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gamerchick02OMG yes00:15
gamerchick02same with IM sometimes too00:16
mrgoodcatwhat did i say that was false?00:28
rick_h_mrgoodcat: nothing, just responding to GC02_phone "True."00:28
rick_h_it looked like a Python True all nice and caps00:28
gamerchick02hah. my phone auto-capitalizes.00:28
jrwrenmy favorite things about hadoop: http://aadrake.com/command-line-tools-can-be-235x-faster-than-your-hadoop-cluster.html?utm_content=buffer9f6be&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer01:11
jrwrenoh gamerchick left :(01:11
jrwrenthat was mostly for her.01:11
jrwrenit is weird to have all these variants have a beta1 out, but regular Ubuntu does not. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/02/27/vivid-vervet-beta-1-released/01:20
cmaloneyEvening02:09
rick_h_cmaloney: http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/03/pebble-time-steel-and-smartstraps/13:10
cmaloneyVery cool13:13
greg-gthere's this big white thing in my drive way reflecting the sun into my eyes16:47
greg-goh right, it's the RV16:47
rick_h_woot16:47
greg-gI get to go stand in line today at the DMV :)16:48
rick_h_woot16:49
rick_h_what did you get?16:49
cmaloneySomething requiring him to go to the DMV, obviously. :)16:51
greg-ga 1983 Lindy 20'16:51
cmaloneyCan't be an airstream. I don't think they make white. :)16:51
cmaloneygreg-g: A Lindy? I would have pegged you for a Sprite.16:52
cmaloneyWait, you got a 1983 motor home?16:52
greg-gyep16:53
cmaloneyYou're insane16:53
cmaloney(said in the most loving manner I can muster)16:53
greg-gmaybe16:53
brouschGeez. Does it take leaded gas?16:54
cmaloneybrousch: at this rate I think it'll get .5 miles per gallon16:54
_stink_straight crude oil16:54
greg-gheh16:54
greg-git's a 5.7L Chevy, gets about 9ish mpg16:54
greg-gbbiab, team weekly time16:55
cmaloneyWell, on the plus side if you travel anywhere remote they'll still know how to work on it16:55
cmaloneyassuming the mechanic didn't pass away days before.16:55
cmaloneyThis is why I <3 Ting: https://ting.com/blog/why-isnt-ting-picking-up-right-away-when-i-call/18:25
derekv_i need some sort of set of libraries to get strated with for clientside js18:27
cmaloneystratocaster.js?18:27
derekv_that's not even a google result18:28
cmaloneysee your request. :)18:29
cmaloneyget strated = stratocaster.18:29
* derekv_ sighs18:29
cmaloney;)18:29
cmaloneyI'm not aware of what's the new hotness18:30
cmaloneyor if YUI is still "a thing"18:30
derekv_before even that18:31
derekv_i'm trying to figure out bower, require.js, project structure, workflow18:32
derekv_like what applies and what doesn't18:32
derekv_the node.js stuff has really complicated things .  now when I read something, i'm not even sure if i'm looking at node or browser, or if it matters or not18:32
rick_h_derekv_: lol welcome to the party18:33
rick_h_derekv_: you're supposed to be using https://code.google.com/p/traceur-compiler/ to transpile your ECMA6 code to valid JS while using the new module system and new classes18:34
rick_h_derekv_: as for libraries, everyone is into angular (except it's a dead end roadmap and everyone's mad at them), or react (ftw but only for UI bits, not a full library), or just going to the new YUI big tool ember.js18:35
* brousch cries18:39
_stink_thank you for the new word rick_h_18:41
_stink_'transpile'18:41
_stink_that does evoke some strange mental pictures18:41
derekv_that's an actual thing18:41
derekv_although i think it involves some misinterpretation of the meaning of "compile"... it's all just compilation18:42
derekv_translating from one format or language to another is compilation, technically18:42
derekv_man, screw all this, i'm going to invent my own language and tools.18:43
derekv_because, there's too much stuff out there, it's confusing, and I don't want to deal with it.18:44
brouschhttp://xkcd.com/927/18:45
cmaloneyderekv_: Fantom. ;)18:50
jrwrentraceur? is that like 6to5?18:50
derekv_all i need is a simple scheme dialect supporting dependent types and macros18:51
derekv_i'll target llvm, so from there i can do whatever18:51
derekv_this can work, i just need to write and IDE first18:51
jrwrenuse brackets?18:52
derekv_I don't like the keyboard bindings in OSX so I'm going to create my own OS on top of mach18:52
jrwrenAurelia > angular or react :p18:52
jrwrenderekv_: o-O? does debian still have a Hurd version?  that can be your OS on Mach18:53
derekv_jrwren: my philsosphy differs slightly from that RMS so I will not use anything from FSF thanks18:54
jrwrenderekv_: you don't use linux?18:54
derekv_i'm not being sarcastic about anything here at all18:54
jrwrenuse smileys ffs!18:55
_stink_haha18:55
derekv_everything I tell you is true and serious business18:57
derekv_and I use plan918:58
cmaloneyI thought we all were using Plan 9?18:58
jrwrenthe plan9 C compiler is superior.18:59
jrwrengcc is inferior18:59
cmaloneyI think that's a whole year's worth of Reddit posts: Why GCC is inferior18:59
jrwrencmaloney: really? what sub?18:59
cmaloneycprogrammingcirclejerk18:59
cmaloney(note: not sure if that exists)19:00
jrwrenoh! i'm not on a C++ sub. tahnks for the suggesetion.19:00
cmaloneyhttp://www.reddit.com/r/cprogramming19:00
cmaloneyThis one does exist19:00
jrwrenalso, use ACME for everything. it is the best editor ever.19:01
cmaloneyNow I know you're trolling19:01
jrwren/r/cplusplus19:03
cmaloneyhttps://about.gitlab.com/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-gitorious/19:07
jrwrenholy expensive keyboards! http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard.html19:59
derekv_i'm still groaning waiting on kinesis to release their new design to beta so i can see a photo20:04
derekv_that last sentance came out weird.20:04
derekv_i told the dude if he made a true split version of the contour he could name his price20:12
derekv_if they take much longer of if it doesn't have true split, maybe i'll just find someone to build me one of these http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/katy-keyboard-or-k80cs-key80-contoured-split-t8524.html20:13
rick_h_jrwren: yea, like 6 to 5 with some helpers to make everything work out20:27
jrwrenrick_h_: sweet! great to know.20:28
rick_h_jrwren: yea, for the gui I want us to start doing native es6 JS but with the required extra compile steps it makes me :(20:29
rick_h_turning JS into a compiled language fml20:29
jrwrenrick_h_: just don't support non-es6 browsers :)20:30
cmaloneyjrwren: Says the person who used to develop on Microsoft. ;)20:30
rick_h_hey, IE10 has a super browser now20:31
rick_h_maybe finally with full svg support, we can hope at least20:31
rick_h_sorry, windows 1020:31
jrwrencmaloney: microsoft is sitll the best. I'll trade everything I work on now for C# and VisualStudio, as long as I get to work with teh same people on the same stuff :p20:32
cmaloneyjrwren: Please report for your complimentary tar and bag of feathers20:33
jrwrencmaloney: hahahaha. if only mono had any support on server side linux, it might be really nice.20:34
cmaloneyHere's hoping Microsoft++ is more Jonathan Schwartz and less Steve Ballmer / Scott McNealy20:35
derekv_after a day of beating myself senseless with different js tools libraries frameworks etc, the text here falls just falls really flat21:05
derekv_https://www.meteor.com/about21:05
rick_h_hah, meteor, still around?21:06
derekv_couldn't tell you21:09
derekv_reads like a pyramid scheme marketing pitch for developers21:09
rick_h_lol21:09
derekv_your life used to be hard and boring and going nowhere? dissantified?  that's all changed! join us! work 2 hours a week and drive a bentley! we understand you!21:10
derekv_sorry its not that bad =]  just had a fun day getting reacclimated21:11
jrwrenmeteor is definitely still around and kicking21:13
derekv_jrwren: to answer your earlier question, I use multiple OS's including linux, including ubuntu... OSX is my main computing platform for a workstation for a little while, I'm itching to build a new workstation for home and will probably run some linux variant on it21:14
jrwrenderekv_: i was asking because nearly all linux distros use gnu coreutils, hence your nothing FSF troll that I didn't catch.21:17
jrwrenhrm, hence is the wrong word there. What is the inverstion of hence?21:17
derekv_i was being very sarcastic earlier with that whole thing. it was sortof a continuation of a conversation at chc last week21:19
derekv_I was talking about how I was having to deal with this system written by a guy who had to reinvent everything21:19
derekv_it seems the whole JS community has a little* bit of that going on21:20
rick_h_yea, lots of that21:20
derekv_*not little21:21
jrwrendoesn't JS have to reinvent it because it doesn't exist in JS yet?21:21
jrwrenor do you mean framework of the month?21:21
derekv_yea, or like, grunt vs gulp, or whatever21:22
jrwrenugh21:22
jrwrengrunt, glulp, bower, i don't ge tit.21:22
rick_h_JS has to reinvent everything because it doesn't have it, and then it doesn't work the way everyone wants, and it's easier to rewrite than to patch21:22
jrwrenand why don't you just use make?21:22
rick_h_because it's not written in JS21:23
jrwreni'd rather write C++ and deal with autotools.21:23
derekv_heh, I did a little c programming the other day, did a hw my brother was working on.  i remember how to program c pretty well21:26
derekv_what i forgot is that in c, you get nothing21:26
derekv_I wanted to split a string21:26
derekv_the only thing you get is like strtkn or something, and its terrible21:26
derekv_c++ is a little better if you pull in boost etc... which then led me to spending three hours getting boost to work on osx, something that sounds like it should be easy if not already built in21:28
jrwrenbrew install boost.21:28
jrwrendone.21:28
jrwrendunno wtf U were doing.21:28
derekv_i don't remember the details... i certainly knew about brew at that time so I'm guessing that didnt' work.21:29
cmaloneyB00st22:21

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