[00:00] <daftykins> Bergcube: i suppose, but undernet support would seem more relevant
[00:00] <mntmse> ikonia:  I'm gettin the "missing operating system" message...   i'm guessing this is something to do with my partiions?
[00:00] <mntmse> or maybe a boot loader issue?
[00:00] <ikonia> mntmse: that means it's booting a partition with nothing to boot
[00:01] <Bergcube> daftykins, Sure.  But they don't have a channel here that I can find.  And getting ON undernet is the first step to get the help channel there.
[00:01] <daftykins> not if they have a website
[00:02] <daftykins> naturally i had already thought of that ;)
[00:02] <mntmse> ikonia:  what do you think is the best way to fix?
[00:02] <ikonia> mntmse: install a supported version
[00:02] <ikonia> that would be the first thing
[00:02] <mntmse> ok i will do this
[00:02] <Bergcube> daftykins, They probably do!  But you know...  Inertia...  :-D
[00:03] <ikonia> Bergcube: how we "fix" undernet ?
[00:03] <daftykins> hmm nope don't follow you there.
[00:03] <ikonia> or how do you expect us to ?
[00:03] <mntmse> ikonia:  do you think i need to make that swap partition bigger?
[00:03] <ikonia> the logical thing to do would be to engage with undernet and get the correct settings for your client after verifying the network is up
[00:03] <ikonia> mntmse: that seems a random question considering I don't know how big you set it
[00:03] <Bergcube> ikonia, I do not expect anything.  I am asking for help in case it's in my Ubuntu setup or in the ubuntu provided package.
[00:03] <mntmse> ikonia:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10508238/
[00:04] <ikonia> mntmse: that seems a pointless swap partition size
[00:04] <ikonia> 133mb is worthless
[00:04] <mntmse> i know i made it by mistake
[00:04] <mntmse> i dont know what i was thinking to be honest
[00:04] <mntmse> i should make it 4 gig?
[00:04] <ikonia> you're re-installing, so fix it
[00:05] <daftykins> Bergcube: also - http://www.undernet.org/webchat.php google is wonderful \o/
[00:05] <mntmse> do i need to change anything with the bootloader?
[00:05] <mntmse> i'm using rEFInd
[00:05] <Lovich> what is the linux equivalent of installing a program and having it be contextual with right clicking in windows
[00:07] <ikonia> mntmse: the installer will put the bootloader on
[00:07] <mntmse> ok thanks
[00:07] <mntmse> i will try this tomorrow
[00:07] <mntmse> but i just leave rEFInd on my computer?
[00:08] <Bergcube> daftykins, Thanks.  I do know how to google.  I was there, and the web client timed out without connecting every time.  I would not have been here asking if something as rudimentary as that had worked.  I cannot see that I have been rude or impolite.  I do not feel I have deserved tongue in cheek humour that isn't funny.
[00:09] <McMido> how to search for a file in the terminal ?
[00:09] <McMido> and i shouldn`t really ask that here :D
[00:12] <bekks> McMido: "find /path/ -type f -name "filename"   or   find /path/ -type f | grep "searchstring"
[00:12] <McMido> thanks you.
[00:14] <nrdb> I am booting a VM from nfs ... it is working find :-) .... I purge grub as it wasn't needed and was interfering with updates ... but now whenever I do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it want to reinstall grub .... :-( .... how do I stop this?
[00:15] <daftykins> Bergcube: it's... not meant to be humour at all.
[00:15] <bekks> nrdb: grub shouldnt be interfering with updates at all, unless you are using third party package sources.
[00:16] <nrdb> bekks, yes it does... it keeps asking on what device to install itself on.
[00:16] <bekks> nrdb: So you are booting a diskless vm?
[00:17] <nrdb> nrdb, yes ... via nfs
[00:17] <Bergcube> daftykins, Then the content of the Ubuntu code of conduct must be quite different from what I had the impression it is.  I must have missed the part about trying to ridicule or humiliate those that come looking for help.
[00:18] <daftykins> i promise you, you're getting that yourself
[00:18] <daftykins> i see no point at which i did that, i think you're a bit too sensitive for IRC.
[00:20] <Bubuntu> Hello, i want to fix an usb key
[00:20] <maddawg2> what is the difference betweeen chmod 0777 and chmod 777
[00:20] <maddawg2> ?
[00:21] <nrdb> maddawg2, as far as I know nothing!
[00:21] <bekks> A big difference actually ;)
[00:21] <Bubuntu> do you have tools to fix an usb key ?
[00:21] <k1l> Bubuntu: what means "fix?
[00:22] <Bubuntu> repair
[00:22] <k1l> Bubuntu: or better: what is broken?
[00:22] <bekks> maddawg2: nrdb: See this: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/Numeric-Modes.html#Numeric-Modes
[00:22] <Bubuntu> it's an usb key of my friend (on windows 7) he can't mount it
[00:23] <Bubuntu> sorry, he can't read it
[00:23] <bekks> maddawg2: In detail: specifying the leading 0, you UNSET the special modes described in the link above
[00:25] <nrdb> bekks, oh ... I see small but potentially important difference.
[00:25] <k1l> Bubuntu: it depends on the error you get with that usb drive
[00:26] <k1l> but since usb keys dont have the best storage chips in most cases there is a chance its just gone
[00:26] <Night_girl> Hi so my wifi is not working in Linux, however I tried with cable and it doesn't work either.  The Internet is working as my mobile from which im texting works
[00:27] <bekks> nrdb: 8 bit difference ;)
[00:28] <Night_girl> Can anyone help I just installed 14.04 as discussed
[00:29] <nrdb> bekks, only if those bits where set in the first place, and most times they wouldn't be... but if they where it could be big trouble.
[00:29] <pavlos> Night_girl, I assume 14.04 ... have you enabled networking?
[00:29] <bekks> nrdb: Yeah, indeed.
[00:30] <Night_girl> Helli
[00:31] <voycey> Hi Everyone, does anyone know if there is a package list for snappy on Ubuntu Core?
[00:31] <nrdb> Night_girl, have you tried to see if there any restricted drivers needed by your system?
[00:31] <tnkhanh> hi guys
[00:32] <sudormrf> hey all
[00:33] <j_t> How can I find the boot order on a trusty box? This new systemd/upstart stuff confuses me. I'm used to /etc/rc? runlevels
[00:33] <nrdb> voycey, you can search for packages uses the command 'apt-cache search <something>'
[00:33] <j_t> I'm trying to find out if a program called cloud init runs before some other script
[00:33] <voycey> nrdb: Ubuntu core doesnt use apt-get
[00:33] <voycey> or apt-*
[00:34] <voycey> I can use snappy to search but id just like to see a list of available packages before going to the effort of setting it up
[00:35] <nrdb> I am booting a VM from nfs ... it is working fine :-) .... I purged grub as it wasn't needed and was interfering with updates ... but now whenever I do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it want to reinstall grub .... :-( .... how do I stop this?
[00:37] <muscles> nrdb, maybe try using dpkg? echo "grub hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[00:37] <maddawg2> i know this isn't a vmware channel but i kind of have a ubuntu question....  i increased the size of my drive in vmware esxi and it's placed unallocated space after my Swap partition which is in EXTENDED format and i want to resize my / partition to include the unallocated
[00:38] <bekks> muscles: apt-get hold should do the job.
[00:38] <maddawg2> is it safe to delete the swap partition and increase the space
[00:38] <maddawg2> then recreate it?
[00:38] <muscles> bekks, nice - thanks for the tip
[00:38] <maddawg2> or will that mess up my boot
[00:38] <Night_girl> Wifi
[00:38] <daftykins> maddawg2: swapoff, delete, delete extended, resize /, recreate swap
[00:38] <bekks> maddawg2: when deleting swap, make sure you delete /etc/fstab entry too.
[00:39] <bekks> maddawg2: when just recreating swap, you dont have to delete the fstab entry
[00:39] <Night_girl> Let's see it works fine, I'm able to connect I get an IP address etc this is an easy one. Last time it was cause Firefox came wit an option. To use systems proxy so I just disabled it and said no procy
[00:40] <maddawg2> bekks good to know
[00:40] <maddawg2> thanks
[00:40] <Night_girl> So I do not know why is not working this time :(
[00:40] <maddawg2> so if i just delete the extended then expand my drive and turn swap back on I wont need to change anything
[00:41] <maddawg2> in fstab that is
[00:41] <maddawg2> since swap will be back on
[00:45] <Bashing-om> Night_girl: Terninal command -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- completes ?
[00:47] <nrdb> muscles, thanks the command 'echo "grub-common hold" | dpkg --set-selections' seemed to fix things
[00:48] <muscles> nrdb, no prob - i forgot the name of the grub package - nice catch
[00:49] <j_t> I'm trying to use update-rc.d to have a scrip start at a certain point on boot, say defaults 70, or say 80, or 99. but I want to make sure it starts after cloudinit. Does anyone know how to find out how say something like cloudinit which uses upstart... boots relative to something using update-rc.d?
[00:49] <j_t> How can I figure out what runlevel this would correlate to for cloudinit/upstart
[00:49] <bekks> !upstart | j_t
[00:50] <j_t> bekks: Does that mean you don't know the answer?
[00:51] <bekks> j_t: upstart does not correlate to SYSV, it replaces it.
[00:51] <bekks> j_t: Did you take a look at that link?
[00:51] <j_t> bekks: well sysv is still available for backwards compatibility
[00:51] <bryan> can 14.10 be downgraded back to 14.04
[00:51] <bekks> j_t: Yeah, and runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5 are mapped to the same result.
[00:51] <bekks> bryan: No.
[00:51] <k1l> bryan: no
[00:52] <nrdb> j_t, I put custom stuff like that in '/etc/rc.local'
[00:52] <bekks> nrdb: Dont do that. Instead, create a proper service definition for upstart.
[00:55] <j_t> https://devuan.org/
[00:55] <j_t> haha, I just found that while searching google
[00:55] <j_t> amusing
[00:56] <Secret-Fire> please help i cant add this repository : http://pastebin.com/n8hwYMta
[00:56] <bekks> Secret-Fire: Are you running debian?
[00:57] <k1l> Secret-Fire: kali linux has nothing to do with ubuntu
[00:57] <Secret-Fire> bekks : yes
[00:57] <bekks> Secret-Fire: So please seek their support then.
[00:59] <spaceindaver> Hi all, I am experiencing intermittent crashes when running applications with primusrun. The applications run fine but everything freezes when I try to close it. I am running Ubuntu 14.10 with nvidia 340 driver. Any ideas?
[01:04] <voycey> why is cdimage.ubuntu.com SO horrifically slow?
[01:05] <bekks> voycey: Because people are actually using it :)
[01:05] <voycey> I feel like its the 90's again - 32kb/s download :(
[01:06] <VolUTFan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:06] <VolUTFan> maybe that will help you
[01:06] <voycey> they dont have ubuntu core on them :(
[01:09] <VolUTFan> what do you mean by ubuntu-core?  you mean the bare minimum installation of ubuntu?
[01:09] <k1l> i think he means the new snappy ubuntu.
[01:10] <VolUTFan> never heard of snappy..  is it a spinoff of the ubuntu distro?
[01:10] <k1l> VolUTFan: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[01:11] <voycey> its for Docker
[01:11] <bekks> Docker, thats a thing now, is it?
[01:14] <locsmif> Hi all. Is it normal that lsmod and /proc/modules show no output on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS on a VPS?
[01:15] <k1l> locsmif: that is possible for some (old) vserver technologies
[01:16] <locsmif> k1l: I'm using Strato, and their kernel version is: 3.13.0-042stab092.3
[01:18] <k1l> locsmif: its not the kernel its the technic. so if its eopnvz or such its a common issue. if you need modules talk to the hoster
[01:18] <locsmif> k1l: thanks for elaborating.
[01:19] <t0th_-_> hi
[01:19] <t0th_-_> i am using rcconf but is not savind my changes, how i can solve this?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> win 7
[01:21] <locsmif> k1l: some German talk on a Debian forum seems to confirm what you're saying for Strato.
[01:22] <k1l> locsmif: seems like they use virtuozzo and that is a known issue there
[01:22] <locsmif> k1l: ah, I was trying to find that out but couldn't... where did you get more info?
[01:23] <locsmif> k1l: nvm :) German, but informative (I happen to understand German, so, that helps :) http://blog.strato.de/server-sicher-konfigurieren/
[01:24] <Bubuntu> help
[01:24] <Bubuntu> i can see my usb key in disk utilitary
[01:24] <k1l> locsmif: yes, down there in an comment a employee tells they use virtuozzo
[01:25] <Bubuntu> but i can't mount it
[01:25] <k1l> Bubuntu: what tells you "dmesg" after you have put the usb drive in?
[01:25] <Bubuntu> with fdisk -l, i can't see it
[01:25] <teoma> Is it possible to use sudo somehow rather than having mount.ecryptfs_private setuid?  The problem I'm running into is that it then looks for the private directory in /root instead of $HOME.
[01:27] <Bubuntu> i can't copy
[01:28] <Bubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10509098/
[01:28] <locsmif> teoma: the man page doesn't reference directly accessing /root : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/man1/mount.ecryptfs_private.1.html
[01:29] <TerryC> I'm trying to install 14.04.2-server and it doesn't matter if I use a dvd, flash drive, or cd, I get a bunch of mount errors and an extremely slow install. I'm using a xeon on a 8gt/s motherboard, so I can't really guess why this is going so slow. Anyone know why all the mount errors? I've tried multiple iso's and multiple media types.
[01:29] <TerryC> making me question if this is really ready to be out in the public...
[01:30] <k1l> Bubuntu: its "sdb"
[01:30] <Bubuntu> it's a question ?
[01:31] <Loshki> TerryC: I'm still on 12.04.4 because it's solid as a rock.
[01:31] <locsmif> teoma: so it seems $HOME genuinely contains /root, since the only setuid operation according to the manpage is the call to mount(8) or umount(8) ?
[01:31] <Bubuntu> k1l, the name of my usb key is : Generic USB Flash Disk (7.76) in disk utilitary
[01:31] <k1l> TerryC: did you md5sum the isos?
[01:32] <TerryC> loshki: I am starting to think that might be the right route to go. 14 seems to be very flaky.
[01:32] <k1l> Bubuntu: it gets linked to the /dev/sdb device. so where is the issue now?
[01:32] <TerryC> k1l: no, I downloaded using 3 different pc's, so I assumed on eof them got it right, but same results.
[01:33] <Bubuntu> i can't mount it
[01:33] <k1l> TerryC: well. we will never know if you dont check the md5sum. you could also research if there are known issues with your hardware. i bet someone would have mentioned it already if that was a common thing
[01:33] <Bubuntu> i can't to see the content of my key
[01:34] <Loshki> TerryC: also, what k1l said...
[01:34] <locsmif> Bubuntu: best provide the error you get
[01:34] <TerryC> I'm currently trying to use the cd I downloaded whiel at work
[01:34] <TerryC> I'll run the integrity check and see what it says
[01:34] <locsmif> TerryC: you can check the CD or the ISO, same difference.
[01:35] <teoma> locsmif: Yes, sudo is changing HOME.  This may be related to the env_keep setting in the sudoers file.
[01:35] <Bubuntu> http://www.noelshack.com/2015-10-1425344389-capture-du-2015-03-03-01-59-21.png
[01:35] <Bubuntu> http://www.noelshack.com/2015-10-1425344620-capture-du-2015-03-03-02-03-17.png
[01:35] <Loshki> TerryC: a badly burned cd/dvd needing a lot of retries might produce exactly those symptoms...
[01:36] <Bubuntu> sorry for the french GUI
[01:36] <locsmif> teoma: sudo -E perhaps?
[01:36] <Bubuntu> if i push the button to ON, it change nothing
[01:36] <locsmif> You want to keep the environment of the user you are elevating from, right?
[01:37] <Loshki> locsmif: or just try setting HOME explicitly, manually, to what you want before you invoke the mount command?
[01:37] <teoma> locsmif: Thanks, yes!  That looks very helpful.
[01:41] <hardtail> anyone familiar with installing Ubuntu on a Mac so it can dual boot? I followed the guide and installed rEFInd Boot Manager successfully. when I rebooted and started the usb I made it to GRUB and selected Try Ubuntu. No device controller found is all that appears on the next screen
[01:42] <locsmif> Bubuntu: can you open a terminal and do: sudo blkid /dev/sdb ?
[01:42] <locsmif> Just a thought
[01:42] <ChrisF-> hi everyone.  I installed google-chrome-stable using apt.  If I go to unity and type Google Chrome, I can click the icon and it opens.  I then lock it to the launcher.  But, if I closei t and click teh launcher icon, it doesn't open.  Any idea why?
[01:43] <Bubuntu> yes, wait a moment locsmif
[01:44] <Bubuntu> nothing locsmif
[01:44] <locsmif> k1l: it gets weirder. fdisk -l returns nothing, cannot read from the root device.. strange stuff, virtuozzo
[01:46] <locsmif> Bubuntu: if you put that USB stick into a different machine now, can you see any files on it there?
[01:46] <Bubuntu> i haven't different machine
[01:48] <Bubuntu> i stop here, thanks for all
[01:48] <locsmif> dd if=/dev/sdb count=1 | hexdump -C
[01:48] <locsmif> okay
[01:48] <locsmif> Sorry I couldn't help you further, Bubuntu
[01:48] <locsmif> Bubuntu: wait a minute
[01:48] <hardtail> no device controller has to do with the installer finding my gpu right?
[01:48] <locsmif> Bubuntu: were there supposed to be files on the USB stick in the first place?
[01:48] <Patero> can I ask a question
[01:49] <locsmif> Patero: shoot
[01:49] <Patero> what is bubuntu
[01:49] <Bubuntu> i don't know, good night and thantks
[01:50] <locsmif> Heh. What if Bubuntu just wanted to format an USB stick for use?
[01:50] <locsmif> He took off before we got there. Oh well.
[01:51] <locsmif> Patero: apparently: http://bubuntu.net/Bubuntu.html
[01:51] <eikon81g> Anyone have time to help with a bluetooth issue?
[01:51] <eikon81g>  I looked into it a bit and it seems like it may be a bug in xubuntu but I saw some possible fixes regarding edits to audio.conf
[01:52] <eikon81g> I get the error: Connection Failed: Stream setup failed after adding the device (JBL Pulse BT Speaker) and trying to use audio sink
[01:52] <locsmif> eikon81g: for what it's worth: using regular Ubuntu, I was able to connect and use bluetooth speakers which didn't work under Win 7
[01:53] <locsmif> I'm a bit of an audio guy. But what is audio sink/
[01:53] <eikon81g> well that's hopeful lol, It's odd because the adapter is present and funtioning but for whatever reason the bluetooth manager won't allow the stream to initialize
[01:53] <muscles> locsmif, people will probably correct me, but i believe it is just an audio output
[01:54] <eikon81g> basically after pairing the speaker you select the audio sink for that device and the audio will output through the selected device
[01:54] <locsmif> eikon81g: when you say stream, are you just trying to play a wav or an mp3?
[01:55] <eikon81g> well it is before you can get to that it has to pair successfully before any audio could output
[01:55] <locsmif> eikon81g: I have to add that I had to fiddle like ten times with some on/off switch in the configuration before I got it working.
[01:55] <voycey> bekks: Docker is indeed a thing :)
[01:55] <locsmif> eikon81g: so pairing does work, or?
[01:55] <eikon81g> my adapter is enabled and sees the bluetooth device I am trying to pair to it just fails
[01:55] <locsmif> ok
[01:56] <eikon81g> it does, I can "trust" the device and I use the 0000 pin to connect it
[01:56] <locsmif> Hmm, I never had to enter a pin code
[01:56] <eikon81g> but once I set it to "Audio Sync" to use it as an output device it gives me the error
[01:56] <eikon81g> most devices no longer need the pin but if it does ask 0000 is generally universal
[01:57] <eikon81g> **"Audio Sink"
[01:57] <TerryC> So, thisis kinda weird, but it seems my problem was being caused because bios was reporting that I had a 1.44mb floppy drive, but I don't because... well, because. who uses those anymore. But ubuntu server was repeatedly trying to mount it and failing over and over, causing delays and errors in dmesg.
[01:58] <TerryC> once I disabled it in bios (not sure why it was on in the first place) it's now working like 80% faster
[01:59] <OerHeks> TerryC, after a bios reset, floppy is turned on standard
[01:59] <locsmif> eikon81g: is this related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1283003
[01:59] <eikon81g> locsmif checking.
[02:01] <eikon81g> I don't think so mine is regarding the error Stream Failed to connect
[02:01] <eikon81g> **Connection Failed: Stream setup failed
[02:01] <eikon81g> sorry
[02:02] <locsmif> eikon81g: and this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/329278/connection-failed-stream-setup-failed-when-using-a2dp
[02:03] <locsmif> Well, I have to admit I'm just launching trial balloons here.
[02:03] <eikon81g> http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03022015-080213pm.php
[02:04] <locsmif> hey, nice FF skin! :)
[02:05] <eikon81g> lol
[02:05] <eikon81g> thx.. I am looking at that one it is close but I don't know if it is exactly the same I may try some of the commands
[02:06] <locsmif> eikon81g: since you're using xubuntu, you might try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144841
[02:06] <locsmif> My last wild guess, I can't test, only you can :)
[02:06] <eikon81g> I think I can narrow it down to something in the audio.conf just not sure which changes need to be made
[02:06] <eikon81g> checking that one now
[02:06] <locsmif> eikon81g: they are discussing inserting sleep commands in that thread, near the end. Some other things as well.
[02:06] <poo-and-nachos> hi
[02:07] <poo-and-nachos> what kernal does lubuntu use?
[02:07] <locsmif> eikon81g: this stands out to me a little: "Device doesnt require a pin, but in blueman your forced to enter one"
[02:08] <locsmif> It almost feels as if this is analogous to a WIFI connection with the wrong PSK set.
[02:08] <eikon81g> yea, it may be something to do with it but whats so weird is the speaker actually beeps like it is paired and connected to audio and then it drops the connection within about a second
[02:09] <eikon81g> I see what you are saying I actually tried alternate pins like 1234 and a few others and it would report back authentication failed
[02:09] <eikon81g> I'm leaning on a bug but it seems that it's a forgotten topic
[02:10] <k1l> poo-and-nachos: which lubuntu?
[02:10] <poo-and-nachos> 14.10
[02:10] <locsmif> eikon81g: aha
[02:10] <k1l> poo-and-nachos: 3.16
[02:10] <poo-and-nachos> latest one I beleave
[02:10] <poo-and-nachos> thank you
[02:10] <eikon81g> I think the pin is good it takes an initial connection but then the error pops up
[02:11] <locsmif> eikon81g: if it were me in your shoes, I'd start doing everything manually, from the terminal, step-by-step where possible to isolate the error
[02:11] <locsmif> Also this: "I'm not familiar with xubuntu but do you have just the regular bluetooth assistant? I found that blueman doesn't work, but as soon as I remove/purge it, everything works just fine. I have to re-add the device every time, but it's better than no bluetooth audio at all."
[02:11] <eikon81g> k I can try that out the blueman bluetooth software may be to blame
[02:11] <locsmif> yep
[02:12] <Siente> Hello guys, when I scan the ubuntu disk for errors from my USB it's giving me 2 erros is it normal?
[02:12] <eikon81g> ok I am gonna dig in a little bit thanks man
[02:12] <locsmif> you're welcome, I hope it works out
[02:12] <eikon81g> :)
[02:12] <eikon81g> I'll pop back in and let you know in a bit
[02:13] <locsmif> eikon81g: "Without music, life would be a mistake.." -- Nietzsche
[02:13] <locsmif> ;-)
[02:13] <eikon81g> nice, that's a jewel :)
[02:13] <locsmif> Siente: what kind of errors?
[02:14] <Siente> locsmif, it's just saying errors found in 2 files!
[02:15] <locsmif> Siente: are you booting from USB to scan your harddrive?
[02:15] <hardtail> so my hdd has no encryption on it, still get the error when trying to install 'i8042 no controller found', I added in i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset to my boot flags but still the same error and response from my machine, keyboard lit and then freezes. anyone have an idea ?
[02:15] <Siente> locsmif, yes from usb
[02:16] <locsmif> Siente: ok. Can't say I know what to tell you from so little info :)
[02:16] <Siente> and I am using the Universal USB Installer 1.9.5.9 on windows for creating the usb stick
[02:18] <Siente> locsmif, MD5 Check Sums are the same so the iso file is okay
[02:19] <locsmif> Siente: but the errors reported are on your harddisk, right? Not on your USB device... that you aren't scanning, you said.
[02:19] <locsmif> Or implied, rather.
[02:20] <locsmif> hardtail: from what I can tell i8042 is an old keyboard controller not in use anymore
[02:20] <locsmif> What does this have to do with hdd encryption?
[02:20] <Siente> locsmif, when I boot from the USB and when I choose Check disc for defects it's giving me 2 erros found
[02:20] <hardtail> locsmif I found the same error on stack overflow and the user had to turn of disk encryption to get his to work - then another like me who has done that and the error still persists
[02:21] <Siente> http://askubuntu.com/questions/498794/md5-says-the-checksum-is-correct-but-still-check-finished-errors-found-in-2-fi
[02:21] <Siente> same problem
[02:22] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully
[02:25] <locsmif> Siente: maybe it's related to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[02:26] <locsmif> hardtail: are you installing to a Macbook Pro?
[02:26] <hardtail> yes locsmif, I found another article saying to try with 'nomodeset' so I will go try this
[02:27] <hardtail> I will brb
[02:27] <Siente> locsmif, I am able to install the OS I mean here https://www.howtoforge.com/images/ubuntu_14.10_utopic_unicorn_minimal_server/2.png when I choose Check disc for defects
[02:28] <Siente> It's saying errors found in 2 files
[02:30] <locsmif> Siente: I understand. Have you read the link I posted and the responses?
[02:33] <Siente> locsmif, but he's not able to install the OS there?
[02:33] <locsmif> Siente: that's not what I'm reading :)
[02:34] <locsmif> They're seeing file name cut-off based errors, they're proposing workarounds, and they've also tried other means of installing to USB, which worked
[02:35] <Siente> locsmif, ah okay
[02:36] <hardtail> Locsmif it worked with nomodeset. I am now in the installer and when I select my free space it tells me not root file system defined please correct this from the partitioning menu
[02:38] <voycey> is there a way to see what repository was used to install something in ubuntu?
[02:38] <locsmif> hardtail: nomodeset relates to graphical mode settings of your video card. So it appears your latest problem was caused by interoperability problems with your onboard video card. As for the problem you're having now: it seems you need to partition your harddisk before installing.
[02:39] <eikon81g> bluetooth fail. LOL I think I will end up just scrapping blueman and using pulse audio but I already know it will mess up my hardkeys for the vlume up down and mute on this machine
[02:39] <eikon81g> so I am thinking is it really worth it.. LOL
[02:39] <locsmif> voycey: apt-cache show <package> may help. There should be a line saying "Origin"
[02:40] <shamaan> hallo!! is somebody from holland here..??
[02:40] <shamaan> :p
[02:40] <hardtail> Locsmif makes sense. How can I go about partitioning the free space, must it be done outside the installer?  It only allows me to modify my os x partition
[02:41] <aeon-ltd> shamaan: do you have a support question?
[02:41] <shamaan> noo... :(
[02:41] <voycey> locsmif: they all just show Ubuntu - pretty sure they came from PPA's
[02:42] <locsmif> shamaan: me
[02:42] <locsmif> eikon81g: damn
[02:43] <eikon81g> yea, It's a 50/50 I guess I could remove blueman (since it's bugged anyway) and try another manager
[02:43] <k1l> voycey: apt-cache policy package
[02:43] <eikon81g> I am looking into that now
[02:43] <voycey> k1l: perfect thanks :)
[02:43] <locsmif> eikon81g: I do remember that I forgot that volume was handled by my laptop and no longer by the volume dial on the speakers when I got it working, I damn near blew my ears off
[02:44] <eikon81g> lol whoops..
[02:44] <locsmif> hardtail: you're going for dual boot?
[02:45] <TerryC> when i tried to bring up one of my ethernet interfaces, I got a "leaking memory" error... downloading the drivers now, but still, that seems a tadbit bad.
[02:45] <hardtail> Yes sir
[02:45] <locsmif> oof... you may need to use an advanced partioning tool like Acronis to make space first
[02:45] <TerryC> it's a intel i210 gigabit adapter, I didn't get that error with my dual port 10gigabit card though... just the i210
[02:46] <locsmif> hardtail: or is there free space on the disk already/
[02:46] <TerryC> might just be an error with the inbox driver
[02:46] <Hardtail> locsmif i used osx's disk utility to create 100 gb of free space, not sure if that was ok
[02:46] <locsmif> Hardtail: ah, that's good :)
[02:47] <Hardtail> but it would not give me the option to format it in the installer
[02:47] <locsmif> Hardtail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/462360/macbook-air-how-to-install-a-dual-bootable-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[02:48] <locsmif> "At partitioning stage, select manual partitioning, select as your / partition the partition that you created in Disk Utility (and swap if you created a partition for that)"
[02:48] <locsmif> I would create a swap partition, too.
[02:49] <Hardtail> hmm  odd when I got to that stage and selected it all the options were greyed out, only the partitions for my OSX could be altered
[02:49] <eikon81g> hey what format is the partition in? hfs or fat?
[02:50] <eikon81g> the reason the installer may not see it is because the format of the partition may not be recognizable..
[02:50] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully
[02:50] <locsmif> Hardtail: you're supposed to create a new partition in the empty space..
[02:50] <eikon81g> (just a thought) I think I started out with a FAT partition
[02:51] <Hardtail> yes I understand that locsmif but it won't let me create a partition in it
[02:51] <locsmif> Does it even show the empty space?
[02:51] <Hardtail> bah, it's probably me doing this all incorrectly :D
[02:51] <Hardtail> yes it does
[02:52] <eikon81g> what format is the partition when you see it in osx?
[02:53] <Hardtail> it says free space only
[02:53] <eikon81g> so in OSx disk utility does it show the Mac OS partition only?
[02:54] <eikon81g> the free space is good but to utilize it you need to create a partition on that space to separate it from your osx partition
[02:54] <Hardtail> that is correct eikon81g
[02:55] <Hardtail> ah, so that was my mistake then
[02:55] <eikon81g> right but BE CAREFUL
[02:55] <eikon81g> when you start messing with partitions it's easy to mess things us and trash your osx partition and lose all your data
[02:55] <locsmif> What about this? http://cdn5.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-mac-os-x.png
[02:56] <Hardtail> yeah that option was not there locsmif
[02:56] <locsmif> I guess you never got that far..
[02:56] <eikon81g> ^^ locsmif is good there are some tutorials and instructions available for dualbooting a mac
[02:56] <Hardtail> well I installed the boot manager and everything, just needed the right flags
[02:56] <eikon81g> I would look for a step by step on how to dual boot a mac so that you don't lose any data or cause yourself grief
[02:57] <eikon81g> ok well I was just chiming in on the partition question you have me beat with the rest but it sounds like you still need a valid partition to install onto
[02:57] <locsmif> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/dual-boot-os-ubuntu <- "Proceed to install Ubuntu on the .free space. partition you created earlier. Ubuntu may prompt you to install it on freespace (double check the size) or, if it doesn.t or you just want to be super-cautious choose the .Advanced. option from the partition screen."
[02:58] <eikon81g> so I would find the best way to allocate some of your free disk space into a new partition without wrecking your working osx install
[02:58] <locsmif> Did you chose the "Advanced" option? ;)
[02:58] <Hardtail> yes..that's what I was descrbing the buttons greyed out
[02:59] <Hardtail> and those guides are outdated that version of the bootloader is no longer ind evelopment
[02:59] <eikon81g> ^^ you got it locsmif good luck yall.. sorry I can't help more I am ballsdeep on my issue atm LOL
[02:59] <locsmif> Well I give up
[02:59] <locsmif> eikon81g: just make sure you turn the volume down ;)
[02:59] <Hardtail> hahaha
[02:59] <eikon81g> I think a workaround for that issue is to have a partition ready to go when you load up the ubuntu installer.....
[02:59] <Hardtail> eikon81g i can partition the free space as exfat
[02:59] <eikon81g> LOL yes sir ty
[03:00] <locsmif> exfat?
[03:00] <eikon81g> so manually creating a partition using OSx maybe one way to get it done
[03:00] <Hardtail> i can partition it as mac os journalled ex fat or dos
[03:01] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully
[03:01] <locsmif> Hardtail: that won't work, I would guess..
[03:01] <eikon81g> exfat or fat should work to get your ubuntu installer to see the partition
[03:01] <Hardtail> right now osx sees both partitions
[03:01] <Hardtail> this should work guys thanks. i will brb
[03:02] <eikon81g> see if u use the os x disk utility to partition some of the free space you have then you can get ubuntu to install on that partition
[03:02] <eikon81g> ok.. be careful don't over write your osx partition
[03:02] <locsmif> But can Ubuntu boot from exFAT?
[03:02] <eikon81g> it sees exfat in the ubuntu installer
[03:02] <eikon81g> Idk if it is native to ubuntu or not
[03:03] <eikon81g> well if he pops back in he should try just FAT that's bound to be accessible
[03:03] <eikon81g> it puckers up my butthole when it gets down to messing with the partitions because I hate to trash stuff by accident lol
[03:04] <eikon81g> I ran into an issue earlier and got some great help on this channel
[03:04] <eikon81g> the LVM feature has a bug and it made my /boot partition way small
[03:05] <eikon81g> the guys got me going but to repair it I need to re-install and I was like well crap so needless to say I am saving that for another day LOL
[03:05] <locsmif> Yeah, LVM can be difficult
[03:06] <eikon81g> I think hardtail will get it tho.. sounds like he was close and he had the boot loader already working so hopefully he gets it
[03:06] <eikon81g> Yea, they said there was a bug report on it but I was unaware until they walked me through some steps and looked @ my partition sizes smh.. some people are so good it makes me sick LOL
[03:07] <locsmif> The problem is you seem to be wanting to help him get his free space *visible* by partitioning it and *formatting* it with an exFAT or other FAT-based filesystem, which doesn't work for Ubuntu installations, except for configurations such as ISOLINUX and the like.
[03:07] <eikon81g> humm.. I was just under the impression he was lacking a second partition at all..
[03:08] <locsmif> Well, let's see what happens, I'm curious
[03:08] <locsmif> We're indemnified, right?
[03:08] <eikon81g> me 2 lol I just remember when I installed xubuntu and ubuntu I started with a fat partition on my drive idk
[03:09] <eikon81g> indemnified indeed.. hopefully I didn't cause a boo boo
[03:09] <eikon81g> lolll
[03:10] <locsmif> What I'm really missing here is a boot-time TeamViewer to help hardtail install Ubuntu remotely
[03:10] <eikon81g> I run an mac sometimes I just like os x too much to use anything else on that machine..
[03:10] <eikon81g> yea, Teamviewer is a lifesaver
[03:11] <locsmif> eikon81g: well I haven't seen the guy yet. I'm out.. Cheerio! lol.
[03:11] <locsmif> hardtail: hi. We were just talking about you
[03:11] <locsmif> How's it going? ;)
[03:12] <hardtail> hahaha just peachy my friend XD
[03:12] <locsmif> hardtail: great!
[03:12] <locsmif> We're available for children's parties too
[03:13] <hardtail> it was able to read the drive after formatting it in disk utility
[03:13] <hardtail> lol ^
[03:14] <locsmif> hardtail: so now you're able to install?
[03:14] <hardtail> yes when i assigned a mount directory of / it would work but asked me to create a swap partition
[03:16] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully
[03:16] <eikon81g> Locsmif you're up! LOL
[03:16] <locsmif> hardtail: you assigned that to a different partition than the OSX parition, yes? And you formatted the partition you assigned / to with a file system Ubuntu supports?
[03:17] <locsmif> eikon81g: hold my confetti, I'm going in
[03:17] <TerryC> When I reboot, my eth1 is down, and I have to manually bring it up. Any idea how to make it come up normally?
[03:17] <hardtail> locsmif yes, i created 140 gbs as exfat. it will allow me to format it as ext4 and then assign mounting point of / but it asked me to create another partition for swapping otherwise memory issues can occur, so it says
[03:18] <locsmif> TerryC: /etc/network/interfaces would be interesting in this regard. But it may contain some privacy sensitive information, such as your public ip address.
[03:18] <locsmif> hardtail: how much memory do you have?
[03:18] <hardtail> 16gb
[03:18] <TerryC> locsmif: I set my ip addresses in there, but it still comes up disabled.
[03:19] <locsmif> hardtail: oh, forget about swap then. It's very much recommended, but with 16GB of memory, well.. I'd take the gamble.
[03:19] <locsmif> You could repartition later, maybe.
[03:19] <TerryC> and if I manually up eth1 it does not use the ip I set in interfaces
[03:19] <locsmif> hardtail: it's just that it's been a rough ride even getting to this point, I suggest moving forward
[03:20] <locsmif> TerryC: I was more or less suggesting you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces, so we could look at it, perhaps with some sensitive info obscured with x's.
[03:21] <hardtail> understood locsmif. well, sort of a curve ball here. this laptop is an i7, 16gb ram, has a dedicated gpu. if i just installed ubuntu in virtualbox would the performance be drastically different from native boot? i wont be running any 3d applications
[03:21] <locsmif> Well, why would you install in Virtualbox now?
[03:21] <locsmif> You're nearly there!
[03:21] <eikon81g> lol
[03:21] <locsmif> I would avoid Virtualbox, it's nice but inferior compared to Vmware
[03:22]  * eikon81g dropped the confetti
[03:22] <locsmif> So you may run into some problems using Virtualbox you wouldn't otherwise have, indeed.
[03:22] <hardtail> no worries it was just a thought
[03:22] <locsmif> hardtail: I wish I could connect to your box remotely so I could see this installation screen for myself. I could easily switch to a terminal and do the patitioning manually
[03:23] <eikon81g> my vote is on the standalone install as well too many variables with virtualbox
[03:23] <locsmif> I'm oldschool, I'm not germane to all these fancy GUI installers
[03:23] <TerryC> locsmif: I spelled auto atuo :)
[03:23] <locsmif> TerryC: ! =)
[03:23] <TerryC> that's why it wasn't coming up :)
[03:23] <hardtail> im actually installing this to take a linux course locsmif lol
[03:23] <locsmif> TerryC: I figured as much.
[03:23] <xubuntu25w> How do you compile a source code without install.sh? I try to compile this one: https://github.com/irssi/irssi
[03:24] <locsmif> hardtail: haha
[03:24] <hardtail> ok well if you guys don't think the memory swap isnt a big deal then ill just proceed the way it is
[03:24] <locsmif> xubuntu25w: make
[03:24] <eikon81g> oh man.. well mention us in your notes!! lol JKJK
[03:24] <xubuntu25w> locsmif: I know but it doesn't work
[03:24] <Guest79115> socal?
[03:24] <hardtail> i will for sure :p
[03:24] <eikon81g> hardtail when it asks you to create the partition why can't you?
[03:25] <eikon81g> it's kind of just an automated part of the install I saw that too
[03:25] <locsmif> hardtail: with 16GB? No.. you're like 10GB clean of any problems, unless, perhaps, you go nuts in a browser like Chrome or Firefox
[03:25] <eikon81g> haha ^^
[03:25] <hardtail> nono it will let me I believe eikon81g i just came back on osx to make another partition for swap lol
[03:25] <hardtail> but i dont need to now
[03:26] <eikon81g> to be honest I just cruised through that part
[03:26] <eikon81g> I would let the ubuntu installer do it's own thing don't do it manually
[03:26] <locsmif> hardtail: moreover, if you were to actually create a swap partition, it would have to be ~16GB or perhaps even 20 or 32GB.
[03:26] <eikon81g> you could omit the swap like locsmif says or just let the installer create you a partition
[03:27] <eikon81g> locsmif this is the second person today I've seen in this channel that had to install ubuntu as part of a class
[03:27] <locsmif> Well, good! My college years weren't half as cool
[03:27] <eikon81g> you taking students this semester?
[03:27] <TerryC> As a general rule, I usually set my swapspace to 1.5x the amount of ram. so for 4gb=6gb swap, 8gb=12gb swap... and so on
[03:27]  * eikon81g signs up
[03:27]  * tnkhanh says hi and waves hand to everyone
[03:27] <TerryC> but to each their own, it's just a easy way for me to figure it, and I usually round up to the next gb
[03:28] <eikon81g> I was reading about that today a little bit, good tip
[03:28] <hardtail> well maybe not a traditional class in the sense eikon81g lol
[03:28] <eikon81g> lol
[03:28] <tnkhanh> hi guys
[03:28] <hardtail> linux foundation edx, just want to learn
[03:28] <Guest79115> hi
[03:28] <locsmif> TerryC: thing is, 16GB memory will net you 24GB swap space that way. And 16GB is what hardtail here has :)
[03:28] <TerryC> You never really seem to notice how much swap space you need till you have too little :)
[03:29] <locsmif> hardtail: may I say I'm rather jealous at your hardware specs?
[03:29] <eikon81g> hardtail I think if you just let the installer create you a new partition it will be fine use the default settings it brings up and next on through
[03:29] <locsmif> hardtail: so what do you intend on doing? Run a simulation of the universe?
[03:29] <eikon81g> I agree locsmif.. I am upset.
[03:29] <TerryC> locsmif: I've got servers with 128gb and 512gb ram, and I still follow that rule..
[03:30] <eikon81g> good god. LOL
[03:30]  * eikon81g walks away with head down
[03:30] <locsmif> TerryC: have you checked back with swap usage?
[03:31] <locsmif> My 8GB ram-carrying VPS has no swap at all
[03:31] <TerryC> locsmif: never really paid any attention to swap usage, these servers are pushing 40gbit nics, and the swapspace is probably rarely even used if at all unless being used for Chariot controllers
[03:31] <locsmif> TerryC: great stuff
[03:32] <hardtail> lol i intend to take over the interwebz locsmif *dr evil voice*. well this laptop i actually thought was dead but just going to use it to learn linux for the time being
[03:32] <eikon81g> smh.. pass it this way when your done! lol
[03:32] <TerryC> I work at intel in CSIG (Computing Server Information Group) and we basically play around with servers and try to see what we can break, before the product ships.
[03:32] <eikon81g> hey locsmif!! I got my bluetooth working!
[03:32] <locsmif> hardtail: dead?!?
[03:32] <hardtail> i will be back in a couple, going to complete the install, thank you all
[03:32] <eikon81g> Installed pulseaudio bluetooth and initialized it
[03:32] <locsmif> hardtail: good luck
[03:33] <hardtail> yes ill fill you in when i get back
[03:33] <eikon81g> np! good luck
[03:33] <locsmif> eikon81g: =))
[03:33] <eikon81g> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth and then sudo pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover < BOOM!
[03:34] <locsmif> TerryC:  :(){ :|:& };:  ?
[03:34] <TerryC> forkbombs! yummy
[03:34] <locsmif> eikon81g: so what changed exactly?
[03:35] <locsmif> TerryC: would be a great waste of such hardware
[03:35] <TerryC> I did that on a quad xeon with 1tb ram, took about 5 or 6 minutes to run out of resources
[03:35] <locsmif> TerryC: do you use testing frameworks at all?
[03:35] <eikon81g> well i needed to install the pulse audio bluetooth module for whatever reason
[03:36] <locsmif> eikon81g: lol! Now what reason could that possibly be?
[03:36] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully
[03:36] <eikon81g> and after that I had to run the command to load the module and then in blueman it connected without an error
[03:36] <TerryC> we mostly custom build for the tests we do, but we use IXIA chassis, Chariot, and Lauterbach/pcie analyzers
[03:36] <locsmif> eikon81g: I need to remember what you did because I may run into it myself
[03:36] <eikon81g> then in the audio settings I changed the audio device from built in speakers to the now present jbl pulse in the list :)
[03:36] <eikon81g>  sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth and then sudo pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[03:37] <eikon81g> I had made some edits to my /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf but they seem to be fine as of now once I installed the pulse bluetooth module it was easier to work with
[03:37] <locsmif> TerryC: well, you have an awesome job, I tell you that.
[03:38] <locsmif> eikon81g: excellent
[03:38] <eikon81g> yea I envy TerryC
[03:38] <locsmif> TerryC: sounds almost like you're supplying IXPs
[03:38] <eikon81g> yea hopefully you don't run into it.. what a mess
[03:39] <eikon81g> considering i got 2 cheap ass bluetooth adapters off amazon for 2.00 shipped I am happy! lol
[03:40] <TerryC> In my department, we take stuff that is nearly ready for the market, and test them, try to break them, so that we can fix it before a customer breaks them in these ways.
[03:40] <lasko> Also known as Quality Assurance
[03:41] <TerryC> like, setup a tagged vxlan between multiple switches, generate traffic over them, push 20 servers into it with 300 clients... and see if anything breaks, or any CRC errors or whatnot.
[03:41] <eikon81g> I gotta step away I will bbl yall thanks!
[03:41] <TerryC> QA is more for production, I work in Validation Engineering
[03:42] <lasko> Same principles being applied ultimately. Find broken stuff before someone else does ;)
[03:44] <siente> Hello guys, when I type sudo apt-get update it's saying E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:44] <siente> how to fix it? I am using the latest release 14.10
[03:44] <bodhi_zazen> siente, use another mirror or post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:45] <TerryC> Some of the stuff I do is kindof silly, like recently installed windows 10 tech preview on a server with 128gb ram, but it was 32bit win10.... just to see if our 40gig cards would work at all on it. Suprisingly it did. but nobody really cared, we just wanted to make sure the system would turn on with 32bit os's, even though they will never be supported for 40gig cards.
[03:45] <siente> bodhi_zazen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10510332/
[03:45] <TerryC> still pretty sad to see 128gb, 2.5gb usable
[03:46] <locsmif> TerryC: wildest thing I've been working on was programming Windows certificate stores
[03:47] <bodhi_zazen> siente, unless you are installing from source, you do not need any of the deb-src repos
[03:47] <locsmif> Complex, to the point where I had to trace certutil.exe line by line to see what was happening and imitate
[03:47] <bodhi_zazen> and which repo is giving the error ?
[03:47] <locsmif> Anyways ;)
[03:48] <siente> bodhi_zazen, I am newbie what should I do?
[03:48] <TerryC> we jsut shipped like 30 servers (dell r730's) to Microsoft with dual port 40gigabit cards in them (will later be designed built-on the motherboards) for certs.
[03:49] <TerryC> fun stuff, just weird building up servers to ship, then waiting to get them back for mroe testing
[03:49] <pluc_pilou> I need to compare the output of `fontforge --version` with the one on my machine. Could one of you kind persons post the output of that command to paste.ubuntu.com?
[03:49] <hardtail> wow terryc that sounds very interesting
[03:50] <hardtail> it installed rather quick locsmif but then when reboot time came the screen was blank and you could hear the ubuntu chime for the login lol
[03:51] <siente> bodhi_zazen, how to remove that error ?
[03:51] <siente> bodhi_zazen, if it's even an error E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:54] <pluc_pilou> Again, could anyone paste the output of `fontforge --version` to paste.ubuntu.com? Pretty please?
[03:54] <cknox> I am seeing an issue where Firefox will randomly type what it wants (although it seems somewhat related to what I have copied but I can't be sure). This seems to go away when I close Firefox and reopen it, and it not present at all in other programs
[03:55] <Malgorath> I installed windows 8.1 first then I installed 14.04.2 on a second hard drive, but when it boots I don't see any menu options and boot-repair does not see the windows partition but I can mount it and access files on it
[03:56] <cknox> also it doesn't matter which keys I type as even the arrow keys insert seemingly random characters
[03:57] <locsmif> hardtail: ?
[03:57] <locsmif> TerryC: what was the coolest way you broke stuff? :P
[03:58] <locsmif> cknox: you may want to create a new FF profile with firefox -P (close firefox first)
[03:58] <locsmif> Then test that profile for a while to isolate possible causes
[03:58] <cknox> I like Windows 10, but if it's not a free perpetual license locsmif I will certainly try that, but I did install Ubuntu less than a week ago ;)
[03:58] <cknox> bah
[03:59] <cknox> I forgot irssi doesn't have a different input line for each window
[03:59] <locsmif> haha
[03:59] <locsmif> I don't even know what that's about cknox
[04:00] <pluc_pilou> I thought all things windows were off-topic here...
[04:00] <pluc_pilou> ;-)
[04:00] <hardtail> locsmif um yes sir lol it just rebooted into that violet ubuntu screen
[04:00] <cknox> any reason I can't remove the Ubuntu Firefox extensions?
[04:00] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully. Here is my rdesktop.log: http://pastebin.com/UDRRusp2, and here my rsession-kgalahassa.log : http://pastebin.com/1JiuSHEw
[04:01] <locsmif> cknox: they were isntalled machine-wide?
[04:01] <locsmif> using .debs ?
[04:01] <locsmif> hardtail: is nomodeset still active as a bootoption?
[04:02] <hardtail> i did not get a chance to verify, when it rebooted it did not load the rEFInd boot manager either, just went straight to ubuntu so i was not able to check the flags
[04:02] <TerryC> locsmif: We were testing Sea of Sensors, (a HP technology) and we had to test a thermal sensor...
[04:03] <locsmif> TerryC: I like where this is going
[04:03] <TerryC> first we tried a hair-dryer, full temp (after blowing a few, we remembered we run 220 in the lab, so had to find one that could plug into 220 :) ) so we point it at the chip with the sensors... get's up to like 200degrees, and still functions....
[04:03] <locsmif> hardtail: that ought to be configurable in the Grub config
[04:03] <TerryC> so then we're like, ok, realisticly... this chip should never get this hot... so we figure, what if it does...
[04:04] <somsip> TerryC: you win March 2015 award for offtopicness by mentioning hair dryers in the ubuntu support channel. Well done, now maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would be better :)
[04:04] <locsmif> Mythbusters!
[04:04] <TerryC> so we get a hot-air gun, heats up to about 400 degrees or so... still works....
[04:04] <locsmif> Okay I can't miss out on this, joining #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:05] <locsmif> hardtail: but Ubuntu works?
[04:05] <rje> would anyone know if its possible to get the updated opensource radeon driver into 14.04?
[04:05] <TerryC> so then we're thinking, what is our upper limit here? so we get an industrial heat gun..... The freaking chip was literally melting off the board, still sending data, we had it on a highspeed camera and the chip was literally sliding while still sending data.
[04:05] <TerryC> then finally, it stopped. Our limit seemed to be right around 525-550F
[04:06] <locsmif> TerryC: awesome. I'm going to be quiet now about this so as not to provoke the ops
[04:06] <hardtail> locsmif i was not able to login the screen was blank and purple but i could just hear the chime so sounds like it works lol
[04:06] <locsmif> TerryC: but that's the craziest thing I've ever heard /OT
[04:06] <hardtail> it's alright i will continue again tomorrow on this thank you for everything locsmif
[04:07] <locsmif> hardtail: I guess trying nomodeset again may help
[04:07] <locsmif> hardtail: you're welcome
[04:21] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully. Here is my rdesktop.log: http://pastebin.com/UDRRusp2, and here my rsession-kgalahassa.log : http://pastebin.com/1JiuSHEw
[04:25] <detorr> how do i install teamviewer on ubuntu 14.10 64-bit??
[04:25] <detorr> getting a lot of errors
[04:26] <esr> Help, apt-get upgrade was interrupted by power failure, am seeking recovery advice.
[04:28] <lasko> esr: You'll need a live cd that you can use to perform the recovery
[04:28] <esr> System is running.  CD still needed?
[04:29] <lasko> So you have a usable system at the moment then?
[04:30] <esr> Yes.  And it looks like apt-get check was a good first step, I have a clean source list again.
[04:30] <esr> Restring the upgrade...
[04:31] <esr> That looks normal. Looks like apt-get check was the right response.
[04:31] <lakmal> what is the best remote software from windows to ubuntu .. tried VNC having several issue
[04:31] <lasko> and what particular issues are you seeing then?
[04:31] <cknox> lakmal: what type of remote connection are you looking for?
[04:31] <lasko> lakmal: Do you need a visual connection or command line?
[04:32] <cknox> actually, try mobiterm
[04:32] <lakmal> yes
[04:32] <lakmal> i need a visual connection
[04:32] <lakmal> i have sone
[04:32] <cknox> it has a built in X server
[04:32] <lakmal> ssh
[04:32] <lakmal> that works
[04:32] <cknox> so you ssh to your system and then just run the apps you want
[04:32] <lasko> lakmal: Well for command line I would just utilize SSH, and for visual I would use VNC because thats going to be the best option
[04:32] <cknox> sorry, mobaxterm* http://mobaxterm.mobatek.net/
[04:33] <cknox> lakmal: unless you want to be able to view your screen and continue, then as lasko said vnc will be your best bet
[04:33] <esr> lasko: apt-get update was throwing messages about file mismatches.  I was reading the apt-get man page while I was waiting for a response here and found the check command. That seems to have cleared up my issues.
[04:34] <lasko> esr: Well I'm glad the issue is resolved heh.
[04:34] <lakmal> chnox: thanks, is there any thing better than VNC
[04:34] <lakmal> ?
[04:35] <le_pig> esr: thanks for bringing that up. i've often wondered what to do, myself.
[04:35] <cknox> well VNC will let you control the system as it's seen as the console. Mobaxterm will let you SSH to the system and run GUI apps...
[04:35] <lakmal> cknox: thanks , i will try that option.. are you aware with any VNC issue with Ubuntu 14.04
[04:35] <lasko> lakmal: VNC just utilizes the RDP protocol to allow you to access a devices visual terminal. All other types of applications will do that same thing and use the same protocol. VNC just has the best configuration options.
[04:36] <lasko> lakmal: But there are other options if you find VNC overwhelming
[04:36] <esr> le_pig: I love it whe n I come looking for help and end up giving it.  Feels like good karma. :-)
[04:36] <lakmal> lasko: thanks, are you aware with any VNC issues with Ubuntu 14.04
[04:36] <cknox> lakmal: to be honest I've only ever used VNC or RDP, but it's always been in a windows based environment
[04:36] <lasko> lakmal: None that I'm aware of no.
[04:37] <lasko> What particular issues are you having with VNC?
[04:37] <lakmal> lasko: please provide the other options that best suite for windows
[04:37] <lakmal> cknox: thanks
[04:38] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully. Here is my rdesktop.log: http://pastebin.com/UDRRusp2, and here my rsession-kgalahassa.log : http://pastebin.com/1JiuSHEw
[04:38] <lasko> lakmal: I honestly don't know any others that I could recommend.
[04:38] <lakmal> lasko: i only get the command prompt loaded .. as i ve read in google it seems to be a Xwindows issue , with how it was configured at the linux box.. but havent found a good solution.. i can login but gets only the terminal and gray brackground
[04:38] <lakmal> lasko: thanks
[04:40] <vr-desktop> quit
[04:40] <vr-desktop> hello
[04:41] <vr-desktop> sorry am irc noob
[04:41] <vr-desktop> exit ubuntu
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> vr-desktop: '/quit'
[04:41] <cfhowlett> vr-desktop, /quit
[04:41] <vr-desktop> thanks
[04:41] <vr-desktop> would anyone mind pointing me towards how to change my username
[04:41] <vr-desktop> ?
[04:42] <cknox> ./nick
[04:42] <lasko> vr-desktop: /nick username
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !nick | vr-desktop
[04:42] <vr-desktop> thank you!
[04:42] <vr-desktop> ./nick vicR
[04:42] <lasko> without the .
[04:42] <vicR> got it!
[04:42] <vicR> thanks all
[04:42] <cknox> heh
[04:42] <lasko> Well.. that
[04:42] <lasko> was interesting hehe
[04:42] <cknox> probably wanted /part...
[04:45] <lakmal> ./mick
[04:56] <kgalahassa> hi, i have installed rstudio on my ubuntu 14.04, but it don't start since, I'm trying by anyway but nothing, the software had been installed successfully. Here is my rdesktop.log: http://pastebin.com/UDRRusp2, and here my rsession-kgalahassa.log : http://pastebin.com/1JiuSHEw
[04:58] <SchrodingersScat> !info rstudio
[04:58] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, best you contact rstudio directly to support their product
[04:59] <cfhowlett> https://support.rstudio.com/hc/en-us
[04:59] <Jarvix> ubuntu 14.10, installed pulseaudio, afterwards my system froze so I sudo autoremove pulseaudio, now my sound is wrecked. no sound output device found
[05:00] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett: have you seen my log files?
[05:01] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, nope.  pastebin blocked in China and I've never seen rstudio until your mention
[05:01] <Jarvix> !info pulseaudio
[05:01] <scott1> HI
[05:15] <shiv_> Hi
[05:15] <shiv_> friends
[05:16] <shiv_> actually i am using ubuntu 12.04 and when i am connected mouse to my laptop its detecting and immediately after that it automatically removes and i am not able to use USB mouse
[05:16] <shiv_> can anyone help me on this regard
[05:17] <MichaelHabib1> hi, I have few downloaded ISOs os ubuntu-based OSs , how can i check if they are based on the LTS version of ubuntu using the ISO content ?
[05:20] <meatmanek> MichaelHabib1: there's a command for identifying the version of an iso; let me see if I can remember it
[05:21] <MichaelHabib1> meatmanek: ty
[05:24] <meatmanek> MichaelHabib1: http://dev.man-online.org/man1/ubuntu-iso/
[05:24] <Nikesh> 10 years of using a Debian system and I just found out that APT is an abbreviation
[05:24] <MichaelHabib1> Nikesh: is it !
[05:25] <j4rh3rD> Nikesh, what does it stand for?
[05:26] <meatmanek> !info apt
[05:26] <Nikesh> MichaelHabib1: Well, this blog i am reading says "Advanced Packaging Tool"
[05:26] <Nikesh> But maybe that is a retro-active acronym
[05:26] <Flannel> !apt
[05:27] <EriC^^> MichaelHabib1, you could browse the dists/*/Release
[05:29] <Nikesh> Is there a way to visually indicate the level of screen brightness? When I press the volume up/down on my keyboard, an indicator pops up showing the volume level; but for the screen brightness buttons, nothing shows up
[05:31] <EriC^^> Nikesh, an indicator is supposed to show up
[05:31] <EriC^^> Nikesh, which de are you using?
[05:33] <j4rh3rD> Is there a way to get Skype to use system notifications on Unity?
[05:33] <j4rh3rD> I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[05:34] <Nikesh> EriC^^: Unity
[05:35] <shiv_> anyone help me out with this problem
[05:35] <shiv_> actually i am using ubuntu 12.04 and when i am connected mouse to my laptop its detecting and immediately after that it automatically removes and i am not able to use USB mouse
[05:36] <EriC^^> shiv_, check dmesg
[05:36] <shiv_> @EriC its not giving clear msg
[05:41] <centric> hello alll /me
[05:42] <centric> i'm new to irc
[05:45] <Nikesh> aloha centric
[05:45] <centric> hello nikesh!!
[05:46] <Nikesh> EriC^^: is there a way to enable/disable it that i could check?
[05:46] <tnkhanh> hi anyone use apt-search
[05:46] <tnkhanh> just found out and it's great
[05:47] <andy__> how to play xpilot?
[05:47] <centric> anyone here know how to disable sidebar launcher in unity?
[05:48] <EriC^^> Nikesh, no idea
[05:49] <EriC^^> centric, you can't disable it, you can hide it though
[05:51] <centric> i have already hidden it ..but instead installing new DE i was wondering if dere any chance to disable it
[06:06] <zabyl> #bitcoin
[06:11] <pegasus500> hey guys
[06:11] <pegasus500> wan to setup vpn
[06:29] <Wug> gedit hard locks when you open files if it's running over x forwarding sometimes
[06:30] <Wug> it might be a problem specific to xming, I'm not neckbeardly enough to say, but gedit will stop redrawing its window and consume 100% of one cpu
[06:35] <moss> how can i add a user with a specific uid and gid? when i try to do useradd -u 151 -g 151 user - it gives me an error 'group does not exist'
[06:37] <sumit> hi
[06:37] <thorie> hi
[06:37] <thorie> anyone know where i can get support for ubuntu?
[06:38] <sumit> thorie what do u mean by support ?
[06:39] <thorie> i've been stuck on a problem for months now, and i need to get some professional help with my installation
[06:39] <thorie> free support isn't cutting it and i'm losing money every day this system doesn't work
[06:39] <thorie> is there a place i can get some paid support?
[06:40] <sumit> u can try putting it on freelance website
[06:41] <thorie> i thought ubuntu had some kind of commercial support?
[06:41] <thorie> from canonical?
[06:41] <sumit> yup
[06:41] <Seveas> http://www.canonical.com/services
[06:42] <thorie> i don't understand, the website shows some weird stuff about "systems management" ? i only have my one personal laptop
[06:43] <thorie> do i pay for support by the hour?
[06:43] <thorie> i don't have a desktop, server, or cloud
[06:44] <somsip> thorie: how about you say what your problem is?
[06:45] <thorie> i'm tired of trying to solve the problem myself :(
[06:45] <somsip> thorie: ok - I'm not going to persuade you to get help from here
[06:58] <LJ> anyone really here?
[06:59] <Squall5668> no, we are ~1600 bots
[07:00] <Seveas> Squall5668: looks like he believed you :)
[07:01] <thorie> yeah that answer would make me leave too
[07:02] <Squall5668> Perhaps I came across as offensive. It was a joke though.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> users have to ask real questions
[07:06] <Seveas> they can ask imaginary questions too, but the answers will be equally fictional
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> someone knows howto gksu a firefox session on the guest user from another user?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> i want to do the same as 'sux' does, but they removed package for security issues
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !info sux precise
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> with sux i could do: sux firefox other-user (from current user)
[07:13] <Squall5668> lotuspsychje: can't you su otheruser first?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Squall5668: what do you mean?
[07:14] <gr33n7007h> lotuspsychje: doesn't su <user> /usr/bin/firefox work?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> gr33n7007h: lemme try
[07:14] <Squall5668> lotuspsychje: pretty much that. You can use su in guest iirc
[07:14] <Squall5668> But i don't have one to check right now
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> gr33n7007h: lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ su guest /urs/bin/firefox
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> No passwd entry for user 'guest'
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> guest hasnt a password at login
[07:15] <somsip> lotuspsychje: sudo -i, then su
[07:16] <somsip> lotuspsychje: of course, that could go horribly wrong if root's env variables end up in there...
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> somsip: i know there's a gksu trick somehow, but i forget how
[07:18] <Squall5668> Just reading the manpage here, but what error would 'gksu -u guest firefox' give you?
[07:18] <Sacred-Shadows> mwhahahaha
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> Squall5668: get a window: user guest does not exist
[07:20] <Squall5668> lotuspsychje: perhaps make another user and use that one to launch the firefox session?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Squall5668: another existing user gives me this:
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ gksu -u nadia firefox
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> No protocol specified
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> No protocol specified
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Error: cannot open display: :0
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> size == 0' failed
[07:20] <Squall5668> ouch
[07:21] <htqp> if you are fine with other users creating windows on that user's X session, run:   xhost +localhost
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> htqp: yeah i think that was the trick, xhost
[07:22] <htqp> note that his can be a security issue because now others can trick the target user to believe that a window was his/her own
[07:22] <htqp> e.g. nadia can now create a browser window asking for a password
[07:22] <htqp> or displaying fake data
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> htqp: right, i guess thats why they removes sux from packages
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> htqp: because its a security flaw messing with other X
[07:24] <hillary> my ubuntu 14.04.2LTS cannot sense wireless what could be the issue
[07:24] <Squall5668> might I suggest a chroot jail instead? You could launch firefox there if you want
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> hillary: can you pastebin sudo lshw -C network plz
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Squall5668: how does that work?
[07:25] <htqp> lotuspsychje: hm, it seems it was removed because nobody was interested in maintainig the sw https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=726544
[07:25] <hillary> lotuspyschje: ok a moment
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> htqp: so i can still grab the precise .deb of sux and use it on 14.04 safely?
[07:26] <htqp> lotuspsychje: anyway. Another solution is to create an internal window with ''Xephyr :21'' and then running ''DISPLAY=:21 firefox'' from nadia
[07:26] <Squall5668> lotuspsychje: you set up a secondary '/' to launch applications from
[07:26] <htqp> lotuspsychje: (where 21 is an arbitrary number, replace with what you want)
[07:26] <Squall5668> lotuspsychje: I'll try to find you the wiki entry, will explain it better than me :)
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> htqp: lol thats too much workaround for what i want, just want to open a session on another user of a package
[07:27] <somsip> lotuspsychje: can't you just assign a passwd to the user, then log in properly as them? SSH in as your normal user if you need to do something only you have permissions for. Reset the passwd when you are done
[07:27] <htqp> lotuspsychje: it depends on implementation factors (soname?) so it may or may not be possible, try it and see
[07:27] <gr33n7007h> somsip: yeah if he give guest a password it will work
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> sux is so easy, it will let you launch firefox on any user instantly
[07:27] <somsip> gr33n7007h: I can understand if there is a reason to avoid doing that, but it is something that can be removed later
[07:27] <hillary> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10512115/
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> hillary: without the plz :p
[07:28] <gr33n7007h> of course
[07:28] <Squall5668> gr33n7007h: but that would defeat the purpose of a 'guest'. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot Here it is, but that's also not 'too much workaround for what i want' :)
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> ill think ill stick to sux guys tnx for brainstorming
[07:30] <hillary> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10512162/
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !bc43 | hillary
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | hillary
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> hillary: check also your 'additional drivers' section before maybe there's an STA driver in there
[07:33] <hillary> lotuspsychje: checked it is there trying to enable but getting disabled
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> hillary: what happens when you try to install the driver?
[07:34] <htqp> hillary: install package firmware-b43-installer
[07:34] <htqp> hillary: then reboot and test the wifi
[07:35] <hillary> let me ask. Can i check the canonical partners cos it uncheck?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hillary: try the trick from htqp
[07:36] <hillary> in the software updates
[07:39] <Avihay_work> Anyone happens to know how I can add a virtual screen so that I can VNC it to another computer?
[07:41] <Avihay_work> I know I can VNC with the clip option, I know how to set a costum resolution on an output and use that, all I'm misssing is adding an output to manipulate
[07:43] <hillary> how can i stop this "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> hillary: try a reboot
[07:43] <hillary> ok
[07:43] <Gavlois> Hello all
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> Gavlois: welcome
[07:43] <nomic> anyone here
[07:44] <nomic> can i be seen here
[07:44] <ikonia> yes
[07:44] <nomic> thanks
[07:44] <nomic> can't mount nfs anymore with xubuintu 14.04
[07:44] <nomic> is there a known problem
[07:50] <Gavlois> anyone familiar with slow wifi issues in 14.10?
[07:55] <queerty> what kind of math is involved in programming puzzles?
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> queerty: maybe the ##programming guys can answer that
[08:02] <queerty> lotuspsychje: i've been banned from there for supporting gay rights
[08:03] <ChristW> Anyone familiar with the accessibility stuff in Ubuntu? I have added Desktop Zoom for one user of our computer at home. When I move the mouse into the area where the menu entries are, and I click, the mouse moves to the left (of its own) so I can't select any menu entries.
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> queerty: well this is an ubuntu channel for support questions
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> ChristW: maybe this can help you forward? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[08:08] <ChristW> lotuspsychje: Unfortunately, that page doesn't show anything related to Desktop Magnification at all.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> ChristW: ccsm and unity-tweak-tool have some settings for desktop zoom, maybe there?
[08:10] <Guest39265> do i have to worry avout someone getting my info if i encrypt my home folder? Thank you, I am new.
[08:10] <somsip> Guest39265: if you forget your password, you will lose all of your data
[08:11] <Ben64> Guest39265: probably not, but you might lose your own info
[08:11] <Guest39265> Can you direct me to a Hardware CHannel please?
[08:12]  * someone has no interest in your home folder, encrypted or not.
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest39265: ##hardware
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> hillary: more luck with your wifi now?
[08:14] <hillary> lotuspsychje no
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> hillary: did you install that b43 firmware ?
[08:15] <hillary> lotuspsychje yes i did
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> hillary: you can see wifi icon?
[08:15] <hillary> lotuspsychje: and reboot
[08:16] <hillary> lotuspsychje yes but red instead of blue
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> hillary: hmm, wich ubuntu version did you have?
[08:16] <White_Cat> hello EriC^^, around?
[08:16] <hillary> lotuspsychje. 14.04.2 LTS
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> hillary: and you have a wifi hardware button on your machine somewhere that could be disabled?
[08:18] <hillary> lotuspsychje: yes by pressing it either way
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> hillary: wich brand of laptop is this?
[08:20] <hillary> lotuspsychje: compaq presario CQ20
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> hillary: maybe you should check bios if you find something about wifi 'last state' option, some wifi's can be a pain with hardware button
[08:21] <hillary> lotuspsychje: let me check bios in a moment. Iwill report back
[08:25] <ChristW> lotuspsychje: I will check tonight and perhaps post a screen capture somewhere to shwo theproblem. That makes it easier, I guess...
[08:25] <White_Cat> so I did a clean install of ubuntu server but it wont boot
[08:25] <White_Cat> I am on live cd now
[08:26] <White_Cat> I suspect problem may have to do with kernel
[08:26] <Squall5668> White_Cat: what is the error message when you try to boot?
[08:27] <rpp601> in the command 'apt-get install -y linux-headers-$(uname -r)' is uname my username? or should i leave that the way it is
[08:29] <White_Cat> Squall5668 I end up in grub prompt
[08:30] <White_Cat> it doesnt doo anything beyond that
[08:31] <student> hey
[08:32] <White_Cat> linux-image-3.16.0-31-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-31-generic
[08:32] <White_Cat> I only have these two listed in dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[08:32] <White_Cat> should I not also have a versionless linux-image-generic ?
[08:34] <Squall5668> White_Cat: Well, you can go ahead and chroot in your install from the livecd
[08:35] <Squall5668> You can install any packages there and attempt to fix grub too
[08:37] <White_Cat> yeah that is what I am working on
[08:37] <White_Cat> I am not 100% sure how kernel supposed to appear /
[08:37] <White_Cat> I am only 1% confident with my abilities in regards to the kernel :)
[08:38] <Squall5668> Well, you can do that with 'mount /dev/partitionhere /mnt && mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys'
[08:38] <Squall5668> then just chroot /mnt
[08:39] <EriC^^> White_Cat: what's up?
[08:39] <White_Cat> ah yes
[08:39] <White_Cat> hello EriC^^ :))
[08:39] <White_Cat> guess what broke :p
[08:39] <EriC^^> hello :)
[08:39] <White_Cat> to be fair I did do a clean reinstall
[08:39] <EriC^^> grub?
[08:39] <White_Cat> yup
[08:39] <White_Cat> grub and ubuntu server itself
[08:39] <White_Cat> wasnt exactly planned
[08:40] <White_Cat> I just did a apt-get install linux-image-generic
[08:40] <jpds> White_Cat: Server stuff's usually better in #ubuntu-server.
[08:40] <White_Cat> I know but this is more of a grub issue
[08:40] <White_Cat> nothing really server specific
[08:40] <White_Cat> and esides I have EriC^^ here :D
[08:41] <EriC^^> hehe :D
[08:41] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10512782/
[08:42] <White_Cat> thats what my kernel config looks like now
[08:42] <White_Cat> it used to only have linux-image-3.16.0-31-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-31-generic
[08:42] <lord4163> What is the thing called that asks for my password when I log in to a ssh server using a public key?
[08:42] <White_Cat> pass phrase?
[08:42] <Squall5668> passphrase?
[08:43] <White_Cat> I said it first :p
[08:43] <Squall5668> hehe
[08:43] <White_Cat> I demand a web cookie
[08:43] <White_Cat> :p
[08:43] <EriC^^> what happens when you boot?
[08:43] <White_Cat> I end up in grub prompt
[08:43] <White_Cat> I havent rebooted since I did all this kernel work
[08:43] <lord4163> Squall5668: ??
[08:43] <lord4163> Squall5668: command not found
[08:43] <White_Cat> should I update-grub for good measure?
[08:44] <EriC^^> are you chrooted right now?
[08:44] <Squall5668> White_Cat: do a grub-install and a --recheck
[08:44] <Squall5668> lord4163: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:45] <lord4163> Squall5668: I want to log in to my servers through ssh with pubkey :)
[08:45] <lord4163> Squall5668: in i3wm
[08:46] <Squall5668> lord4163: sorry, don't know what i3wm is. But I can help with ssh keys. Have you created a pub & priv key already?
[08:46] <somsip> lord4163: possibly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Keyring
[08:46] <lord4163> Squall5668: a window manager
[08:46] <White_Cat> EriC^^ yup
[08:46] <White_Cat> that I am
[08:46] <White_Cat> I did take notes when you were helping me the past time
[08:47] <White_Cat> I even noted your for i line :)
[08:47] <EriC^^> ok cool
[08:47] <White_Cat> is there a command to list items in grub from ubuntu live cd?
[08:48] <White_Cat> I have 46 generic and 31 generic for kernels
[08:48] <White_Cat> 31 came from the setup I think and didnt boot with it
[08:49] <EriC^^> grep -A20 menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:51] <White_Cat> EriC^^ pastebinned it to you
[08:51] <White_Cat> also EriC^^ is EriC^ you too? :o
[08:52] <Bing0> EriC^: is the google boss
[08:52] <EriC^^> yeah ill brb in 1sec
[08:52] <White_Cat> google doesnt have a boss. You cannot google for that. :p
[08:53] <EriC^^> its a pc thats on keeps logging in
[08:54] <White_Cat> ah
[08:54] <White_Cat> I also did a nano /etc/default/grub
[08:54] <White_Cat> I did save but I am unsure if that impacts my real grub
[08:54] <White_Cat> do I need to copy it?
[08:58] <EriC^^> White_Cat, i'm back
[08:58] <EriC^^> White_Cat, so you reinstalled ubuntu?
[08:58] <White_Cat> yes
[08:58] <White_Cat> and just did  reboot
[08:58] <White_Cat> still at grub prompt
[08:59] <White_Cat> it doesnt even list kernels
[08:59] <EriC^^> ok, you reinstalled in uefi mode right?
[08:59] <lord4163> Funny, nginx just started showing the welcome page and purged my website!?
[08:59] <White_Cat> EriC^ yes
[08:59] <White_Cat> it created a partition for just that
[08:59] <White_Cat> its the first one even
[08:59] <EriC^^> ok, and the bios is set to uefi mode right?
[08:59] <White_Cat> yes
[08:59] <White_Cat> bios didnt change
[09:00] <EriC^^> ok type sudo parted -l
[09:00] <White_Cat> shoud I reboot on live cd?
[09:00] <EriC^^> are you still chrooted?
[09:00] <White_Cat> I rebooted so I am at grub prompt
[09:00] <White_Cat> I can boot back to live cd
[09:01] <EriC^^> ok, boot the live cd
[09:01] <White_Cat> this may take a short while
[09:02] <EriC^^> ok
[09:03] <White_Cat> okay ts booting on live cd
[09:04] <White_Cat> 2.5 minute boot time is ridiclous IMHO but the bios on this thing is like an os
[09:04] <White_Cat> it even boots to a variant of linux when you want to reconfigure raid
[09:05] <White_Cat> here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10512948/
[09:05] <White_Cat> EriC^^ so its less complicated now
[09:06] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:07] <White_Cat> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:07] <White_Cat> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[09:07] <White_Cat> for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:07] <White_Cat> that?
[09:07] <EriC^^> yes, great
[09:07] <EriC^^> also type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[09:07] <EriC^^> just to make sure it's booted in efi
[09:08] <EriC^^> if the dir is there then it's ok
[09:08] <White_Cat> yeah
[09:09] <White_Cat> its there
[09:09] <EriC^^> ok cool
[09:09] <EriC^^> sudo chroot /mnt
[09:09] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you using?
[09:09] <White_Cat> ubuntu-server
[09:09] <White_Cat> 14.04.2 I believe
[09:10] <EriC^^> ok
[09:10] <White_Cat> apt-get install efibootmgr pastebinit ?
[09:10] <EriC^^> not needed i think, if you're sure you're booting in uefi mode and you get grub then it should be ok
[09:11] <EriC^^> i think you should be using the .31 kernel though
[09:11] <White_Cat> ah indeed
[09:11] <White_Cat> I can get as far a sgrub
[09:11] <White_Cat> so its kernel again? :/
[09:11] <EriC^^> why do you have a 3.16 kernel?
[09:11] <White_Cat> I honestly dont know
[09:12] <EriC^^> try to purge it
[09:12] <White_Cat> purge what? kernel in general?
[09:12] <White_Cat> like all kernels?
[09:12] <EriC^^> no just the 3.16 one
[09:12] <Squall5668> EriC^^: .2 releases come with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[09:13] <EriC^^> White_Cat, type apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[09:13] <EriC^^> Squall5668, oh i see
[09:14] <EriC^^> White_Cat, last time i think you booted an older kernel and it worked?
[09:14] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513040/
[09:14] <White_Cat> EriC^^ yes but that was the broken ubuntu server that worked
[09:14] <EriC^^> you had the grub menu appear and chose and older one for it to work right?
[09:14] <White_Cat> this is a clean install
[09:15] <White_Cat> ah yes
[09:15] <White_Cat> this time I dont get the menu
[09:15] <EriC^^> yeah it doesn't appear if you're not dual booting
[09:16] <EriC^^> White_Cat, you could use the older kernel, and see if any newer kernels boot i guess
[09:16] <White_Cat> I can but I dont think it will boot
[09:16] <White_Cat> it didnt boot before
[09:16] <White_Cat> when I just had two items
[09:17] <White_Cat> I only had linux-image-3.16.0-31-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-31-generic
[09:17] <EriC^^> yeah i mean you could use the older one for now
[09:18] <White_Cat> I dont remember what worked :(
[09:18] <EriC^^> and when a newer kernel comes out you could see if it works or not and then have it boot by default if it does
[09:18] <White_Cat> first off I need that menu back I think
[09:18] <EriC^^> ok type nano /etc/default/grub
[09:18] <Squall5668> White_Cat: just hold shift while booting
[09:18] <EriC^^> and add a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[09:19] <EriC^^> Squall5668, wasn't working last time he tried, * shrug*
[09:19] <White_Cat> I have that
[09:19] <White_Cat> and also for hidden_timeout quiet
[09:19] <Squall5668> EriC^^: hm...
[09:19] <EriC^^> White_Cat, did you add it yourself?
[09:19] <White_Cat> yes
[09:19] <EriC^^> did you update-grub afterwards?
[09:19] <White_Cat> yes
[09:19] <avicii> ping
[09:20] <avicii> indonesia
[09:20] <White_Cat> should I give it a second go?
[09:21] <EriC^^> White_Cat, did you add the # before HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET?
[09:21] <White_Cat> with update-grub
[09:21] <White_Cat> yes
[09:21] <EriC^^> ok, remove it and leave a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[09:21] <White_Cat> okay, its set to true
[09:21] <avicii> respone
[09:22] <White_Cat> should i leace it as is?
[09:22] <EriC^^> yes
[09:22] <EriC^^> update-grub
[09:22] <White_Cat> okay
[09:22] <White_Cat> done
[09:22] <EriC^^> ok type exit
[09:22] <EriC^^> then reboot
[09:23] <White_Cat> rebooting
[09:23] <White_Cat> one reboot a day keeps the doctor away, as he is to busy fixing grub :p
[09:24] <EriC^^> :p
[09:25] <Bing0> EriC^^: send me some dough
[09:25] <White_Cat> or she for that matter
[09:25] <White_Cat> we really need a gender unspecific pronoun
[09:27] <hillary> I get this when i run update in my ubuntu 14.04.2LTS http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513147/
[09:27] <White_Cat> it instantly drops to grub prompt
[09:27] <White_Cat> no menu or countdown
[09:27] <EriC^^> White_Cat, i think there's an option in grub for the default option that boots the last booted one
[09:28] <EriC^^> like default=lastsomething
[09:28] <White_Cat> is there a way I can manually tell grub to boot my os?
[09:28] <EriC^^> if you set that, then if newer kernels are installed with dist-upgrade it wouldn't boot them when you restart remotely and you'd be ok
[09:29] <hillary> And still my wifi not working
[09:29] <EriC^^> and when you're on the p you can test them out and if they work you just boot into them and it boots them to next time, otherwise you'd just boot into the older one and it would keep booting it
[09:29] <White_Cat> I currently cannot boot at all, it doesnt give me the list
[09:29] <White_Cat> like it did the last time. I have no menu to select from
[09:30] <EriC^^> *pc
[09:31] <White_Cat> yeah I will like that setting but first I need to see the menu :/
[09:31] <White_Cat> or at least have the ability to boot without the live cd
[09:32] <haytham> hi guys, the cpufreq utility changes frequency back to performance shortly after i select a freq
[09:33] <hillary> Help correct this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513147/
[09:34] <EriC^^> White_Cat, are you still in grub?
[09:34] <White_Cat> yes
[09:34] <EriC^^> type ls
[09:34] <Bing0> hillary: thas because your ip is blacklisted
[09:34] <White_Cat> hd0 and hd1 exists
[09:35] <EriC^^> White_Cat, what partition in hd0?
[09:35] <hillary> Bing0 why?
[09:35] <White_Cat> msdos1 only
[09:35] <White_Cat> hd1 has 3 gpts
[09:36] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, type ls (hd1,gpt2)
[09:36] <EriC^^> see which one is your "/"
[09:36] <White_Cat> it just listed the file system
[09:37] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, type set root=(hd1,gpt2)
[09:37] <White_Cat> it listed more stff with .
[09:37] <White_Cat> it listed more stff with /
[09:37] <White_Cat> ls (hd1,gpt2)/
[09:37] <Bing0> do you think 400kbs is fast?
[09:37] <White_Cat> done
[09:38] <Bing0> 400KiB/s
[09:38] <feyruz> hi ubuntu suddenly forgot my installed applications
[09:38] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, type configfile (hd1,gpt2)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:38] <Bing0> is it fast?
[09:38] <feyruz> the search box top left in unity doesnt find them anymore
[09:38] <feyruz> how can this be fixed?
[09:39] <White_Cat> EriC^^ it immidiately fell back to grub prompt
[09:39] <White_Cat> like a "clear" command
[09:40] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, type set root=(hd0,gpt2)
[09:40] <White_Cat> no errors though
[09:40] <White_Cat> EriC^^ done
[09:40] <White_Cat> though I tink hd0 is the backup drive
[09:40] <EriC^^> White_Cat, type ls /boot
[09:40] <EriC^^> and get the name of the kernel .31
[09:41] <White_Cat> hd0,gpt2 not found
[09:41] <EriC^^> White_Cat, sorry, i mean hd1,gpt2
[09:41] <White_Cat> it returns a blank line
[09:41] <gulzar> GIMP help. when creating new working area (file >New), and it is smaller than the screen size. the outside is white. How to remove that non-working area?
[09:41] <White_Cat> no information
[09:41] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, type ls /boot
[09:41] <White_Cat> yep boot is empty
[09:42] <EriC^^> White_Cat, hmm?
[09:42] <White_Cat> ls /boot reveals nothing
[09:42] <EriC^^> type ls /
[09:42] <White_Cat> lists a number of directories I am familiar with
[09:42] <EriC^^> ok, type cat /etc/fstab
[09:42] <White_Cat> lib/ run/ poc/
[09:43] <EriC^^> do you have a separate boot partition?
[09:44] <bazhang> #gimp gulzar
[09:44] <White_Cat> how can I determine that?
[09:44] <EriC^^> White_Cat, is there an entry that says UUID=sigksjdghfs /boot
[09:44] <EriC^^> or /dev/sdxY /boot ?
[09:44] <White_Cat> I have /boot/efi
[09:44] <White_Cat> and both are UUIDs
[09:45] <EriC^^> ok, no /boot though right?
[09:45] <White_Cat> no
[09:45] <EriC^^> ok
[09:45] <EriC^^> i guess you have to boot a live cd
[09:45] <EriC^^> and see what's going on
[09:45] <EriC^^> your /boot seems empty
[09:46] <White_Cat> yeah
[09:46] <White_Cat> this isnt my idea of saving disk space :)
[09:47] <EriC^^> :D
[09:47] <White_Cat> why would ubuntu install without a boot?
[09:48] <White_Cat> does it want a boot to the head?
[09:48] <EriC^^> :p
[09:49] <White_Cat> in live cd
[09:49] <EriC^^> ok
[09:49] <White_Cat> mount as usual?
[09:49] <EriC^^> same old
[09:49] <EriC^^> yup
[09:51] <White_Cat> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:51] <White_Cat> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[09:51] <White_Cat> for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:51] <White_Cat> sudo chroot /mnt
[09:51] <White_Cat> done
[09:51] <EriC^^> ok
[09:51] <EriC^^> type ls /boot for good measure
[09:51] <EriC^^> ls -la /boot
[09:51] <White_Cat> it lists items
[09:51] <EriC^^> ok
[09:52] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513377/
[09:52] <White_Cat> this is strange
[09:53] <sheer> hello. i have a small issue i was hoping someone could help me with...
[09:53] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[09:53] <winterchillz> !ash | sheer
[09:54] <winterchillz> !ask | sheer
[09:54] <sheer> i can connect to the wireless network on my laptop and phone, but when i try on the computer...... nope
[09:54] <winterchillz> Please elaborate
[09:54] <sheer> computer being ubuntu OS, but yeah
[09:56] <EriC^^> White_Cat, maybe we were supposed to set boot=(hd1,gpt2) ? maybe grub looks for that when you do ls /boot ? that's the only thing i can think of
[09:56] <winterchillz> sheer: what happens exactly? Do you see the Wi-Fi card or the connection fails at some point?
[09:56] <White_Cat> hmm
[09:56] <sheer> it just doesn't connect
[09:57] <sheer> i don't know how to use linux so..
[09:57] <sheer> i just used the interface
[09:57] <sheer> no error
[09:57] <sheer> no connection either
[09:57] <White_Cat> EriC^^ that does make sense
[09:57] <White_Cat> I dont see why the backup is the first disk tbh
[09:58] <EriC^^> probaby a grub thing
[09:58] <White_Cat> grrrrr ub :p
[09:58] <EriC^^> hehe
[10:00] <EriC^^> White_Cat, did grub reinstall?
[10:00] <White_Cat> so what do you propose I do?
[10:00] <White_Cat> yup
[10:00] <White_Cat> without errors
[10:00] <EriC^^> ok
[10:01] <EriC^^> check cat /etc/default/grub real quick see if it didn't use another
[10:01] <EriC^^> i think it leaves it in tact and update-grub
[10:02] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513452/
[10:03] <hillary> Corrected the errors after changing servers to  http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za
[10:04] <EriC^^> White_Cat, ok, looks good
[10:04] <EriC^^> White_Cat, type exit and then reboot
[10:08] <Secret-Fire> glibc=libc6?
[10:13] <White_Cat_mobil_> Eric back
[10:13] <EriC^^> wb
[10:13] <White_Cat_mobil_> Ran out of batteries
[10:14] <EriC^^> np
[10:14] <EriC^^> did it work?
[10:18] <White_Cat> EriC^^ still just grub
[10:19] <EriC^^> ok
[10:19] <EriC^^> try set boot=(hd1,gpt2)/boot
[10:19] <White_Cat> directory /boot still empty
[10:20] <EriC^^> ok
[10:20] <White_Cat> set boot=(hd1,gpt2)/boot -> then ls / returns an error
[10:20] <EriC^^> try ls /boot
[10:21] <White_Cat> error: disk '(hd1,gpt2)/boot' not found
[10:21] <White_Cat> ls
[10:21] <White_Cat> permission issue?
[10:21] <EriC^^> ok try set root=(hd1,gpt2)
[10:22] <White_Cat> ls / works again
[10:22] <White_Cat> maybe ls just lists directories?
[10:22] <EriC^^> ok, is /boot there?
[10:22] <White_Cat> boot/ is there
[10:22] <White_Cat> not /boot though
[10:23] <EriC^^> try ls boot
[10:23] <White_Cat> invalid file name
[10:23] <EriC^^> try ls /boot
[10:24] <White_Cat> blank
[10:24] <White_Cat> empty line
[10:24] <White_Cat> maybe they are hidden or something?
[10:24] <White_Cat> this makes no sense
[10:25] <EriC^^> is the whole file system there?
[10:25] <White_Cat> what do you mean?
[10:25] <EriC^^> /etc /bin /home ...
[10:26] <White_Cat> yeah /etc has stuff in it
[10:26] <White_Cat> as does bin and home
[10:26] <White_Cat> home has the new username too
[10:26] <White_Cat> the only thing vacant seems to be boot
[10:26] <White_Cat> which was there
[10:27] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513377/
[10:29] <EriC^^> ok
[10:29] <EriC^^> type ls (hd0,1)
[10:29] <White_Cat> two diectories
[10:29] <White_Cat> its the backup drive
[10:30] <EriC^^> this is odd
[10:30] <White_Cat> on many levels
[10:31] <waterboy0911> hi.. what's new in ubuntu?
[10:31] <White_Cat> bugs and bug fixes? :p
[10:31] <OpenTokix> new color scheme, white and gold
[10:31] <White_Cat> ah and features
[10:33] <mina1> ubuntu-mate-14.10-desktop-386
[10:33] <tos-1> Secret-Fire: Yes and no; Ubuntu uses the Embedded GNU C Library. So libc6=eglibc. (Since eglibc is now abandoned, Debian announced to switch back, i.e. Ubuntu might also switch back in the near future; or already has?)
[10:33] <White_Cat> EriC^^ what should I do?
[10:33] <sheer> sooo $10 to whoever gets me connected to the internet on my desktop
[10:34] <White_Cat> $10 / second of work?
[10:34] <White_Cat> if so you owe me $60
[10:34] <k1l> sheer: give more details and people will try to help without demanding money :)
[10:35] <White_Cat> yeah
[10:35] <sheer> i'm just not able to connect to my wifi network
[10:35] <sheer> idk why. i'm a complete ubuntu/linux noob
[10:35] <k1l> sheer: please pastebin the output of "lspci" and "rfkill list" into a pastebin and show the link here
[10:37] <EriC^^> White_Cat, you could try to boot from the live cd and get it's grub menu
[10:37] <EriC^^> White_Cat, try holding shift while it boots
[10:37] <White_Cat> ok
[10:38] <White_Cat> was reading https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170764
[10:38] <White_Cat> a bbs... really?
[10:41] <White_Cat> I am on live cd grub
[10:41] <White_Cat> I can boot to live cd if you like
[10:42] <EriC^^> ok wait
[10:42] <EriC^^> press c
[10:42] <White_Cat> its the grub prompt
[10:42] <EriC^^> ok type ls
[10:42] <White_Cat> there is memdisk hd0 hd1 and hd2
[10:42] <White_Cat> memdisk?
[10:43] <White_Cat> a pretend drive for livecd probably
[10:43] <White_Cat> hd2 has gpt
[10:43] <EriC^^> cool
[10:43] <EriC^^> try ls (hd2,gpt2)/boot
[10:43] <White_Cat> empty
[10:44] <EriC^^> ls (hd2,gpt2)/ ?
[10:44] <White_Cat> various directories you would see ubuntu / has
[10:44] <EriC^^> you have 2 partitions right? fat32 the "/" and swap?
[10:44] <EriC^^> *3 partitions
[10:44] <White_Cat> efi ubuntu swap
[10:44] <EriC^^> ok
[10:44] <geirha> ls @(hd2|gpt2)/
[10:45] <geirha> oh wait, is it grub syntax? nevermind
[10:45] <k1l> i hope fat32 is not a ubuntu partition.
[10:45] <White_Cat> I think ubuntu partition is ext not fat
[10:45] <White_Cat> backup is fat for whatever the reason
[10:46] <k1l> i hope, because ubuntu doesnt work on fat becasue of the missing file permissions in fat.
[10:46] <EriC^^> White_Cat, i dont get why grub won't see /boot
[10:46] <EriC^^> it's on the same filesystem as "/"
[10:46] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10512948/
[10:47] <White_Cat> yes
[10:48] <White_Cat> efi partition is fat
[10:48] <White_Cat> should I boot to live cd? and can we do that from grub menu if I can get that back?
[10:48] <White_Cat> a reboot takes 3 mins
[10:48] <White_Cat> :/
[10:48] <EriC^^> this comes to mind http://xkcd.com/724/
[10:49] <EriC^^> it doesn't make sense
[10:53] <White_Cat> booting to live cd
[10:54] <EriC^^> ok
[10:54] <hillary> Assist me with a command to completely remove LAMP in ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[10:55] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/K03YhVcf done
[10:55] <EriC^^> ok
[10:56] <White_Cat> boot is populated
[10:56] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v
[10:56] <EriC^^> it's not needed but what the heck
[10:57] <White_Cat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10513926/
[10:57] <EriC^^> looks good
[10:57] <White_Cat> I think grub wasnt able to read the config file
[10:58] <White_Cat> thats why it wasnt able to show me a list
[10:58] <EriC^^> so we know it's not cause of your grub, cause you used the live cd grub and it didn't see /boot either
[10:58] <White_Cat> hmm
[10:58] <White_Cat> yes
[10:59] <hillary> i need to purge Lamp in ubuntu 14.04.2 the reinstall. what do i do?
[10:59] <hamed> i want to boot from live cd and format my whole drive so that i can install windows 8.1, how should i do it? my windows DVD isntaller can't identify the hard disk due to some mess i did via an uncomplete ubuntu installation and messing with partition table and so ...
[10:59] <EriC^^> hamed, use gparted to create a new gpt partition table
[11:00] <EriC^^> hamed, then boot the windows installer
[11:02] <White_Cat> EriC^^ what can I try really
[11:02] <EriC^^> White_Cat, i'd ask in ##linux about it
[11:03] <EriC^^> it's kind of odd grub doesn't see your /boot dir
[11:03] <White_Cat> okay
[11:03] <White_Cat> can you show up as well? I mean I am unsure if I can explain this as well as you
[11:03] <White_Cat> or maybe in #grub ?
[11:03] <EriC^^> yeah i'm already there
[11:05] <White_Cat> In my experience #linux hasnt been very helpful in the past
[11:05] <gr33n7007h> hamed: use dd to completely wipe it then create a fs with mkfs.ntfs
[11:05] <EriC^^> White_Cat, nah they are helpful
[11:06] <White_Cat> I asked the same question in #grub as well
[11:06] <hamed> EriC^^: do you confirm "use dd to completely wipe it then create a fs with mkfs.ntfs"?
[11:08] <EriC^^> hamed, no
[11:08] <EriC^^> hamed, no need to dd, and before creating a filesystem you need to have a partition table and partitions
[11:08] <hamed> EriC^^: i couldn't find gpt option in gparted
[11:09] <EriC^^> hamed, create new partition table or something
[11:09] <sheer> k1l: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wfJNb2kq
[11:11] <k1l> sheer: is this a usb wifi dongle? then please pastebin a "lsusb"
[11:12] <crocket> Hi
[11:13] <crocket> I'm on ubuntu 14.04. How do I add esperanto circumflexes and use it?
[11:14] <solsTiCe> hi. I just noticed that /var/log/apt/history.log is empty. It is dated 1st mars so it has been log rotated. But I have run several apt-get command and nothing new seems to be recorded anymore!?
[11:16] <solsTiCe> I have rebooted since 1st mars too
[11:18] <night_girl> hi
[11:18] <night_girl> what is the easiest way of installing skype on ubuntu?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> night_girl, enable partner repository.  install skype.  done
[11:19] <night_girl> how do i enable partner repository from software center
[11:20] <hateball> !skype
[11:20] <cfhowlett> night_girl, "software settings"
[11:20] <night_girl> i dont see no software settings
[11:21] <night_girl> canonical partners?
[11:21] <IdleOne> yes
[11:21] <cfhowlett> night_girl, yep
[11:22] <night_girl> of its taking a long time, i guess its getting a list of the sotwares and shit as its the first time (my ubuntu is just virgin installed)
[11:22] <crocket> I finally got it.
[11:22] <cfhowlett> night_girl, this is a family friendly channel = zero profanity
[11:23] <night_girl> i am so sorry about that :(
[11:30] <niervol> hi all. How to find natty repo with ntp or .deb packege for ntp for 64-bit natty? It looks like it's not available. Which else .deb I could use? thank you
[11:30] <niervol> 11.04 natty
[11:30] <mjayk> whats the best tool for lvm snapshotting ?
[11:31] <k1l> niervol: you need to either upgrade or reinstall _asap_
[11:31] <k1l> !eol | niervol
[11:31] <Bing0> !topic
[11:32] <Bing0> did you read the message channel?
[11:41] <ashley_> yo
[11:44] <wowk> anyone?
[11:45] <daftykins> did you ask something?
[11:45] <daftykins> no you just joined. speak!
[11:48] <night_girl> hows that possible that i cant play html5/mp4 videos on firefox
[11:48] <night_girl> gosh
[11:49] <k1l> !codecs | night_girl
[11:50] <night_girl> is there a flawless way to make my ubuntu install all of these things?
[11:50] <flips> On a 14.04LTS server, it gets a lot kernel updates requiring reboots all the time. I'd like security patches for kernels, but I don't need new features as often. What's the best path? Hold a package, or remove linux-image-generic, or some other way?
[11:50] <night_girl> why do i need to read things to just install something that should already bge installed?
[11:50] <k1l> night_girl: you are not allowed to ship that with ubuntu since its a licence thingy. that is the reason
[11:51] <night_girl> kll morning ! you remember me from last night right
[11:51] <EriC^^> White_Cat, any progress?
[11:51] <night_girl> okie so what do i do now? just follow the link for freeformats installing?
[11:52] <k1l> night_girl: install the codecs for the media formats you want to play
[11:52] <night_girl> from the sotware center?
[11:54] <White_Cat> EriC^^ none
[11:54] <White_Cat> what I said in frustration seems like a good idea though
[11:54] <EriC^^> not really
[11:55] <EriC^^> you could reinstall ubuntu and use a separate boot partition maybe
[11:55] <EriC^^> it could be fixed though without doing so, it's up to you
[11:56] <bipul> Is there any tools for monitoring Mysql5.6
[11:56] <bipul> Mysql-server?
[11:57] <EriC^^> White_Cat, if you want use your swap as /boot just for testing
[11:57] <k1l> night_girl: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:57] <EriC^^> White_Cat, boot a live usb and use sudo cgdisk /dev/sda to make it a boot partition
[11:57] <night_girl> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:58] <EriC^^> White_Cat, you want to give it a shot?
[11:58] <Squall5668> KingK: what kind of monitor? If you need to monitor resources you can use top/htop, if you need to monitor queries you can log them (logging them on a high-traffic server is a bad idea)
[11:58] <night_girl> sorry
[11:58] <night_girl> thanks kll!
[11:58] <Squall5668> sorry s/KingK/bipul
[11:59] <k1l> night_girl: but gstreamer should ask you for install all the codecs needed
[11:59] <bipul> Squall5668: ?
[11:59] <bipul> Mysql-server Squall5668
[11:59] <Squall5668> bipul: what kind of monitor? If you need to monitor resources you can use top/htop, if you need to monitor queries you can log them (logging them on a high-traffic server is a bad idea)
[11:59] <night_girl> what is gstreamer?
[11:59] <night_girl> i was playign a video on firefox
[12:00] <night_girl> do u have a list of "good" software i should install on my ubuntu to make it more lively and get the most of it?? I am going to use it actively to program on c++ btw
[12:00] <k1l> night_girl: its a program that handles codecs.
[12:01] <k1l> night_girl: well. install the software you need. that depends from the users usecase that is different from user to user
[12:01] <daftykins> night_girl: just install what you need as and when, hardly worth filling up a system with unnecessary junk because someone else said they use 'x'
[12:01] <night_girl> yes but i need to discover software how can i do this?
[12:02] <night_girl> if i never knew it existed
[12:02] <daftykins> night_girl: the software centre...
[12:02] <night_girl> all right
[12:02] <k1l> night_girl: well. think about what you want to do and look out for a program that can handle that.
[12:02] <daftykins> or the splended command line tools for searching, such as 'apt-cache search'
[12:02] <daftykins> *splendid
[12:03] <night_girl> btw the canonical partners on software center only has 30 software
[12:03] <night_girl> is that normal?
[12:08] <lpaalp1> hi, how can I make sure removable media can only be mounted by my user and not others?
[12:20] <Scooty-loo> hey there, is there a way to check ubuntu repo servers' status?
[12:20] <Scooty-loo> it's really slow at the moment
[12:21] <daftykins> pick another mirror that's local to try
[12:21] <Scooty-loo> the local one tends to mess up so I go with the US one...
[12:22] <daftykins> i don't have a clue where you are so that's a tough thing to comment on :)
[12:22] <LMNOP> scotty there are a ton of ubunto mirrors
[12:22] <Scooty-loo> Hong Kong
[12:22] <daftykins> plus there is a built-in mirror tester
[12:22] <scott1> Hi guy
[12:22] <LMNOP> hi
[12:22] <scott1> anhy one experenced with ISO 27001 ??
[12:22] <daftykins> then you might want to pick something else :) international links always vary in speed
[12:23] <Scooty-loo> I manually changed it back to US since it's usually faster and less likely to be down
[12:23] <scott1> anhy one experenced with ISO 27001 ??
[12:23] <scott1> one experenced with ISO 27001 ??
[12:23] <scott1> any one experenced with ISO 27001 ??
[12:23] <daftykins> scott1: what relevance does that have to Ubuntu OS support?
[12:23] <daftykins> and why are you repeating yourself like a rude person?
[12:23] <scott1> Regarding a compliance @daftykins
[12:23] <daftykins> 'a compliance'
[12:24] <daftykins> good luck then if you're going to be vague :)
[12:24] <scott1> sorry buddy Just got stucked
[12:24] <scott1> :)
[12:24] <Scooty-loo> Well then I can only guess that there's a lot of people downloading packages atm
[12:24] <scott1> We are actually implementing some useractivity session recording application on Ubuntu Servers
[12:25] <Scooty-loo> I see
[12:25] <scott1> and as per ISO 27001:2013 and PCI Compliance
[12:25] <daftykins> Scooty-loo: no harm in trying others
[12:25] <daftykins> scott1: i think you'd be better off with #ubuntu-offtopic until you can actually come up with a specific question
[12:26] <Scooty-loo> well I'm doing some school work atm so I will just leave it in the background and be slow
[12:41] <kuldeep> i am using ubuntu 14.04 lts
[12:41] <kuldeep> i am not able to open my home
[12:41] <daftykins> via what method?
[12:42] <Luyin> kuldeep: show output of ls -l /home/youruser
[12:42] <kuldeep> in home everything is lock how can i open it
[12:42] <daftykins> explain what you mean then perhaps we can get somewhere :)
[12:43] <kuldeep> in gui when i am open my home then every folder have a icon with lock
[12:43] <opqw> kuldeep: tell the doctor what did you do to screw it up
[12:43] <Luyin> kuldeep: open a terminal and enter what I wrote above
[12:43] <opqw> that will save time to both us and you
[12:43] <kuldeep> ok
[12:44] <Squall5668> sound like you did a recursive chown in your home folder
[12:44] <kuldeep> yeah i did ls -l
[12:44] <daftykins> the ol' permissions shotgun
[12:45] <kuldeep> maybe now what i do
[12:45] <daftykins> kuldeep: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" ... "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[12:46] <kuldeep> i don't think so because when i want to open any folder alert box open and say you have no valid permission to open it
[12:46] <EriC^^> that sounds like it
[12:46] <daftykins> kuldeep: can you run the two commands?
[12:46] <Luyin> kuldeep: I do think so ;) now do us the favour and run the commands
[12:46] <kuldeep> yeah sure why not
[12:47] <daftykins> it's one o' those days where it's like blood from a stone (:
[12:47] <kuldeep> send command plz
[12:47] <EriC^^> where's mosses when you need him
[12:47] <daftykins> they're above
[12:47] <daftykins> kuldeep: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" ... "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[12:48] <EriC^^> tuxmoses
[12:48] <daftykins> two ^
[12:48] <daftykins> EriC^^: :D
[12:48] <daftykins> probably parting the FOSS sea
[12:48] <EriC^^> haha
[12:48] <EriC^^> :D
[12:48] <daftykins> you know those penguins and fish
[12:48]  * daftykins gets back on topic
[12:49] <EriC^^> :D
[12:49] <kuldeep> how to write permission to open it like chmod 777
[12:49] <daftykins> kuldeep: we need to see the link created by my commands first
[12:49] <Luyin> kuldeep: ANSWER THE QUESTION, srsly
[12:49] <kuldeep> ok
[12:50] <kuldeep> sudo apt-get install pastebinit" .. i run the command
[12:51] <daftykins> oh dear we've lost kuldeep
[12:52] <Luyin> I'm not sure if I'll survive the loss...
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:52] <daftykins> hey BluesKaj
[12:53] <Krick> Dude i am unable to open music
[12:53] <Krick> in ubuntu 14.04 lts
[12:54] <Krick> they say you have no permission to open it
[12:54] <opqw> Hello, does this article about Dropbox  also apply to Ubuntu? http://www.e-siber.com/guvenlik/dropbox-accesses-all-the-files-in-your-pc-not-just-sync-folder-and-steals-everything/
[12:54] <daftykins> Krick: renaming yourself from kuldeep doesn't really help us solve the initial problem.
[12:55] <Krick> sorry don't get it
[12:55] <daftykins> Krick: so please just run the commands instructed earlier. "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Hi daftykins
[12:56] <EriC^^> i think he doesn't want us to know the names of his files
[12:56] <EriC^^> ( maybe )
[12:56] <Luyin> lol
[12:56] <McMido> hello ,i just installed phpmyadmin but its not working correctly it just shows some php codes . how to fix that ??
[12:56] <EriC^^> it's happened before here :D
[12:57] <Squall5668> not a recursive ls, it'll just print the directories and their permissions. Besides he could just paste manually and edit the names...
[12:57] <daftykins> ^
[12:57] <daftykins> so it's just down to making life hard for us to help
[12:57] <daftykins> watch the IP, i'm sure Krick / kuldeep will be back shortly
[12:58] <daftykins> perhaps it will be "i can't see my pictures" this time
[12:58] <EriC^^> nightwithmyneighbor.mp4
[12:58] <EriC^^> he's probably asking his wife if she ever chats on #ubuntu right now
[12:58] <EriC^^> lol
[12:58] <McMido> any ideas guys ??
[12:58] <daftykins> McMido: apache?
[12:59] <McMido> phpmyadmin not apache . its shown only the php script not the php site it self.
[12:59] <daftykins> EriC^^: with such neighbours i might consider moving
[12:59] <McMido> .me
[12:59] <EriC^^> lol
[12:59] <daftykins> McMido: yes but phpmyadmin is a web app, so it has to run on a web server
[12:59] <daftykins> so i'm asking which web server...
[13:00] <daftykins> McMido: are you new to web server administration?
[13:00] <McMido> oh its apahce2
[13:00] <daftykins> yay there we go
[13:00] <McMido> yes.
[13:00] <daftykins> ok did you install php and enable the module?
[13:00] <McMido> i did install the php but idk about modules
[13:01] <daftykins> ok well - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[13:01] <daftykins> seems relevant 0o
[13:02] <daftykins> "sudo a2enmod php5"
[13:02] <Ben64> McMido: is this a publicly accessible server?
[13:02] <McMido> no
[13:02] <Ben64> that's good
[13:02] <MicrobeSerf> msg/ NickServ VERIFY REGISTER MicrobeSerf tmjtppepnlmt
[13:03] <Fuchs> MicrobeSerf: msg is after the /
[13:03] <Fuchs> /msg nickserv     << like this
[13:03] <MicrobeSerf> lol
[13:03] <Squall5668> and probably change your password
[13:03] <MicrobeSerf> thanx fuchs
[13:03] <Fuchs> it's not his password
[13:04] <Fuchs> you're welcome :)
[13:04] <Squall5668> ah freenode had activation stuff. Sorry
[13:04] <daftykins> also, always run IRC commands in the status window to avoid embarassment
[13:04] <Fuchs> no worries, and yes
[13:05] <McMido> after enabling the module i got this error
[13:05] <McMido> Enabling module php5.
[13:05] <McMido> To activate the new configuration, you need to run:
[13:05] <McMido>   service apache2 restart
[13:05] <McMido> mcgyver@mcgyver-G41MT-S2P:/etc/apache2$ sudo service apache2 restart
[13:05] <McMido>  * Restarting web server apache2                                                                                                         [fail]
[13:05] <Ben64> !paste | McMido
[13:06] <daftykins> McMido: once you get -q'd feel free to paste a nice pastebin link
[13:06] <Luyin> does the quieting in the channel work automatically?
[13:06] <MicrobeSerf> Registered.
[13:07] <nect_> Hi guys. I want to install multiple live OSes (what is the proper plural ? ) . Would creating a couple, fitting, partitions and dd the iso files on to them and then running grub-install  on the usb do the trick ?
[13:07] <EriC^^> Luyin, yeah Drone` takes care of it
[13:07] <Luyin> ah nice
[13:07] <EriC^^> it was unopaste before that, wonder what happened to that bot
[13:08] <McMido> alright
[13:08] <daftykins> nect_: there's a nice Windows program called YUMI from pendrivelinux.com that allows loading up multiple ISOs on a single flash drive
[13:08] <nect_> daftykins: I don't have a nice windows though ;)
[13:09] <hateball> !windows | daftykins
[13:09] <daftykins> :P
[13:09] <daftykins> nect_: then there's definitely some method involving GRUB and placing the ISOs contiguously, i don't know it though
[13:10] <EriC^^> i think there was a program called multiboot or something
[13:10] <EriC^^> or two programs, and 1 was dead
[13:12] <EriC^^> anyways this covers doing it manually, should come in handy https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive
[13:13] <MicrobeSerf> whois MicrobeSerf
[13:13] <MicrobeSerf> aaah.
[13:13] <EriC^^> this is it, i think it's still updated http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:14] <EriC^^> nect_, ^
[13:14] <bipul> EriC^^: But it's hard to boot with pendrive, when you are installing on VM.
[13:15] <EriC^^> i think i missed part of the conversation
[13:15] <McMido> and thats the error :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/10514939/plain/
[13:15] <hillary> the eclipse in the ubuntu software centre is old. is it adviseable i download another?
[13:15] <EriC^^> bipul, isn't he making a live usb with a bunch of different isos?
[13:16] <OpenTokix> hillary: no, learn a real editor. - If you are hell bent on eclipse, try that one - and if it misses some feature you need, get another one.
[13:16] <nect_> EriC^^ : Thank you.
[13:16] <hillary> OpenTokix ok
[13:16] <OpenTokix> hillary: Are you a java programmer?
[13:16] <bipul> I gues, a single pendrive for a single .ios
[13:16] <OpenTokix> hillary: just out of curiosity, since only java programmers I have meet is obsessed with version numbers.
[13:17] <hillary> OpenTkix ye
[13:17] <daftykins> bipul: nope
[13:17] <hillary> OpenTkix but i dont want to mess my os with other downloads
[13:18] <OpenTokix> hillary: so don't
[13:18] <hillary> OpenTokix Ok thanks for the advice
[13:18] <OpenTokix> hillary: yw, happy coding
[13:20] <ioria> hillary: try this ... is very light  :http://sourceforge.net/projects/eje/
[13:21] <hillary> ioria: Let me check
[13:22] <hillary> ioria: any best way of installing? or i have to download first
[13:22] <ioria> hillary:   just download and read the READme
[13:23] <hillary> ioria ok
[13:23] <OpenTokix> ioria: hillarious  - "light-weight" and "written in java" in the same paragraph =)
[13:23] <Squall5668> OpenTokix: please don't
[13:24] <ioria> OpenTokix,  :-P
[13:24] <opqw> OpenTokix: please bring offtopic or non-constructive discussion in #ubutnu-offtopic, thx
[13:29] <parlocosizarathu> ciao
[13:29] <parlocosizarathu> avete visto il nuovo ubuntu phone?
[13:29] <parlocosizarathu> che ne pensate?
[13:29] <EriC^^> !it | parlocosizarathu
[13:29] <daftykins> english only
[13:29] <parlocosizarathu> sorry
[13:29] <hillary> ioria: ready to go eje 3.3
[13:29] <parlocosizarathu> did anyone see the new ubuntu phone?
[13:29] <daftykins> you might want #ubuntu-touch
[13:30] <ioria> hillary:   :-P
[13:30] <parlocosizarathu> didn't like
[13:33] <nitro282> ciao ragazzi
[13:33] <Bing0> caio millie
[13:33] <Bing0> ciao*
[13:34] <Bing0> non ai ragazzi qui
[13:34] <Bing0> vade via subitu
[13:35] <bazhang> !it | Bing0
[13:35] <Bing0> tell that to nitro
[13:35] <daftykins> seems they travel in packs.
[13:36] <Bing0> who?
[13:36] <bazhang> Bing0, do you have an ubuntu support question
[13:36]  * Bing0 looksup ubuntu foruns
[13:36] <Bing0> let find a good one
[13:37] <Bing0> me*
[13:37] <bazhang> Bing0, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:37] <Bing0> right on
[13:39] <boodllebat> i'm confusted what is this , i just performed TCP dump on my system and i saw lot of request between akamaitechnologies
[13:39] <popey> boodllebat: akamai provide cdn services.
[13:40] <boodllebat> popey: why is my tcpdump populated with so many of akamaitechnologies  requests ?
[13:40] <popey> boodllebat: depends what you're doing
[13:40] <boodllebat> popey: i'm doing nothing !
[13:40] <boodllebat> popey: just monitoring !
[13:40] <daftykins> likely would be streaming services, downloads...
[13:41] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: close yoru webbrowser
[13:41] <ioria> right
[13:41] <Myrtti> boodllebat: facebook open in your browser?
[13:42] <boodllebat> seems like browser was the problem
[13:43] <daftykins> i've got to be honest - if you're playing with tcpdump and see some traffic, having internet-based programs open... closing them is the #1 place to start.
[13:43] <ioria> use ping ,ftp or telnet or ssh
[13:44] <boodllebat> daftykins: hmm you are right
[13:47] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: Akamai does some 30% of the combined total internet traffic in the world.
[13:48] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: They are pretty  significant
[13:48] <EriC^^> illuminati confirmed.
[13:48] <daftykins> XD
[13:50] <pbx> when i'm working with git and it launches $EDITOR (emacs) the app is not foregrounded, so i have to switch to it. is there a way to make that happen automatically?
[13:50] <pbx> (it may sound like a git question but i don't *think* it is...)
[13:50] <boodllebat> can anybody tell me what is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10515334/
[13:51] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: NTP, time server
[13:51] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: why am i sending request there ?
[13:52] <ioria> to syncronize i  think
[13:52] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: Because you are running ntpd, or ntpdate to keep your clock in sync
[13:52] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: it is adviceable to keep clock in sync
[13:52] <Pici> pbx: thats not normal... vim comes up instantly for me... /me thinks
[13:52] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: thanks !
[13:52] <OpenTokix> Pici: it depends what is EDITOR is set to - and he said emacs
[13:53] <OpenTokix> pbx: graphical emacs in x11?
[13:53] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: is there any way i can tcpdump all devices which are connected to my router
[13:53] <Bing0> vim me up scotty
[13:53] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: What do you mean?
[13:53] <pbx> OpenTokix, yes.
[13:54] <OpenTokix> pbx: It is a setting your window manager, to allow "new windows to take focus" - and it depends on your window manager, and your focus settings.
[13:54] <OpenTokix> pbx: I am running XFCE4, and I have disabled "new windows take focus" intentionally
[13:54] <Pici> OpenTokix, pbx: Ah. I must have misunderstood. I thought we were talking about foregrounding the process using 'fg'
[13:54] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: i have a router i have four systems at my home they all are connected to my  router i want to monitor my brother's tcpdump is there any way ?
[13:54] <hillary> I keep getting this error "System program problem detected" ubuntu 14.04.2LTS
[13:54] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: Yes, but I wont help you spy on your brother.
[13:55] <pbx> OpenTokix, interesting.  running unity, will look for that
[13:55] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: i wont spy
[13:55] <hillary> I keep reporting and nothing is solved
[13:55] <Bing0> XFCE arguably the most honest to god no nonsensical DE ever devised
[13:55] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: Then ask your brother for root on his machine, and dump the network traffic at his interface
[13:55] <mysupper> hmm , looks like krusader without KDE installation still has same bug. It show empty screen and can't do anything. after removing config , then the normal start was possible.
[13:55] <OpenTokix> Bing0: like that sentence, I think ;)
[13:55] <mcphail> hillary: what is causing the system problem?
[13:56] <hillary> i dont know exacly
[13:56] <daftykins> boodllebat: why don't you tell us what you're *really* trying to achieve?
[13:56] <OpenTokix> hillary: check in dmesg
[13:56] <hillary> it is justing poping up
[13:56] <boodllebat> daftykins: i wanna montior all the HTTP requests going in and out via my home
[13:56] <ioria> hillay: http://www.binarytides.com/ubuntu-fix-system-program-problem-error/
[13:57] <daftykins> boodllebat: no, that's a 'how' - not a 'why' :)
[13:57] <mcphail> hillary: the dialog comes up if something has written to /var/crash/. That may give clues as to the culprit. If you don't care what is causing the problem, you can try removing everything from /var/crash and see if the dialog goes away
[13:57] <hillary> OpenTokix i run dmesg?
[13:57] <OpenTokix> hillary: open a terminal: sudo dmesg
[13:57] <OpenTokix> hillary: I am pretty sure you will find some "hung task for 120s"
[13:57] <OpenTokix> in there
[13:58] <boodllebat> daftykins: i wanna montior all requests fo security purpose , so that i can keep eye if any illegal or harmful thing is being opened or not
[13:58] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: "dump the network traffic at his interface" what do you mean by that ?
[13:58] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: log in as root on his machine, and tcpdump to a pcap file there
[13:59] <daftykins> boodllebat: yeah, that doesn't make any sense
[13:59] <daftykins> you're never going to spot every single established TCP/UDP Session :)
[13:59] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: now how can i see his traffic , my router does not contain OS i guess
[14:00] <hillary> OpenTokix yes i got chunks of text
[14:00] <boodllebat> daftykins: i can grep for content fo what i'm looking for
[14:00] <OpenTokix> hillary: did you find any "hungtask"?
[14:00]  * Bing0 likes it sounding chunky
[14:00] <daftykins> boodllebat: that leads me to believe that there is a specific thing you're still not explaining :)
[14:01] <boodllebat> daftykins: well i have to sniff a POST request
[14:01] <hillary> OpenTokix: yes
[14:01] <daftykins> 'have to' ?
[14:01] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: Are you trying to steal your brothers facebook credentials or something? - That is illegal
[14:01] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: no no no !
[14:01] <mysupper> :)
[14:01] <daftykins> to be quite honest it sounds like you're just trying to play games with your sibling/family - and that is not acceptable here.
[14:02] <Bing0> i shar my FB with all my friends
[14:02] <popey> Bing0: enough with the social commentary, you know where chat goes.
[14:02] <boodllebat> daftykins: its not a game ! it looks like a game cause description is similar that is why
[14:02] <mysupper> I should call his bro use SSL.
[14:02] <boodllebat> daftykins: its not illegal
[14:02] <jadesoturi> hi all. iv setup a vsftpd server and changed the owner of the folders to www-data user, and added my user to the www-data group and set 774 permission on the folder, but when im trying to delete the folders through an FTP client it fails.. but i can delete them over SSH, why is that?
[14:03] <daftykins> boodllebat: i never used the word illegal.
[14:03] <OpenTokix> hillary: that is the application popping up the dialog box
[14:03] <mysupper> jadesoturi, did vsftpd run as user www-data?
[14:03] <Bing0> daftykins: you just did
[14:03] <jadesoturi> mysupper, i imagine not.. :/ how do i check that?
[14:03] <thecha> how do i remove only old kernels from cli?
[14:03] <hillary> OpenTokix How do i clear it
[14:03] <Xano> Can services be run as daemons through Upstart? E.g. are they disconnected from everything and able to run indefinitely?
[14:04] <daftykins> Bing0: either ask a support question or leave, please.
[14:04] <mysupper> I guess vsftpd,conf something like that has conf in /etc/vsfts..blah..
[14:04] <OpenTokix> hillary: Clear? - What process is it?
[14:04] <boodllebat> daftykins: my router has no OS is this possible for me ?
[14:04] <mysupper> check it out.
[14:04]  * Bing0 is looking for the door
[14:04] <thecha> how do i remove only old kernels from cli?
[14:04] <hillary> OpenTokix. Not clear at all
[14:05] <daftykins> boodllebat: yes but i am unwilling to help. try ##networking
[14:05] <EriC^^> thecha, sudo apt-get autoremove might cut it
[14:05] <boodllebat> daftykins: anyspecific reason you dont wanna help me ?
[14:05] <EriC^^> thecha, check with dpkg -l | grep linux-image and manually remove the old ones
[14:05] <thecha> thank you cartman! screw you guys i am going home
[14:05] <popey> boodllebat: what you're asking sounds dodgy.
[14:05] <OpenTokix> hillary: on the line that say "hung task" it also say a binary name
[14:05] <EriC^^> ( sudo apt-get purge <old kernel> )
[14:05] <Bing0> how does a technical question sound doggy?
[14:05] <popey> boodllebat: and isn't technically an ubuntu issue
[14:06] <boodllebat> OpenTokix: my router does not support OS how does pcap file is going to help me ?
[14:06] <daftykins> boodllebat: yes, your tasks are not sensible ones
[14:06] <mysupper> I recommand not to remove old kernels. There'ssome reason why it is there.
[14:06] <OpenTokix> boodllebat: I will not discuss this further.
[14:06] <mysupper> maybe some tiny sym links..and so on.
[14:07] <EriC^^> mysupper, it's not like a stamp collection or something..
[14:07] <mysupper> why is this freenx so fast? amazing.
[14:07] <mysupper> EriC^^, right.
[14:07] <osutapu> Hello guys, I have thins problem when I try to add any repo http://pastebin.com/cK6Chu5H
[14:07] <mysupper> EriC^^, but I recommnad not to do some root behavrio not knowing the real inside.
[14:08] <jpds> mysupper: Noone uses SSL these days, the only people that do, hang out with their POODLEs.
[14:08] <osutapu> this*
[14:08] <popey> mysupper: we recommend apt-get autoremove for removing old kernels, it's a common support answer.
[14:09] <mysupper> jpds, So you mean freenx don't use SSL and not safe . right?
[14:09] <mysupper> popey, accept that.
[14:10] <osutapu> Hello guys, I have this problem when I try to add any repo http://pastebin.com/cK6Chu5H
[14:10] <thecha> s/join #trisquel
[14:11] <popey> osutapu: what version of ubuntu you running?
[14:11] <osutapu> popey: 14.10
[14:11] <popey> osutapu: is it up to date?
[14:12] <osutapu> yes
[14:12] <popey> osutapu: genuine ubuntu, not some derivative?
[14:14] <osutapu> popey: nope, xubuntu. but i deleted most of xubuntu-desktop stuff and installed cinnamon, but problem emerged after i tried to add a repo manually through 'software and sources'
[14:14] <popey> osutapu: sounds like you're missing an update as a result of removing too much stuff
[14:14] <popey> (in my opinion)
[14:14] <osutapu> nope
[14:14] <popey> nope?
[14:14] <osutapu> that's not it probably
[14:14] <Squall5668> I look away for 5 minutes...
[14:16] <popey> osutapu: just issued the exact same command here. works fine. I suspect you're missing an SSL security update, on account of you being missing the xubuntu-desktop package
[14:16] <osutapu> popey: it happened after i tried to add a repo manually through 'software and sources'. afterwards i typed in terminal sudo apt-get update - it said i require gpg key
[14:16] <popey> yes, that I would expect
[14:16] <osutapu> yeah
[14:16] <popey> bet if you "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^" it pulls in some ssl related libs
[14:16] <popey> like python-openssl or something related.
[14:16] <osutapu> so i deleted that repo i just added, and made apt-get update.
[14:17] <popey> probably you're missing a certificate update which was sent out after a recent security vuln
[14:18] <osutapu> popey: then i try to add it properly (apt-add-repository), and this happens. it's not because of removing stuff, because i successfully added repose after removing stuff
[14:18] <osutapu> repos*
[14:19] <osutapu> although i'll try to install xubuntu-desktop again
[14:19] <popey> osutapu: hang on
[14:19] <popey> osutapu: what's the output of "apt-cache policy ca-certificates"
[14:19] <popey> should be 20141019ubuntu0.14.10.1 I think.
[14:20] <osutapu> it is so, yes
[14:20] <popey> ok. so not that.
[14:20] <Knight80> Hello everyone!
[14:20] <popey> osutapu: what about apt-cache policy nss ?
[14:20] <Knight80> Good afternoon from Spain
[14:21] <daftykins> Knight80: got a question?
[14:21] <osutapu> popey: Unable to locate package nss
[14:22] <Knight80> daftykins I actually do have a question
[14:22] <popey> osutapu: oh, the package name is libnss3 i think..
[14:23] <Knight80> daftykins I'm trying to watch movies stored in a remote windows machine from Ubuntu's mythtv
[14:23] <osutapu> popey: ok, i'll install it
[14:23] <popey> osutapu: bit of a guess...
[14:23] <boodllebat> hello my router is using linux but i have only access to its web interface i.e 192.168.0.1 on local address , i'm trying to get its shell access also i have its physical access but i dont to how get its shell or cli access
[14:23] <daftykins> Knight80: right, mythtv actually isn't anything to do with ubuntu, but the package is probably in the repos.
[14:24] <daftykins> boodllebat: already told you this is off topic, keep it in ##networking thanks.
[14:24] <popey> boodllebat: that's not really an ubuntu problem
[14:24] <osutapu> popey: libnss3 is already the newest version, but still Unable to locate package nss :D
[14:25] <Knight80> daftykins I have already installed mythtv, but I can't set the path of the remote windows machine without getting an error
[14:25] <popey> osutapu: yeah, there is no nss, it's libnss3, so not that. Sorry, I don't know what it could be then (but I still think something is missing or not up to date)
[14:25] <Knight80> daftykins In mythtvbackend
[14:25] <tc__> How can I replace ubuntu for xubuntu?
[14:25] <daftykins> Knight80: how are you trying to access it? SMB?
[14:25] <popey> osutapu: you're not using tor or a vpn are you?
[14:26] <Knight80> daftykins Yes, that's right.
[14:26] <daftykins> Knight80: i have never touched myth so i don't have a clue. i'm more familiar with Kodi/XBMC wherein smb://IP/share mounts are easy
[14:26] <osutapu> popey: nope. btw, apt-cache policy libnss3 says
[14:27] <osutapu> popey: and reinstalling xubuntu-desktop did not help
[14:27] <Knight80> daftykins Can I watch DVB-T with those as well?
[14:27] <tc__> ubottu you like you anderstand things how can I replace ubuntu for xubuntu
[14:27] <popey> osutapu: did you add the ^ on the end? sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^  <--- ?
[14:28] <pbx>  OpenTokix , found my window focus fix. compiz settings > focus & raise > focus prevention level (setting to 'low' fixed it)
[14:28] <pbx> thanks
[14:28] <OpenTokix> pbx: yw, glad to help
[14:28] <daftykins> Knight80: i'm not saying switching to them will solve your problems :)
[14:28] <osutapu> popey: nope, but right now it's obviously 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:28] <Symmetria> errr, so, I rebooted a box that has /dev/md0 as a mount point, that has been like that for ages, and it randomly decided to rename it to /dev/md127
[14:28] <Symmetria> anyone got any idea why that would happen?
[14:28] <popey> osutapu: try with the ^
[14:29] <Knight80> daftykins I know, but I could try at least.
[14:29] <Knight80> :)
[14:29] <tc__> neurot: you like you anderstand things how can I replace ubuntu for xubuntu
[14:29] <osutapu> popey: well i said, i tried and the result is 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:29] <daftykins> Knight80: nah, likely you're just missing libraries to smb mount. read myth's log file and see, or just mount the Windows box in your /etc/fstab then point to it in myth as alocal path
[14:29] <popey> osutapu: sorry, with the ^?
[14:29] <osutapu> popey: yes
[14:29] <popey> osutapu: okay, thanks. sorry.
[14:30] <popey> Knight80: yeah, I'd mount it in /etc/fstab - more reliable imo
[14:30] <popey> Knight80: takes away the complexity
[14:30] <daftykins> although such media centre programs tend to perform vastly differently with smb mounts native versus OS provided, so your success may vary
[14:31] <osutapu> popey: i guess i'll go and reinstall xubuntu :D
[14:31] <popey> :(
[14:31] <Knight80> daftykins I'm setting the path as follows --------> smb://REMOTE_WINDOWS_MACHINE/REMOTE_WINDOWS_FOLDER
[14:31] <osutapu> thanks anyway
[14:31] <Knight80> Am I doing it properly?
[14:31] <daftykins> Knight80: ok, well be sure to use IP address instead of hostname as that might be where your issue is coming from
[14:32] <Knight80> daftykins Thank you very much, I'm going to try that.
[14:32] <Knight80> :)
[14:32] <popey> Knight80: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[14:33] <jadesoturi> how to fix this: W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[14:33] <Knight80> popey Thank you :)
[14:33] <popey> np
[14:33] <jadesoturi> nvm.. fixed:)
[14:34] <popey> jadesoturi: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3E5C1192
[14:34] <popey> bah
[14:34] <jadesoturi> thx.. exactly what i did.. just last time i tried, it threw me an error of invalid key somethingsomething.
[14:36] <mysupper> Question: I can't resize opened window fast cause mouse pointer is not so sensitive or the mouse sensibe window corner is too slender. how can I solvethis?
[14:37] <daftykins> i've found that for years with Ubuntu, no idea why it's made so ridiculously ungrabbable
[14:38] <OpenTokix> mysupper: learn to youse alt + right and middle button, to pick any part of the window
[14:38] <daftykins> mysupper: do you have a middle mou... ^
[14:38] <mysupper> daftykins, yes.
[14:38] <mysupper> 5 button mouse.
[14:39] <OpenTokix> mysupper: alt or "windows"-button also known as "super" + right mouse buttoon
[14:39] <daftykins> so make the window active, hold left alt, then click in and hold the middle button... then move the mouse
[14:39] <OpenTokix> mysupper: will, or is possible to configre for resize
[14:40] <mysupper> trying
[14:41] <mysupper> Ok, alt button increases sensible area.
[14:41] <daftykins> bug 160311
[14:41] <mysupper> I wish this large sensible area should be default setting of me.
[14:42] <mysupper> oh..that's bug. he.
[14:42] <daftykins> love the way they claim it's fixed
[14:42] <OpenTokix> mysupper: or you can just adjus the sensitivity of your mouse?
[14:43] <mysupper> OpenTokix, I guess this behaviour is not related to sensitivity of my mouse.
[14:43] <daftykins> it's a design issue, not a mouse settings one
[14:43] <mysupper> daftykins, ok.
[14:44] <daftykins> install any supported version of ubuntu and open say, 'Files', try and grab the window borders... it's an exercise in frustration :)
[14:44] <mysupper> hehe.espeak is funny.
[14:44] <mysupper> daftykins, right
[14:44] <mysupper> daftykins, for me, quite nervous
[14:44] <daftykins> 1800dpi mouse here, can't do it
[14:45] <mysupper> puha..really funny. espeak even can read Korean words.
[14:46] <mysupper> But this man's voice is very stiff.
[14:46] <daftykins> mysupper: please keep it to support queries, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:47] <mysupper> daftykins, sorry
[14:47] <Knight80> I forgot to tell you that the remote windows folder has a username and password access
[14:48] <daftykins> Knight80: can't speak for myth, but after entering a share in the mentioned format, i know XBMC/Kodi prompt for login details. otherwise, try smb://username:password@IP/share
[14:48] <ntsp> sda1: WRITE SAME failed. Manually zeroing. - Any idea what this means?
[14:49] <daftykins> not without context
[14:49] <Knight80> daftykins Thans a lot, again :)
[14:49] <Knight80> Thanks a lot
[14:49] <daftykins> np
[14:49] <ntsp> just popped up on my console/syslog sda1 is my main backup drive (2TB), this appeared while writing to it
[14:50] <daftykins> ntsp: anything unhappy looking from dmesg?
[14:50] <daftykins> check the drives SMART info perhaps. "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[14:51] <ntsp> daftykins nope just that line
[14:51] <ntsp> smartmontools? not installed give me a min
[14:51] <daftykins> might need pastebinit too
[14:56] <Senpos>  Hello. Could you tell me please where can i find a page to create feature request for 15.04 Xubuntu? I've not found correct page on Xubuntu's Launchpad site.
[14:56] <ntsp> apt-get doesnt want to connect to archite.ubuntu.com -.-
[14:57] <daftykins> Senpos: #ubuntu+1 might be of more help
[14:57] <daftykins> ntsp: *archive
[14:57] <daftykins> repo typo?
[14:57] <ntsp> nope just IRC typo :p
[14:57] <dofof> Senpos: find the package and file a wishlist bug report on launchpad, e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/214809
[14:57] <daftykins> 'dig archive.ubuntu.com' work?
[14:57] <dofof> Senpos: you may want to ask in #xubuntu however
[14:57] <ntsp> today its just too slow... I downloaded the latest kernel at like 50kB/s
[14:58] <daftykins> ntsp: pick a more local mirror?
[14:59] <storay> archive.ubuntu.com is always slow, for me atleast
[14:59] <Senpos> dofof, i've done it already, but this channel is more popular
[14:59] <Senpos> Thanks for answers. Will try to.
[14:59] <daftykins> it's the main mirror, probably gets hammered by those that don't pick a local one :)
[14:59] <k1l_> storay: choose another mirror in system settings
[15:01] <ntsp> daftykins just did now stuck on security :p 100% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.24)]            40.2 kB/s 0s
[15:02] <linuxlite1983> oi
[15:02] <spacegh0st> i'm running 14.04, it's set up just the way i like, but everytime i boot up i have system errors to report...anyone know what i can do about this?
[15:03] <ntsp> spacegh0st check /var/crash
[15:03] <daftykins> spacegh0st: purge them from ^
[15:03] <dominik_> Just to say Hello to all.
[15:04] <daftykins> dominik_: such actions are best over in #ubuntu-offtopic rather than here where it's support only :)
[15:04] <spacegh0st> thanks guy, i'll give it a try
[15:05] <ntsp> Aha done
[15:05] <ntsp> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/10515965/ <-- here are the SMART data
[15:07] <daftykins> ntsp: hmm nope, SMART is disabled 0o anywho i did a little search before... though this issue seems irrelevant, the replies have some insight as to what that error means - http://askubuntu.com/questions/449232/problem-installing-14-04-in-vmplayer
[15:09] <ntsp> Also, is there a way to wake up a terminal screen from ssh?
[15:09] <daftykins> pass
[15:10] <EriC^^> ntsp, you mean go to tty1 or tty2 etc. ?
[15:10] <daftykins> sounds like waking up a physical display from an SSH Session
[15:10] <daftykins> though i can't think how that'd ever be relevant XD
[15:11] <ntsp> daftykins starting X11 on a server that sometimes its used as a media serve
[15:11] <ntsp> r
[15:11] <ntsp> it doesnt want to work if I start it with the screen off
[15:11] <daftykins> oh that weird use-case you mentioned yesterday where you have a server you manually plug HDMI into...
[15:11] <ntsp> yea
[15:11] <daftykins> yeah no idea :P
[15:12] <alivx> hello
[15:12] <daftykins> i have a dedicated HTPC for that ;)
[15:12] <hateball> Maybe you can probe using DDC or something
[15:12] <hateball> It's... perhaps possible
[15:12] <ntsp> daftykins I do too but msot of the time its running without X11 just for file sharing :p
[15:12] <daftykins> that seems unnecessary?
[15:13] <ntsp> nope, runs a samba server, and a few other things(web server to testing websites etc)
[15:13] <ntsp> for testing websites*
[15:13] <ntsp> dat grammar
[15:18] <v0lksman> what is the "ubuntu" way to set the hostname on 14.04 server?
[15:18] <OpenTokix> v0lksman: edit /etc/hostname and reboot
[15:19] <OpenTokix> v0lksman: reboot needed to get correct hostname in all logs and such.
[15:19] <EriC^^> !hostname | v0lksman
[15:19] <ntsp> OpenTokix hostname command does that
[15:19] <OpenTokix> ntsp: it will not change /etc/hostname afaik
[15:19] <Squall5668> ntsp: that's temporary
[15:20] <EriC^^> there's also /etc/hosts
[15:20] <ntsp> OpenTokix well you need to do that yourself ofc
[15:20] <OpenTokix> What idiot wrote that note in ubottu ?
[15:20] <freeroute> hi, I'm trying to install from this PPA so I can have the latest git. This is my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/git_12.10_Seveas.list - http://apaste.info/9uH. This is my /etc/apt/preferences.d/git_12.10_Seveas.pref - http://apaste.info/WHg and this is the output to 'apt-cache policy git' - http://apaste.info/WIs.
[15:20] <OpenTokix> v0lksman: I am assuming you wanted to change the hostname permanently?
[15:20] <v0lksman> yeah...kinda convoluted...but I'm already doing those steps.  thought it would be a simple command at this point
[15:20] <qengho> v0lksman: There may be hostname references elsewhere in /etc .  $ sudo find /etc -type f -exec grep $(hostname) {} /dev/null \;
[15:21] <v0lksman> naw...hosts and the hostname file are really all that is needed...
[15:21] <Seveas> ohai freeroute :)
[15:21] <qengho> That^ is before changing /etc/hostname
[15:21] <v0lksman> was just looking for something more intelligent... :)
[15:21] <freeroute> lol hi Seveas :D
[15:21] <Seveas> freeroute: what's the problem?
[15:22] <freeroute> it won't install :(
[15:22] <freeroute> despite it showing up on apt-cache policy git
[15:22] <freeroute> so I pinned it and gave it higher prio
[15:22] <Seveas> can you pastebin the output of the apt-get install command?
[15:22] <qengho> v0lksman: things like DHCP server and MTA will have hard-coded host names. You should check.
[15:22] <freeroute> sure, moment
[15:22] <Seveas> I'm guessing it's not quite as compatible with 12.04 as I had hoped :(
[15:23] <freeroute> http://apaste.info/EHU
[15:24] <freeroute> that's apt-get install git
[15:24] <freeroute> but otherwise I won't be annoying, I should have upgraded to a newer version a long time ago
[15:24] <c0d3w4rri0r> I'm sorry to say I have what I think is a really stupid question
[15:24] <Seveas> freeroute: that looks like you aborted the install
[15:25] <k1l_> freeroute: press y
[15:25] <Seveas> ah the bash-completion conflict is annoying I guess
[15:25] <freeroute> oh wait, you want the actual install? K, I'll do apt-get -y install git
[15:25] <c0d3w4rri0r> I'm trying to get ubuntu to rule book on my new macbook pro. but I can't seem to get rEFInd to work
[15:25] <OpenTokix> v0lksman: it is! sed -i 's/oldhostname/newhostname/g' /etc/host*
[15:25] <c0d3w4rri0r> run*
[15:25] <Seveas> freeroute: neh, best to just give up, this won't properly install :(
[15:26] <c0d3w4rri0r> attempting to set it up to duel boot.
[15:26] <freeroute> Seveas: lol actually it did - http://apaste.info/Yw7
[15:27] <c0d3w4rri0r> The instal script ran, and the EFI volume mounted but there was no config file
[15:27] <freeroute> weird, when I did aptitude show git it didn't show me your version
[15:27] <Seveas> freeroute: hmm, but now you lost bash-completion. Not sure if you care about that.
[15:27] <qengho> A night loses his sword and bow. Only weilding his footwear will save him. Duel boot.
[15:28] <freeroute> oh, I thought it got removed and something better got in place.
[15:28] <freeroute> qengho: lol
[15:28]  * qengho hates his eyboard.
[15:28] <Seveas> freeroute: nope. It got removed because the built-in bash completion for git in older versions of bash-completion conflicts with what git ships
[15:28] <freeroute> ah
[15:29] <freeroute> hmm
[15:29] <Seveas> so now you get to choose: fancy bash completion or newer git :)
[15:29] <Seveas> (normal file/directory completion still works)
[15:29] <Squall5668> No bash completion sounds... scary
[15:29] <freeroute> Seveas: yeah that's a tough one, I got bash-completion installed though. Could that be of some help?
[15:30] <qengho> Squall5668: it's only command-specific completion. Files and programs still match. Not "commit" after "git" though.
[15:30] <ntsp> Hardest thing you have to do while setting up a server: come up with a hostname -.-
[15:30] <Squall5668> qengho: yeah I know, but this can seriously slow you down a lot assuming you can even get used to it
[15:32] <c0d3w4rri0r> \list *ubuntu*
[15:32] <EriC^^> /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[15:34] <EriC^^> c0d3w4rri0r, you'll probably be better off using a guide to install ubuntu on your specific macbook
[15:35] <JethroTux> hello everybody
[15:36] <c0d3w4rri0r> EriC^^: yep tried that. The guide told me to edit a file that didn't exist
[15:36] <EriC^^> which file
[15:36] <EriC^^> and which guide
[15:36] <c0d3w4rri0r> refind.conf
[15:37] <c0d3w4rri0r> and this guide -> https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2014/11/ubuntu-on-a-macbookpro-82-running-yosemite/
[15:38] <JethroTux> how can I possibly set two different DE/WM (ex. LXDE and awesome) in .xinitrc willing to run xinit without any displaymanager? for istance is that possibile to set "exec startlxde" and "exec awesome" in the same file? I've read that .xinitrc would execute only the first "exec" line. I'm a little confused :S
[15:39] <k1l_> JethroTux: why not use the ubuntu way and use lightdm?
[15:39] <c0mrad3> is 15.04 a LTS ??
[15:39] <EriC^^> c0d3w4rri0r, does /Volumes/esp contain anything at all?
[15:39] <k1l_> c0mrad3: no
[15:40] <JethroTux> it's utopic
[15:40] <c0mrad3> kk
[15:40] <JethroTux> anyway I know i should change those through update.alternatives
[15:40] <k1l_> JethroTux: again: why dont you just start lightdm and choose the desktop to login there?
[15:41] <JethroTux> k1l_, i don't want to use any display manager
[15:41] <JethroTux> i log in tty and then run startx wrapper
[15:42] <dipooots> are you trying to run two displays?
[15:42] <dipooots> which is to say one on alt+f7 and one on alt+f8
[15:42] <JethroTux> dipooots, you mean two DM?
[15:42] <dipooots> naw, two 'startx' sessions
[15:43] <JethroTux> no just one
[15:43] <dipooots> if you want to cycle between you'd have to change .xinitrc each time
[15:43] <dipooots> i'd say make a script to do that for you and do startx
[15:43] <c0d3w4rri0r> Eric^^: yep BOOTLOG and EFI
[15:43] <JethroTux> it don't need to run two xinits
[15:43] <EriC^^> JethroTux, i think you'd have to set lxde to use awesome instead of openbox
[15:43] <EriC^^> not sure
[15:44] <JethroTux> rightnow lightdm executes "lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE"
[15:44] <dipooots> oh sorry i misunderstood :)
[15:44] <c0d3w4rri0r> EFI should contain a folder called refind in it. it doesnt
[15:45] <JethroTux> and i don't need to set any WM coz openbox is aready set in config file etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf
[15:45] <JethroTux> and ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu
[15:45] <lfound> does ubuntu support the mac wired mouse
[15:45] <lfound> fully
[15:45] <JethroTux> that's why the " -s Lubuntu"
[15:46] <JinBaba> Hi, how do I elevate my privilege to root on GUI (Nautilus) like I do with SU terminal command?
[15:46] <SchrodingersScat> !gksu | JinBaba
[15:46] <cfhowlett> JinBaba, gksu nautilus
[15:46] <jhutchins> lfound: It's a standard USB mouse, so yes.
[15:46] <JethroTux> EriC^^ You mean installing awesome and change it through "update-alternatives --config"?
[15:46] <JethroTux> i mean change it to default instead of openbox?
[15:46] <k1l_> JinBaba: use gksu. but mind what you do then
[15:47] <dipooots> lfound, running in live mode is a good way to test hardware
[15:47] <lfound> jhutchins: what about the scroll wheel (or scroll ball in this case)
[15:48] <c0d3w4rri0r> EriC^^: Initially I tried skipping step 6 when I couldn't find the file. the reboot showed no new boot loader just the standard mac login.
[15:48] <jhutchins> lfound: Again, it's a standard usb mouse.
[15:48] <somsip> JethroTux: just checking - you want awesomewm to start up from startx or from lighdm?
[15:48] <OerHeks> lfound, doesn't it work for you?
[15:48] <JethroTux> somsip, from startx!
[15:49] <lfound> OerHeks: i'm not totally familiar with the apple mouse but from what i can tell, no
[15:49] <EriC^^> c0d3w4rri0r, are you running yosemite?
[15:49] <c0d3w4rri0r> yes
[15:49] <somsip> JethroTux: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=184401 though I ended up installing slim (login manager) to solve some other problems that I cant remember now. Don't think it's a requirement though
[15:49] <lfound> the scroll ball doesn't seem to function
[15:49] <c0d3w4rri0r> 10.10.2
[15:49] <k1l_> JethroTux: any reason you dont want a dm?
[15:49] <dipooots> it should be okay, bearing in mind if it's an issue you can manually setup the mouse with an xorg.conf file
[15:50] <EriC^^> c0d3w4rri0r, so that is yosemite?
[15:50] <dipooots> you can probably find one already for your mouse that you just drop in place
[15:50] <JethroTux> somsip, I know ruuning "update-alternatives --config  x-window-manager" would fix anything
[15:50] <c0d3w4rri0r> yep
[15:50] <somsip> JethroTux: direct answer on ubuntu says the same sort of thing http://askubuntu.com/questions/112838/starting-awesome-wm-when-using-startx
[15:50] <EriC^^> c0d3w4rri0r, ok, it says there are special instructions for it
[15:50] <_crazzy> I've been struggling for hours with grub after installing 14.04. Boot disk is /dev/sdb, and grub tools generates a grub.cfg pointing to hd1, but it should generate config pointing to hd0, otherwise the system wont boot. Can someone please point me into the right direction to fix this?
[15:50] <somsip> JethroTux: dont see any point in that. it's an easy fix
[15:51] <JinBaba> Thanks guys! That worked. Can I use gksu in any way without typing in the terminal? If I close the terminal, Nautilus also quits.
[15:51] <c0d3w4rri0r> yeah that's why I found a guide specifically for yosemite -> https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2014/11/ubuntu-on-a-macbookpro-82-running-yosemite/
[15:51] <EriC^^> JinBaba, it's better to leave it that way so you dont go nuts with it
[15:52] <EriC^^> c0d3w4rri0r, yes but on that page it says if you're using yosemite press here and there are a million other steps
[15:52] <EriC^^> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/yosemite.html
[15:52] <JethroTux> somsip, ok that's for the WM i had already read it. But what about setting the desktop environment? For istance cinnamon or kde or gnome? how can I possibly get the two run together?
[15:53] <somsip> JethroTux: you dont
[15:53] <JinBaba> lol alright thanks all!
[15:53] <JethroTux> somsip, that's kinda strange
[15:53] <c0d3w4rri0r> Eric^^: yep read that. those are instructions for if you already had rEFInd installed under a previous OS
[15:54] <somsip> JethroTux: awesomewm does not run 'under' a DE
[15:55] <JethroTux> somsip, that's the thing. Ok now I get it :) Is it a DE itself?
[15:56] <JethroTux> or a session-manager?
[15:56] <deloric> can anyone point me in the direction on how to strip everything from a text file after a specific word such as epub? everything after that one the line I would see stripped
[15:56] <somsip> JethroTux: no, it's a window manager
[15:56] <c0d3w4rri0r> Eric^^: note step 6 and 7 of the Yosemite specific instructions still tell me to look for the refind.conf in a folder that doesn't exist
[15:57] <JethroTux> well it needs a session-manager or a DE then
[15:57] <JethroTux> you can't run standalone WM!
[15:57]  * somsip looks at monitors
[15:57] <somsip> JethroTux: I disagree
[15:57] <dipooots> JethroTux, you can, depending on how minimal you want things
[15:58] <OpenTokix> JethroTux: ofc you can
[15:58] <somsip> JethroTux: I've been on awesomewm about 4 years. Read up on it a bit. It seems like you dont really understand
[15:58] <deloric> can anyone point me in the direction on how to strip everything from a text file after a specific word such as epub? everything after that one the line I would see stripped
[15:58] <dipooots> openbox is an example of a very customizable way to do things, you can start with openbox then add on whatever else you want
[15:58] <OpenTokix> somsip: Awesome is indeed aweomse, learning curve is a bit steep
[15:59] <dipooots> startx  will invoke whatever you have set in .xinitrc bypassing the need for a session manager
[15:59] <JethroTux> i have openbox run as a WM with lxsession. I know I could use it as a session mang. too through openbox-session
[16:00] <dipooots> yeah, personally i prefer a 'full desktop'
[16:01] <OpenTokix> What is this off topic discussion about anyway?
[16:01] <_DB> how can I install windows 7 through linux? for dual booting? my laptop doesnt have a cd drive
[16:01] <_DB> so I cant use my cd
[16:01] <mateusz_> jest może ktoś z Polski?
[16:01] <ntsp> _DB do you have the iso?
[16:01] <somsip> !pl | mateusz_
[16:01] <_DB> yeah
[16:01] <k1l_> _DB: ask the windows guys how to make a windows usb to install that
[16:01] <_DB> but when I mount the iso it has exe's in it
[16:02] <ntsp> k1l_ isnt it the same thing? (just make a drive with the iso on it)
[16:02] <JethroTux> dipooots, do you mean I could only set a WM in xinitrc to run with a default DE?
[16:02] <k1l_> no, he needs to install windows. he cant run that from ubuntu
[16:03] <dipooots> JethroTux, i mean you only need the wm, linux desktops are modular
[16:03] <ntsp> k1l_ he has the iso, he can create a bootable drive from ubuntu?
[16:03] <k1l_> install in like: reboot from the iso in what ever way that supports it
[16:03] <dipooots> JethroTux, you could then set your own 'task bar' etc by adding that in .xinitrc too
[16:03] <dipooots> so startx would invoke for example openbox and tint2
[16:04] <somsip> JethroTux: This will give you better understanding of the terms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[16:05] <dipooots> JethroTux, bearing in mind openbox on it's own is very bare bones
[16:05] <dipooots> about as bare bones as it comes
[16:07] <JethroTux> dipooots, what about fluxbox? or icewm?
[16:08] <EriC^^> JethroTux, fluxbox has tabs at the bottom, it's blackbox with more options
[16:09] <JethroTux> EriC^^, btw in xinitrc either I set a DE, or if i want to "customize" with my own different WM i cant run both!
[16:09] <dipooots> JethroTux, if you install fluxbox you willl get a better idea the difference between desktop and wm
[16:10] <dipooots> fluxbox is a wm + some small stuff to make it more functional
[16:10] <somsip> JethroTux: gave you a link to do that earlier. .xinitrc will just have something like "awesomewm" or "lxce-session" and one will be commented out with a #
[16:11] <dipooots> it's worth remember the term learning curve, go ahead and try a stand alone wm (like fluxbox), no session manager needed in most cases, only way to learn really
[16:12] <somsip> JethroTux: dipooots makes a good point. If you are struggling to do this, maybe awesomewm is not for you. I'd upvote for open/flux box as a simple light wm that's different
[16:12] <JethroTux> dipooots, ok, Some WM ​contain relatively sparse desktop environment elements
[16:13] <somsip> JethroTux: ..or none
[16:13] <dipooots> yes openbox alone contains just a wm and a right click option
[16:14] <dipooots> fluxbox is right click, much menus and stuff plus a clock and task bar and 'run command' wired to alt+f2
[16:14] <lucius> Anyone using fglrx on ubuntu 14.04 trusty ?
[16:15] <JethroTux> The thing is: to have both a DE or a SM (lxde-lxsession) with a different WM, is a must to have a DM?
[16:15] <JethroTux> or I can change settings through alternatives
[16:15] <JethroTux> maybe that's the way two make them live together
[16:16] <JethroTux> dipooots, right?
[16:16] <dipooots> a certain session manager will start the desktop or wm it relates to, bearing in mind you don't need one, it's optional
[16:17] <JethroTux> right, lxsession is used by LXDE for example
[16:17] <dipooots> if you have the kitchen sink, a display managger and session manager you can switch between whatever session managers you want and they will start the relating desktops
[16:17] <EriC^^> JethroTux, this is one of those things where ... /me pushes JethroTux into the swimming pool
[16:18] <winterchillz> Guys where can I get help with the configuration of exim4 or postfix?
[16:18] <JethroTux> EriC^^ ..
[16:18] <EriC^^> JethroTux, try it out and stuff..
[16:18] <EriC^^> go for it
[16:18] <dipooots> he  means you're thinking too much, time to try indeed :)
[16:19] <JethroTux> i've read all google forum and howtos!
[16:20] <JethroTux> dipooots, can i query a min?
[16:21] <EriC^^> JethroTux, feel free to talk here it doesn't matter
[16:23] <Pantsu> winterchillz: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/
[16:23] <dipooots> yes please stay within the channel, also bear in mind this is kind of off topic to the channel too
[16:23] <JethroTux> i just don't get it. in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc it says: "Now, edit ~/.xinitrc and uncomment the line that corresponds to your DE/WM". But also: "Make sure to uncomment only one exec line, since that will be the last command run from the script"
[16:23] <winterchillz> thank you, Pantsu!!
[16:23] <JethroTux> so I can't get two working together!
[16:24] <k1l_> JethroTux: arch uses another setup with the root user account.
[16:24] <JethroTux> sorry for my english myabe i can't explain myself
[16:24] <EriC^^> JethroTux, which two? i think somsip said awesomewm can't be used with lxde it's almost a de itself or something
[16:25] <JethroTux> ok what about gnome-session and icewm together?
[16:25] <EriC^^> why are you trying to mix and match these?
[16:26] <EriC^^> JethroTux, i dont know what you've modified, but maybe sudo apt-get install icewm would work
[16:26] <EriC^^> if you just added exec icewm or whatever it uses to start in .xinitrc
[16:26] <dipooots> another example would be fluxbox, it's a stand alone wm, and lxde and xfce are full desktops comprising of different parts
[16:26] <JethroTux> dipooots, right!
[16:27] <EriC^^> JethroTux, or fluxbox
[16:27] <JethroTux> but on my lubuntu I have lxde and openbox WM runing together! Is that default lxde package?
[16:27] <EriC^^> yes
[16:27] <JethroTux> i mean, does lxde use openbox WM in deafult package?
[16:28] <EriC^^> i think so
[16:28] <Rhardian> hii
[16:28] <dipooots> openbox is a part of lxde
[16:29] <EriC^^> https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/lxde/
[16:29] <JethroTux> dipooots, only thing i can do is try different confs
[16:29] <dipooots> you could have installed openbox without the rest oof the parts if you had wanted, and started openbox
[16:29] <JethroTux> personally i think that is all fixable through alternatives!
[16:29] <dipooots> which means you don't need lxsession
[16:30] <dipooots> however lxde explicitly depends on openbox
[16:30] <EriC^^> JethroTux, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/desktop_environment#Comparison_of_desktop_environments
[16:30] <JethroTux> on lbuntu i have lxsession running together with openbox. i don't have a pure DE
[16:30] <dipooots> if you removed openbox, lxde woulld be removed by apt as welll
[16:31] <JethroTux> EriC^^, ty
[16:31] <Rhardian> I boguht a tp-link wn722n, installed the latest backport and installed the latest firmware from the tree
[16:31] <EriC^^> np
[16:31] <Rhardian> however i get  htc_9271.fw download failed
[16:31] <Rhardian> in dmesg
[16:32] <bazhang> Rhardian, is ubuntu on that
[16:32] <JethroTux> dipooots, but i should keep openbox and install fvwm and get it work with lxde!
[16:32] <Rhardian> I am running ubuntu
[16:32] <bazhang> Rhardian, on that device?
[16:32] <Rhardian> yes
[16:32] <Rhardian> ?
[16:33] <bazhang> Rhardian, thats a router?
[16:33] <Rhardian> it's a wireless network card
[16:33] <Rhardian> usb
[16:33] <Rhardian> to connect to the router
[16:33] <JethroTux> i'm making some tests, too much theory! thank you guyz :
[16:33] <bazhang> Rhardian, check the chipset via lsusb
[16:33] <JethroTux> :)
[16:34] <Rhardian> 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
[16:35] <kriskropd> does anyone know if somebody started working on a Tamagotchi replica toy/game that runs within a bash shell using ncurses gui?
[16:35] <ThePendulum> Has anyone had the issue with Chrome creating a new icon on the Unity sidebar before? I'm not certain if some other programs might do it as well.
[16:36] <ThePendulum> kriskropd: Was this an existing concept at some point or are you just wondering if it exists at all?
[16:36] <Rhardian> AR9271 bazhang
[16:37] <kriskropd> ThePendulum: just wondering - im actually thinking of making something like it and wanted to know if I'd be reinventing the wheel starting from scratch
[16:37] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, all programs do that
[16:37] <ThePendulum> kriskropd: There are some basic console animals but they're mostly primitive animations like the locomotive of 'sl', not interactive animals you can feed
[16:37] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: Most use the same icon and append a > to it
[16:37] <EriC^^> you just right click and unlock from launcher to remove them
[16:38] <EriC^^> oh you mean a new icon for each instance
[16:38] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: I mean when I am using a locked program
[16:38] <ThePendulum> it then creates yet another icon
[16:38] <ThePendulum> so I now have an 'unused' Chrome icon so to say where I put it, and an icon with the window arrows stacked below
[16:39] <ThePendulum> kriskropd: let me know if you need any help, sounds like a fun project. Might want to do some research into how much demand there is though, depending on what your intent is
[16:40] <Rhardian> bazhang I am just confused as to why it wants to download it even thoguh it's already in my firmware directory
[16:40] <ThePendulum> kriskropd: perhaps something for another channel though, if you were to elaborate on it
[16:40] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/lRkAaxO.jpg <-- to the left; as you can see, Pidgin uses its original icon for the activity pointers
[16:40] <ThePendulum> hm, brb, dinner
[16:41] <kriskropd> ThePendulum: considering it's a bit like AMOR, which seems to have died in obscurity, i doubt there would be any demand for it at all
[16:41] <kriskropd> ThePendulum: it was mostly a personal interest thing - thanks for the information :)
[16:46] <abdulhakim> if trying to set up dual boot between Windows and Linux, does Windows have to be installed first even if they're on two separate hard drives?
[16:46] <cfhowlett> abdulhakim, no it doesn't have to be first, just makes the process a lot easier if it is
[16:47] <cfhowlett> especially setting the /boot properly.  if windows 8+ you have efi requirements
[16:47] <kriskropd> abdulhakim: the reason you install windows first is because the windows install overwrites the boot information - that means you need to reinstall GRUB or whatever boot system you are using afterwards (again)
[16:47] <abdulhakim> okay so right now I've got Ubuntu installed on my SSD, but I have a separate HDD that I want to install windows on. But when I get to the installation process, windows won't let me install onto the hard drive, even though it's empty
[16:47] <abdulhakim> wim7
[16:47] <abdulhakim> win7*
[16:48] <cfhowlett> abdulhakim, best to ask ##windows I think.  doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue.
[16:49] <abdulhakim> word will do
[16:49] <ioria> abdulhakim, windows dosen't like competitors
[16:49] <abdulhakim> haha right
[16:49] <abdulhakim> ty
[16:49] <Pici> /70
[16:49] <cfhowlett> abdulhakim, OR you could maybe install windows inside a virtualbox on your ubuntu machine
[16:53] <gaconsalt> нужно на русский канал
[16:53] <phinxy> ?
[16:53] <cfhowlett> !ru | gaconsalt
[16:54] <viniz> hola alguien ha probado de instalar ubuntu touch a una tablet, pero como sistema principal, no como emulador
[16:55] <cfhowlett> !es | vindex
[16:55] <realloc1> hoi, do you know, when the mesa packages get updated in the ubuntu package sources (utopic unicorn)?
[16:55] <realloc1> There is a bug in version 10.3 which got fixed in 10.4 i think
[16:56] <rprakash> #vote +1
[16:56] <realloc1> i found the xorg edgers ppa for the latest versions, but i don't know whether it would be a good idea to use it ^^
[16:57] <ioria> cfhowlett, it's  possible  remove the ssd ,boot from cd,install  windows on hdd,put again in the ssd  with ubu    ,as master  to get a dual boot  ?
[16:58] <cfhowlett> ioria, never doen it.   BUT: before you muck with hardware, I'd go into bios and disable the ssd.  reboot and install to hdd.  then reinitialize the ssd and run update-grub.
[16:59] <ioria> cfhowlett, thanx :-)
[17:01] <froman> what sup
[17:02] <Pantsu> tomato soup
[17:02] <infektedpc> how do i kill systemd-udevd?
[17:03] <Pantsu> infektedpc: why?
[17:03] <infektedpc> 100% cpu usage when i plug in this flash drive to my computer
[17:03] <infektedpc> systemd-udevd 100%
[17:03] <Pantsu> sounds like a broken udev rule possibly
[17:03] <Pantsu> go and spy on it
[17:03] <lostatwork> that is just the NSA firmware loading
[17:03] <Pantsu> udevadm etc
[17:03] <De> guys
[17:04] <infektedpc> change   /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-8/3-8:1.0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0/block/sdc (block)
[17:05] <msg> hey all
[17:05] <infektedpc> the flash drive acts like a cdrom has some weird kingston or sandisc lock utility that opens in windows
[17:05] <msg> I have a huge file (110Gb) and I want to ftp it over from my computer to another
[17:06] <infektedpc> and you cant write to the disk unless password i just wanted to flash the damn thing
[17:06] <msg> But, the connection isn't stable enough to do this in one go
[17:06] <msg> So i need to break my file down into bits
[17:06] <msg> How would you guys do this?
[17:06] <msg> I dont need compression, just chuking it up into bits...
[17:07] <ioria> split
[17:08] <msg> just split command?
[17:08] <msg> I was going to try that next - but my file is binary...
[17:08] <msg> is that a problem?
[17:08] <msg> (also, how do i put it back together again..?)
[17:08] <ioria> don't know :-).... man split
[17:09] <OerHeks> msg, filezilla has got a continue option if the connection fails.
[17:09] <Pantsu> m1dnight_: xyproblem
[17:09] <Pantsu> er... msg^
[17:10] <dimitris> msg: you can use hjsplit
[17:10] <jgutierrez76> what up guys
[17:10] <OerHeks> infektedpc, is that USB an U3 device? there is u3-tools to remove that portable software
[17:10] <dimitris> I don't know if there is a linux version of the app but it works fine under wine
[17:11] <infektedpc> u3 device?
[17:11] <Squall5668> dimitris: no need for all that, cat can join split files just fine
[17:12] <jgutierrez76> _o=<&&&&>=vo__
[17:12] <jgutierrez76>                                      ?/$="'"  """^=<&&R$~\
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[17:12] <jgutierrez76>                                  ,/?/'       /-"^\.   .-=~\T,
[17:12] <jgutierrez76>                                ,/?/'        /\|6?`|  |<<q- ,??
[17:12] <jgutierrez76>                              ./?/'          `\??dp'  `$??,/|,i\.
[17:12] <ThePendulum> John: you might not need compression, but I think there are options to zip up a file into several files? It wouldn't hurt either, but it would solve your issue
[17:12] <ThePendulum> jhutchins: pls.
[17:12] <ThePendulum> eh, sorry, the other guy
[17:12] <infektedpc> so far udevd stays busy cant mount the flash drive nothing
[17:13] <John> ThePendulum:  yeah but it seems all these programs consume huge amounts of RAM when doing any kind of splitting/compressing
[17:13] <John> And i think just split -b 100000m will do the trick without using up all my RAM
[17:13] <infektedpc> im guessing its a U3 DEVICE SINCE WHEN YOU PLUG IT INTO WINDOWS SOFTWARE POPS UP AND SAYS ENTER PASSWORD
[17:13] <infektedpc> oops caps sorry
[17:13] <John> BUT, how the hell do i merge it back together again, heheh, i dont know
[17:13] <John> maybe cat ./* >> someEmptyFile?
[17:14] <ioria> John : you use cat to rebuild it
[17:14] <John> ioria:  oh ok great :D
[17:14] <firecat> 请问怎么进入中文
[17:14] <ThePendulum> !jp | firecat
[17:15] <ioria> John : and cmp to   check it
[17:15] <ThePendulum> I might've recognized the wrong language there, sorry if I did
[17:16] <John> Nah im pretty sure thats Japanese
[17:16] <ThePendulum> GT says Chinese
[17:16] <geirha> John: you probably rather want -b 100GB
[17:16] <ThePendulum> I don't know the command for Chinese, someone please?
[17:16] <John> ch is china
[17:16] <ace_me> where is the default php.ini in ubuntu 12 precise ?
[17:16] <John> no, wait, switzerland
[17:16] <kriskropd> !cn
[17:16] <John> yeah, cn
[17:16] <John> lol
[17:16] <ThePendulum> cheers
[17:16] <daftykins> ace_me: /etc/php...
[17:16] <ace_me> etc/php5/cli I see one
[17:16] <geirha> With emphasis on the B to get base 10 units
[17:16] <pavlos> !cn| firecat
[17:16] <John> oh yeah, 入 is chinese
[17:17] <John> I thought it was Japanese :/
[17:17] <ace_me> daftykins in etc/php/cli
[17:17] <ace_me> I have memory_limit = -1
[17:17] <ThePendulum> John: you and me both
[17:17] <daftykins> ace_me: any chance you can type in a single sentence?
[17:18] <tag> So is unity going to continue to use compiz, given it appears to not really be actively developed anylonger?
[17:18] <tag> Or is it headed somewhere else for 15.10?
[17:18] <geirha> John: Also, when putting them back together, keep in mind that it sorts the filenames alphabetically, based on your locale. Which means it might sort them in the wrong order. setting LC_COLLATE=C; first avoids that.
[17:22] <John> Thank you geirha - that is very good advice :)
[17:23] <infektedpc> thanks for the info on u3-tool fixed my problem
[17:25] <OerHeks> infektedpc, have fun!
[17:25] <infektedpc> thanx
[17:35] <dimitris> .
[17:40] <ntsp> Who is manintainning transmission on the official repos? its a *bit* outdated
[17:41] <Squall5668> ntsp: which ubuntu release are you on?
[17:41] <ntsp> Squall5668 14.04
[17:41] <ntsp> its 2 versions behind with the latest not included being a security fix(not sure if backported)
[17:42] <Squall5668> I'm willing to bet a number off my nick that it is
[17:42] <rww> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/t/transmission/transmission_2.82-1.1ubuntu3.1/changelog
[17:42] <rww> so if the security bug you mean is CVE-2014-4909 then yes, it's backported
[17:43] <k1l_> 2.84 will be in 15.04
[17:43] <Squall5668> ubottu has CVA lookup too? Nice
[17:43] <Squall5668> CVE* eh
[17:43] <bazhang> redhat bugzilla as well
[17:44] <Potato1> does anyone know how to enter a name in html so that it shows up in a sentence
[17:46] <ntsp> btw is there a rolling version of ubuntu?
[17:47] <k1l_> ntsp: no
[17:47] <ntsp> >:( I want to find a distro to use on laptops that is STABLE rolling\
[17:47] <pavlos> ntsp, 14.04
[17:47] <k1l_> stable and rolling in one sentence, wow :)
[17:47] <omgitsmit> k1l_: thats what i was thinking
[17:48] <ntsp> >:(
[17:48] <omgitsmit> ntsp: rolling = development = unstable
[17:48] <ioria> arch is rolling    release
[17:48] <daftykins> ntsp: as above, you basically asked for a paradox :)
[17:48] <ntsp> ioria arch: "it compiled! stable?"
[17:49] <ioria> ntsp :  wait...
[17:49] <ntsp> aka too bleeding edge 4 me
[17:49] <ioria> ntsp :  it's not so easy to  install ;-)
[17:49] <ioria> ntsp :  aka it's a nightmare
[17:50] <ntsp> ioria it is easy :p just format and run the isntall script... and then install a bootloader
[17:50] <ntsp> (yes, have installed it)
[17:50] <omgitsmit> try installing it without a helper script ;)
[17:50] <iggymydog> i got a ubuntu laptop converted from a dell....and it wont boot up it says no int found try passing init=bootarg
[17:51] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: you have a live cd to boot off of?
[17:52] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: no
[17:52] <ntsp> omgitsmit the wiki actually makes it easy, archlinux has the best documentation I have ever seen
[17:52] <omgitsmit> ntsp: the arch documentation is the most messed up thing ive ever followed
[17:52] <_Rocky_> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 14.04. I usually use GNOME DE. But I am trying to switch over to xmonad. I am using xmobar + trayer. I use nm-applet for network management. I would like to know if it is possible to get the sound and brightness applets running in trayer just like the nm-applet.
[17:53] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: run check disk on the drive, it may be corrupted.
[17:53]  * ntsp agrees to disagree with omgitsmit
[17:53] <_Rocky_> Thanks for your help in advance. Many google links suggest the use of the following commands which dont seem to work: gnome-power-manager, gnome-sound-applet, gnome-volume-manager etc.
[17:53] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: how do i go about that? the dam thing worked this morning
[17:53]  * omgitsmit at least doesn't use helper scripts
[17:53] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: live cd would be the best bet
[17:54] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: or bootable USB, same thing
[17:54] <_Rocky_> the gnome-sound-applet.desktop file itself has Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-sound/applet though I dont see that bin file in  /usr/bin
[17:55] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: did you just copy the .desktop file over without actually installing the software?
[17:55] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: darn i was afraid of that......tho it looks like it could be a hard ware problem prehaps like with the hard drive....yet the diagnostic didnt find anyhing
[17:55] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: Thank you for your reply, I didnt copy any desktop file. Its already just there. Since I do have a GNOME desktop also
[17:56] <pavlos> _Rocky_, there is a gnome-sound-applet file in /usr/bin
[17:56] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: At the location /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-sound-applet.desktop
[17:57] <_Rocky_> pavlos: Thank you for the reply. I am using Ubuntu 14.04. Which version do you have that in?
[17:57] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: im past the boot screen and am able to type in commands....is there a command to check the hard drive?
[17:57] <pavlos> _Rocky_, 14.04
[17:57] <st34lth> anyone familiar with evga uv plus + 39
[17:57] <st34lth> looking for it's linux drivers
[17:58] <_Rocky_> I did a ls /usr/bin | grep applet. and I get only 2 files with applet. nm-applet and system-config-printer-applet
[17:58] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: you can try to apt-get install gnome-sound
[17:58] <_Rocky_> pavlos: strange that I dont have it
[17:58] <daftykins> st34lth: what is it?
[17:58] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: Let me try that now
[17:58] <st34lth> it's a displaylink hdmi/vga/dvi to usb 3.0
[17:58] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: type in commands? you mean its working?
[17:59] <Diplomat> Hey guys, when I write cat /proc/loadavg I get 0.07 0.17 0.21 4/470 5829, I know what those first 3 numbers are, but what are 4/370 and 5829 ?
[17:59] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: Unable to locate package. And apt-cache search gnome-sound shows only one entry. gnome-sound-recorder
[17:59] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: i cant get to my desktop but it says "(initramfs) _"
[17:59] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: its probably under some other name, i wouldnt know
[17:59] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: apt-cache search gnome-sound
[17:59] <daftykins> st34lth: have you tried booting up fully from powered off with it attached, as well as just plugging it in?
[17:59] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: and its allowing me to type stuff in
[18:00] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: "it", what is "it"? grub? ubuntu?
[18:00] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit Like I said, it is only showing me gnome-sound-recorder. I find all this very strange :(
[18:01] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: im not entirely sure.....my screen is all black with white letters and no mouse curser.....sorry i cant tell you more i dont know what this is called
[18:01] <st34lth> let's try that daftykins
[18:01] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: sound is working otherwise?
[18:01] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: looks like busybox from Grub
[18:01] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: Sound is working. I am trying to get the applet so that I can control the volume.
[18:01] <iggymydog> omgitsmit:....ok? is that good or bad? ...
[18:02] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: well bad, grub was unable to boot the drive
[18:02] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: Also, I do get the applet in GNOME DE though
[18:02] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: darn it.....is there any checks i can do to be sure of this so i dont waste my time downloadeing a sick?
[18:02] <imnichol> Hi, I want to be able to get GPS data on my laptop, but I'm blanking on what the search terms are.
[18:03] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: can you run fdisk -l?
[18:03] <imnichol> Is that even possible on Ubuntu
[18:03] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: im not to familiar with that
[18:03] <omgitsmit> imnichol: do you have a GPS reciever?
[18:03] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: leeme type it in and see...i ment to type disk it was a type
[18:04] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: f disk not found
[18:04] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: there is no space, fdisk -l
[18:04] <pavlos> _Rocky_, dpkg -S gnome-sound-applet ... seems to belong to gnome-control-center
[18:05] <z0ran> does anyone have any idea why is my dmesg looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10517729/
[18:05] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: i honestly only know how to fix it from a live cd (im a noob)
[18:05] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: what do you mean theres no space? the comp only says /bin/sh: fdisk: not found
[18:05] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: you're missing root
[18:05] <_Rocky_> pavlos: "apt-get install gnome-control-center" says package is already the latest version
[18:06] <Pici> 70
[18:06] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: so i need to log into root>
[18:06] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: pavlos: maybe try running the gnome-control-center from terminal and see if there are any problems with it running?
[18:06] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: no, the root partition cannot be found by grub. which is why it cannot boot up.
[18:06] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: so how would i fix that
[18:07] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: the only way ive fixed that before was from a live cd, maybe someone else can walk you through the steps since you dont have one available.
[18:07] <dakrone> can anyone tell me how to get NetworkManager to show the gui for a forwarded X11 session? I keep getting "NetworkManager is already running"
[18:07] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: i can get one but its a pain on my slow internet to download it and go find a empty or good disk
[18:07] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: thanks for your help though.....
[18:08] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: well who installed the system in the first place? couldn't you acquire the disk from them that they used?
[18:08] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: I see a clue! Not all the options are available in xmonad when I run control center
[18:08] <omgitsmit> _Rocky_: you're on the right track :D
[18:08] <_Rocky_> I do get all the options in gnome session itself
[18:09] <_Rocky_> omgitsmit: I do remember some OnlyShowIn entries in the .desktop files
[18:09] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: i installed the system lol ironicly enough i fix computers for a liveing i just dont do much with linux
[18:09] <st34lth> daftykins, that didn't work
[18:09] <_Rocky_> should I include xmonad in there?
[18:09] <st34lth> It s just hard finding even a single driver I can install online
[18:09] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: so you're saying that one day you woke up and linux was magically installed on the syste,?
[18:09] <omgitsmit> system*
[18:09] <daftykins> st34lth: ok, well identifying the device with 'lsusb' would probably be important but i doubt you're going to have much luck with a thing like that
[18:10] <omgitsmit> "Sudden acts of Linux"
[18:10] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: no like i said i installed it on there.....4 years agao or so it WAS a ubuntu 12. something
[18:10] <rdfile> omgitsmit: if only every MS PC did this, the world would be a better place.
[18:10] <omgitsmit> +1 rdfile
[18:11] <Christer> Hi, i just created a new user that can SSH into my ubuntu server, but on a successfull login to the server, its like it doesnt allow me to do anything. Kind of like an empty path with only $ displaying and limited / no-access to commands.
[18:11] <daftykins> st34lth: that's probably because in Linux, you don't install drivers like Windows.
[18:11] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: i'm also in the same field as yourself and use ubuntu live cd's for troubleshooting almost on a weekly basis.
[18:11] <daftykins> Christer: you needed to create a /home for that user and give it bash as the default shell ideally.
[18:11] <VolUTFan> how do I back up the sudo crontab with rsync....or can I?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> iggymydog, 4yrs ago it would ubu8ntu 10 or 11 someting
[18:11] <omgitsmit> iggymydog: its a good way to determine issues with an OS when the live cd works just fine.
[18:12] <iggymydog> omgitsmit: ok ill download one
[18:12] <Reddy> Hello experts, please help me with the drivers for PCIe SSD. Installed Ubuntu on SAS drive, OS cant see PCIe SSD drives
[18:13] <iggymydog> BluesKaj: it was an estimate
[18:13] <Reddy> Hello experts, please help me with the drivers for PCIe SSD. Installed Ubuntu on SAS drive, OS cant see PCIe SSD drives
[18:14] <Reddy> Hello experts, please help me with the drivers for PCIe SSD. Installed Ubuntu on SAS drive, OS cant see PCIe SSD drives
[18:14] <daftykins> !repeat | Reddy Don't do that.
[18:14] <bazhang> Reddy, no drivers are needed for that
[18:14] <iggymydog> well imma go now ttyl guys thanks again
[18:15] <BluesKaj> iggymydog, in the console , lsb_release -a , look beside Release
[18:15] <Reddy> Sorry ubottu
[18:15] <BluesKaj> oops too late again
[18:15] <bazhang> Reddy, there is no need for drivers for that
[18:15] <Reddy> Hi Bazhang, how do I resolve the issue
[18:16] <bazhang> Reddy, what issue, drivers are not needed
[18:16] <Christer> daftykins - Thank you so much :) Completly new to setup
[18:16] <Reddy> installed 12.04 LTS on a Dell M820 blade with 1xSAS and 2xPCIe SSD drives
[18:16] <daftykins> Reddy: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:17] <VolUTFan> I found this is where the crontab tables for all of the servers are listed /var/spool/cron/crontabs , however I can't cd into the directory.  I am getting "bash: cd: crontabs/: Permission denied"  any ideas how to look in that directory
[18:18] <VolUTFan> nm, I figured it out
[18:20] <VolUTFan> wow, interesting...  the crontab file for root, in the /var/spool/cron/crontabs is different than the entries listed in sudo crontab -e or -l....  any ideas as to why?
[18:20] <VolUTFan> its got some of the entries in there, but its still missing current entries
[18:20] <omgitsmit> VolUTFan: user cron would be different than roots
[18:21] <VolUTFan> omgitsmit, I don't have a user cron in that directory...
[18:21] <VolUTFan> I have my user and the root
[18:22] <omgitsmit> you just said you dont have the user cron, then you said you have two users crons.
[18:22] <VolUTFan> either way, the root crontab, where I have been making entries, using sudo crontab -e, is different than the crontab file for root in the /var/spool/cron/crontabs directory
[18:22] <LordDeath> does ubuntu 14.04 with installed KDE still have a "/etc/init.d/kdm"?
[18:22] <omgitsmit> VolUTFan: yes, each user has their own seperate cron
[18:22] <VolUTFan> no, I didn't say anything about a user named cron
[18:22] <omgitsmit> <    VolUTFan>| I have my user and the root
[18:23] <VolUTFan> right... so why is the file in that directory for root...  differerent than what I see when I hit the terminal and type sudo crontab -e
[18:24] <VolUTFan> im just simply trying to understand.  I am confused lol.  I think it was either rberg, lordievader or BluesKaj that suggested I throw these in the root crontab since it required sudo rights for my commands.
[18:27] <ZeroBeholder> hello, anyone else have ssh go out after the kernel update or is it just me?
[18:27] <ZeroBeholder> Also, all of a sudden my freenode connection blows up & resets...
[18:27] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, it wasn't me, never used a cronjob, just a simple home user here
[18:27] <VolUTFan> hahahahaha, I figured it out.  Although I saved the file in nano, I didn't close the file with Ctrl-X so...  it didn't right its temp file back to the actual file
[18:28] <VolUTFan> Blues... my main man...  how are you doing today?  I couldn't remember.  its usually one of us few that does most of the talkin
[18:29] <daftykins> !ot | VolUTFan
[18:29] <VolUTFan> I had a perverbial brain fart with the writing of the file
[18:29]  * BluesKaj prefers #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:30] <ZeroBeholder> Well, I'll have to guess it is just me with the most recent kernel update-- my ssh woes may be completely unrelated, but it is the only thing I did since it worked last this morning.
[18:30] <ZeroBeholder> BluesKaj: #kubuntu!
[18:31] <ZeroBeholder> the emphasis added probably breaks the link...
[18:32] <TeamTeslaNL> i have a small question does anyone has some experience with streaming to USTREAM with for example a raspberry running Linux
[18:33] <VolUTFan> using rsync can you specify to backup multiple folders, instead of just 1 directory, to a final destination folder?
[18:34] <crst> Hi, can anybody recommend me a routine (command line welcome) for changing the date of many files. The date is contained as a string in each filename in the following format [2009-04-09_T14-22-38]. Any quick suggestions?
[18:34] <rww> yes, just list multiple sources one after another, with the destination container folder at the end
[18:34] <bekks> VolUTFan: Yes.
[18:35] <VolUTFan> ok, so that syntax would be ok...  it would be just like saying I want to mv -R dir1 dir2 dir3 /home/user/backupfolder...
[18:35] <EriC^^> crst, i think touch can do that
[18:36] <KaiForce> anyone familiar with syslinux/isolinux?
[18:36] <crst> EriC^^: Cool, I'll take a look at it. Thank you for your tip
[18:36] <EriC^^> np, you can use find if you want to do it recursively
[18:38] <Pantsu> VolUTFan: I suggest that you read the manual
[18:38] <bazhang> KaiForce, for a bootable usb stick?
[18:38] <TeamTeslaNL> ?
[18:39] <KaiForce> bazhang: I'm actually using it for Leaf Bering uclibc, but yes it is used for bootable USBs also...
[18:39] <bazhang> KaiForce, pendrivelinux.com is a great resource for that
[18:40] <KaiForce> the Leaf developers have the boot files in a /syslinux directory, but I'm not sure how to get them to boot there.  I can move them to the root of the drive and they'll boot fine.
[18:40] <KaiForce> thanks bazhang i I will look there.
[18:43] <spacegh0st> hey, when my 14.04 goes to sleep i wake it up to a crash error for xorg, anyone have a solution for this?
[18:44] <EriC^^> spacegh0st, report the error if you want
[18:44] <donniezazen> Oracle VirtualBox's repos are impossibly slow.
[18:44] <EriC^^> and you could try disabling apport error logging if it keeps appearing
[18:44] <spacegh0st> i report all my errors =/ i jsut don't want them
[18:45] <EriC^^> spacegh0st, you can try disabling apport
[18:45] <spacegh0st> ok, thanks EriC^^
[18:45] <EriC^^> or look into the error and if there's a fix on launchpad or somewhere
[18:45] <Guest11288> русскоязычные есть?
[18:46] <bazhang> !ru | Guest11288
[18:47] <Mandeep_Singh> hey guys, when I put my 14.04 into sleep mode and sometimes it doesn't wake up and just restarts the system. Reported error many times. My some friends also faced that problem.
[18:48] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, are you using fglrx or fglrx-updates?
[18:49] <_jomo> About half a year ago I decided to finally run dist-upgrade (12 to 14). At some point my x session crashed. I just went to console 1 and waited. After some time it still told me to run dist-upgrade, so I did it again. When that was done I had to reboot and suddenly I'm "running in low graphics mode" and pretty much all of the `apt-get` commands failed because sub-command dpkt returned an error or because too many errors occured (looks lik
[18:49] <EriC^^> _jomo, you're supposed to use sudo do-release-upgrade to upgrade to a newer release
[18:50] <bazhang> _jomo, dist-upgrade will NOT change versions
[18:50] <_jomo> I think that was the command I used, was half a year ago sorry
[18:50] <EriC^^> ok
[18:51] <_jomo> /etc/issue Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[18:51] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, I searched about fglrx. I think it's for amd catalyst or related. I am using HP notebook intel i3 integrated intel graphics card only.
[18:51] <Mandeep_Singh> Please correct and suggest me.
[18:51] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, that's true
[18:52] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, i've no idea, sometimes coming from sleep issues are related to graphics drivers
[18:52] <EriC^^> i get a similar issue using fglrx-updates
[18:52] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, I see.
[18:53] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, I don't think there is need for graphics drivers for the integrated intel ones.
[18:54] <EriC^^> yeah i dont think so
[18:54] <EriC^^> _jomo, so what's the problem?
[18:55] <_jomo> EriC^^: apt-get upgrade tells me about "134 not fully installed or removed" and then drowns in "dependency problems" and finally exists with "Processing was halted because there were too many errors"
[18:55] <_jomo> and when I boot I can only run in "low graphics mode" for some reason
[18:56] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, does /var/log/syslog mention anything?
[18:56] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, or /var/log/kern.log maybe?
[18:57] <EriC^^> _jomo, ok, run sudo apt-get -f install
[18:57] <EriC^^> and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin the output
[18:57] <EriC^^> run sudo apt-get update first then -f install
[19:00] <_jomo> EriC^^: http://hastebin.com/wipakosiyo
[19:02] <_jomo> EriC^^: this is what I see after boot: http://i.stack.imgur.com/AiwJH.png
[19:02] <oslo2015> Anyone know why Ubuntu Mate isn't updated to 14.04.2?
[19:03] <EriC^^> _jomo, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall tex-common
[19:03] <daftykins> oslo2015: you mean, their downloads?
[19:03] <oslo2015> Yes daftykins
[19:03] <daftykins> oslo2015: probably haven't respun media. there's no point waiting for one, just install .0 or .1 then dist-upgrade. simple.
[19:03] <EriC^^> oslo2015, do you have the trusty-updates repo enabled?
[19:03] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[19:04] <daftykins> oslo2015: the greatest truth never told is the version # is just a text file :P
[19:04] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, Can't figure out what is going on in both /var/log/kern.log and syslog. But this line is repeating:     Mar  4 00:29:18 hp kernel: [11300.902017] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2 failed to flush
[19:04] <_jomo> EriC^^: E: Internal Error, No file name for tex-common:amd64
[19:04] <oslo2015> daftykins, what do you mean my dist-update? sudo apt-get update?
[19:05] <daftykins> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:05] <daftykins> (doesn't mean to change version, it just gets the latest packages for everything)
[19:05] <oslo2015> daftykins, thanks
[19:05] <Mandeep_Singh> _jomo, do have a amd one?
[19:05] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, are you using the latest kernel?
[19:07] <_jomo> Mandeep_Singh: my CPU is AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor, if that's what you mean. I'll just try purging tex-common. Never used latex anyway :P
[19:07] <oslo2015> Would Ubuntu Mate or regular Ubuntu (Unity) be perferrable on an old computer?
[19:07] <daftykins> oslo2015: mate, lubuntu or xubuntu.
[19:07] <daftykins> definitely not unity
[19:08] <oslo2015> So, Mate is more lightweight than Unity?
[19:08]  * _jomo would chose mate because it tastes good
[19:09] <daftykins> yes...
[19:09] <oslo2015> thanks daftykins
[19:09] <Mandeep_Singh> _jomo, yes i meant that and the graphics card too. Have you installed graphics drivers? Many get problems due to that.
[19:09] <pavlos> oslo2015, ubuntu mate seems to be like gnome 2 (classic)
[19:10] <_jomo> Mandeep_Singh: well I was definitely working before the release upgrade
[19:10] <oslo2015> pavlos, design-wise yes
[19:10] <_jomo> The graphics card is AMD as well IIRC, will double check
[19:12] <Bashing-om> _jomo: graphics card; terminal command -> lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 <- .
[19:12] <_jomo> EriC^^: seems like purgin tex removed all the apt-get / dpkg issues so far.
[19:13] <EriC^^> _jomo, great
[19:13] <_jomo> Mandeep_Singh, Bashing-om it's an AMD/ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5430 (cheapest thing out there but used to work)
[19:13] <_jomo> EriC^^: thanks for the help so far
[19:13] <Mandeep_Singh> _jomo, try installing again the graphics drivers ( may solve)
[19:13] <EriC^^> _jomo, open the dash and type drivers and check if there's any drivers you can install
[19:15] <Bashing-om> _jomo: Naw, mine is cheaper "  VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV515 [Radeon X1300/X1550] " .
[19:15] <Mandeep_Singh> One more thing I want to ask that the bluetooth is not working in my 14.04. Tried many times, it turns on and when I click on 'setup new device' it shows error 'no adapter found'.
[19:16] <hamza> selam
[19:16] <Mandeep_Singh> Though it works on window$
[19:17] <_jomo> EriC^^: https://i.imgur.com/36m2714.png (clicked on the bottom one by accident when I took the screenshot) I guess "recommended" is the open source one?
[19:17] <_jomo> "Revert" switches back to the open source driver
[19:18] <emsy2015> k1l_: hello, arghh, I gave up yesterday. We did everything right, at least it seemed like that because we didn't have any errors, but rebooting didn't help.
[19:19] <EriC^^> _jomo, yeah the first one is the open source one
[19:19] <EriC^^> _jomo, you could try fglrx or fglrx-updates if you want
[19:19] <oslo2015> will battery savings be noticeable if I disable bluetooth?
[19:19] <oslo2015> in any ubuntu version
[19:20] <ThePendulum> Is it possible to automatically execute a command whenever a given terminal command can not be found?
[19:20] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, yeah
[19:20] <_jomo> EriC^^: Ah well I'll just try turning it off an on again, Moss said that should work :D If it doesn't, I can still try the proprietary ones
[19:20] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, which kernel version is recommended for 14.04?
[19:20] <Sbur> Any program out there to (if possible, automatically) "cut up" an album into the various songs in it? (make, for example, 20 seperate songs rather than a one lump song containing an entire album?
[19:20] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: Could you give me a hint in the right direction? :P
[19:20] <daftykins> Sbur: why not just rip it from the CD properly? 0o
[19:21] <emsy2015> k1l_: Missing modules. /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist
[19:21] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, well if you type set | grep command
[19:21] <compdoc> http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-Finds-and-Corrects-Old-Compiz-Bug-that-Caused-Windows-to-Go-Black-in-Ubuntu-474723.shtml
[19:21] <EriC^^> i think that's what runs when a command isnt found
[19:21] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: this is the first time I got a hint that's complete enough to work with yet not so complete it solves the issue entirely, love it :D
[19:22] <oslo2015> will battery savings be noticeable if I disable bluetooth?
[19:22] <EriC^^> hehe
[19:22] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, my one is 3.13.0-24-generic
[19:22] <EriC^^> :D
[19:22] <ThePendulum> now to find out where this 'set' thing lives
[19:22] <qengho> oslo2015: use "powertop" to measure.
[19:22] <oslo2015> qengho, great idea, thanks
[19:22] <Sbur> daftykins: What I mean is ... I downloaded an album, thinking that it was like an RAR archive and that I'd be able to just extract seperate titles.  It wasn't that way.  Any cdrip program wil "feel" the pauses in the songs and seperate them?
[19:23] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, that's pretty old i think
[19:23] <qengho> oslo2015: besides, it's silly to ask. Hardware varies. Mine is not yours.
[19:23] <daftykins> Sbur: sorry, sounds unlawfully obtained.
[19:23] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, which ubuntu version are you using?
[19:23] <Mandeep_Singh> 14.04
[19:23] <oslo2015> qengho, gotcha
[19:23] <Sbur> daftykins: Never mind
[19:24] <emsy2015> Guys, anyone? Black screen, Missing modules (cat /proc/modules;ls /dev)
[19:24] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, yes, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:24] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, is 14.10 stable enough?
[19:24] <emsy2015> ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist
[19:25] <EriC^^> Mandeep_Singh, that will only upgrade the packages, it will stay 14.04
[19:26] <Bashing-om> Mandeep_Singh: EriC^^ :: real old kernel, makes one wonder what is going on in /boot . Maybe look ? -> ls -al / , ls -al /boot <- symlinks broke, no disk space ?
[19:27] <emsy2015> Black screen, Missing modules (cat /proc/modules;ls /dev) /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist
[19:28] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: Chroot in from a LiveCD/USB and update your initramfs.
[19:28] <EriC^^> Bashing-om, he probably never dist-upgraded ever, i think that's the first kernel 14.04 came out with
[19:28] <EriC^^> no idea how that space came btw
[19:28] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Agreed it is it is .. to the best of my poor memory .
[19:28] <Mandeep_Singh> EriC^^, true that
[19:29] <ChristW_> I have a problem with Desktop Zoom in accessibility. I have a movie showing the problem,. When I click in the menu area, the mouse cursor jumps to the far left and I can’t reach my menu. Here’s a video showing the problem: http://dna.ik.nu/rinske/Output.mp4
[19:29] <emsy2015> Jordan_U:how to update them?
[19:31] <ntsp> my external disk drive never goes to sleep even when its idle(ubuntu server) any ideas?
[19:32] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: update-initramfs -c -k all
[19:32] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: thank you, will try that
[19:32] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: Do you know how to prepare a proper chroot, including bind mounting of /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/?
[19:32] <Farsus> test
[19:33] <ThePendulum> hmmm, if I wish to run a command whenever a command cannot be found, can I not simply add if [ -x /usr/lib/command-not-found ]; to ~/.bashrc?
[19:33] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: well actually yes, because I' ve been doing this for 3 days now. All my kernels were accidentally removed so I booted from live cd. Even now I' m booted from live cd
[19:34] <_jomo> EriC^^: Restart didn't help, here's the Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10518611/
[19:34] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: I tried to fix it after the thread on ubuntu forums and after rebooting I got this initframs error
[19:35] <Jordan_U> ThePendulum: Just checking for the existance of /usr/lib/command-not-found isn't going to accomplish anything in and of itself. What do you plan to do if /usr/lib/command-not-found exists and is executable?
[19:35] <ThePendulum> Jordan_U: Yeah, I just realized I'm an idiot; it's not at all what I'm looking for :P
[19:36] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, you could add the command you want to run after the printf part
[19:36] <Farsus> Does Ubuntu offer paid user support? (For individual users rather than big business.)
[19:36] <sankarsana> q
[19:36] <sankarsana> quit
[19:36] <Farsus> sankarsana: /quit
[19:37]  * ThePendulum imagines sankarsana yelling at his screen to turn off
[19:37] <Farsus> hahah
[19:37] <Mandeep_Singh> :D
[19:37] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: I've found this is /etc/bash.bashrc (or something named similarly)
[19:37] <ThePendulum> I tried adding something simple but failed, perhaps I should try an actual reboot
[19:38] <Farsus> I can't find pricing info for paid user support on Ubuntu website.
[19:38] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, what builds the set
[19:38] <Farsus> Is it affordable?
[19:38] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: I'm not sure how to find out if that's indeed what the set result came from
[19:38] <spv>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[19:38] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, it looks like it
[19:39] <EriC^^> did you add a command to it?
[19:39] <logansrun> hi
[19:39] <ThePendulum> I did; I might've failed to reload it properly though
[19:39] <EriC^^> try to do sudo login <user> in a terminal
[19:39] <ThePendulum> or it's not doing what I'm expecting it to do
[19:39] <Farsus> RedHat user support is apparently only for very wealthy users. Would Ubuntu be similar?
[19:39] <ThePendulum> hmyeah
[19:39] <EriC^^> and check set | grep -A10 command_not
[19:40] <rww> Farsus: Ubuntu does not offer paid user support.
[19:40] <Farsus> rww :(
[19:40] <rww> Canonical offers paid business support, but it sounds like you don't want that, so yeah.
[19:40] <Farsus> rww: I see.
[19:40] <ThePendulum> rww: huh, I thought that was their primary business model
[19:40] <ThePendulum> oh
[19:40] <ThePendulum> in that boat, sorry, yeah :p
[19:40] <rww> Other third-party companies presumably do too. #ubuntu doesn't have any insight into their or Canonical's support programs.
[19:41] <Farsus> rww: I need an equivalent of Windows hotline, but with a libre OS. Any OS.
[19:41] <rww> I don't know of one. ##linux may be more useful for general Linux questions.
[19:41] <Farsus> *any libre OS
[19:41] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: after trying to update initramfs
[19:41] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10518696/
[19:42] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: I must have some fundamental misunderstanding; http://pastie.org/private/dwkxvnvgojrtaoh3c0rig
[19:42] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: The above is the output of set grep
[19:42] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: Do you have an encrypted root filesystem?
[19:43] <Farsus> rww: (1) ##Linux is not hotline. They are volunteeers, aren't they? Under no duty to help me. (2) Voice is switched off for unregistered Freenode users (such as me) in ##Linux. I'm not going to create an e-mail to be able to talk on IRC.
[19:43] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: maybe, I' m not sure
[19:43] <rww> Farsus: re: (1): I meant they may know of some place that does Linux support
[19:43] <rww> since as I said, we don't (and we just do Ubuntu specific support anyway)
[19:43] <Farsus> rww: Ok.
[19:44] <daftykins> Farsus: with my respect, you won't get far with open source software if you're unwilling to even create a free account to get it.
[19:45] <Farsus> daftykins: I don't need "free as free beer", I need "free as freedom".
[19:45] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: it shouldn' t been because I did this to get into it: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 ubuntu_root
[19:46] <_jomo> most open source software is both though, not sure why everyone keeps omitting that fact
[19:46] <ThePendulum> EriC^^: I got it now by moving it out of that if clause; I think that case just never happes and command-not-found is executed instead
[19:47] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, oh ok
[19:47] <EriC^^> cool
[19:47] <ThePendulum> alright, now my computer tells me "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave" whenever I enter the wrong command. Truly an engineering marvel.
[19:47] <ThePendulum> (it actually speaks it) oh well, it was fun; thanks EriC^^!
[19:48] <daftykins> Farsus: i don't see how that has any relevance to what i said :)
[19:48] <Farsus> daftykins: ...and having to let yourself track by ##linux ops is contrary to that kind of freedom. not to mention burdensome.
[19:48] <Farsus> *to let ##linux ops track you
[19:48] <EriC^^> ThePendulum, haha :D no problem
[19:48] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: The answer is "yes" then. Just because you've unlocked it at the moment doesn't make it not encrypted. Are you trying to convert from unencrypted to encrypted, or did you install to LUKS from the Ubuntu installer?
[19:49] <daftykins> Farsus: this sounds like far too paranoid approaches to just getting help on a chat network, i'd like no further part in this discussion, goodbye
[19:49] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: I didn' t install LUKS
[19:50] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: So you're trying to convert from unencrypted to encrypted, correct?
[19:50] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: I tried to get into it, yeah
[19:50] <dcope> hey all, how is it possible for my machine to have no tmp directory?
[19:51] <MrSunshine> is it possible to "restore" to original linux mint packages everything if ive been installing stuff from ppa:s and dont know what has been installed but it borked my system some ?
[19:51] <MrSunshine> oh sorry .. mint but same base so should apply :P
[19:52] <bekks> !mint | MrSunshine
[19:52] <_jomo> EriC^^: Just noticed that ther's no xorg.conf, just an xorg.conf-backup from around the time I upgraded. I copied that file to xorg.conf. Do you know how to (properly) restart the x server without rebooting?
[19:53] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: just tried to recover my system with http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[19:54] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: couldn' t do without luks open
[19:54] <EriC^^> _jomo, you could type sudo service lightdm restart
[19:54] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: You aren't answering the question I actually asked.
[19:54] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: The answer is yes!
[19:55] <Farsus> So I may choose Ubuntu rather than CentOS or other big distro... simply because this channel is NOT like:
[19:55] <Farsus> "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[19:55] <Farsus> :)
[19:55] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: OK, what guide are you following to do so? I ask because you've clearly not setup your /etc/cryptab correctly.
[19:56] <hillbicks> hey guys, where is the right place to ask questions about ubuntu touch? I didn't see a specific place on the ubuntu forums and the xda subsection is relatively quiet. any suggestions?
[19:56] <EriC^^> #ubuntu-touch
[19:56] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: just followed step by step from some guy in this chat
[19:57] <EriC^^> hillbicks, is your nickname related to bill hicks?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: It may be simpler to just re-install and configure encryption at install time.
[19:57] <hillbicks> well, I'll be damned :P thanks EriC^^
[19:57] <EriC^^> no problem :D
[19:57] <hillbicks> yeah, it's a word play on his name :)
[19:57] <EriC^^> i see :)
[19:57] <Paddy_NI> I don't see it
[19:57] <Paddy_NI> Could you explain it for me
[19:57] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: isn' t there any risk losing all the files on hdd ?
[19:58] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: You'll need to back them up first.
[19:58] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: here' s the chat history if you're interested, starting from 17:32
[19:58] <emsy2015> Jordan_U:http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/01/%23ubuntu.html
[19:59] <Farsus> hillbicks: Good question! I have a related question myself: can I install Ubuntu Touch on any Intel-based device with touch screen? Examples: Lenovo Yoga Tablet Pro 2, Microsoft Surface (sic!).
[19:59] <KXStudio_Ptobs> hello can someone help me with my installation of kxstudio. It won't connect to any wireless networks even though I put in the correct password
[19:59] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: I don' t have a place to back up them
[19:59] <emsy2015> k1l_: are you here?
[19:59] <rypervenche> Farsus: Uhhhh....that's not necessarily a good/bad thing. Being registered on freenode helps keep out the spammers.
[20:00] <Farsus> rypervenche: hmm.
[20:00] <hillbicks> Farsus: I think you need an android port as basis to get ubuntu touch running on your device.
[20:00] <emsy2015> TheNumb: are you here? :)
[20:00] <OerHeks> emsy2015, if you have no backup space, your data is not important to you.
[20:01] <emsy2015> OerHeks: kinda true to be honest
[20:01] <Farsus> hillbicks: Damn... I dislike Android. I'm trying to avoid it. The good thing about it might be that one line of Yoga tablets runs on Android. (While another one runs on Windows.)
[20:01] <ChristW_> I  have a problem with Desktop Zoom in accessibility. I have a movie showing the problem,. When I click in the menu area, the mouse cursor jumps to the far left and I can’t reach my menu. Here’s a video showing the problem: http://dna.ik.nu/rinske/Output.mp4
[20:02] <emsy2015> OerHeks: you just made a really good point. I don' t have any important files there, maybe I just should re-install the system
[20:02] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: Even then you were only talking about having deleted /boot/, but your problem is that you have improperly converted from an unencrypted installation to an encrypted one. How did you try to convert from a system that was not using LUKS to one that now is?
[20:04] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: I guess it was using crypto_LUKS because I had an error when I tried to mount. mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[20:04] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: so I did sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 ubuntu_root
[20:05] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: OK. I'm going to ask this question again. Did you configure encryption while you were initially installing Ubuntu? If you're not sure, then say you're not sure.
[20:05] <KXStudio_Ptobs> can someone help ubuntu kxstudio won't connect to wifi networks
[20:07] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: I' m not sure, I' d rather say no. Let me explain, I' m newbie to ubuntu as you could already see. I had my kernels removed accidentally by my brother. So I installed an ubuntu iso file on cd and booted from it, pressed Try ubuntu and tried to recover it by link I' ve sent you
[20:07] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: sorry for my bad english
[20:08] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: OK. It appears that even if you didn't intend to, you did configure your root filesystem to be encrypted when you initially installed Ubuntu. I would not recommend this for new users.
[20:08] <HyP3r> I'm trying to set a custom resultion permantly
[20:08] <HyP3r> Can someone help me? I don't know how to do this
[20:08] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: Please pastebin the /etc/crypttab from your installed system.
[20:09] <EriC^^> HyP3r, you can add the xrandr commands in ~/.profile in an if statement
[20:10] <EriC^^> if [ $DISPLAY ]; then <xrandr commands>; fi
[20:10] <sha1sum> Hey all... Setting up a new laptop and I've got the Nvidia drivers installed, however the nvidia-settings tool only recognizes my external display and not the built-in one (the displays are extending and I don't want that)
[20:10] <HyP3r> EriC^^: I did http://askubuntu.com/a/226384
[20:11] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: permission denied, should I go as a root?
[20:11] <jschall> network-manager isn't prompting me for a wifi password - i can enter one by going into "edit connections" and it works, but it can't prompt me. do i have a problem with gnome-keyring or something? ubuntu 14.10
[20:11] <sha1sum> I'm not exactly sure what the second step is to troubleshooting this (I've attempted the first step, which is googling)
[20:11] <HyP3r> And it's working well
[20:12] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: What is the exact command you used to try to read or pastebin the installed system's /etc/crypttab ?
[20:12] <EriC^^> HyP3r, ok, the last command would be xrandr --output <output> --mode <your mode>
[20:12] <EriC^^> ( i think )
[20:12] <HyP3r> But then I created this .xprofile http://pastebin.com/kMXRuMnB
[20:13] <HyP3r> But it doenst work
[20:13] <EriC^^> HyP3r, i think ubuntu doesn't use .xprofile
[20:13] <EriC^^> you can add those in .profile in an if statement if you want, that's what i'd do
[20:14] <EriC^^> not sure if there's a better way
[20:14] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: oh, I' m sorry, haha, I' m so dumb. I just pasted the directory into terminal. Anyway, what command should I use?
[20:14] <HyP3r> After logon I have a short time full hd (1920) but after a while its resets to 1024
[20:14] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: pastebinit /mountpoint/etc/crypttab
[20:15] <HyP3r> I don#t know why :(
[20:15] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: Where /mountpoint/ is the directory that you mounted ubuntu_root to.
[20:15] <HyP3r> EriC^^: I think I should do something like http://askubuntu.com/a/187430
[20:15] <HyP3r> But I dont know what I shold place in the brackets <>
[20:16] <HyP3r> Can some help me with this weird thing?
[20:17] <_jomo> EriC^^: I purged and installed gdm again, seems like that fixed the "low graphics mode" error :]
[20:18] <emsy2015> Jordan_U: there' s no such file or directory
[20:18] <EriC^^> _jomo, cool :)
[20:18] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: pastebinit /proc/mounts
[20:19] <HyP3r> No one :(
[20:20] <emsy2015> jordan_u:same
[20:21] <EriC^^> HyP3r, modeline is what you get from the cvt command, device name is the output name i think, and modename is an arbitrary name you choose ( i think )
[20:21] <HyP3r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding_undetected_resolutions also helps until restart and I need something which fixes that all
[20:21] <HyP3r> EriC^^: how to get the device name?
[20:21] <EriC^^> HyP3r, xrandr -q
[20:21] <EriC^^> it's what you used with --output earlier
[20:21] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: What is the exact and complete output of "pastebinit /proc/mounts"?
[20:22] <HyP3r> Yep but what should I use?
[20:22] <HyP3r> VGA1 ?
[20:22] <EriC^^> if that's the device yeah
[20:22] <emsy2015> bash: /proc/mounts: Permission denied
[20:22] <emsy2015> Jordan_U
[20:23] <Jordan_U> emsy2015: That is *not* the output of "pastebinit /proc/mounts". Please run exactly the command I gave, with no modifications.
[20:23] <setuid> Where might the LXD folks be hanging out?
[20:24] <HyP3r> EriC^^: like that ?  http://pastebin.com/dbHSyXD8
[20:24] <setuid> woop, on a whim, n/m, found them in #ubuntu-cloud
[20:25] <oslo2015> how can i see current ubuntu version in terminal?
[20:25] <EriC^^> HyP3r, drop the "1920x1080_60.00" in the modeline
[20:26] <EriC^^> oslo2015, lsb_release -d
[20:26] <HyP3r> EriC^^: can you create this I really don't get it
[20:26] <oslo2015> thanks, <EriC^^>
[20:27] <EriC^^> HyP3r, don't put the 1920... in the modeline, just the numbers that follow
[20:28] <HyP3r> EriC^^: and what should I do if I want to add the other resolution 1280x720 ?
[20:28] <sam_> hello world!
[20:29] <EriC^^> HyP3r, i've no experience with xorg.conf sorry
[20:30] <HyP3r> Someone  else?
[20:31] <sam_> hey i would help you if i could
[20:31] <sam_> sorry
[20:31] <sam_> i am glad to even be having this conversation (monologue?)
[20:31] <sam_> i.e. network is working
[20:32] <sam_> sitting here experimenting with an old pentium 3 machine
[20:32] <sam_> remember those folks?
[20:33] <sam_> no lols coming my way yet?
[20:33] <ChristW_> I remember those. I even remeber 8086...
[20:33] <ChristW_> (I’m probably dating myself now…)
[20:34] <sam_> lol :)
[20:34] <sam_> made me laugh
[20:34] <sam_> thx!
[20:35] <ChristW_> My three favorite bytes are: EB 03 C3
[20:36] <Farsus> I remember when computers were made from paper.
[20:36] <genii> sam_: If you have a support question relating to your Ubuntu, this is the place to ask it... if you just want to basically chat then #ubuntu-offtopic is a better channel for that
[20:38] <sam_> Farsus: oh you were lucky... in the old days, i would even be happy to have piece of paper... and a pencil!
[20:38] <sam_> genii: ok
[20:38] <Farsus> :)
[20:39] <sam_> i would love to chat, but i have to go now
[20:39] <Farsus> sleep well, sam_
[20:39] <sam_> keep the old junk humming! ;)
[20:39] <Farsus> :)
[20:39] <sam_> bye!
[20:40] <Farsus> bahnhof.se!
[20:40] <Farsus> he lives in the nuclear bunker!
[20:42] <bekks> Nucular... It's pronounced Nucular :P
[21:08] <Boywow> hey smart people... what is dejavu ?
[21:08] <janot> Hi, everybody. I have a problem with very long/endless logout/restart in Ubuntu. This happens not every time, but maybe every 1 of 4 logouts/restarts...Should I file a bug report or ask at Askubuntu?
[21:08] <k1l_> Boywow: you mean the font?
[21:09] <Boywow> I mean the real meaning of deja vu.. not connected with ubuntu. By I know here you are people type ,,neo from matrix''
[21:09] <Boywow> that's why I ask here
[21:10] <k1l_> !ot | Boywow
[21:11] <OerHeks> Boywow, it is a font, in ubuntu. other meanings you can find on the interwebs
[21:14] <apb1963> Why is that:  find . -iname "medi*pdf" fails to find a file I know exists and matches?
[21:15] <apb1963> ubuntu 14.04
[21:16] <ntsp> apb1963 try find -iname medi\*pdf
[21:17] <apb1963> ntsp: still doesn't find it
[21:17] <Patero-angie> I have 10.04 on a pc that has its motherboard damaged
[21:18] <dreamcat5> hi. how can i set these options below vv to persist across reboots ?
[21:18] <dreamcat5>     sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra=2
[21:18] <dreamcat5>     sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1
[21:18] <kahtahs> apb1963: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[21:19] <ntsp> dreamcat5 /etc/sysctl.conf
[21:19] <ntsp> add the settings there
[21:19] <dreamcat5> thanks ntsp
[21:20] <Patero-angie> exactly
[21:20] <Patero-angie> I didn't know dreamcat was a command to edit files
[21:21] <ntsp> Patero-angie 10.04 is ancient :)
[21:21] <Patero-angie> is still the best to me and it runs smoothie on my athlon xp
[21:21] <dreamcat5> Patero-angie: i shall make a new program then, and call it 'dreamcat'. it shall do all the things.
[21:22] <Patero-angie> dreamcat5: magnificu
[21:22] <ntsp> Patero-angie 10.04 has passed the EOL on May 2013, that means no security fixes
[21:22] <apb1963> kahtahs: ok, they use single quotes instead of double quotes.  That finds it, as long as I'm not in my home director and am one directory down.  Once found with single quotes, then it will find it with double quotes.  Bizarre.  Broken.
[21:23] <dreamcat5> when people type the command 'dreamcat' it send the program arguments over TCP connecion to my computer. then wakes me up. and i type what it should be, and it goes back to their computer the result.
[21:23] <apb1963> kahtahs: and thank you.
[21:23] <ntsp> dreamcat5 slowest text editor in the world :p
[21:24] <cyanogen_pwnz> hello
[21:24] <ntsp> ello
[21:25] <kahtahs> < ntsp> Patero-angie 10.04 has passed the EOL on May 2013, that means no security fixes <- server is still supported till may 2015
[21:25] <kahtahs> *april
[21:26] <ntsp> he said pc, assumed desktop
[21:37] <AudaxNovus> I have an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS machine on a subdomain (iplayguitar0702.koding.io)
[21:37] <AudaxNovus> The host is koding.com
[21:37] <AudaxNovus> During Postfix initial installation, what should I enter as the "mail name"?
[21:37] <AudaxNovus> Should I enter the subdomain (which is all this machine has access to) or the full thing?
[21:38] <daftykins> you just stated two different TLDs 0o
[21:38] <dtscodefish> if i installed ubuntu to my whole hdd, and wanted to change it so it was only on half of the hdd, how would i dothat?
[21:38] <daftykins> dtscodefish: boot live session, resize with gparted
[21:40] <dtscodefish> daftykins: ty. a live session would be via the usb stick i installed it to right?
[21:41] <rww> yes
[21:42] <daftykins> dtscodefish: installed from
[21:46] <kaotic_> Hey did anybody else getting an error booting up ubuntu today?
[21:46] <multiverse> Hello, I recently installed 14.10, and tried to start NFS, but I get the following messages:  Not starting NFS kernel daemon: no support in current kernel.
[21:46] <multiverse> I don’t know what to do for a quick fix, cause I’m a newbie.
[21:47] <kaotic_> I had the same problem but , so how my issue fixed itself
[21:48] <YukonSpector> multiverse, Article I used to solve that problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/507983/nfs-kernel-daemon-no-support-in-current-kernel
[21:48] <kaotic_> multiverse , i'm a newbie as well um did you try to google it?
[21:48] <YukonSpector> installing the nfs-kernel-server and a reboot did it for me.
[21:48] <multiverse> alas, not for me.  But I will review that article.  kaotic, I did.
[21:49] <kaotic_> Hey and i'm also new to this whole irc , and i'm not familiar with it what so ever , anybody want to give me some pointers that i can use?
[21:49] <SchrodingersScat> !irc | kaotic_
[21:50] <kaotic_> Thanks!
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | kaotic_
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> kaotic_: because !who
[21:51] <kaotic_> How would i go about setting up my own IRC server is that all in there as well or what?
[21:52] <YukonSpector> multiverse, bummer. Guess I got off easy then.
[21:53] <kaotic_> How do I log out of this irc chat and then log into another?
[21:54] <daftykins> kaotic_: you mean change server? depends what client you're typing from
[21:54] <daftykins> typically just "/server servernamehere.com" might work
[21:54] <bprompt_> kaotic_:   you can just /part a channel and /join another, same server, if that's what you mean
[21:54] <kaotic_> daftykins: Thanks!
[21:59] <Guiri> Hi.  I think I botched my `service` command somehow.  `sudo service nginx status` returns nothing, and nginx isn't running.
[21:59] <packetz> Hello
[22:03] <Megabyte> Hello, everyone
[22:03] <Megabyte> Could you please enlighten me here?
[22:03] <Megabyte> "Ubuntu will always be free of charge, along with its regular enterprise
[22:03] <Megabyte> releases and security updates."
[22:03] <DANDOUN> HELLO THERE
[22:03] <buddd> its free i'm on it i didn't pay anything
[22:03] <Pici> Megabyte: Whats the question?
[22:03] <buddd> they're real and they're wonderful
[22:04] <Megabyte> Pici, It says "Ubuntu will always be free of charge". Does it mean we only have one Ubuntu?
[22:04] <Megabyte> Why is it listing "regular enterprise releases" separately?
[22:04] <daftykins> Megabyte: nothing in those words indicates quantity of editions
[22:04] <Megabyte> daftykins, What is it referring to?
[22:05] <k1l_> Megabyte: its not excluding anything
[22:05] <Bashing-om> Megabyte: The term 'ubuntu' is collective in that there are many releases under that umbrella .
[22:05] <Danato> some software are free for home users, but really expensive for companies
[22:05] <Danato> its saying its not the case with Ubuntu
[22:05] <Megabyte> k1l_, Can't it just say then, "All releases of Ubuntu will be free"?
[22:05] <Pici> Sure, but thats boring, and not what Marketing people get paid to do.
[22:06] <daftykins> Megabyte: is English not your first language? it makes total sense
[22:06] <IdleOne> Mega: tomato/tomato
[22:06] <k1l_> Megabyte: because than you would join here and ask what is meant with "all" ;p
[22:06] <Danato> they want to make it clear for enterprises, to make it clear that there are no tiny phrases somewhere saying that only applies to home computers
[22:07] <Megabyte> daftykins, It's not my first language
[22:07] <Megabyte> Pici, lol
[22:07] <Megabyte> Pici, I guess I'm a boring person
[22:08] <Megabyte> Thanks, guys
[22:09] <multiverse> How do I load the NFS kernel module on 14.10?
[22:10] <genii> Maybe something like sudo modprobe nfs   ( or nfsv4 or nfsv3, etcetera)
[22:10] <junix> hello everyone...
[22:10] <multiverse> modprobe nfs
[22:10] <multiverse> modprobe: FATAL: Module nfs not found.
[22:11] <junix> i'm new to this here, and i would like to know if anyone here can help me with a problem that i have with a server.
[22:11] <acz32> is this ubuntu-only or can we ask about other flavors
[22:12] <daftykins> junix: you can ask but #ubuntu-server might make more sense
[22:12] <acz32> nobody is answering in #lubuntu
[22:12] <rww> acz32: you can ask about other official flavors. Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.
[22:12] <rww> Lubuntu is fine
[22:12] <acz32> i'm unable to start lubuntu in a live environment or install it. i end up with the center image. what's going on https://imgur.com/a/XMf5U
[22:12] <acz32> using virtualbox
[22:12] <mircx1> hello i have problem i try install smtp
[22:12] <multiverse> Good idea, thanks
[22:12] <mircx1> and i get this
[22:13] <mircx1> Escape character is '^]'.
[22:13] <mircx1> 220 ubuntu.ubuntu-domain ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[22:13] <mircx1> 421 4.4.2 ubuntu.ubuntu-domain Error: timeout exceeded
[22:13] <mircx1> Connection closed by foreign host.
[22:13] <k1l_> mircx1: please put the command and output into a pastebin and show the link here
[22:14] <junix> thank you dftykins will try that channels
[22:14] <htqp> how can I have kernel 3.18 on trusty?
[22:14] <k1l_> htqp: only with a mainline kernel
[22:15] <k1l_> !mainline | htqp
[22:15] <mircx1> ok this my problem
[22:15] <mircx1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10520134/
[22:15] <mircx1> i try install smtp and i get error
[22:15] <htqp> k1l_: thank you
[22:16] <k1l_> mircx1: what command? please put all output in there
[22:17] <mircx1> i put in paste
[22:17] <mircx1> ohh
[22:17] <mircx1> this command
[22:17] <mircx1> telnet localhost 25
[22:17] <mircx1> but i change this to my ip
[22:17] <daftykins> mircx1: please press enter less
[22:18] <k1l_> i dont understand what you want to do there or what you use there at all.
[22:18] <daftykins> looks like an attempt at banner grabbing then sending spam manually
[22:19] <mircx1> i used with this guide
[22:19] <mircx1> and i install this in ubuntu 12
[22:19] <mircx1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[22:20] <jatt> is google chrome 41.0.2272.76 (64-bit) broken on ubuntu? scrolling doesn't seem to work anymore
[22:21] <OerHeks> jatt, current official chrome is 40.0.2214.115, how did you get 41.x ?
[22:22] <jatt> I've:
[22:22] <jatt> ii  google-chrome-stable                  41.0.2272.76-1                             amd64        The web browser from Google
[22:22] <jatt> upgraded just now
[22:22] <OerHeks> i just checked updates, noticed 41.x ..
[22:23] <jatt> scroll doesn't work at all, after upgrade
[22:23] <junix> i will ask the question here anyway of my problem....
[22:23] <OerHeks> jatt, file a bugreport ? use their own "help> report a bug" menu
[22:24] <junix> i have a virtual server that was powered off wrong and i have a problem rebooting, and a message as follows: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[22:24] <jatt> does it work fine for you?
[22:24] <OerHeks> jatt, i keep 41.x on hold now, i think
[22:24] <OerHeks> or wait, i just update and sewe if i have that issue too
[22:24] <jatt> ok fair enough
[22:25] <bekks> junix: What are the lines before that?
[22:25] <OerHeks> jatt, scrolling up/down and left/right works fine here
[22:26] <jatt> OerHeks: ok great, thanks. it should be something with my setup then
[22:26] <k1l_> jatt: check plugins. maybe try a clean one
[22:26] <bruce927> I've just installed xubuntu on my hp stream, and most everything works, but because the trackpad is one solid button it won't let me drag when hold down the button and moving my finger
[22:26] <junix> bekks: two lines before.... sd 2;0:0:0: timing out command, waited 180s
[22:27] <bruce927> Is there any sort of xconfig or something to mark the bottom portion of the trackpad as not touchable, just a button?
[22:27] <junix> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 5415352
[22:27] <daftykins> junix: what kind of virtual server?
[22:27] <bekks> junix: your disk is broken.
[22:27] <junix> bekks: this has happen before and it took about 3 to 4 hours to reboot
[22:28] <bekks> junix: Contact your hoster, the host running your VPS is broken.
[22:28] <junix> VPS?
[22:28] <Squall5668> junix: if this has happend before, your physical disks are about to get trashed. Still try to run fsck from a live cd
[22:28] <OerHeks> jatt, you might want to clean chrome, ~/.config/google-chrome
[22:28] <bekks> junix: your virtual server.
[22:29] <yorwos> guyz, i run the application RecordMyDekstop and i dont know how to stop the recording ?
[22:29] <ad__> .
[22:29] <junix> bekks: in house hosted
[22:29] <SchrodingersScat> yorwos: do you see a red circle somewhere in your indicator icons?
[22:29] <bekks> junix: Doesnt matter. It hsa a broken disk.
[22:29] <SchrodingersScat> yorwos: actually it's probably a grey square
[22:29] <yorwos> no , just a tiny border grey ariound my screen
[22:30] <SchrodingersScat> yorwos: that may be gtkrecordmydesktop I'm thinking of, did you run this from commandline?
[22:30] <junix> Squall5668: i have a some disk partition where the OS is install and a mounted parttion of 4 tbytes
[22:30] <yorwos> no,i jsut used application finder it was preinstalled already
[22:31] <bekks> junix: And your disk is broken.
[22:31] <genii> junix: I/O error is hardware
[22:31] <junix> bekks: its a san where drive space is shared
[22:31] <bekks> junix: So contact the admin of that SAN.
[22:32] <yorwos> in my task manager i can see recordmydesktop -o blabla running, should i just kill the proccess ?
[22:32] <daftykins> Squall5668: sorry but if a disk had bad sectors fsck is not what you'd even consider doing ;)
[22:33] <bekks> Squall5668: And fsck will not repair bad sectors.
[22:33] <junix> daftulins: what would be the fix
[22:33] <bekks> junix: Replace the disk.
[22:33] <daftykins> junix: as bekks says :) but if you could boot a live session on whatever host machine is running this server, we could prove this.
[22:34] <junix> bekks: let me ask the SAN admin if there is any problems with hardware
[22:34] <bekks> Or contact the SAN admin, who will replace the disk and restore the backups. :)
[22:34] <bekks> junix: Obviously there are problems.
[22:35] <junix> daftykins: i will reboot the server and bootup with a live cd
[22:35] <daftykins> junix: is this machine some kind of vmware ESXi host or similar?
[22:35] <junix> daftykins:is a virtual inside a vmware esxi hosts
[22:36] <bekks> junix: So contact the VMware admin as well.
[22:36] <junix> all off the windows vm boot up ok but not the linux one
[22:37] <Gerowen> I'm trying to connect to a wireless network via the terminal, and I've got my password entered, but when I hit enter it just jumps down one line to a > character instead of accepting the command.  I'm guessing it has something to do with the special characters in my password.  How would I fix this?
[22:38] <luis_> Gerowen: try quotes
[22:38] <luis_> "password"
[22:38] <Gerowen> tried that, right now it's:
[22:38] <jonas_> :vipah ???
[22:38] <Gerowen> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid AdamsFamily key passwordhere
[22:38] <junix> daftykins: after booting the vm with a live cd, what would i do to see what is wrong. i'm not to good in linux...
[22:39] <bruce927> Does anyone know how to mark a certain bit of my trackpad as a dead zone?
[22:39] <daftykins> junix: is it an ubuntu 12.04+ ?
[22:39] <Guest14082> jonnas1977
[22:39] <junix> 10.04
[22:39] <daftykins> 10.04 desktop is EOL :S
[22:39] <daftykins> unsupported and dead as the dodo
[22:39] <Guest14082> donny e du där
[22:39] <nibbler> Gerowen: > results when you open quotes and don't close them. maybe you have a quote in your password
[22:39] <daftykins> !info smartmontools lucid
[22:39] <bekks> bruce927: colored pen, there you go ;) Honestly, i doubt there is a chance to do so, using a trackpad.
[22:40] <junix> yes, i was in the proccess of upgrading
[22:40] <Gerowen> nibbler: I probably do, I'll just hardwire it for the time being, it's no biggie.
[22:40] <daftykins> junix: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" (where sdX is the hard disk you want to check, "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo parted -l" would let you see the disks
[22:40] <daftykins> !info pastebinit lucid
[22:40] <daftykins> yay
[22:42] <junix> daftykins: the installation of the smartmontools will be install in the live cd session?
[22:42] <junix> not on the server itself
[22:42] <daftykins> junix: yep
[22:42] <buddd> need to write a raw_input statement that asks for 2 parameters: from x to y. Is there an elegant way to do this?
[22:42] <daftykins> in RAM, technically
[22:42] <daftykins> buddd: #bash
[22:42] <junix> daftykins: let me try that will post the out come
[22:43] <buddd> sorry meant to send to python
[22:44] <nibbler> Gerowen: if you have single quote in the password, quote the whole password in doubles, or vice versa. or escape the quote
[22:44] <junix> daftykins: there is not need to let the vm trying to boot from where it is, just power off and boot from live cd?
[22:45] <daftykins> junix: correct
[22:45] <yorwos> i killed recordmydesktop application while recording the video and i got a msg ur video is saved program closed unexpected or something , now i go to the directory and i cant find any saved file, either any file on /tmp
[22:45] <bruce927> buddd, Probably something like  if 1 <= input < 10: :P
[22:47] <Gerowen> nibbler: I was trying to connect to the wireless with Clonezilla to make a backup image of a laptop to my server over the network, and the wireless is secured with a 63 character WPA2 password, so I just went ahead and sat it beside the router and hardwired it.
[22:49] <amancer1> Hey, someone up?
[22:49] <freeroute> I'm laying in bed
[22:49] <amancer1> Good enough for me, I guess
[22:49] <k1l_> amancer1: better ask your question before all 1800 users start to greet everyone
[22:49] <freeroute> saucy
[22:49] <dtscodefish> hey guys i cant get unetbootin started. someone help/
[22:50] <freeroute> you guys
[22:50] <freeroute> !ask
[22:50] <josephleon> I know I can use the mv command to mv files on my server but what is the best way to move files from one server to another?
[22:50] <freeroute> also more details won't hurt dtscodefish
[22:50] <k1l_> josephleon: "scp"
[22:50] <dtscodefish> freeroute: theres not much. it runs gksudo, then nothing happens
[22:50] <k1l_> josephleon: or even rsync using ssh
[22:51] <josephleon> k1l_ right thanks
[22:51] <a7i3n> ubotto is so wordy :)
[22:51] <dtscodefish> when i run it from the terminal it says it cant connect to the xserver
[22:51] <amancer1> Is it normal to have usernames called "colord, rtkit, nobody, whoopsie, avahi" listed when executing: "ls -l /proc"?
[22:52] <freeroute> dtscodefish: on what are you running unetbootin from? What are you trying to do with unetbootin? How are you trying to start it up?
[22:52] <cimbakahn> "overwrite files to hide contents"    <------ Does it lay down ONES and ZEROS?
[22:52] <freeroute> amancer1: yes
[22:52] <amancer1> freeroute: Thanks.
[22:52] <cimbakahn> Thank you so very much for answering!
[22:53] <dtscodefish> running it from ubuntu 14.04. trying to install an iso to a flashdrive. im trying to start it by clicking the top button thing you use to find your apps
[22:53] <nibbler> Gerowen: ah, okay. i guess thatsa good idea anyway, considering the ammount of data
[22:54] <daftykins> dtscodefish: i would not use unetbootin
[22:54] <lulimay> Hi! I have installed openjdk-7-jre using apt-get and an application has asked me to create a path to jps, however jps doesn't seem to exist where people say it's going to. Can anyone help me out?
[22:54] <daftykins> dtscodefish: you want to make up a flash drive with an ubuntu, from within ubuntu?
[22:54] <dtscodefish> what do you recommend daftykins?
[22:55] <dtscodefish> no, i want to make a windows flashdrive on ubuntu
[22:55] <daftykins> dtscodefish: oh, that's really buggy with unetbootin i think
[22:55] <daftykins> dtscodefish: 7 or 8? legacy boot or EFI?
[22:55] <dtscodefish> 7 legacy
[22:55] <freeroute> amancer1: those are just system users, if you check out /etc/passwd you can see that those system users don't have a shell
[22:55] <daftykins> ah, yeah that's gonna be a challenge from what i've heard
[22:55] <Ben64> should probably ask ##windows
[22:56] <dtscodefish> if its that hard ill just grab a dvd
[22:56] <freeroute> dtscodefish: try to run it from terminal
[22:56] <amancer1> freeroute: Cool, thanks!
[22:57] <amancer1> freeroute: I'm currently trying to set up i2p and get "Cannot find /proc/version - is /proc mounted?" when trying to launch it. That's how I originaly got there.
[22:58] <freeroute> lol there's definitely something wrong if /proc/version is not found
[22:59] <Steve33`> Hello. Is there any way I can generate arrays in bash from Xaa to Xbx without actually typping 52 times? Xaa Xab...Xax...Xba...Xbx ? Thanks
[22:59] <daftykins> Steve33`: ask #bash perhaps
[23:00] <Steve33`> ok thanks
[23:00] <Nikesh> How can I change how Unity scrolls through alt+tab? i.e. If I have four firefox windows open, I need to pause at Firefox, then it will show the four windows open, But i would rather see all of those windows by default
[23:00] <Wug> Steve33`: echo Xa{a..z} Xb{a..x}
[23:00] <AudaxNovus> If I have access to a VM on a subdomain and subdomain only, dhring the initial setup after doing apt-get install postfix, what should I set the 'mail name' to?
[23:01] <amancer1> freeroute: That doesn't sound good, I'll guess I'm going to look into that.
[23:01] <Wug> Steve33`: wait, your case is even simpler. echo X{a,b}{a..x}
[23:02] <syrius> for distributing a binary, would building on 14.04 or 12.04 be more appropriate for reaching the max # of people able to run it?
[23:02] <Steve33`> Wug, thanks a lot!
[23:02] <daftykins> well, consider 12.04 support ends April 2017
[23:03] <Wug> I've got a question too
[23:03] <daftykins> so it'd make sense to make something work on both right now
[23:03] <syrius> daftykins: people on 14.04 should be able to run 12.04 binaries with little to no issue, yeah?
[23:03] <Steve33`> Wug, yes
[23:03] <daftykins> syrius: not sure on that one, i'm no dev i'm afraid
[23:04] <syrius> daftykins: ah, ok.. ty
[23:04] <amancer1> freeroute: I can open /proc/version: Linux version 3.2.0-77-generic (buildd@phianna) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #112-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 10 15:22:22 UTC 2015"... So it's there I guess?
[23:04] <Wug> say I have a desktop ubuntu machine running an X environment, and I also have a windows machine running xming.  I want to be able to launch programs somehow such that they are displayed simultaneously on both X screens
[23:05] <syrius> Wug: you'd be better off running a NoMachine connection
[23:05] <freeroute> amancer1: yeah (btw, always use cat or echo for that)
[23:05] <freeroute> err, cat I meant
[23:05] <Wug> syrius: I don't know what that means.
[23:05] <m1dnight_> guys, is /usr/local/sbin in the environment for a user that is not allowed to have sudo rights?
[23:05] <syrius> Wug: it's a remote desktiop application that allows simultaneous viewing of the remote desktop
[23:05] <syrius> and it's free
[23:05] <freeroute> mircx1: no, sbin is for users with root privs
[23:05] <daftykins> Wug: teamviewer would make most sense i think there
[23:06] <freeroute> m1dnight_: I meant
[23:06] <m1dnight_> aha! :)
[23:06] <syrius> daftykins: NX is a free teamviewer essentially but can work on local networks directly for far increased performance
[23:06] <amancer1> freeroute: How do I echo/cat the content of a file?
[23:06] <syrius> amancer1: cat file
[23:06] <Wug> this would be for working remotely, and you can't use teamviewer commercially without a license
[23:06] <daftykins> syrius: ah-har good to know, thanks
[23:06] <Wug> and TV licenses are hella expensive.
[23:06] <syrius> Wug: exactly, which is why NX is a good alternative
[23:07] <amancer1> syrius: I feel like such a noob. Thanks to you guys, thanks to the community, thanks to this channel (Y)
[23:07] <syrius> amancer1: np
[23:07] <Wug> I'll look into it, but under the circumstances and given the configurations I've tried I've been more impressed with single-window forwarding as opposed to whole-session forwarding
[23:08] <Wug> i.e. something like vnc
[23:08] <syrius> but wouldn't single-window forwarding be pretty awkard for the person on the other end?
[23:08] <syrius> since you have no peripheral of anything else on their screen
[23:08] <stijndg> since when is teamviewer not free? been using it for 2 years without me paying anything...
[23:08] <Wug> there is only one person, and it's me. it's just a question of me being in the office, or at home
[23:08] <syrius> then why not just use X11 forwarding for the specific program?
[23:08] <syrius> ah
[23:09] <Wug> that's what I'm currently doing
[23:09] <syrius> but you want it there when you get into the office as well
[23:09] <Wug> yes, precisely
[23:09] <Wug> X forwarding through some magical x proxy that outputs to multiple displays simultaneously would probably be sufficient
[23:10] <Wug> which is how I found dmx
[23:10] <Wug> but I have no idea if that will actually work for this, so I figured I'd ask to see if someone else has tried something like this
[23:10] <syrius> Wug: no, i think most people just use remote screen view... and are you only planning on running 1 program at a time on the remote server?
[23:11] <freeroute> amancer1: http://linuxcommand.org/
[23:11] <Wug> if I found something that worked really well but had a 1-program limitation, I could probably make it work
[23:11] <freeroute> that helps
[23:11] <syrius> stijndg: teamviewer has always cost $$$ for commercial use
[23:12] <syrius> if you're using it in the office that's against their license terms
[23:12] <Wug> well, if you're using it for work that's against their license
[23:12] <syrius> you CAN download it and use it all you want, but when you install/run it you select what your usage is
[23:12] <Wug> chances are if you're using it from the office to do non-work things on your home computer, that's technically ok
[23:13] <ikonia> I doubt thats "ok"
[23:13] <ikonia> most offices will block that
[23:13] <ikonia> and most offices will have an interenet usage policy to stop that
[23:13] <daftykins> i think the idea is that which you profit from
[23:13] <Wug> yes, but that's not a license issue with teamviewer
[23:13] <daftykins> (for what commercial purposes means)
[23:13] <daftykins> so if someone paid you to fix their system remotely...
[23:14] <Wug> that's the sort of thing teamviewer was designed for
[23:14] <Wug> I'm not sure they license it with the use case of remotely working on one computer in mind
[23:14] <Wug> it's like $900 for a single-connection license
[23:14] <ikonia> email the teamviewer team and ask them for clarification
[23:14] <Squall5668> daftykins: it's very 'loose'. You'd be better off blocking it in your office. If you are using it from there to connect to home and trasnfer files for work that you forgot, is it commercial or personal use?
[23:15] <ikonia> any doubt, ask the people wh owrite it
[23:15] <daftykins> i'd hope i weren't using teamviewer for that kind of task :D
[23:16] <Squall5668> Heh, point. Back to topic!
[23:16] <Wug> regardless I don't want to use teamviewer for this, because I would have to jump through hoops to make it work. the office has an external SSH proxy already so X forwarding is a triviality, but anything beyond that I need all sorts of tunnels for
[23:17] <_DB> hey guys I have a external cd drive anyway I can boot from it?
[23:17] <ikonia> if your bios supports it
[23:17] <_DB> or set it to boot on next start up
[23:17] <Wug> that question has different answers depending on what hardware you have. have you tried it?
[23:17] <_DB> yeah I went to the boot menu
[23:17] <_DB> but it doesnt show up
[23:18] <ikonia> then it doesn't support it
[23:18] <_DB> uhhh
[23:18] <Wug> can you boot from other usb devices
[23:18] <_DB> yeah
[23:18] <Wug> maybe try disconnecting all of the other boot devices, plug just that one in, and see if it works automatically
[23:19] <_DB> how can I run a windows install inside ubuntu?
[23:19] <ikonia> _DB: you don't
[23:19] <_DB> through wine? or virtual box?
[23:19] <ikonia> neither
[23:19] <Wug> "inside" ubuntu, you'd need some sort of virtualization platform
[23:19] <_DB> yeah thats what I figured with wine or virtual box
[23:19] <burkmat> _DB: VirtualBox works.
[23:20] <burkmat> _DB: Wine doesn't provide what you're looking for.
[23:20] <k1l_> _DB: wine can only run windows apps. but not windows
[23:20] <Wug> you can run windows programs (to a degree) without virtualization using wine, and installing one alongside the other is trivially easy to do but will not let you run both at once, obviously.
[23:20] <ikonia> thats is not an install inside ubuntu
[23:20] <ikonia> that will install to a virtual machine
[23:20] <_DB> Ive made 2 bootable usb with windows 7 none have worked
[23:20] <_DB> no no
[23:20] <_DB> I want to dual boot
[23:20] <ikonia> _DB: the ##windows channel can help you with that
[23:20] <Wug> ikonia: potato potato *inflection differences*
[23:20] <_DB> but I cant seem to get windows 7 installed
[23:20] <ikonia> Wug: no, thats significant
[23:20] <burkmat> _DB: How did you make the USBs? Did you use Unetbootin?
[23:21] <_DB> no I used winUSb
[23:21] <Wug> running windows inside a virtual machine inside ubuntu is running windows inside ubuntu via the transitive property.
[23:21] <k1l_> _DB: you cant install windows from a running ubuntu. please ask the ##windows guys how to proceed with that install
[23:21] <_DB> then I used rufus on a windows environment
[23:21] <Wug> _DB: windows is not particularly friendly to live USB configurations
[23:22] <Greencloud> Does the latest version of ubuntu still uses GRUB?
[23:22] <ikonia> Greencloud: yes
[23:22] <Wug> grub2 in fact
[23:23] <Wug> they ultimately behave similarly, but much of the configuration process is different
[23:23] <Wug> make sure you read the documentation for the correct version
[23:24] <acz32> my installation is aborting due to "unsafe swap space". but i haven't even defined swap yet. i just selected to encrypt disk and use LVM. what should i do? https://i.imgur.com/C91Fxdd.png
[23:24] <Greencloud> @_DB: if thats the case you can try install windows first then let grub in ubuntu sort of auto detect ur windows. Worked for me before when i was still using ubuntu
[23:24] <Wug> _DB: if you want to dual boot, I suggest you use gparted to repartition (shrinking other partitions as necessary to create a 40GB empty primary partition) and run the windows installer, which should do the rest for you
[23:25] <_DB> how would I run the windows installer?
[23:25] <Ben64> _DB: ask ##windows
[23:26] <Wug> _DB: it's the windows install CD.
[23:26] <Wug> you'd boot from it
[23:26] <Ben64> acz32: do you actually need encryption
[23:26] <daftykins> acz32: what is that? doesn't really look like a standard ubuntu to me 0o but granted i've not seen them all
[23:26] <Wug> like I said, windows gets cranky running from USB devices. you may manage to get it to work but YMMV
[23:26] <_DB> what if I resize my partition and run virtual box?
[23:26] <acz32> Ben64: no, i'm just experimenting in a vm
[23:27] <acz32> daftykins: lubuntu
[23:27] <acz32> i don't even want swap space
[23:27] <Wug> _DB: I don't know why you'd bother to do that, since if you're virtualizing it you can keep the windows filesystem on your linux filesystem as a flat file
[23:27] <Ben64> acz32: encryption in general is more trouble than its worth, id suggest doing away with it
[23:28] <Wug> acz32: can you ctrl+alt+f1 to bring up a tty, and run swapoff?
[23:28] <acz32> Ben64: thanks for sharing your opinion but it doesn't answer my question
[23:28] <Greencloud> _DB: after u successfully install windows, u can then set the partitions u need for ubuntu, like ur boot, swap, home, drive, etc..
[23:28] <Ben64> acz32: thats why i asked if you needed encryption, to which you replied "no"
[23:28] <acz32> Wug: i'll try that thanks
[23:29] <acz32> Ben64: i don't NEED it. so what?
[23:29] <acz32> i am trying to do it either way
[23:29] <burkmat> _DB: What do you intend to use your Windows installation for? Gaming? Or just certain Windows applications?
[23:29] <Ben64> acz32: ok then do what the error message you posted says. stop being so combative
[23:29] <_DB> certain windows apps
[23:29] <_DB> Im developing games in unity
[23:29] <Wug> Ben64: while that's a pretty valid point, there is definitely an argument for experimentation for the sake of experimentation
[23:29] <_DB> and it only runs on windows and mac
[23:30] <_DB> i recently had to format my HDD when I botched a windows 8 removal
[23:30] <burkmat> _DB: If a Virtual Machine is good enough, I wuold recommend it. It has a lot of benefits in my opinion, and is a lot easier to set up.
[23:30] <acz32> Wug: your suggestion worked. i didn't know you could access a shell during the installer process. thanks
[23:30] <burkmat> _DB: You should know that a virtual machine is good for most things you might want to do in a Windows environment, except high-performance video/audio stuff like gaming.
[23:31] <Wug> acz32: idk where it got the swap from, maybe it found a swap partition already on the disk and used that?
[23:31] <_DB> I probably shouldnt try to develop games
[23:31] <_DB> in a virtual environment
[23:31] <_DB> as soon as I start stress testing or importing big models it will probably crash
[23:31] <Wug> developing them in a virtual environment will be fine. testing them or playing them not so much
[23:31] <_DB> lol
[23:32] <acz32> Wug: i don't know. it's in its own VM in virtualbox. shouldn't have any swap, just an empty disk
[23:32] <arvenius> ctrl-f5 is your friend
[23:32] <burkmat> _DB: It won't crash, but it will take a lot longer and if you're doing advanced video stuff you might get issues.
[23:32] <burkmat> _DB: You should probably have dual boot though.
[23:32] <_DB> thats what im aiming for
[23:32] <_DB> but windows 7 doesnt want to install for some reason lol
[23:32] <_DB> I have a external cd drive but it wont boot
[23:32] <Ben64> _DB: ask ##windows !!
[23:32] <_DB> I also have a iso saved on my ubuntu in my downloads
[23:33] <_DB> sepeck  then figure that out first. 6:25:31 PM sepeck  we're not really a dual boot channel, just fyi
[23:33] <_DB> I did ^^
[23:33] <k1l_> _DB: please stick to ubuntu support in here. (already asked you several times now)
[23:38] <_DB> OMFGGG!!
[23:38] <_DB> i hate windows
[23:38] <jtllo> :D
[23:38] <jtllo> You love Windows!
[23:38] <_DB> ive spent two weeks unable to install this because the OS selection was set to windows 8
[23:38] <_DB> and im trying to install 7
[23:39] <jtllo> that sux
[23:39] <Squall5668> no, THAT sucks
[23:39] <k1l_> _DB: this is not a "talk about windows" channel. stick to ubuntu support in here.
[23:40] <Wug> I once got muted in this channel for like 4 months because I said "god damnit ubuntu". I was angry (and I am still angry) because my editor crashed (and still crashes, bug remains unfixed) and I assert that my fury was justified
[23:40] <Wug> crashing editors is not ok
[23:40] <k1l_> !ot |  Wug
[23:44] <McMido> hmm any idea why my ubuntu freezes suddenly ?
[23:45] <k1l_> McMido: see the logs
[23:45] <McMido> K1rk: alright ill check it
[23:46] <k1l_> like dmesg or syslog in /var/log
[23:48] <Ladon> Can I change the default local lftp directory?
[23:50] <McMido> k1l_: is thats normal ?? , http://paste.ubuntu.com/10520808/
[23:55] <MoPac> McMido: Are the freezes happening when you're doing something like changing the volume or starting to watch a video?
[23:56] <McMido> just surfing like 10+ web sites. thats all