric> hello all
[21:58] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: There we go. Now I can remove --purge the bad package and I should be in the clear.
[21:58] <k1l_> night_girl: please read the wiki page about LTS the bot linked you. it explaines it
[21:58] <night_girl> all right but there wasnt no link in there
[21:59] <k1l_> night_girl: sorry, it didnt linkthe page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[21:59] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade < tell if packages are still hold back after that line
[21:59] <night_girl> all right ill choose one version have to htink about it a bit
[21:59] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: none held back
[22:00] <daftykins> night_girl: 14.04.2, nothing to think about :)
[22:00] <night_girl> can I just install on top of my current ubuntu using my external hard drive etc?
[22:00] <therealfakemoot> But I'm still unable to install steam
[22:00] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Now that you're in the clear, try installing ia32-libs
[22:00] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323 still at square 1
[22:00] <MoPac> night_girl: The complication that you might run into is the dual boot thing
[22:01] <k1l_> night_girl: if you install 14.10 you cant use it longer than 9 months, since after that 9 month all updates are shut down. so you need to upgrade to 15.04 then.  etc etc. so not to run into the same issue like you know have with that 10.10
[22:01] <zteam> night_girl, I you want a stable build you should choose, 14,04 only upgrade if you encounter any issues :-)
[22:01] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323 see the second file in the gist for my attempt to install ia32-libs
[22:01] <night_girl> all right, i will isntall 14.04 this time to start slowly
[22:02] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: at the risk of recommending blind keystrokes... what happens if you copy the names of those replacement packages and then apt-get install [ctrl-shift-v] ?
[22:03] <night_girl> now the question is where do i get that install? can i just save it on my external hard drive? and then do i just tell my boot to start from an external hard drive so that it lets me intsall the linux on a clean in top of my current one?
[22:03] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade < no complaints ?
[22:03] <Nikesh> In Linux Mint xfce4-terminal I would paste into vim from outside the terminal using "+gP Now I am in Ubuntu Unity with GNOME terminal but "+gP doesn't work.. what can I do?
[22:03] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: No complaints.
[22:03] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: I just updated the gist
[22:03] <MoPac> night_girl: That's a fine decision, and you'll find that if you do want upgrades then it'll be pretty easy.
[22:03] <k1l_> night_girl: just make a live-usb and install that over tha old ubuntu install.
[22:03] <fengshaun_> how can I list the files installed by a package?
[22:03] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: The first file contains my attempts to install the dependencies in question, and I was told that they're already installed
[22:04] <k1l_> night_girl: if you dont have a fancy setup the ubuntu installer should offer you a "install over old ubuntu" option
[22:04] <zteam> night_girl, you should install it on usb-pendrive with UnetBootin
[22:04] <SRK> hello ..
[22:04] <night_girl> wtf is unetbootin jesus christ
[22:04] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Sorry I wasn't clear -- I meant sudo apt-get install   lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0
[22:04] <therealfakemoot> Can't I ask apt-get or aptitude "What are the broken packages I'm holding?"
[22:04] <night_girl> is there nothing flawless to do that
[22:04] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: ah, missed aboce, hm k, again try apt-get update --fix-missing
[22:04] <k1l_> night_girl: its make you usb into a live-ubuntu usb
[22:04] <k1l_> night_girl: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:05] <MoPac> night_girl: or you could burn a CD
[22:05]  * centric is a centric
[22:05] <night_girl> my cd player is dead as well i think
[22:05] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: They're installing, no problem.
[22:05] <fengshaun_> night_girl: dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/myusb
[22:05] <night_girl> and i dont ahve spare cs here
[22:05] <zteam> night_girl, I was about to give you a link girl....
[22:05] <fengshaun_> night_girl: you can find /dev/myusb through fdisk -l
[22:05] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: But it hasn't changed the steam installation.
[22:05] <zteam> night_girl, here you go http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:05] <night_girl> all right im on my ubuntu now though
[22:05] <k1l_> night_girl: see my official link from ubuntu
[22:05] <night_girl> can i install that thingie on ubuntu
[22:06] <k1l_> night_girl: yes. start the usb creator
[22:06] <night_girl> wheres the usb creator
[22:06] <night_girl> btw i have a lot of important things on my usb
[22:06] <night_girl> is that fine?
[22:06] <k1l_> night_girl: they all get deleted
[22:06] <MoPac> night_girl: k1l_: Maybe doing in-place upgrades is actually the way to go here, even if it takes a little while?
[22:06] <night_girl> well thats not fine then
[22:07] <MoPac> night_girl: k1l_: In-place upgrades would also have the added benefit of not messing with the dual-boot config, right?
[22:07] <zteam> night_girl,  those will be deleted once you create your memory, so be sure to back them up first :-)
[22:07] <therealfakemoot> DasEi: apt-get update --fix-missing just downloaded package info and had zero actions
[22:07] <k1l_> MoPac: form 10.10? that is possible but really really a long effort
[22:07] <k1l_> MoPac: dualboot is not an issue
[22:07] <DasEi> therealfakemoot: it can, dpkg is even more mighty, I'm done with my beside done work for now, prbly directly ask someone expereinced /w steam (their HP ?) repo needed ? idk https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[22:08] <MoPac> k1l_: "dualboot is not an issue" -- famous last words!
[22:08] <k1l_> MoPac: what is an issue then?
[22:09] <DasEi> therealfakemoot:: apt-get dist-upgrade maybe, I'm not firm /w repos,versions,backports whatever concerning steam
[22:10] <therealfakemoot> It's just confounding that I upgraded from 14.04 or whatever to 14.10 and all of a sudden I have to uninstall steam and skype and now I'm in dependency hell
[22:10] <therealfakemoot> what happened?
[22:10] <Bl3u2or> phpstorm on ubuntu 14.04. im not sure where to save the files. which is best? save php files in home dir or in var/www? if in var/www, what permission should be set then? if in homedir, how do i set that up in a safe way?
[22:10] <zteam> therealfakemoot, try sudo apt-get install -f
[22:10] <lgs> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:11] <lgs> haw are u
[22:11] <therealfakemoot> zteam: Nothing. "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:11] <therealfakemoot> "
[22:11] <tc_> Can anyone explaine me what are the consoles for here on ubuntu?
[22:11] <lgs> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:11] <MoPac> k1l_: There are a lot of people who have had problems setting up or maintaining dual-boot installations -- I don't want to stray off topic and debate various causes. I just wanted to flag it up as a potential concern
[22:11] <emsy2015> how to set up chroot properly? I' m just reading that thread and it says Chroot into the /mnt: sudo chroot /mnt
[22:11] <k1l_> lgs: please ubuntu support only in here.
[22:12] <emsy2015> kl
[22:12] <zteam> therealfakemoot, what about sudo apt-get check ?
[22:12] <k1l_> emsy2015: come on. you did that already 10 times
[22:12] <therealfakemoot> zteam: also nothing
[22:12] <emsy2015> k1l_ but you said I didn' t do that properly
[22:12] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Okay, so right now, having installed those three ia32-libs replacements, what happens when you try to install steam?
[22:13] <emsy2015> sudo chroot /mnt. I have to replace /mnt with media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d shouldn' t I?
[22:13] <jhutchins> emsy2015: You chroot into wherever you built the chroot.
[22:13] <zteam> therealfakemoot, if that commands exist fine then your package system should be just fine
[22:13] <lgs> eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:13] <k1l_> emsy2015: yes. you did it not right this time. so you got an error anywhere and did not stop but carry on. so please start from the beginning and see if there is an error
[22:13] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[22:13] <MoPac> zteam: the basic issue isn't his package system, it's a steam dependency probelm
[22:13] <zteam> try to install something like gksu or aptitude
[22:14] <emsy2015> k1l_ I' ve mounted everything from the beginning
[22:14] <night_girl> so where i can that pendrive booter for linux as im under my 10.10 right now
[22:14] <therealfakemoot> zteam: I've been trying to make it work with aptitude, but all its alternative resolutions are insane; they require uninstalling 400+ pacakges, stuff like pidgin and chromium and EVERYTHING, JUST to meet these Steam dependencies.
[22:14] <k1l_> emsy2015: use the same steps you did last time.
[22:14] <therealfakemoot> zteam: It's friggin insane
[22:14] <k1l_> night_girl: you got a usb pendrive you can erase completly?
[22:14] <therealfakemoot> Oh yeah, aptitude wants to uninstall compiz if it's going to install steam.
[22:14] <emsy2015> so should I install linux-generic again, k1l?
[22:14] <therealfakemoot> So that sounds horrifically wrong
[22:14] <night_girl> yes i do
[22:15] <k1l_> emsy2015: after you setup the chroot completly
[22:15] <zteam> therealfakemoot, sudo apt get install aptitude
[22:15] <night_girl> a 16gb one
[22:15] <therealfakemoot> zteam: it's already installed?
[22:15] <k1l_> night_girl: ok. download the ubuntu iso form ubuntu.com
[22:15] <therealfakemoot> zteam: I tried letting aptitude intelligently resolve the issue, before I came here.
[22:15] <zteam> therealfakemoot, then sudo apt get why-not skype
[22:16] <emsy2015> k1l_, just to make sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507184/
[22:16] <night_girl> yes but how do i create the ubuntu booter on a hard drive
[22:16] <therealfakemoot> zteam: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323
[22:16] <therealfakemoot> see skype.txt
[22:16] <MoPac> night_girl: program called unetbootin
[22:16] <k1l_> night_girl: we use a terminal command if you got the iso downloaded
[22:16] <zteam> night_girl, unetbootin can help you with that
[22:16] <k1l_> night_girl: so if you got that just tell and we carry on.
[22:17] <crushoverride> :3 why not using dd
[22:17] <k1l_> emsy2015: ok, looks good so far. now chroot
[22:17] <ONIONjuice> hii
[22:17] <night_girl> all right wait im downloadint thanks
[22:18] <zteam> therealfakemoot, do you have any third-party repos in your sources.list ?
[22:18] <lasko> joi/window splith 12
[22:18] <lasko> oops
[22:19] <wamicho_> daftykins, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[22:19] <zteam> therealfakemoot, have you run sudo apt-get update  to let it refresh the links ?
[22:19] <therealfakemoot> zteam: google chrome
[22:19] <therealfakemoot> zteam: the rest came with ubuntu
[22:20] <daftykins> wamicho_: why are you linking me to a page for an issue you're resolving? :)
[22:20] <Hardtail> when using virtualbox to run ubuntu, the lack of 3d acceleration would just be noticeable with unity and 3d programs correct?
[22:20] <wamicho_> daftykins, there is the answer for now did couple of reboots no issues
[22:20] <emsy2015> k1l_ the last time you said I did not chroot properly so I don' t want to make the same mistake again. How do you chroot?
[22:20] <jhutchins> !chroot
[22:20] <therealfakemoot> zteam: I've done that at least five hundreds times today
[22:21] <daftykins> wamicho_: that page was something i was considering linking myself, but all it does is say what i already said - to install nvidia-331 and nvidia-prime - what are you getting at?
[22:21] <therealfakemoot> zteam: I've done it again and observed no change in my problem.
[22:21] <v_Sully> Hey all, can someone tell if there is a log of error codes for start up? having some issues and I see what looks like error code  just before the splash screen on load
[22:21] <cetex> hm. i need to catch errors in upstart. for example, service dying for some reason.
[22:21] <zteam> therealfakemoot, disable that repo then, and then run sudo apt-get update
[22:21] <cetex> and do some stuff when that happens
[22:21] <cetex> how can i catch failed starts and run something then?
[22:21] <k1l_> emsy2015: the pastebin you showed was not running on the chroot but on the original live-usb system. so that chroot must have brought you an error
[22:22] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Just to confirm, you can't install either of the steam dependencies without apt telling you it's going to remove nvidia-331 - is that correct?
[22:22] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: No, actually. Those dependencies are already installed.
[22:23] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: hmm. So steam is telling you that it depends on a certain package, and -- letter for letter -- that package is already installed?
[22:23] <wamicho_> daftykins, ok did not know .. but apparently after following that it works now ..
[22:23] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: https://gist.github.com/therealfakemoot/51790dcb3ee1fd084323 see steam.txt
[22:23] <daftykins> wamicho_: i'm very confused, as every time i said to run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime"
[22:24] <daftykins> anyway i've clocked out, shift's over ;)
[22:24] <emsy2015> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507260/
[22:24] <k1l_> emsy2015: sudo chroot /path/you/mounted/your/ubuntuinstall
[22:24] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Ever used Synaptic to look at dependencies? I sometimes find it easier to navigate. for fine details Could you check on steam in there and see if it tells you exactly what versions of those mesa packages it's depending on?
[22:24] <k1l_> emsy2015: what command did you run to chroot?
[22:25] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Then also see in Synaptic what precise versions you successfully installed
[22:25] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Meh. Worth a shot.
[22:25] <emsy2015> k1l: ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d$ sudo chroot /media/ubuntu/e1784e0c-eacf-49ed-8873-c0ae2f1a638d/
[22:25] <k1l_> emsy2015: and did that make a message (error) afterwards?
[22:25] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: At some point I feel like I'm going to say "XOrg-Edgers" (and your machine will probably explode at the mention)
[22:25] <emsy2015> k1l_ nope
[22:25] <k1l_> emsy2015: ok
[22:26] <k1l_> emsy2015: please do a "apt-cache policy linux-generic"
[22:26] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: I have that in sources.list.d
[22:26] <emsy2015> k1l: while chroot?
[22:26] <wamicho_> daftykins, i was forgetting the nvidia-common
[22:26] <k1l_> emsy2015: yes, dont leave that chroot now until we have all insatlled we want to
[22:26] <daftykins> nah you already had that the first time.
[22:27] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: ahhh, well, there's an interesting thing. Try removing Xorg-edgers
[22:27] <emsy2015> k1l_: did that, installed (none)
[22:27] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: then update and upgrade (which may well be downgrade).  If you're getting Xorg-edgers packages, they might actually be too *new* for Steam
[22:27] <k1l_> emsy2015: please pastebin
[22:27] <cetex> duh.. post-stop was the solution. :)
[22:28] <k1l_> emsy2015: details matter to see if everything is going well
[22:28] <emsy2015> k1l: sure, no problem. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507305/
[22:28] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: No dice. Same dependency conflict, and Synaptic came to the same conclusion that aptitude did: it'll have to remove a buttload of stuff like compiz, pidgin, and so on to satisfy the steam dependencies
[22:28] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: That's why I was suggesting looking at synaptic -- it might be that steam requires a version that's not just no earlier than X but also no later than Y
[22:29] <wamicho_> daftykins, did work then don't know either you saw the pastebins ... Anyway thanks a lot ..!!
[22:30] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: So you removed (and remove --purge)'d all the edgers Xorg things and then tried steam? (I was going to say that seemed really quick, but I guess if you're running nvidia drivers, you might not actually have had much Xorg stuff going)
[22:30] <wamicho_> i mean didn't work
[22:30] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Well, I update && upgrade'd
[22:30] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: And nothing changed.
[22:30] <k1l_> emsy2015: so is your installed ubuntu a 14.04?
[22:31] <MoPac> In synaptic, if you find one of the mesa packages that steam depends on, can you set the preferred source for it?
[22:31] <emsy2015> k1l_: ahaha, omg.. the version on cd is 14.04 but on hdd it' s 14.10
[22:31] <k1l_> emsy2015: are you sure about that?
[22:32] <emsy2015> k1l: absolutely!
[22:32] <jjavaholic> is it possible to get google chrcome browser to use the systemwide flash and not the pepperflash? would it just be as easy as removing pepperflash?
[22:32] <maurizio13> ciao
[22:32] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: http://i.imgur.com/8lZ6Dlo.jpg
[22:32] <k1l_> emsy2015: because that is a trusty system you are actually in. so eihter you have a 14.04 installed or the chroot is wrong again
[22:33] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: and the "Force Version" options include *one* version of the package.
[22:33] <emsy2015> k1l_:the ubuntu I installed on cd was 14.04
[22:34] <Bl4ckD34Th> sal
[22:35] <k1l_> emsy2015: please pastebin a "mount"
[22:35] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: yep, looks like you do have the plain version of them... looked like a good lead
[22:35] <night_girl> so now i have a 16Gb pendirve with some data that can be overwritten and i have the iso of ubuntu
[22:36] <emsy2015> k1l_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507446/
[22:36] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: So was there any minimum version info for steam in synaptic?
[22:36] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Maybe now's a good time to finally ditch Ubuntu
[22:36] <k1l_> night_girl: ok, so please put the usb in and then show the last 20 lines of "dmesg" in a pastebin please
[22:36] <k1l_> !paste | night_girl
[22:36] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Yes. libc6 and libstdc++6 are the only minimum versions specified.
[22:37] <k1l_> emsy2015: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please too
[22:37] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: One thing -- is steam now offered in 64 as well as 32?
[22:37] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: Probably not.
[22:37] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: I honestly don't know. I've enver seen the option
[22:38] <emsy2015> k1l_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507478/
[22:38] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: some of this may boil down to differences in 32 vs 64-bit files -- your OS is 64, right?
[22:38] <therealfakemoot> Yeah.
[22:38] <k1l_> emsy2015: so its not a 14.10 at all that you got installed there
[22:39] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: what happens when you try to install steam-launcher ?
[22:39] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: no such package
[22:39] <emsy2015> k1l: it looks like 13.04
[22:39] <k1l_> emsy2015: so "apt-get install linux-generic"
[22:39] <night_girl> there you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507497/
[22:39] <k1l_> emsy2015: does that produce an error again?
[22:40] <emsy2015> the same error, k1l
[22:40] <emsy2015> k1l,E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:40] <k1l_> night_girl: is it still in?
[22:40] <k1l_> emsy2015: apt-get update
[22:40] <night_girl> it is in yes
[22:40] <k1l_> emsy2015: after that: "dpkg --configure -a"
[22:41] <emsy2015> k1l, after update the same error
[22:41] <emsy2015> should I still go with dpkg...
[22:41] <Geeky_Vin> #clojure
[22:41] <k1l_> night_girl: ok, you seem to have connected and disconnected several things there so i want to be sure not to erase the wrong one. so please show a "sudo fdisk -l" small L at the end in a pastebin please
[22:41] <MoPac> Do you have this repo in your sources? - http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ ( therealfakemoot: )
[22:41] <k1l_> emsy2015: yes
[22:42] <emsy2015> k1l_: done succesfuly
[22:42] <k1l_> emsy2015: after that "apt-get update"
[22:43] <emsy2015> k1l_ done
[22:43] <k1l_> emsy2015: then "apt-get install linux-generic"
[22:43] <night_girl> here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507543/
[22:43] <night_girl> so here you can see how i have my disk in general
[22:44] <night_girl> i just wanna override my current ubuntu as discussed
[22:44] <emsy2015> k1l: E: Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?) - openpty (2: No such file or directory)
[22:44] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: So even though "Precise" is the only distribution listed in that repp, it does offer 32 and 64-bit versions from there, and I'm pretty sure that's what I run
[22:44] <emsy2015> k1l: but still unpacking something...
[22:45] <k1l_> emsy2015: show all the output with commands in a pastebin when its done
[22:45] <brownfaux> so is there an ubuntu distro that doesn't have a desktop env or one prebuilt with i3?
[22:45] <Tenebris> server version?
[22:45] <brownfaux> ah yes
[22:46] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: probably not
[22:46] <emsy2015> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507558/
[22:46] <k1l_> night_girl: now we use the terminal tool DD to install the iso onto the usb: "sudo dd bs=1M if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdc"
[22:46] <jhutchins> night_girl: Easy way is sudo dd if=<isofile> of=/dev/sdc
[22:47] <k1l_> night_girl: if you are in the same folder as the ubuntu.........iso then just write "if=ubuntu.....iso" for that if=/path/to/iso thing
[22:48] <k1l_> emsy2015: should be done
[22:48] <therealfakemoot> MoPac: and adding that source didn't change anything. same dependency problem
[22:49] <k1l_> emsy2015: not try to run a "update-grub"
[22:49] <emsy2015> k1l: is it time to unmount everything and reboot?
[22:49] <k1l_> *now
[22:49] <winterchillz> Need a bit of help - trying to remap a key, but xev says "xev: warning: could not set default locale xev:  unable to open display ''; Any idea how to fix this?
[22:49] <jsdkhbe> irc://irc.abjects.net:6667/moviegods
[22:50] <emsy2015> kl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10507615/
[22:50] <nash> hi guys I have a freeze after login problem. If I switch to tty1 I see many I/O errors on a block. This is my smartmontools log: Here is my smartmontools log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10506563/
[22:50] <MoPac> therealfakemoot: Well, at this point I guess I would say that a forum post here might be a decent bet. The thread is quite active, including someone wanting to look at logs just a few days ago https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2800
[22:51] <k1l_> emsy2015: now "exit" to exit chroot. reboot. and test
[22:52] <night_girl> sudo dd bs=1M if=ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc 996+0 records in 996+0 records out 1044381696 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 162.409 s, 6.4 MB/s
[22:52] <k1l_> night_girl: now type "sync" and wait until its done
[22:53] <night_girl> done
[22:53] <k1l_> now you can reboot and boot from that usb and get the live ubuntu going to install the ubuntu from there
[22:54] <night_girl> does the pendrive needs to be penetrated in the ubs while rebooting?
[22:54] <winterchillz> Need a bit of help - trying to remap a key, but xev says "xev: warning: could not set default locale xev:  unable to open display ''; Any idea how to fix this?
[22:54] <night_girl> what is the option so that it boots from the usb drive when restarting?
[22:54] <k1l_> night_girl: just let the usb stick put in and see if that works.
[22:55] <night_girl> all right...see you in half an hour when i have completely installed this thing
[22:55] <night_girl> half an hour is a good estimate?
[22:56] <k1l_> night_girl: you could join irc from the live ubuntu if you need assistance.
[22:56] <night_girl> thx see u ill report back and ill carry riding forward now with the installation
[22:59] <therealfakemoot> MobGod: Yeah, seems like the only tack left to take
[23:01] <therealfakemoot> er
[23:03] <nash> hi guys I have a freeze after login problem. If I switch to tty1 I see many I/O errors on a block. This is my smartmontools log: Here is my smartmontools log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10506563/
[23:05] <bekks> nash: The disk is about to fail, you should replace it.
[23:05] <bekks> And you should have a backup handy.
[23:06] <nash> bekks, ahh are the logs so terrible?
[23:13] <bekks> nash: Yes. :)
[23:19] <Guest46412> irc://irc.mozilla.org/chatzilla
[23:19] <roezer> #join newbies
[23:20] <roezer> hey all
[23:21] <muscles> hey hey
[23:36] <umbra_purus> hey. Is there a version of Ubuntu for Intel? 'cause the iso i've download is for amd64 and i'm using on a laptop with an i7 Processor
[23:36] <ikonia> amd64 is for intel
[23:36] <ikonia> it's just the 64bit version
[23:38] <umbra_purus> oh i thought it was for amd arquitecture
[23:38] <ikonia> nope
[23:39] <ikonia> safe for intel
[23:39] <k1l_> the patent for 64bit is from amd but intel uses the same technologie.
[23:39] <Bashing-om> umbra_purus: I think I read where AMD holds the patent .
[23:40] <compdoc> amd64 is awesome
[23:40] <daftykins> wat
[23:41] <umbra_purus> oh so I should have no problem coding in linux with intel processors right?
[23:41] <ikonia> no
[23:41] <muscles> nope - no problems
[23:41] <umbra_purus> okay thanks
 umbra_purus: I think I read where AMD holds the patent .
[23:41] <WilliamDotSI> sort of
[23:42] <WilliamDotSI> it was a deal between AMD and Intel to exchange some technology
[23:42] <WilliamDotSI> to avoid Intel being sued for many counts of illegal things they did
[23:45] <wldcordeiro> I'm needing to increase the swap space on a vm I'm running (Ubuntu 14.04) how could I go about that?
[23:46] <daftykins> add a second virtual disk and make that the swap
[23:46] <wldcordeiro> daftykins: that's probably easier in vbox rather than vagrant
[23:46] <wldcordeiro> huh?
[23:47] <daftykins> how do i know what you're running?
[23:48] <wldcordeiro> Is there a command that tells Ubuntu that the other virtual disk is the swap? Otherwise it would just be an additional drive.
[23:48] <daftykins> you partition it, make it swap, turn swap on...
[23:48] <ikonia> wldcordeiro: you have to make a swap partition on the disk
[23:48] <muscles> you would specify it in /etc/fstab
[23:48] <ikonia> you don't have to set it in /etc/fstab
[23:50] <wldcordeiro> ikonia: very vague, what would be the command to partition?
[23:50] <ikonia> wldcordeiro: any partition tool you like, marke the partition as swap, mkswap, then swapon
[23:52] <Nimbus_> Hello All, I have a thermaltake blac x but Ubuntu will not recognize it
[23:52] <Nimbus_> any suggestions?
[23:53] <daftykins> a what?
[23:53] <Nimbus_> Hdd Dock
[23:53] <daftykins> SATA to USB?
[23:53] <Nimbus_> Thermaltake Blac X is the brand/Model
[23:53] <Nimbus_> yes
[23:53] <daftykins> unplug it
[23:53] <Bergcube> I just installed Hexchat. I can connect to Freenode without problems, but not Undernet. Trying to connect to any undernet server I get an error saying "no ident response". I've left everything default except my nick, username, real name, etc.
[23:53] <bekks> And did you put a HDD into it? :)
[23:53] <daftykins> open a terminal, run "dmesg | tail" then plug it back in and run it again
[23:54] <Nimbus_> yes bekks
[23:54] <Nimbus_> :)
[23:54] <daftykins> Bergcube: that's not a bad error, that's just common and informational.
[23:54] <daftykins> give it more time to connect perhaps
[23:55] <Bergcube> daftykins, Ok, good.  It's been cycling through the list for more than 30 minutes....
[23:55] <daftykins> 'the list' ?
[23:55] <Bergcube> daftykins, The list of available Undernet servers.
[23:55] <mntmse> hi guys, just wondering if anyone can help me with a partioning issue i'm having?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/592030/please-help-me-rescue-my-installation-on-macbook-pro
[23:55] <Nimbus_> it's been awhile now
[23:55] <mntmse> please
[23:56] <daftykins> can you share a pastebin of some actual connection logs? guessing isn't so effective
[23:56] <daftykins> !ask | mntmse
[23:56] <mntmse> thanks ubottu
[23:56] <Bergcube> daftykins, Sure.  Hang on.
[23:56] <mntmse> !ask
[23:56] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:56] <daftykins> mntmse: no, i typed that to make the bot tell you that message. now you can ask your question :)
[23:56] <mntmse> ahh lol
[23:57] <Bergcube> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10508227/
[23:58] <mntmse> I have a Macbook Pro (Mid 2012) 2.3 Intel Core i7 with 8GB of RAM. I'm aiming to dual boot Ubuntu with OS X and I'm nearly there. The version of Ubuntu is 13.04 as it's compatible with my computer.  I installed Ubuntu and I'm not getting the "missing operating system" error when I try to boot into it.  I'm using rEFInd as my boot manager. Here is my hard drive layout:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10508238/
[23:58] <Bergcube> daftykins, It's like that.  On and on.
[23:58] <daftykins> Bergcube: my bet would be wrong domains or port numbers, check their website and try manually creating a server with correct config
[23:58] <mntmse> A few things I"m unsure of. I don't know why disk0s4 is called Microsoft Basic Data...... and i'm sure that swap partion is messed up too
[23:58] <daftykins> mntmse: no you can't use 13.04, it's EOL
[23:58] <daftykins> !13.04 | mntmse
[23:59] <daftykins> dead with many security flaws, now
[23:59] <mntmse> daftykins:  i used that because of my computer version
[23:59] <mntmse> ubuntu recommended it
[23:59] <mntmse> so i should use the more latest one?
[23:59] <ikonia> mntmse: 14.04 is supported just fine
[23:59] <ikonia> as is 14.10
[23:59] <mntmse> ok thanks
[23:59] <ikonia> 13.04 is EOL so it is unmaintained
[23:59] <mntmse> how do you think I should fix the partition issues?
[23:59] <Bergcube> daftykins, Thanks a lot!  Will do.  I'll ask again if it doesn't help.
[23:59] <ikonia> install a current version
[23:59] <daftykins> mntmse: perhaps you're referring to the mactel wiki page, which is not saying 'install and old version' at all :)
[23:59] <ikonia> and I don't see what the "partition problem" is