[04:23] Morning everyone [05:25] Hi barrydk [05:25] oh and good mornings to everyone else [06:01] More inetpro and everyone === Webtricity is now known as Akiva === Akiva is now known as Webtricity [06:36] Morning everyone [07:13] morning [07:21] afternoon [07:22] hi not_found ThatGraemeGuy barrydk mazal inetpro and others too [07:32] More oom [07:37] Gaanit oom Kilos ? [07:37] Lanklaas gechat [07:38] ja, besig soos altyd [07:38] Werk oom al weer te hard ? [07:38] lol die pro druk my met die nikols bzr besigheid [07:39] nikola [07:39] Eendag as ek groot is sal ek dalk na dit loer , maar dink dis bokant my [07:39] eintlik sal jy dit maklik verstaan dink ek [07:40] Ek kannie code nie oom , kon nog nooit. Verstaan nie code language nie [07:40] ah dan is ons in selle boot [07:40] Ek verstaan dan nie eers man pages nie lol [07:41] lol ek ook nie [07:41] ek kry hele tyd RTFS [07:42] maar wat help dik as jy lyn een vergeet as jy lyn 4 lees [07:43] 'lo 'lo === danfowler_ahoy is now known as danfowler [07:45] Morning ThatGraemeGuy [07:46] morning danfowler [07:46] youre a serious lurker hey [07:47] this is a chat and get involved group [07:47] * ThatGraemeGuy talks to himself [07:47] lol [07:50] ThatGraemeGuy: You been following that slow mo thread of mine ? Shees I really thought I had the problem found last night , but no [07:50] Yeah, like I said I notice the quarry thing sometimes [07:51] its much harder to notice now that quarries don't just feed tubes [07:51] i mean they now have a buffer [07:51] I really don't know what to try anymore. It must be one of the mods causing it , but which one I dunno [07:54] It mostly irritates me when I have to do crafting , where furnaces , alloys and grinders are used. Then I have to wait long for the process to complete. [07:55] lol [07:55] And the trees taking long to get rubber back etc. Very frustrating problem to have [07:56] node breakers with tree taps in them + blinky plants [07:56] plant more [07:56] never worry about rubber again [07:56] Kilos: Lots of rubber trees kills fps [07:56] fps? [07:56] In my previous world I had like a forest of them , when I enter there , oh boy , fps down to like 10 to 15 [07:57] i need to rebuild my tree farms sometime [07:57] you mean speed? [07:57] ThatGraemeGuy: I can't lekke figure out how to use the node breaker yet [07:57] That's something I must still look into [07:57] Kilos: Frames per second ya [07:58] feel free to take a look at my stuff on VanessaE's survival server [07:58] i have a ton of breakers [07:58] pumice, basalt, obsidian, flowers, trees, leaves, wheat, cotton [07:58] So you can put a tool in a breaker ? hmm [07:58] papyrus [07:58] yeah with no tool in the slot it behaves like a instant-digging mese pick [07:59] So the breaker keeps breaking or harvesting 1 node in front of it ? [07:59] but if you put a tool it, it behaves like the tool [07:59] pretty much yes [07:59] with rubber trees you must put the tree tap in it, or it will just dig the trunk [07:59] So for example , I put 4 breakers on top of each other in front of rubber tree , each with tap in [08:00] And it will harvest as the tree replenish ? [08:00] yup [08:00] Now that I must try !!! :) [08:00] And it stores the harvested items inside it , which I assume can output via pipeworks ? [08:01] you attach a tube to the back of it [08:01] With or without trigger ? [08:01] uh..... trigger? [08:01] filter with mesecon [08:02] I somme call it triggers [08:02] I don't follow [08:02] you trigger the breaker using mesecon signals, if that's what you mean [08:02] Does it output automatically like technic machines , or must you add filter with mesecon and blinky plant like chests ? [08:03] For the tube that goes out I mean [08:03] oh, no it outputs automatically [08:03] so if there's no tube it just pops out onto the ground [08:03] Thanx man , defnitely gonna try this [08:03] * mazal adds to his trello " build nodebreakers " [08:05] Does the tap also get worn out and must be repaired ? [08:05] The one inside the breaker [08:05] no [08:05] not exactly sure why [08:06] chainsaws do, weirdly enough [08:06] but it is possible to automate charging of those so its easy to incorporate them [08:06] Maybe cos chainsaw are batteries [08:07] that's what I want to do when i rebuild my tree farms, right now they use node breakers, but I only get a few leaves at a time that way, with a chainsaw you get all the leaves [08:07] but at the same time I want to expand my farming with grass, all the veggies, bushes, etc. so I've been a bit lazy with that [08:08] will probably build a massive multi-storey farming skyscraper :) [08:08] have so much material its time I built something big [08:11] ThatGraemeGuy: Hoe do you use it on trees , cos trees don't grow again. Or is there a trick to that ? [08:11] yeah [08:12] so right now i have 5 or 6 node breakers stacked vertically that remove the trunk, and 4 adjacent that get some leaves [08:12] the rest of the leaves decay, sometimes dropping saplings [08:12] trunks and leaves are sorted off to my sorting tube array [08:13] saplings drop on the ground, and there are vacuum tubes that pick them up and place them into deployers [08:13] so the whole setup is i have a node detector that is set to look for tree trunk node at the base of the tree [08:14] so the tree grows, the node breaker sees that there is trunk, it triggers 2 things [08:14] 1, the node breaker that digs the tree+leaves, and 2, a delayer that in turn triggers the deployer that plants a saplin [08:14] +g [08:15] Wow , you guys are smart [08:15] sjoe [08:17] I guess I shouldn't go into how to automate making lava from hundreds of filled lava cans :-p [08:17] uh, making obsidian i mean [08:17] Is amazing the stuff you guys know , really [08:19] Good morning all! [08:19] hi mopkop [08:19] dont start gaming [08:21] Lol, no time for that, I have an assignment to do :'( [08:21] ThatGraemeGuy: I visted the quarry system that you guys have on Vanessa's server yesterday. ( Trying to see what speed it runs ) Couldn't find one , all was finished at that stage , but wow you guys have some nice networks there [08:21] the multi-level one? [08:21] elevators every 100 nodes down? [08:21] Yeah there are lots of different levels there , I got lost at one stage lol [08:22] Yeah that one [08:22] mine are currently at -800 [08:22] via elevator or if you find one of my travelnet boxes you can go directly to where I'm busy [08:22] Wound up in one place with loads of reactors underground [08:22] yeah that's level -100 in the quarry area probably [08:23] I first went to your -200 , but couldn't find the actual quarry , just lots of cable [08:23] it goes down to -2600 last i checked [08:23] yeah there are several people that quarry there [08:24] I came to the network box wuth the multiple ones , and from there all the ones I found was finished at that stage [08:24] afaik i'm the only one that quarried at -800 so far [08:24] never saw anyone else there [08:24] I must try visit your -800 one , don't think I was there [08:25] Lemme go see quick , don't shoot , it's just me lol [08:25] I'm not there :) [08:26] lol [08:26] haven't been for a while, the quarries are long finished [08:27] Yeah , am there now , all finished [08:27] Lemme see if I can find someone's who are busy [08:30] Looking at the nodebreaker setups now [08:30] if not I'll pop online around 12 o'clock and set up a bunch of them [08:30] Hoopie hiers honde nie :P [08:30] node breakers are broken at the moment from what I can tell, things may not be working as expected [08:32] haven't been on, but judging from chat in #minetest-technic, they are breaking their own machines in weird ways [08:32] I saw that yesterday , but wasn't paying much attention at that stage [08:34] fixed, supposedly [08:35] will check later [08:35] Well some latex did run past me there now down your tubes , so might be working [08:38] cool [08:40] morning [08:40] Good morning Padroni! [08:40] hey [08:40] how are you? [08:42] I have a lot to be thankful for, and you? [08:43] same [08:43] morning all [08:43] what a morning *yawn* [08:43] * not_found needs to get to the big city and get bigger car :'( [08:44] can't even fit baby carriage in picanto [08:45] Good morning! [08:45] lol @ neelsie [08:45] hi Padroni [08:45] hello boss [08:45] how you? [08:45] hi lin welcome to ubuntu-za [08:46] um [08:46] hi lin [08:46] Hey guys [08:46] alive is good hey [08:47] let's run a portscan on that ip [08:47] see what comes up... [08:50] can you actually see my ip as well? [08:51] * ThatGraemeGuy hangs a "must be older than 12" sign on the door [08:51] hahaha [08:54] oh my he killed himself [08:54] oh no [08:54] no I didn't [08:54] I killed my clone [08:54] you didnt answer me Padroni [08:55] yeah? [08:55] oh - haven't checked. [08:55] And ThatGraemeGuy - before you get your panties in a knot, I was joking about the port scan, mmmkay?> [08:55] lol [08:58] Kilos: when last did you see jacques? [08:59] yesterday Padroni [09:00] ok so he hasn't been on yet today? [09:00] nope [09:00] It's gonna be a balmy 41 degrees here today [09:01] Yesterday the wind was blowing gale-force strength [09:01] today - nothing [09:01] you got his full nick there then you can ask maaz seen jacques [09:01] except the heat [09:01] ty [09:02] Maaz seen jacques_stry [09:02] Kilos: jacques_stry was last seen 22 hours, 24 minutes and 59 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-03-02 02:37:02 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-03-02 05:35:38 PST [09:11] hi tumbleweed are you still in za? [09:11] yup [09:12] hi tumbleweed [09:12] nice [09:48] hi TinuvaMac [09:52] hi andrewlsd [09:52] Hi Kilos [09:52] can someone explain this please [09:52] 403 Forbidden [IP: 197.155.77.2 80] [09:52] ... where are you receiving it from? [09:53] thats from our repos, langjan is battling on the lists [09:53] I'm getting the same! [09:53] ah, sounds like the mirror is down for maintenance [09:53] ah [09:53] ill tell him to change ty [09:53] ubuntu-archive.mirror.liquidtelecom.com. [09:53] btw [09:54] have any of you used aliases for bash in any significant way? I have 'apt-get update' aliased to 'au' ; apt-get upgrade aliased to 'aup' and apt-cache search to 'ac' [09:55] so that when I search for stuff, I just do e.g: ac unity [09:55] and to install it: ai unity [09:55] I did that at one point but it didn't have significant benefit [09:55] I don't use aliases, it's too much bother trying to keep them synced across hundreds of servers [09:56] I have a .bash_aliases file that I use via config management, so that even on servers with yum/zypper I can still just do [09:56] au, aup [09:56] or rather: au && aup [09:57] ... so as not to have to type out loooong commands. [09:57] apt update [09:57] that's not so much to type :D [09:57] haha [09:57] ^ correct, until you try it on RHEL. [09:57] lo highvoltage [09:57] well then you're screwed anyway [09:58] that's what you get for using RHEL [09:58] :-) [09:58] andrewlsd: you use apt on rhel? [09:58] I use: ai $package [09:58] (I know there was a port a long time ago but haven't come across anyone who used it yet) [09:59] where, ai is an alias to "yum install" on rpm distros, or alias of 'apt-get install' on deb distros [09:59] ah [09:59] on a related note, apt-cacher-ng does a great job of caching rpms too. [10:00] (including merging mirror repos) [10:00] if you're installing packages manually you're already doing it wrong imho [10:00] :-) [10:00] ... was waiting for that. [10:01] ... to make tiny package differentiations on a few servers, puppet/ansible/salt/chef are too much work [10:01] ... but, I agree with that, in principle. [10:01] not if you're doing it well :-) [10:02] depends on how many servers you have [10:02] ThatGraemeGuy, touché [10:02] ansible already becomes worth while on >1 server [10:03] mazal: I'm moving quarries if you want to come check just now [10:03] and I find it scary when servers aren't reproducable [10:03] beginning to get everything into config management is a mammoth task, but once everything is in it... [10:03] ... on large numbers of servers, the run time was too long for us, and ended up on a different CM platform [10:04] ... but Ansible was the one I liked most (probably coz it felt like bash scripting) [10:05] Kilos, I'm not having any issues at the moment with repo [10:06] ThatGraemeGuy: Be there in a sec [10:06] ThatGraemeGuy, moving quarries sounds like heavy work ;-) [10:07] if you're a scrawny weakling maybe :-p [10:08] * andrewlsd goes to find some spinach [10:08] ty andrewlsd ill wait to hear back from him [10:09] lol [10:10] andrewlsd maybe Symmetria was updating the mirror [10:11] Wow the alias thing is very useful :) [10:12] mopkop dont break stuff now [10:13] I'll try :) [10:13] lol [10:14] check out Froztbyte's blog, for a clever search from the terminal: #http://blog.froztbyte.net/2011/10/terminal-quicksearch/ [10:15] Is anyone seeing 403 Forbidden responses from za.archive.ubuntu.com ? [10:15] yes [10:16] Kilos also queried that a while ago. [10:16] ha jrgns [10:16] hey Kilos [10:16] try switching to neology [10:16] neology or webafrica [10:16] i find neology the fastest and most up to date one [10:17] za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu || archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu || ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu || ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu || ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/ubuntu/ [10:17] and most stable [10:17] Kewl, thanx [10:17] btw, andrewlsd, are you going to the ansible meetup this week? [10:17] ... I often grab from SUN.ac.za or UCT, since they're Cape... [10:18] jrgns, I didn't know about it. [10:18] * andrewlsd goes looking for info [10:18] let me get you the link [10:19] thanks, jrgns [10:19] http://www.meetup.com/Ansible-Johannesburg/ [10:19] It's Joburg, though, are you in the Cape? [10:20] inetpro check the numbers [10:20] wooo [10:20] jrgns, yip. [10:21] that's a pity [10:22] I've got to be off, meetings. In near 40-degree heat. Wish me luck [10:22] enjoy [10:22] hehe [10:23] Good luck! [10:28] .ping mopkop [10:32] what happens when you do that [10:40] ai! [10:40] ai! / [10:40] ? [10:40] can someone please explain to oom Jan that people hosting the mirrors don't get paid to do the mirroring [10:41] you want to complain then follow the correct channels [10:42] oh my where did he complain [10:42] Email I think [10:42] Unless I'm lost now [10:43] shame the poor old man, he has been battling for weeks with a install on a lappy [10:43] and Kilos please change your posting style when responding to emails on the list [10:44] back to bottom again? [10:44] no [10:44] ai! wat nou [10:45] if you post at the bottom of an email then please cut out the junk, leave only the relevant parts that you are responding to and then start writing your bits [10:46] Just trying the commands, yes that was a typo. [10:46] otherwise just reply at the top like everyone else [10:47] not that everyone else is right of course [10:49] Kilos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style [10:55] i remember big wars on our list about posting to the top so set evo to post at the bottom since then [10:55] but i will change my posting style just for you inetpro [10:55] * Kilos waits for a smile [10:55] Kilos: the way you do it confuses the heck out of me [10:56] always need to figure out who wrote what [10:56] oh my pro confused [10:56] and that is exactly not the reason why you should bottom post [10:56] i thought thats my domain [10:58] sorry oom... not much time here [10:58] * inetpro jumping around between meetings [10:58] np [10:58] while trying to get work done at the same time [10:58] do9nt jump too high you break a leg on the way down [10:58] dont [10:59] * mazal was also told that replying at top is not allowed [11:00] there were big wars about it [11:00] Yeah I rember [11:00] but top posting makes sense [11:00] I was privately mailed and told not to do it again [11:00] lol [11:02] well times seem to have changed, ill top post from now on [11:03] Could it be that Jan Greef is having the same problem as I did yesterday with python? [11:04] he has a lappy that gives nothing but hassles when trying to install ugbuntu [11:04] ubuntu [11:04] maybe the drive is a bit sick [11:06] * mazal see there is a new distro [12:23] hi lin [12:26] Kilos: cut out what is not relevant, then bottom post [12:27] ok ty superfly [12:27] don't leave reams and reams of nonsense, you're wasting people's time and displacing more electrons than usual [12:27] lol [12:27] sorry [12:46] I'm back, guys [12:47] Bye everyone , have a nice evening , God bless [14:27] * not_found had a small window to work on the wiki today and spent all that time to just log into it >.< [14:27] ouch [14:30] mirrors will be back in a bit soon as canonical repoint the dns [14:30] linux being on crack :( [14:31] it renamed /dev/md0 to /dev/md127 on a reboot [14:31] which broke my fstab [14:31] wtf [14:32] Symmetria: add an entry to /etc/mdadm.conf to avoid that next time? [14:40] or use uuids in fstab [14:41] fixed that now :P [14:41] still bizarre it does that [15:06] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/ubuntu-15-04-beta-downloads-now-live-ubuntu-mate-made-an-official-flavor [15:08] anyone use mate? it's a legacy gnome2 desktop? any good? [15:08] i enjoyed it on top of unity [15:09] bit different from gnome2 though [15:09] but nice and fast [15:09] hmm okay [15:10] interesting that they made it an official flavour [15:10] its a way to keep peeps that dont like unity [15:10] clever move i think [15:12] meh, stick to cinnamon.. [15:15] hehe [15:56] wb mopkop [16:07] Thank you Kilos! [16:07] hehe what did you break today? [16:08] Car's rear view mirror... [16:08] oh my, how would one do that? [16:08] oh an outside one [16:09] Apparently press stick doesn't work to fix it. No, the inside one. It just fell off :( [16:09] wow [16:10] lol you like the old granny that said the tree just jumped in front of me [16:11] Yea, like that :) [16:11] I think the heat made the windscreen so hot, the glue melted. [16:11] oh one of those glued to the windscreen [16:11] Hello Magespawn! [16:11] hi magellanic [16:12] ai! [16:12] hi magespawn [16:15] hi Kilos [16:15] hi mopkop [17:39] so whats up? [17:39] in the cape temps [17:40] here not much new [17:43] right then [17:43] indeed [17:49] im in dog box again [17:51] my own fault though for being lazy [17:53] what is wrong now? [17:54] i didnt clean up all the reply to stuffs in mails [17:55] i need someone to blame for me being lazy [17:55] * Kilos face slaps [17:55] there prob sorted [17:56] lol [17:56] what reply to stuff? not really following [17:57] when someone needs help you reply at the bottom but should clean up most of the other stuff above first [17:57] oh right [17:57] just keep whats relevant [17:57] i used to but seem to have forgotten about that [17:58] hi Tonberry why you so quiet lately [17:58] we even moved meetings to tuesdays so it didnt interfere with your beer nights [17:58] ha [18:00] i would not worry about it too much [18:00] na ill remember now and do it right [18:01] needed reminding thats all [18:01] too much bzr and nikola corrupting my ram [18:03] lol [18:05] do you have a link for the ubuntu membership wiki? [18:05] let me see [18:05] which one ? [18:05] where you apply or see our members [18:06] where you added you yesterday or so [18:07] where you apply for ubuntu membership? [18:07] its on our site i think [18:08] you dont apply on a wiki i think [18:08] you go here to #ubuntu-locoteams [18:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember [18:10] ty [18:10] yw [18:11]