[00:15] <gamerchick02> OMG yes
[00:16] <gamerchick02> same with IM sometimes too
[00:28] <mrgoodcat> what did i say that was false?
[00:28] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: nothing, just responding to GC02_phone "True."
[00:28] <rick_h_> it looked like a Python True all nice and caps
[00:28] <gamerchick02> hah. my phone auto-capitalizes.
[01:11] <jrwren> my favorite things about hadoop: http://aadrake.com/command-line-tools-can-be-235x-faster-than-your-hadoop-cluster.html?utm_content=buffer9f6be&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[01:11] <jrwren> oh gamerchick left :(
[01:11] <jrwren> that was mostly for her.
[01:20] <jrwren> it is weird to have all these variants have a beta1 out, but regular Ubuntu does not. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/02/27/vivid-vervet-beta-1-released/
[02:09] <cmaloney> Evening
[13:10] <rick_h_> cmaloney: http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/03/pebble-time-steel-and-smartstraps/
[13:13] <cmaloney> Very cool
[16:47] <greg-g> there's this big white thing in my drive way reflecting the sun into my eyes
[16:47] <greg-g> oh right, it's the RV
[16:47] <rick_h_> woot
[16:48] <greg-g> I get to go stand in line today at the DMV :)
[16:49] <rick_h_> woot
[16:49] <rick_h_> what did you get?
[16:51] <cmaloney> Something requiring him to go to the DMV, obviously. :)
[16:51] <greg-g> a 1983 Lindy 20'
[16:51] <cmaloney> Can't be an airstream. I don't think they make white. :)
[16:52] <cmaloney> greg-g: A Lindy? I would have pegged you for a Sprite.
[16:52] <cmaloney> Wait, you got a 1983 motor home?
[16:53] <greg-g> yep
[16:53] <cmaloney> You're insane
[16:53] <cmaloney> (said in the most loving manner I can muster)
[16:53] <greg-g> maybe
[16:54] <brousch> Geez. Does it take leaded gas?
[16:54] <cmaloney> brousch: at this rate I think it'll get .5 miles per gallon
[16:54] <_stink_> straight crude oil
[16:54] <greg-g> heh
[16:54] <greg-g> it's a 5.7L Chevy, gets about 9ish mpg
[16:55] <greg-g> bbiab, team weekly time
[16:55] <cmaloney> Well, on the plus side if you travel anywhere remote they'll still know how to work on it
[16:55] <cmaloney> assuming the mechanic didn't pass away days before.
[18:25] <cmaloney> This is why I <3 Ting: https://ting.com/blog/why-isnt-ting-picking-up-right-away-when-i-call/
[18:27] <derekv_> i need some sort of set of libraries to get strated with for clientside js
[18:27] <cmaloney> stratocaster.js?
[18:28] <derekv_> that's not even a google result
[18:29] <cmaloney> see your request. :)
[18:29] <cmaloney> get strated = stratocaster.
[18:29]  * derekv_ sighs
[18:29] <cmaloney> ;)
[18:30] <cmaloney> I'm not aware of what's the new hotness
[18:30] <cmaloney> or if YUI is still "a thing"
[18:31] <derekv_> before even that
[18:32] <derekv_> i'm trying to figure out bower, require.js, project structure, workflow
[18:32] <derekv_> like what applies and what doesn't
[18:32] <derekv_> the node.js stuff has really complicated things .  now when I read something, i'm not even sure if i'm looking at node or browser, or if it matters or not
[18:33] <rick_h_> derekv_: lol welcome to the party
[18:34] <rick_h_> derekv_: you're supposed to be using https://code.google.com/p/traceur-compiler/ to transpile your ECMA6 code to valid JS while using the new module system and new classes
[18:35] <rick_h_> derekv_: as for libraries, everyone is into angular (except it's a dead end roadmap and everyone's mad at them), or react (ftw but only for UI bits, not a full library), or just going to the new YUI big tool ember.js
[18:39]  * brousch cries
[18:41] <_stink_> thank you for the new word rick_h_
[18:41] <_stink_> 'transpile'
[18:41] <_stink_> that does evoke some strange mental pictures
[18:41] <derekv_> that's an actual thing
[18:42] <derekv_> although i think it involves some misinterpretation of the meaning of "compile"... it's all just compilation
[18:42] <derekv_> translating from one format or language to another is compilation, technically
[18:43] <derekv_> man, screw all this, i'm going to invent my own language and tools.
[18:44] <derekv_> because, there's too much stuff out there, it's confusing, and I don't want to deal with it.
[18:45] <brousch> http://xkcd.com/927/
[18:50] <cmaloney> derekv_: Fantom. ;)
[18:50] <jrwren> traceur? is that like 6to5?
[18:51] <derekv_> all i need is a simple scheme dialect supporting dependent types and macros
[18:51] <derekv_> i'll target llvm, so from there i can do whatever
[18:51] <derekv_> this can work, i just need to write and IDE first
[18:52] <jrwren> use brackets?
[18:52] <derekv_> I don't like the keyboard bindings in OSX so I'm going to create my own OS on top of mach
[18:52] <jrwren> Aurelia > angular or react :p
[18:53] <jrwren> derekv_: o-O? does debian still have a Hurd version?  that can be your OS on Mach
[18:54] <derekv_> jrwren: my philsosphy differs slightly from that RMS so I will not use anything from FSF thanks
[18:54] <jrwren> derekv_: you don't use linux?
[18:54] <derekv_> i'm not being sarcastic about anything here at all
[18:55] <jrwren> use smileys ffs!
[18:55] <_stink_> haha
[18:57] <derekv_> everything I tell you is true and serious business
[18:58] <derekv_> and I use plan9
[18:58] <cmaloney> I thought we all were using Plan 9?
[18:59] <jrwren> the plan9 C compiler is superior.
[18:59] <jrwren> gcc is inferior
[18:59] <cmaloney> I think that's a whole year's worth of Reddit posts: Why GCC is inferior
[18:59] <jrwren> cmaloney: really? what sub?
[18:59] <cmaloney> cprogrammingcirclejerk
[19:00] <cmaloney> (note: not sure if that exists)
[19:00] <jrwren> oh! i'm not on a C++ sub. tahnks for the suggesetion.
[19:00] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/cprogramming
[19:00] <cmaloney> This one does exist
[19:01] <jrwren> also, use ACME for everything. it is the best editor ever.
[19:01] <cmaloney> Now I know you're trolling
[19:03] <jrwren> /r/cplusplus
[19:07] <cmaloney> https://about.gitlab.com/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-gitorious/
[19:59] <jrwren> holy expensive keyboards! http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard.html
[20:04] <derekv_> i'm still groaning waiting on kinesis to release their new design to beta so i can see a photo
[20:04] <derekv_> that last sentance came out weird.
[20:12] <derekv_> i told the dude if he made a true split version of the contour he could name his price
[20:13] <derekv_> if they take much longer of if it doesn't have true split, maybe i'll just find someone to build me one of these http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/katy-keyboard-or-k80cs-key80-contoured-split-t8524.html
[20:27] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, like 6 to 5 with some helpers to make everything work out
[20:28] <jrwren> rick_h_: sweet! great to know.
[20:29] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, for the gui I want us to start doing native es6 JS but with the required extra compile steps it makes me :(
[20:29] <rick_h_> turning JS into a compiled language fml
[20:30] <jrwren> rick_h_: just don't support non-es6 browsers :)
[20:30] <cmaloney> jrwren: Says the person who used to develop on Microsoft. ;)
[20:31] <rick_h_> hey, IE10 has a super browser now
[20:31] <rick_h_> maybe finally with full svg support, we can hope at least
[20:31] <rick_h_> sorry, windows 10
[20:32] <jrwren> cmaloney: microsoft is sitll the best. I'll trade everything I work on now for C# and VisualStudio, as long as I get to work with teh same people on the same stuff :p
[20:33] <cmaloney> jrwren: Please report for your complimentary tar and bag of feathers
[20:34] <jrwren> cmaloney: hahahaha. if only mono had any support on server side linux, it might be really nice.
[20:35] <cmaloney> Here's hoping Microsoft++ is more Jonathan Schwartz and less Steve Ballmer / Scott McNealy
[21:05] <derekv_> after a day of beating myself senseless with different js tools libraries frameworks etc, the text here falls just falls really flat
[21:05] <derekv_> https://www.meteor.com/about
[21:06] <rick_h_> hah, meteor, still around?
[21:09] <derekv_> couldn't tell you
[21:09] <derekv_> reads like a pyramid scheme marketing pitch for developers
[21:09] <rick_h_> lol
[21:10] <derekv_> your life used to be hard and boring and going nowhere? dissantified?  that's all changed! join us! work 2 hours a week and drive a bentley! we understand you!
[21:11] <derekv_> sorry its not that bad =]  just had a fun day getting reacclimated
[21:13] <jrwren> meteor is definitely still around and kicking
[21:14] <derekv_> jrwren: to answer your earlier question, I use multiple OS's including linux, including ubuntu... OSX is my main computing platform for a workstation for a little while, I'm itching to build a new workstation for home and will probably run some linux variant on it
[21:17] <jrwren> derekv_: i was asking because nearly all linux distros use gnu coreutils, hence your nothing FSF troll that I didn't catch.
[21:17] <jrwren> hrm, hence is the wrong word there. What is the inverstion of hence?
[21:19] <derekv_> i was being very sarcastic earlier with that whole thing. it was sortof a continuation of a conversation at chc last week
[21:19] <derekv_> I was talking about how I was having to deal with this system written by a guy who had to reinvent everything
[21:20] <derekv_> it seems the whole JS community has a little* bit of that going on
[21:20] <rick_h_> yea, lots of that
[21:21] <derekv_> *not little
[21:21] <jrwren> doesn't JS have to reinvent it because it doesn't exist in JS yet?
[21:21] <jrwren> or do you mean framework of the month?
[21:22] <derekv_> yea, or like, grunt vs gulp, or whatever
[21:22] <jrwren> ugh
[21:22] <jrwren> grunt, glulp, bower, i don't ge tit.
[21:22] <rick_h_> JS has to reinvent everything because it doesn't have it, and then it doesn't work the way everyone wants, and it's easier to rewrite than to patch
[21:22] <jrwren> and why don't you just use make?
[21:23] <rick_h_> because it's not written in JS
[21:23] <jrwren> i'd rather write C++ and deal with autotools.
[21:26] <derekv_> heh, I did a little c programming the other day, did a hw my brother was working on.  i remember how to program c pretty well
[21:26] <derekv_> what i forgot is that in c, you get nothing
[21:26] <derekv_> I wanted to split a string
[21:26] <derekv_> the only thing you get is like strtkn or something, and its terrible
[21:28] <derekv_> c++ is a little better if you pull in boost etc... which then led me to spending three hours getting boost to work on osx, something that sounds like it should be easy if not already built in
[21:28] <jrwren> brew install boost.
[21:28] <jrwren> done.
[21:28] <jrwren> dunno wtf U were doing.
[21:29] <derekv_> i don't remember the details... i certainly knew about brew at that time so I'm guessing that didnt' work.
[22:21] <cmaloney> B00st