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bluesabreugh01:28
bluesabrelibxfce4util is chilling in proposed and things are still building against whats in release01:29
Unit193Really?  That's odd.  Did it all build?01:29
bluesabrejust noticed that desktop cleared really quick01:30
bluesabrehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/xfdesktop401:30
bluesabredepends on libxfce4util601:30
bluesabrenot 701:30
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfce4util01:31
* bluesabre doesn't want to upload everything twice01:31
* bluesabre guesses its locked in proposed since its not pre-acked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/142488701:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1424887 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Xfce 4.12 for Vivid" [Undecided,Triaged]01:34
* bluesabre wonders how many xfce-4.12 packages will work in precise03:31
* Unit193 isn't about to find out, and will be pointing to bluesabre when things break. :P03:32
bluesabre:D03:32
Unit193Precise is pretty dated, I don't touch that anymore if I can at all help it.  I'd not really recommend trying to do it either, but meh.03:32
bluesabreit turned out that precise was pretty handy for distcheck without deprecations over the weekend :)03:32
Unit193Hah. :P03:33
Noskcaj-schoolI don't have time to properly report the bug today, but in mousepad, opening multiple files at once will make blank grey boxes appear at the top and bottom of the window. I have the bottom statusbar on03:33
Unit193So, they all have a super outdated config.{guess|sub} ? :P03:33
Noskcaj-schoolmousepad 0.4.003:33
bluesabreNoskcaj-school: good to know03:33
bluesabreUnit193: probably x.x03:33
Noskcaj-schoolbluesabre: Might be just gtk3. I'll hopefully have time to properly look into it tomorrow afternoon03:34
Unit193Yep, nevermind.  Leaving the autoreconf stuff in.03:34
bluesabreNoskcaj-school: cool, let me know03:34
bluesabreUnit193: :D03:34
Noskcaj-schoolWhy do we want 4.12 on precise? shouldn't we be trying to point people to trusty for that?03:34
bluesabreNoskcaj-school: it'd only be for my benefit03:35
Noskcaj-schoolok03:35
Noskcaj-schoolbluesabre: Did you have any issues with my 4.12 packages? How many still need uploading?03:35
Unit193Ahh, thought you might have been talking about the xfce-4.12 ppa. :P03:35
Noskcaj-schoolI didn't touch gtk2-engines-xfce since i don03:35
Noskcaj-school't remember the responce for if we want gtk303:35
bluesabreNoskcaj-school: your packages are fine, been uploading mostly to the xfce-4.12 ppa03:36
bluesabretrying to upload to the archive, but libxfce4util is stuck in proposed and things are just building with the older one03:36
bluesabreso putting that on hold momentarily03:36
bluesabreUnit193: I may upload for precise to that ppa as well, but I'll do testing in advance on a vm before going through with that03:38
bluesabrewe should either update the packages for precise and drop the ones for precise we have in the ppa03:38
bluesabresecond and should be or03:38
bluesabre:D03:39
bluesabre"update them and remove them!"03:39
Unit193Precise is nearly gone for Xubuntu, soo.03:39
bluesabreguess that was the first and after all03:39
bluesabreyeah03:39
Unit193I've been ignoring all but trusty in that one, and in others have been going either trusty/utopic/vivid, or utopic/vivid.03:40
* bluesabre dumps 4.12 into trusty-4.1203:40
bluesabrestill need to package exo 0.10.3 tonight/tomorrow03:41
bluesabreand package the engines for just the ppa (trusty/utopic/vivid)03:42
Unit193I did a slight update at some point.03:42
bluesabreyeah, saw your git patch03:43
bluesabremight just push that for now until I get around to it03:43
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12/+builds?build_state=building :)03:44
bluesabrexfpm always wants to complicate things and fail on the first try :p03:45
Unit193Hah, well I meant the engines, but that works too. :P03:47
bluesabreUnit193: if you have them, upload them :)03:48
Unit193gtk2-engines-xfce_3.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc outdated slightly, isn't it?03:48
bluesabreseems so03:49
bluesabre08:21:19   SwissBot | ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: gtk-xfce-engine 2.10.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-gtk-xfce-engine-2-10-0-released-tp45527.html (by Peter de Ridder)               │         03:49
bluesabre                      │08:21:19   SwissBot | ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: gtk-xfce-engine 3.2.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-gtk-xfce-engine-3-2-0-released-tp45529.html (by Peter de Ridder)03:49
bluesabregotta run, bbl03:53
flexiondotorgochosi, ali1234 bluesabre elfy I've moved my GTK2 build here - https://launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/+archive/ubuntu/broken-software11:07
ali1234flexiondotorg: just installing it in a vm, i had to download i38612:11
flexiondotorgali1234, ack12:11
elfyochosi bluesabre bug 1427654 fyi12:52
ubottubug 1427654 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Vivid) "FFE: switch system init to systemd [not touch] in 15.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142765412:52
ochosioha, so finally – and naturally after FF – we switch to a new init system :]12:54
elfy;)12:54
ochosiali1234: btw, did you get to any conclusion regarding the ubiquity panel in the end? i got really distracted/busy with the 4.12 release so i didn't follow that anymore and am not sure about the status quo12:55
elfystill no movement from -releaseI guess12:55
ali1234ochosi: nothing changed on my end12:55
ochosihm, so what was that again then? drop the panel? or make it set different struts?12:56
ali1234fix the panel12:56
ochosithat should be fairly uninvasive, no?12:56
ochosii mean it's only a change in the struts, that's all12:56
ochosi(given that the panel always sits at the exact same position in the exact same height)12:57
ochosilunchtime, bbiab12:58
ali1234flexiondotorg: yeah the panel crashed on login13:24
flexiondotorgali1234, So we are agreed then? New GTK2 is busted.13:24
ali1234yeah but i already thought that13:25
flexiondotorgali1234, Yeah. I thought it to.13:25
ali1234it's crashing in the wrapper13:25
ali1234which is bad because i have no idea how that stuff works13:25
flexiondotorgali1234, But we need to prove it. Now we both can.13:25
flexiondotorgali1234, So I am not sure if I should try removing "suspect" upstream GTK2 commits first or start removing ubuntu patches.13:26
ali1234remove ubuntu patches first13:26
ali1234that's probably going to be easier13:26
flexiondotorgSadly, I don't have a whole heap of time to dig into the GTK2 issue today.13:26
flexiondotorgali1234, All of them or just some?13:26
ali1234all of them13:26
flexiondotorgOK.13:26
* flexiondotorg goes to see if that is a quick job.13:27
brainvvashthe report should be assigned to gtk then too13:27
ali1234the crasher is the notification area13:28
ali1234brainvvash: sounds like your bug13:29
ali1234hmm13:30
brainvvashtoggling the compositor several times crashed hexchat13:30
brainvvashwhich has a tray icon13:30
ali1234restarting the panel jusrt crashed pidgin for me, after enabling the systray icon13:30
ali1234it's 100% reproducable13:32
drcInteresting, "About XFCE" says 4.10 while inixi -F says 4.12.18:33
elfynot here :)18:34
drclet me look again18:34
elfyI'm using vivid AND the staging PPA18:35
drcno ppa18:35
elfythat'll be why 18:36
elfyhttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging?field.series_filter=vivid18:36
drcI was going to ask how stable it was...but hey, this is B1 anyway :)18:37
elfy:)18:39
elfyI've had one hiccup - but pretty sure that was to do with ANOTHER ppa :p18:39
* drc holds breath and ....18:44
drclogout needed?18:44
drcgoing to anyway :)18:45
drcOK, OCD is satisfied, both say 4.12.18:53
Unit193ochosi: Yeah got pinged in -devel about systemd.19:12
Unit193drc: libxfce4util is stuck in proposed, else it'd be good there.19:13
drcwhen it comes unstuck, it comes unstuck...I'm assuming it'll flow down the pipe as usual?19:14
Unit193Should.19:16
elfyknome: did you get a chance to look at that poll? 19:58
elfymmm - picked an odd bug in Thunar20:15
elfycan someone see if they get warnings when restoring something from trash please :)20:15
NoskcajIs anyone here running mousepad 0.4?20:19
elfyyup20:19
Unit193Well, I didn't get it, but that's no surprise maybe since I haven't rebooted.20:19
elfywhich ... 20:20
elfyNoskcaj: multiple files opened looks good here if that's what you're after http://i.imgur.com/LsOxTND.png20:21
Noskcajhttp://i.imgur.com/IOporcN.png20:22
NoskcajAre you on the gtk3?20:22
drcelfy: nope, restore works fine for me.20:22
elfydrc: and thunar version 1.6.6 ?20:23
drcyup20:23
brainvvash_restore works fine here too20:23
elfyNoskcaj: no idea - I'm on whatever I'd get from xubuntu + staging20:23
Noskcajthat should be gtk320:24
elfydrc: never mind then and thanks brainvvash_ 20:24
elfyNOT reinstalling ... 20:24
elfyNoskcaj: then yes :)20:24
Unit193Checking the deps would confirm of course. :P20:25
elfyactually looking further it only appears to be things I've grabbed with bzr 20:26
elfyUnit193: yea it do that 20:27
Unit193elfy: What's your opinion about the new xfwm's feature with highlighting the windows in alt+tab?20:28
elfyI thought that was new ... 20:29
elfycouldn't be sure with this head of mine though :p20:29
elfygiven the way I've got focus set up currently - it works for me 20:30
elfybut it could seem a bit full-on I suppose20:30
Unit193Mmm.  Alright, just as long as it's only me.  It's annoyed me enough for me to turn it off directly after upgrade, not mearly sit annoyed at it for weeks.20:31
elfyI'm only not annoyed as it's less annoying than losing focus as soon as I've alt+tabbed something 20:34
knomeelfy, as we discussed yesterday, i'm pretty sure we can't get it to work as i'd want..20:34
elfyok - I guessed so, fiddled a bit more with the existing one this evening20:34
elfyand drafted Thanks slide - https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/thanks20:35
elfymmm20:36
elfyawesome 20:37
knomeelfy, talking to yourself?20:37
elfyarranged icons on desktop ... 20:37
elfybunch flew off to the left somewhere just beyond the edge20:37
knome:P20:38
elfymaybe I will be reinstalling again soon ... 20:39
knomehave fun :P20:41
knomebtw, i tried kvm inspired by you :D20:41
elfy:)20:41
elfynot as user friendly imo20:41
elfytook me 10 minutes to sort out where to attach an image ... 20:42
knomehaha20:42
knomeyeah...20:42
elfyknome: basically I did it so that if *we* get issues showing up in vbox I can confirm or deny in kvm - so if I'm in -release I've not just got vbox :D20:43
knomeyep20:44
knomei was installing windows inside the kvm container though :D20:44
elfyheh20:44
elfywas it fun?20:44
knomequite a bit like installing to a hard drive from a dics20:46
knomethough i installed it to a virtual environment from an ISO20:46
elfyohhh20:47
elfyso this is weirder 20:47
knomewhat is? :)20:47
elfychanged the panel hide option20:48
elfythen desktop icon moved20:48
knomehmm20:48
elfyso I tried arranging them again20:48
elfynow they have ALL wandered off into the ether20:48
elfyand I can't get them back this time :p20:48
knome:P20:49
elfymmmm20:49
elfyonly have a few things on desktop - but I use them frequently20:49
elfyknome: so I can replicate the weirdness in an updated vm ... http://i.imgur.com/aJk4QUO.png21:28
knomehmm21:29
knomefunny21:29
elfythat's with the staging ppa added 21:30
elfyochosi bluesabre weirdness after arranging desktop icons ^^21:31
slickymasterknome, the idea with the installer is to each of us push to each branch, right?21:51
knomei don't mind where you push ;)21:52
knomebut it's probably better to prepare it off the main branch21:52
elfyslickymaster: I assume you saw mine ^^21:52
knomeat least until you have one of the slides complete21:53
slickymasterno elfy21:53
slickymastercan you post the link elfy?21:53
elfyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/thanks21:54
slickymasterdanka elfy 21:54
elfythe poll needs more than just my view obviously 21:55
slickymasterelfy, what's the meaning of your commit message? "chg to thanks"21:55
slickymasterchanged?21:55
elfyyea21:55
slickymasterahahahah21:55
slickymasterok, I'll work on my branch also knome 21:57
slickymasteranyway, you're the only one you has the rights to push to main21:57
knomeyep21:58
knomeyou can do MP's21:58
slickymasteryeah, but that's unecessary I think21:58
knomebecause you expect me to merge manually? :P21:58
knomeno, please do MP's at least once you're done with all the content changes21:59
knomeor if you want, once for each slide21:59
slickymasterno, what I was thinking is that at the end you cherry pick from my branch and from elfy's and push a final MP21:59
knomewell21:59
knomei was just thinking that it's nicer to see the MP's and the diff's21:59
knomeremember that i'm mostly poking non-content22:00
slickymasterok, I'll do a proper MP22:00
slickymasterno problem knome 22:00
knomethanks22:00
slickymasterI targeting tomorrow - thursday the most22:00
slickymasters/I/I'm22:01
knomemhm22:01
knomei'm not22:01
elfyknome: did mine - marked you reviewer22:01
knomeelfy, ta22:01
knomewill check it likely today then22:01
slickymasterknome, 'mhm'...22:01
slickymastermeaning...22:01
knome"ok"22:01
slickymasternot mumbling thrn22:01
slickymaster* then22:01
slickymaster;)22:02
knomeof course i'm mumbling, just to annoy you22:02
elfyha22:02
slickymasteryeah, you do that :P22:02
* knome puts a big bun in his mouth, mumbles very annoyingly and smiles wide22:02
elfylol22:02
slickymasterthat's quite a picture22:02
knomeyes22:02
* slickymaster will try no to check today's backlog22:03
slickymasters/no/now22:03
elfywell I'm wandering off now 22:03
slickymastergood night elfy 22:03
knomeit's going to be a take in my new movie "how to get slimy masters over the edge"22:03
knomenighty elfy 22:03
elfyha ha 22:04
elfynutty as fruitcakes the lot of you22:04
knomei prefer my nuts not in the fruitcake22:04
knomeregardless the way you want to interpret that...22:05

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