| barrydk | Morning everyone | 04:23 |
|---|---|---|
| inetpro | Hi barrydk | 05:25 |
| inetpro | oh and good mornings to everyone else | 05:25 |
| barrydk | More inetpro and everyone | 06:01 |
| === Webtricity is now known as Akiva | ||
| === Akiva is now known as Webtricity | ||
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:36 |
| Squirm | morning | 07:13 |
| Kilos | afternoon | 07:21 |
| Kilos | hi not_found ThatGraemeGuy barrydk mazal inetpro and others too | 07:22 |
| mazal | More oom | 07:32 |
| mazal | Gaanit oom Kilos ? | 07:37 |
| mazal | Lanklaas gechat | 07:37 |
| Kilos | ja, besig soos altyd | 07:38 |
| mazal | Werk oom al weer te hard ? | 07:38 |
| Kilos | lol die pro druk my met die nikols bzr besigheid | 07:38 |
| Kilos | nikola | 07:39 |
| mazal | Eendag as ek groot is sal ek dalk na dit loer , maar dink dis bokant my | 07:39 |
| Kilos | eintlik sal jy dit maklik verstaan dink ek | 07:39 |
| mazal | Ek kannie code nie oom , kon nog nooit. Verstaan nie code language nie | 07:40 |
| Kilos | ah dan is ons in selle boot | 07:40 |
| mazal | Ek verstaan dan nie eers man pages nie lol | 07:40 |
| Kilos | lol ek ook nie | 07:41 |
| Kilos | ek kry hele tyd RTFS | 07:41 |
| Kilos | maar wat help dik as jy lyn een vergeet as jy lyn 4 lees | 07:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo 'lo | 07:43 |
| === danfowler_ahoy is now known as danfowler | ||
| mazal | Morning ThatGraemeGuy | 07:45 |
| Kilos | morning danfowler | 07:46 |
| Kilos | youre a serious lurker hey | 07:46 |
| Kilos | this is a chat and get involved group | 07:47 |
| * ThatGraemeGuy talks to himself | 07:47 | |
| Kilos | lol | 07:47 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy: You been following that slow mo thread of mine ? Shees I really thought I had the problem found last night , but no | 07:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Yeah, like I said I notice the quarry thing sometimes | 07:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its much harder to notice now that quarries don't just feed tubes | 07:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i mean they now have a buffer | 07:51 |
| mazal | I really don't know what to try anymore. It must be one of the mods causing it , but which one I dunno | 07:51 |
| mazal | It mostly irritates me when I have to do crafting , where furnaces , alloys and grinders are used. Then I have to wait long for the process to complete. | 07:54 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:55 |
| mazal | And the trees taking long to get rubber back etc. Very frustrating problem to have | 07:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | node breakers with tree taps in them + blinky plants | 07:56 |
| Kilos | plant more | 07:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | never worry about rubber again | 07:56 |
| mazal | Kilos: Lots of rubber trees kills fps | 07:56 |
| Kilos | fps? | 07:56 |
| mazal | In my previous world I had like a forest of them , when I enter there , oh boy , fps down to like 10 to 15 | 07:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i need to rebuild my tree farms sometime | 07:57 |
| Kilos | you mean speed? | 07:57 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy: I can't lekke figure out how to use the node breaker yet | 07:57 |
| mazal | That's something I must still look into | 07:57 |
| mazal | Kilos: Frames per second ya | 07:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | feel free to take a look at my stuff on VanessaE's survival server | 07:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i have a ton of breakers | 07:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | pumice, basalt, obsidian, flowers, trees, leaves, wheat, cotton | 07:58 |
| mazal | So you can put a tool in a breaker ? hmm | 07:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | papyrus | 07:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah with no tool in the slot it behaves like a instant-digging mese pick | 07:58 |
| mazal | So the breaker keeps breaking or harvesting 1 node in front of it ? | 07:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but if you put a tool it, it behaves like the tool | 07:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | pretty much yes | 07:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | with rubber trees you must put the tree tap in it, or it will just dig the trunk | 07:59 |
| mazal | So for example , I put 4 breakers on top of each other in front of rubber tree , each with tap in | 07:59 |
| mazal | And it will harvest as the tree replenish ? | 08:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yup | 08:00 |
| mazal | Now that I must try !!! :) | 08:00 |
| mazal | And it stores the harvested items inside it , which I assume can output via pipeworks ? | 08:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you attach a tube to the back of it | 08:01 |
| mazal | With or without trigger ? | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uh..... trigger? | 08:01 |
| mazal | filter with mesecon | 08:01 |
| mazal | I somme call it triggers | 08:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I don't follow | 08:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you trigger the breaker using mesecon signals, if that's what you mean | 08:02 |
| mazal | Does it output automatically like technic machines , or must you add filter with mesecon and blinky plant like chests ? | 08:02 |
| mazal | For the tube that goes out I mean | 08:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh, no it outputs automatically | 08:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so if there's no tube it just pops out onto the ground | 08:03 |
| mazal | Thanx man , defnitely gonna try this | 08:03 |
| * mazal adds to his trello " build nodebreakers " | 08:03 | |
| mazal | Does the tap also get worn out and must be repaired ? | 08:05 |
| mazal | The one inside the breaker | 08:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no | 08:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | not exactly sure why | 08:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | chainsaws do, weirdly enough | 08:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but it is possible to automate charging of those so its easy to incorporate them | 08:06 |
| mazal | Maybe cos chainsaw are batteries | 08:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's what I want to do when i rebuild my tree farms, right now they use node breakers, but I only get a few leaves at a time that way, with a chainsaw you get all the leaves | 08:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but at the same time I want to expand my farming with grass, all the veggies, bushes, etc. so I've been a bit lazy with that | 08:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | will probably build a massive multi-storey farming skyscraper :) | 08:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | have so much material its time I built something big | 08:08 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy: Hoe do you use it on trees , cos trees don't grow again. Or is there a trick to that ? | 08:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah | 08:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so right now i have 5 or 6 node breakers stacked vertically that remove the trunk, and 4 adjacent that get some leaves | 08:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the rest of the leaves decay, sometimes dropping saplings | 08:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | trunks and leaves are sorted off to my sorting tube array | 08:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | saplings drop on the ground, and there are vacuum tubes that pick them up and place them into deployers | 08:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so the whole setup is i have a node detector that is set to look for tree trunk node at the base of the tree | 08:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so the tree grows, the node breaker sees that there is trunk, it triggers 2 things | 08:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 1, the node breaker that digs the tree+leaves, and 2, a delayer that in turn triggers the deployer that plants a saplin | 08:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | +g | 08:14 |
| mazal | Wow , you guys are smart | 08:15 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I guess I shouldn't go into how to automate making lava from hundreds of filled lava cans :-p | 08:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uh, making obsidian i mean | 08:17 |
| mazal | Is amazing the stuff you guys know , really | 08:17 |
| mopkop | Good morning all! | 08:19 |
| Kilos | hi mopkop | 08:19 |
| Kilos | dont start gaming | 08:19 |
| mopkop | Lol, no time for that, I have an assignment to do :'( | 08:21 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy: I visted the quarry system that you guys have on Vanessa's server yesterday. ( Trying to see what speed it runs ) Couldn't find one , all was finished at that stage , but wow you guys have some nice networks there | 08:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the multi-level one? | 08:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | elevators every 100 nodes down? | 08:21 |
| mazal | Yeah there are lots of different levels there , I got lost at one stage lol | 08:21 |
| mazal | Yeah that one | 08:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mine are currently at -800 | 08:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | via elevator or if you find one of my travelnet boxes you can go directly to where I'm busy | 08:22 |
| mazal | Wound up in one place with loads of reactors underground | 08:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah that's level -100 in the quarry area probably | 08:22 |
| mazal | I first went to your -200 , but couldn't find the actual quarry , just lots of cable | 08:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it goes down to -2600 last i checked | 08:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah there are several people that quarry there | 08:23 |
| mazal | I came to the network box wuth the multiple ones , and from there all the ones I found was finished at that stage | 08:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | afaik i'm the only one that quarried at -800 so far | 08:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | never saw anyone else there | 08:24 |
| mazal | I must try visit your -800 one , don't think I was there | 08:24 |
| mazal | Lemme go see quick , don't shoot , it's just me lol | 08:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I'm not there :) | 08:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | haven't been for a while, the quarries are long finished | 08:26 |
| mazal | Yeah , am there now , all finished | 08:27 |
| mazal | Lemme see if I can find someone's who are busy | 08:27 |
| mazal | Looking at the nodebreaker setups now | 08:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if not I'll pop online around 12 o'clock and set up a bunch of them | 08:30 |
| mazal | Hoopie hiers honde nie :P | 08:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | node breakers are broken at the moment from what I can tell, things may not be working as expected | 08:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | haven't been on, but judging from chat in #minetest-technic, they are breaking their own machines in weird ways | 08:32 |
| mazal | I saw that yesterday , but wasn't paying much attention at that stage | 08:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | fixed, supposedly | 08:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | will check later | 08:35 |
| mazal | Well some latex did run past me there now down your tubes , so might be working | 08:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | cool | 08:38 |
| Padroni | morning | 08:40 |
| mopkop | Good morning Padroni! | 08:40 |
| Padroni | hey | 08:40 |
| Padroni | how are you? | 08:40 |
| mopkop | I have a lot to be thankful for, and you? | 08:42 |
| Padroni | same | 08:43 |
| not_found | morning all | 08:43 |
| not_found | what a morning *yawn* | 08:43 |
| * not_found needs to get to the big city and get bigger car :'( | 08:43 | |
| not_found | can't even fit baby carriage in picanto | 08:44 |
| mopkop | Good morning! | 08:45 |
| Kilos | lol @ neelsie | 08:45 |
| Kilos | hi Padroni | 08:45 |
| Padroni | hello boss | 08:45 |
| Padroni | how you? | 08:45 |
| Kilos | hi lin welcome to ubuntu-za | 08:45 |
| Kilos | um | 08:46 |
| Padroni | hi lin | 08:46 |
| lin | Hey guys | 08:46 |
| Kilos | alive is good hey | 08:46 |
| Padroni | let's run a portscan on that ip | 08:47 |
| Padroni | see what comes up... | 08:47 |
| Kilos | can you actually see my ip as well? | 08:50 |
| * ThatGraemeGuy hangs a "must be older than 12" sign on the door | 08:51 | |
| Kilos | hahaha | 08:51 |
| Kilos | oh my he killed himself | 08:54 |
| Kilos | oh no | 08:54 |
| Padroni | no I didn't | 08:54 |
| Padroni | I killed my clone | 08:54 |
| Kilos | you didnt answer me Padroni | 08:54 |
| Padroni | yeah? | 08:55 |
| Padroni | oh - haven't checked. | 08:55 |
| Padroni | And ThatGraemeGuy - before you get your panties in a knot, I was joking about the port scan, mmmkay?> | 08:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:55 |
| Padroni | Kilos: when last did you see jacques? | 08:58 |
| Kilos | yesterday Padroni | 08:59 |
| Padroni | ok so he hasn't been on yet today? | 09:00 |
| Kilos | nope | 09:00 |
| Padroni | It's gonna be a balmy 41 degrees here today | 09:00 |
| Padroni | Yesterday the wind was blowing gale-force strength | 09:01 |
| Padroni | today - nothing | 09:01 |
| Kilos | you got his full nick there then you can ask maaz seen jacques | 09:01 |
| Padroni | except the heat | 09:01 |
| Padroni | ty | 09:01 |
| Kilos | Maaz seen jacques_stry | 09:02 |
| Maaz | Kilos: jacques_stry was last seen 22 hours, 24 minutes and 59 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-03-02 02:37:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-03-02 05:35:38 PST | 09:02 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed are you still in za? | 09:11 |
| tumbleweed | yup | 09:11 |
| Padroni | hi tumbleweed | 09:12 |
| Kilos | nice | 09:12 |
| Kilos | hi TinuvaMac | 09:48 |
| Kilos | hi andrewlsd | 09:52 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos | 09:52 |
| Kilos | can someone explain this please | 09:52 |
| Kilos | 403 Forbidden [IP: 197.155.77.2 80] | 09:52 |
| andrewlsd | ... where are you receiving it from? | 09:52 |
| Kilos | thats from our repos, langjan is battling on the lists | 09:53 |
| mopkop | I'm getting the same! | 09:53 |
| andrewlsd | ah, sounds like the mirror is down for maintenance | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ill tell him to change ty | 09:53 |
| andrewlsd | ubuntu-archive.mirror.liquidtelecom.com. | 09:53 |
| andrewlsd | btw | 09:53 |
| andrewlsd | have any of you used aliases for bash in any significant way? I have 'apt-get update' aliased to 'au' ; apt-get upgrade aliased to 'aup' and apt-cache search to 'ac' | 09:54 |
| andrewlsd | so that when I search for stuff, I just do e.g: ac unity | 09:55 |
| andrewlsd | and to install it: ai unity | 09:55 |
| highvoltage | I did that at one point but it didn't have significant benefit | 09:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I don't use aliases, it's too much bother trying to keep them synced across hundreds of servers | 09:55 |
| andrewlsd | I have a .bash_aliases file that I use via config management, so that even on servers with yum/zypper I can still just do | 09:56 |
| andrewlsd | au, aup | 09:56 |
| andrewlsd | or rather: au && aup | 09:56 |
| andrewlsd | ... so as not to have to type out loooong commands. | 09:57 |
| highvoltage | apt update | 09:57 |
| highvoltage | that's not so much to type :D | 09:57 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:57 |
| andrewlsd | ^ correct, until you try it on RHEL. | 09:57 |
| Kilos | lo highvoltage | 09:57 |
| highvoltage | well then you're screwed anyway | 09:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's what you get for using RHEL | 09:58 |
| andrewlsd | :-) | 09:58 |
| highvoltage | andrewlsd: you use apt on rhel? | 09:58 |
| andrewlsd | I use: ai $package | 09:58 |
| highvoltage | (I know there was a port a long time ago but haven't come across anyone who used it yet) | 09:58 |
| andrewlsd | where, ai is an alias to "yum install" on rpm distros, or alias of 'apt-get install' on deb distros | 09:59 |
| highvoltage | ah | 09:59 |
| andrewlsd | on a related note, apt-cacher-ng does a great job of caching rpms too. | 09:59 |
| andrewlsd | (including merging mirror repos) | 10:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if you're installing packages manually you're already doing it wrong imho | 10:00 |
| andrewlsd | :-) | 10:00 |
| andrewlsd | ... was waiting for that. | 10:00 |
| andrewlsd | ... to make tiny package differentiations on a few servers, puppet/ansible/salt/chef are too much work | 10:01 |
| andrewlsd | ... but, I agree with that, in principle. | 10:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | not if you're doing it well :-) | 10:01 |
| highvoltage | depends on how many servers you have | 10:02 |
| andrewlsd | ThatGraemeGuy, touché | 10:02 |
| highvoltage | ansible already becomes worth while on >1 server | 10:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mazal: I'm moving quarries if you want to come check just now | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | and I find it scary when servers aren't reproducable | 10:03 |
| TinuvaMac | beginning to get everything into config management is a mammoth task, but once everything is in it... | 10:03 |
| andrewlsd | ... on large numbers of servers, the run time was too long for us, and ended up on a different CM platform | 10:03 |
| andrewlsd | ... but Ansible was the one I liked most (probably coz it felt like bash scripting) | 10:04 |
| andrewlsd | Kilos, I'm not having any issues at the moment with repo | 10:05 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy: Be there in a sec | 10:06 |
| andrewlsd | ThatGraemeGuy, moving quarries sounds like heavy work ;-) | 10:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if you're a scrawny weakling maybe :-p | 10:07 |
| * andrewlsd goes to find some spinach | 10:08 | |
| Kilos | ty andrewlsd ill wait to hear back from him | 10:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:09 |
| Kilos | andrewlsd maybe Symmetria was updating the mirror | 10:10 |
| mopkop | Wow the alias thing is very useful :) | 10:11 |
| Kilos | mopkop dont break stuff now | 10:12 |
| mopkop | I'll try :) | 10:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:13 |
| andrewlsd | check out Froztbyte's blog, for a clever search from the terminal: #http://blog.froztbyte.net/2011/10/terminal-quicksearch/ | 10:14 |
| jrgns | Is anyone seeing 403 Forbidden responses from za.archive.ubuntu.com ? | 10:15 |
| andrewlsd | yes | 10:15 |
| andrewlsd | Kilos also queried that a while ago. | 10:16 |
| Kilos | ha jrgns | 10:16 |
| jrgns | hey Kilos | 10:16 |
| Kilos | try switching to neology | 10:16 |
| andrewlsd | neology or webafrica | 10:16 |
| Kilos | i find neology the fastest and most up to date one | 10:16 |
| andrewlsd | za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu || archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu || ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu || ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu || ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/ubuntu/ | 10:17 |
| Kilos | and most stable | 10:17 |
| jrgns | Kewl, thanx | 10:17 |
| jrgns | btw, andrewlsd, are you going to the ansible meetup this week? | 10:17 |
| andrewlsd | ... I often grab from SUN.ac.za or UCT, since they're Cape... | 10:17 |
| andrewlsd | jrgns, I didn't know about it. | 10:18 |
| * andrewlsd goes looking for info | 10:18 | |
| jrgns | let me get you the link | 10:18 |
| andrewlsd | thanks, jrgns | 10:19 |
| jrgns | http://www.meetup.com/Ansible-Johannesburg/ | 10:19 |
| jrgns | It's Joburg, though, are you in the Cape? | 10:19 |
| Kilos | inetpro check the numbers | 10:20 |
| Kilos | wooo | 10:20 |
| andrewlsd | jrgns, yip. | 10:20 |
| jrgns | that's a pity | 10:21 |
| andrewlsd | I've got to be off, meetings. In near 40-degree heat. Wish me luck | 10:22 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 10:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:22 |
| mopkop | Good luck! | 10:23 |
| mopkop | .ping mopkop | 10:28 |
| Kilos | what happens when you do that | 10:32 |
| inetpro | ai! | 10:40 |
| Kilos | ai! / | 10:40 |
| Kilos | ? | 10:40 |
| inetpro | can someone please explain to oom Jan that people hosting the mirrors don't get paid to do the mirroring | 10:40 |
| inetpro | you want to complain then follow the correct channels | 10:41 |
| Kilos | oh my where did he complain | 10:42 |
| mazal | Email I think | 10:42 |
| mazal | Unless I'm lost now | 10:42 |
| Kilos | shame the poor old man, he has been battling for weeks with a install on a lappy | 10:43 |
| inetpro | and Kilos please change your posting style when responding to emails on the list | 10:43 |
| Kilos | back to bottom again? | 10:44 |
| inetpro | no | 10:44 |
| Kilos | ai! wat nou | 10:44 |
| inetpro | if you post at the bottom of an email then please cut out the junk, leave only the relevant parts that you are responding to and then start writing your bits | 10:45 |
| mopkop | Just trying the commands, yes that was a typo. | 10:46 |
| inetpro | otherwise just reply at the top like everyone else | 10:46 |
| inetpro | not that everyone else is right of course | 10:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style | 10:49 |
| Kilos | i remember big wars on our list about posting to the top so set evo to post at the bottom since then | 10:55 |
| Kilos | but i will change my posting style just for you inetpro | 10:55 |
| * Kilos waits for a smile | 10:55 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: the way you do it confuses the heck out of me | 10:55 |
| inetpro | always need to figure out who wrote what | 10:56 |
| Kilos | oh my pro confused | 10:56 |
| inetpro | and that is exactly not the reason why you should bottom post | 10:56 |
| Kilos | i thought thats my domain | 10:56 |
| inetpro | sorry oom... not much time here | 10:58 |
| * inetpro jumping around between meetings | 10:58 | |
| Kilos | np | 10:58 |
| inetpro | while trying to get work done at the same time | 10:58 |
| Kilos | do9nt jump too high you break a leg on the way down | 10:58 |
| Kilos | dont | 10:58 |
| * mazal was also told that replying at top is not allowed | 10:59 | |
| Kilos | there were big wars about it | 11:00 |
| mazal | Yeah I rember | 11:00 |
| Kilos | but top posting makes sense | 11:00 |
| mazal | I was privately mailed and told not to do it again | 11:00 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:00 |
| Kilos | well times seem to have changed, ill top post from now on | 11:02 |
| mopkop | Could it be that Jan Greef is having the same problem as I did yesterday with python? | 11:03 |
| Kilos | he has a lappy that gives nothing but hassles when trying to install ugbuntu | 11:04 |
| Kilos | ubuntu | 11:04 |
| Kilos | maybe the drive is a bit sick | 11:04 |
| * mazal see there is a new distro | 11:06 | |
| Kilos | hi lin | 12:23 |
| superfly | Kilos: cut out what is not relevant, then bottom post | 12:26 |
| Kilos | ok ty superfly | 12:27 |
| superfly | don't leave reams and reams of nonsense, you're wasting people's time and displacing more electrons than usual | 12:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:27 |
| Kilos | sorry | 12:27 |
| lin | I'm back, guys | 12:46 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , have a nice evening , God bless | 12:47 |
| * not_found had a small window to work on the wiki today and spent all that time to just log into it >.< | 14:27 | |
| Kilos | ouch | 14:27 |
| Symmetria | mirrors will be back in a bit soon as canonical repoint the dns | 14:30 |
| Symmetria | linux being on crack :( | 14:30 |
| Symmetria | it renamed /dev/md0 to /dev/md127 on a reboot | 14:31 |
| Symmetria | which broke my fstab | 14:31 |
| Symmetria | wtf | 14:31 |
| tumbleweed | Symmetria: add an entry to /etc/mdadm.conf to avoid that next time? | 14:32 |
| magellanic | or use uuids in fstab | 14:40 |
| Symmetria | fixed that now :P | 14:41 |
| Symmetria | still bizarre it does that | 14:41 |
| Kilos | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/ubuntu-15-04-beta-downloads-now-live-ubuntu-mate-made-an-official-flavor | 15:06 |
| magellanic | anyone use mate? it's a legacy gnome2 desktop? any good? | 15:08 |
| Kilos | i enjoyed it on top of unity | 15:08 |
| Kilos | bit different from gnome2 though | 15:09 |
| Kilos | but nice and fast | 15:09 |
| magellanic | hmm okay | 15:09 |
| magellanic | interesting that they made it an official flavour | 15:10 |
| Kilos | its a way to keep peeps that dont like unity | 15:10 |
| Kilos | clever move i think | 15:10 |
| magellanic | meh, stick to cinnamon.. | 15:12 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:15 |
| Kilos | wb mopkop | 15:56 |
| mopkop | Thank you Kilos! | 16:07 |
| Kilos | hehe what did you break today? | 16:07 |
| mopkop | Car's rear view mirror... | 16:08 |
| Kilos | oh my, how would one do that? | 16:08 |
| Kilos | oh an outside one | 16:08 |
| mopkop | Apparently press stick doesn't work to fix it. No, the inside one. It just fell off :( | 16:09 |
| Kilos | wow | 16:09 |
| Kilos | lol you like the old granny that said the tree just jumped in front of me | 16:10 |
| mopkop | Yea, like that :) | 16:11 |
| mopkop | I think the heat made the windscreen so hot, the glue melted. | 16:11 |
| Kilos | oh one of those glued to the windscreen | 16:11 |
| mopkop | Hello Magespawn! | 16:11 |
| Kilos | hi magellanic | 16:11 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:12 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 16:12 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 16:15 |
| magespawn | hi mopkop | 16:15 |
| magespawn | so whats up? | 17:39 |
| Kilos | in the cape temps | 17:39 |
| Kilos | here not much new | 17:40 |
| magespawn | right then | 17:43 |
| magespawn | indeed | 17:43 |
| Kilos | im in dog box again | 17:49 |
| Kilos | my own fault though for being lazy | 17:51 |
| magespawn | what is wrong now? | 17:53 |
| Kilos | i didnt clean up all the reply to stuffs in mails | 17:54 |
| Kilos | i need someone to blame for me being lazy | 17:55 |
| * Kilos face slaps | 17:55 | |
| Kilos | there prob sorted | 17:55 |
| magespawn | lol | 17:56 |
| magespawn | what reply to stuff? not really following | 17:56 |
| Kilos | when someone needs help you reply at the bottom but should clean up most of the other stuff above first | 17:57 |
| magespawn | oh right | 17:57 |
| Kilos | just keep whats relevant | 17:57 |
| Kilos | i used to but seem to have forgotten about that | 17:57 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry why you so quiet lately | 17:58 |
| Kilos | we even moved meetings to tuesdays so it didnt interfere with your beer nights | 17:58 |
| Kilos | ha | 17:58 |
| magespawn | i would not worry about it too much | 18:00 |
| Kilos | na ill remember now and do it right | 18:00 |
| Kilos | needed reminding thats all | 18:01 |
| Kilos | too much bzr and nikola corrupting my ram | 18:01 |
| magespawn | lol | 18:03 |
| magespawn | do you have a link for the ubuntu membership wiki? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | let me see | 18:05 |
| Kilos | which one ? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | where you apply or see our members | 18:05 |
| Kilos | where you added you yesterday or so | 18:06 |
| magespawn | where you apply for ubuntu membership? | 18:07 |
| Kilos | its on our site i think | 18:07 |
| Kilos | you dont apply on a wiki i think | 18:08 |
| Kilos | you go here to #ubuntu-locoteams | 18:08 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember | 18:09 |
| magespawn | ty | 18:10 |
| Kilos | yw | 18:10 |
| Kilos | sorry i first had to hunt | 18:11 |
| Kilos | that wiki is so slow | 18:11 |
| Kilos | takes ages to open | 18:11 |
| Kilos | even on my 4g | 18:12 |
| magespawn | maybe there is something else slowing it down for you, opened fine for me here | 18:16 |
| Kilos | ive heard lots of peeps complain so maybe it will be good if they fix it anyway | 18:17 |
| Kilos | they should go the static site route | 18:17 |
| Kilos | Kilos: as I understand it, the trouble is that the version of moinmoin being used wasn't really meant to scale to what it is so Canonical has had to do a lot of work to make it work at all in its current form | 18:26 |
| Kilos | eish sirens screaming | 18:49 |
| Kilos | another farm attack in this area | 18:50 |
| magespawn | hectic | 18:55 |
| magespawn | i think i might have to make myself a new pgp key, i think my old one gor formatted away | 18:57 |
| magespawn | s/gor/got | 19:00 |
| magespawn | nice | 19:00 |
| inetpro | good evening | 19:11 |
| magespawn | hi inetpro | 19:11 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 19:11 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro you in an explaining mood? | 19:13 |
| inetpro | again? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | i want to know where the ubuntu.wiki is and if it can be converted to static | 19:13 |
| Kilos | <pleia2> some proposals have been to switch to mediawiki and things, but that's a massive job and afaik they don't have the budget | 19:14 |
| Kilos | are all wikis hosted in one place or what | 19:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 19:19 |
| Kilos | youre fingers tired again? | 19:21 |
| inetpro | why convert a wiki to static? It would defeat the purpose of a wiki | 19:21 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:21 |
| Kilos | well i did ask you to explain | 19:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what is a wiki? | 19:21 |
| Kilos | you tell me | 19:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz define wiki | 19:22 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I don't know about wiki. Maybe you meant Wike or wifi? | 19:22 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:22 |
| inetpro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki | 19:22 |
| inetpro | a wiki invites all users to edit any page or to create new pages within the wiki Web site, using only a plain-vanilla Web browser without any extra add-ons | 19:23 |
| inetpro | Wiki promotes meaningful topic associations between different pages by making page link creation almost intuitively easy and showing whether an intended target page exists or not | 19:23 |
| inetpro | A wiki is not a carefully crafted site for casual visitors. Instead, it seeks to involve the visitor in an ongoing process of creation and collaboration that constantly changes the Web site landscape | 19:23 |
| inetpro | A wiki enables communities to write documents collaboratively, using a simple markup language and a web browser | 19:24 |
| inetpro | ensovoorts | 19:24 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:25 |
| inetpro | Wikis are generally designed with the philosophy of making it easy to correct mistakes, rather than making it difficult to make them | 19:25 |
| Kilos | and cant that be done on a static wiki? | 19:26 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how would you allow Joe Public to update a static wiki? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | thats what im asking | 19:27 |
| Kilos | i dont understand what the diffs is | 19:28 |
| Kilos | like can you run a wiki on a static site | 19:28 |
| Kilos | cant | 19:28 |
| Kilos | i just see things working but have no idea how they do it | 19:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how do you update a wiki? | 19:29 |
| Kilos | like our site is a static site but works same as others just faster | 19:29 |
| Kilos | carefully | 19:29 |
| inetpro | please RTFS above! | 19:29 |
| inetpro | 03/03 21:23:27 <inetpro> a wiki invites all users to edit any page or to create new pages within the wiki Web site, using only a plain-vanilla Web browser without any extra add-ons | 19:30 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:30 |
| Kilos | maybe i need pictures drawing for me so i can see things | 19:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos: History Lesson: According to Cunningham, "I chose wiki-wiki as an alliterative substitute for 'quick' and thereby avoided naming this stuff quick-web." | 19:31 |
| Kilos | ok next | 19:33 |
| Kilos | what makes it slow down | 19:33 |
| Kilos | not the stuff smile does on their wiki | 19:34 |
| Kilos | like looking for links that dont exist anymore etc etc | 19:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: who did you talk to? | 19:35 |
| superfly | https://www.flickr.com/photos/who_da_fly/16087266773/ | 19:35 |
| inetpro | awesome photo superfly! | 19:36 |
| Kilos | im talking to you man because you batter and batter till something sticks | 19:36 |
| magespawn | hectic fires | 19:36 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:37 |
| inetpro | superfly: it still burning since the weekend? | 19:38 |
| Kilos | yes they fighting now still | 19:38 |
| superfly | inetpro: yup | 19:38 |
| inetpro | wow | 19:38 |
| Kilos | was on the news just now too | 19:39 |
| superfly | inetpro: straight off the camera, 8 second exposure. | 19:39 |
| inetpro | that's hectic | 19:39 |
| inetpro | 03/03 21:14:24 <Kilos> <pleia2> some proposals have been to switch to mediawiki and things, but that's a massive job and afaik they don't have the budget | 19:40 |
| Kilos | they were talking about massive amounts of fynbos destroyed but as far as i know fire is natures way of revving the bush | 19:40 |
| Kilos | ya but what is mediawiki and why is it better | 19:41 |
| Kilos | reviving | 19:41 |
| inetpro | ahh... | 19:41 |
| * inetpro notices that he raised the issue at #ubuntu-locoteams | 19:42 | |
| Kilos | yes | 19:42 |
| Kilos | now | 19:42 |
| Kilos | aqi! i forgot | 19:42 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 19:42 |
| Kilos | is their prob similar to our ibid prob? the moinmoin thing needs to be rewritten | 19:43 |
| inetpro | please don't you go stressing about it now | 19:43 |
| Kilos | im asking man | 19:43 |
| inetpro | delete it from your mind | 19:44 |
| Kilos | no | 19:44 |
| magespawn | lol | 19:44 |
| magespawn | sudo inetpro | 19:44 |
| Kilos | magespawn help me man | 19:44 |
| inetpro | it's complicated stuff | 19:44 |
| Kilos | oh so i understand wrong | 19:45 |
| Kilos | its not because of old moin moin that cant cope | 19:45 |
| inetpro | you do not want to be involved in this | 19:45 |
| inetpro | end of story | 19:46 |
| Kilos | no but i would like to understand the basics of what it is | 19:46 |
| magespawn | Kilos one of the things about a wiki is allows people to log in to edit on the fly, so i imagine there is some sort of databas attached to the site controlling usernames and passwrd etc | 19:46 |
| inetpro | then go RTFS | 19:46 |
| magespawn | s/datbas/database | 19:47 |
| Kilos | rtfs talks raw geek | 19:47 |
| inetpro | there's a huge load of documentation to read | 19:47 |
| Kilos | nm you in your bully mode again | 19:48 |
| inetpro | trust me, you do not want to do this | 19:49 |
| inetpro | ask highvoltage why he even gave up on maintaining our wiki | 19:49 |
| Kilos | lol i dont want to get invloved or do anything man | 19:49 |
| inetpro | we actually had our very own wiki | 19:49 |
| Kilos | i just wanted to understand a little bit more than i do now | 19:50 |
| inetpro | no | 19:50 |
| inetpro | don't go there | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:50 |
| inetpro | just use it | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:51 |
| magespawn | perhaps this can help http://computer.howstuffworks.com/internet/basics/wiki.htm | 19:51 |
| Kilos | magespawn are you applying? | 19:51 |
| magespawn | that was the idea | 19:51 |
| inetpro | magespawn: when? | 19:51 |
| Kilos | pull old strydom with you | 19:51 |
| magespawn | lol | 19:51 |
| magespawn | i will need to do my page first, and redo my gpg key, gather some testimonials etc | 19:52 |
| Kilos | well dont just sit there, do it | 19:52 |
| Kilos | we have a how to for the gpg thing somewhere | 19:53 |
| magespawn | no worries Kilos, i think i might have found it | 19:54 |
| Kilos | bottom of current activities on trello | 19:54 |
| magespawn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto | 19:54 |
| Kilos | i think mofkop simplified it | 19:55 |
| highvoltage | hey :) | 19:55 |
| highvoltage | magespawn: current website doesn't have a database, people can edit it and submit changes on github | 19:56 |
| inetpro | superfly: have you had a chance to update the site yet? | 19:56 |
| superfly | no, sorry | 19:56 |
| inetpro | highvoltage: sorry for waking you up :-) | 19:57 |
| highvoltage | I'm way past that point, heading to bed in a min | 19:58 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 19:58 |
| magespawn | highvoltage: i thought it was bzr for the ubuntu-za.org site, are we talking about the same site? | 19:59 |
| highvoltage | magespawn: oh yes, indeed, bzr and on launchpad (I really need that sleep hehe) | 20:00 |
| highvoltage | magespawn: same concept, at least | 20:00 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:00 |
| magespawn | indeed, that is why iam not doing that application now | 20:03 |
| Kilos | haha | 20:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: in summary | 20:06 |
| inetpro | maintaining a static site is very easy but the process to update content requires time and effort | 20:06 |
| inetpro | maintaining a wiki is a mission but the process to update content is a breeze | 20:06 |
| Kilos | ah ty inetpro | 20:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but you are more than welcome to try it for yourself | 20:08 |
| Kilos | nono | 20:08 |
| Kilos | im still trying to work out how to get content on a blank site | 20:08 |
| inetpro | ai! | 20:09 |
| Kilos | you are right ai! | 20:09 |
| Kilos | i can change headings and so on but its to get photos there or whatever they use fot all the stuffs | 20:10 |
| Kilos | like background wall paper and so on | 20:11 |
| Kilos | but dont worry now please ill try work it out | 20:12 |
| Kilos | just need to rtfs all over | 20:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: are you talking about Nikola or about a real static site? | 20:13 |
| Kilos | nikola | 20:14 |
| inetpro | ok | 20:14 |
| Kilos | the trial site i made | 20:14 |
| inetpro | focus on the text as the absolute first thing | 20:14 |
| inetpro | look and feel can be changed afterwards | 20:15 |
| Kilos | the text on the not a blog page | 20:15 |
| Kilos | yo mopkop | 20:15 |
| inetpro | wb mopkop | 20:15 |
| mopkop | Thank you! | 20:16 |
| mopkop | I just started trying this bug-report thingy, testing the new Unity :) | 20:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:16 |
| inetpro | bug-report thingy? | 20:16 |
| Kilos | ai! | 20:17 |
| mopkop | If there is one thing I am good at, it's breaking things. It turns out, there is use for such a talent :) | 20:17 |
| mopkop | https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/testing/ | 20:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:17 |
| superfly | inetpro: done | 20:18 |
| inetpro | mopkop: ^^ | 20:19 |
| inetpro | mopkop: your changes are alive | 20:19 |
| inetpro | see https://ubuntu-za.org/getting-involved.html | 20:19 |
| inetpro | thanks superfly! | 20:19 |
| mopkop | Thank you! | 20:20 |
| Kilos | well done mopkop | 20:22 |
| magespawn | i am off, early start tomorrow, good night all | 20:28 |
| Kilos | night magespawn | 20:28 |
| mopkop | Good night! | 20:29 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:44 |
| mopkop | Night Kilos! | 20:44 |
| Kilos | i go dream rtfs | 20:44 |
| Kilos | but not in caps | 20:44 |
| mopkop | Should I learn Vala? I hear it is very similar to c#? | 20:45 |
| superfly | :-( the fire has jumped the road and reached the houses | 21:11 |
| mopkop | Fire? Where? What happened!? | 21:15 |
| inetpro | superfly: eish! | 21:35 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!