keithzg | Well damn, the Pooch Cafe comic strip plasmoid plugin in now crashing plasma (4, on 14.04) if I just blindly hit "back" and run into a day where there isn't a strip. Considering the author of that plugin is *me*, I hope I still have my freedesktop.org login, heh. | 00:59 |
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soee | good morning | 07:33 |
alket | good morning | 08:01 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 08:21 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:22 |
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soee | hiho BluesKaj | 14:05 |
BluesKaj | hey soee ...still have this cpu running one core at 100% on this chat ...this is really strange that indivivdual chatrooms affect the cpu load. | 14:08 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: Does this single chatroom trigger that, or are there more chatrooms? | 14:08 |
BluesKaj | #kubuntu, #kubuntu-devel, and ##linux | 14:09 |
lordievader | Hmm, not really obvious what could trigger this. Perhaps time for a new irc client? | 14:11 |
BluesKaj | lordievader, this is konversation beta on 15.04 beta ..one expects a few problems but this is unusual | 14:13 |
soee | BluesKaj: have no such problem on my laptop or here @ my work pc | 14:14 |
BluesKaj | soee, on konversation? | 14:14 |
soee | BluesKaj: yes | 14:14 |
Sho_ | I've not seen it yet either sadly (Konversation maintainer here) | 14:15 |
mparillo | If I look at System Activity (ctrl esc) konversation does not even show a CPU % on my fairly modest VM. I pretty much am running 15.04 beta with defaults. | 14:16 |
BluesKaj | I don't see it my laptop with the same circumstances, it could be anomolous to this older pc and gpu | 14:16 |
BluesKaj | on my laptop | 14:16 |
Sho_ | well it must be busylooping doing something | 14:17 |
soee | BluesKaj: and if you exit from some chatrooms ? | 14:17 |
BluesKaj | when I exit from the chat's I listed above the cpu usage drops to normal, 3-10% | 14:18 |
BluesKaj | for example #kubuntu-offtopic runs at about 5% | 14:19 |
soee | BluesKaj: and if you stay on #kubuntu and #kubunt-devel and exit only ##linux ? test one by one, maybe it is relatet to single chatroom ? | 14:21 |
BluesKaj | doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this effect , but all 3 chats I listed above behave in a similar manner, and any other chats so far are normal | 14:23 |
BluesKaj | no soee it's all 3 , already checked that out | 14:24 |
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BluesKaj | interesting, suddenly all chats are at normal 5% ave usage ...yes! | 16:01 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: What changed? | 16:04 |
BluesKaj | good question lordievader, it could ahve been the small upfrade, but not sure...didn't really look at it | 16:08 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: Apt has a history log. | 16:08 |
BluesKaj | yeah lemme check | 16:09 |
BluesKaj | lordievader, looks like it stopped right after I installed pastebinit, the prvious upghrade at 8:25AM didn't do anything because the conditions were still the same up until the pastebinit install,...go figure :) | 16:14 |
BluesKaj | anyway my cpu is happy now :) | 16:15 |
lordievader | That just makes things stranger, what does pastebinit have to do with irc... | 16:15 |
lordievader | That is good though. | 16:15 |
BluesKaj | lordievader, starnge and probly just coincidental | 16:15 |
BluesKaj | ok , time to go push some snow ....BBL | 16:16 |
sitter | ScottK: shouldn't issues like https://lintian.debian.org/tags/license-problem-cc-by-nc-sa.html result in exclusion from archive or dfsging? | 16:24 |
sitter | Riddell, ScottK: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344839 | 16:29 |
ubottu | KDE bug 344839 in general "khangman_winter.svg cc-by-nc-sa" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 16:29 |
Riddell | ach that's just lintian being annoying | 16:30 |
Riddell | inkscape will often add that cc-by-nc notice even when it's not true | 16:30 |
Riddell | and lintian has begun to notice | 16:30 |
Riddell | it can be removed no problem | 16:30 |
sitter | yeah, well, even if inkscape autoadds it. the file is saying it is cc-by-nc-sa so it is ;) | 16:31 |
Riddell | it's not we can reasonably remove it, I'll do it in a sec if you like | 16:32 |
sitter | would be lovely | 16:32 |
sitter | notes.kde hates me >.< | 16:39 |
Riddell | khangman .svg fixed | 16:54 |
sitter | Riddell: <3 | 16:56 |
sitter | Riddell: now you just need to fix the muon version and I am happy :P | 16:57 |
Riddell | sitter: I'm on it | 16:57 |
sitter | ok | 16:57 |
sitter | so much red on ci again brrr | 17:01 |
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shadeslayer | ScottK: congrats btw! :D | 17:21 |
shadeslayer | cyphermox: you too! | 17:21 |
_Groo_ | Riddell: ping | 18:40 |
_Groo_ | anyone have any old/new visio (vsd) doc lying around? | 18:41 |
_Groo_ | calligra flow is refusing to open visio files with the error: flow(8526)/koffice (lib komain): ERROR: No maindoc.xml | 18:42 |
_Groo_ | is the filter talking about a xml file he cant find inside the vsd container, or a missing xml from the packaging? | 18:43 |
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genii | _Groo_: There's some practice ones from OReilly here in a zipfile: http://examples.oreilly.com/9780735669468-files/ | 18:51 |
ronnoc | hi all. any reason kamoso is not available in Vivid? | 19:21 |
yofel | Deleted on 2014-11-04 by Jonathan Riddell | 19:23 |
yofel | uses old qt-gstreamer, remove until new version is out | 19:23 |
yofel | ronnoc: ^ | 19:23 |
alket | yofel: did you get my crash on dolphin ? | 19:23 |
ronnoc | ahh thx yofel. what would eb the reccomended (temporary) replacement? cheese? | 19:23 |
yofel | possibly, I'm not really familiar with camera apps | 19:24 |
yofel | alket: saw it, but I don't really have a good idea where to go from there :/ | 19:25 |
alket | could it have been nvidia from xorg edgers ? | 19:26 |
yofel | maaaaybe. It does look X related, but I forgot how to debug X errors -.- | 19:26 |
yofel | ah | 19:27 |
yofel | alket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/XError | 19:27 |
alket | also dolphin doesn't save "Add to places" | 19:28 |
alket | thanks | 19:28 |
genii | ronnoc: I usually just stream to VLC and then use it's snapshot feature | 19:29 |
yofel | alket: please file a bug about that | 19:29 |
alket | but I need someone to confirm first | 19:29 |
yofel | sorry, can't really log out right now | 19:31 |
alket | can someone confirm this ? | 19:35 |
ronnoc | alket: yofel: Just confirmed the above bug on 15.04 re: Dolphin and Places | 20:13 |
ronnoc | anything manually put in Places is gone once Dolphin is closed. | 20:13 |
soee | ronnoc: this is somehow random tbh | 20:14 |
soee | i had it a lot but from sme time all items i put there stays where they should | 20:15 |
soee | yofel: you are running pc with nvidia card ? | 20:21 |
soee | and maybe using propriety driver ? | 20:21 |
yofel | soee: yes, with 340.76 | 20:22 |
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soee | yofel: and are you using lightdm ? | 20:24 |
yofel | sddm | 20:24 |
soee | i wonder if lightdm willl stay as dependency for nvidia drivers | 20:24 |
yofel | of nvidia-prime? Probably yes, that depends on some DM that supports it | 20:25 |
ronnoc | soee: I was just confirming the bug on my system originally raised by alket | 20:26 |
BluesKaj | using sddm here without any ill effects | 20:26 |
soee | ah so it might be nvidia-prime :/ | 20:28 |
soee | even worse scenario | 20:28 |
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BluesKaj | i tried installing nvidi-331 after the 15.04 beta install and apt automatically chose the nvidia-340-driver instead | 20:32 |
soee | isn 346 defult in vivid now ? | 20:33 |
BluesKaj | not default , but not for my 8400GS | 20:34 |
BluesKaj | the 340 is obviously the default for lower end cards | 20:35 |
soee | ah right | 20:35 |
BluesKaj | and the driver manager in syssettings doesn't liat any drivers, it just stops | 20:37 |
BluesKaj | list | 20:37 |
alket | ronnoc: thanks | 20:38 |
yofel | soee: why worse? nvidia-prime depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm. Feel free to file a bug about that, but wasn't there an issue with sddm lacking hooks? | 20:41 |
BluesKaj | yofel, lacking hooks? can you expalin ? | 20:47 |
yofel | not really, this was quite q while ago. IIRC there was something about prime setting scripts to run at DM start or so and there being no way to do this for sddm | 20:52 |
yofel | looking right now, prime doesn't seem to do that though, so maybe they changed that | 20:53 |
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soee | hmm | 20:55 |
yofel | on another look, even the current dep is wrong, because /etc/init/nvidia-prime.conf only runs with lightdm | 20:56 |
yofel | and there's no systemd service file :/ | 20:57 |
Quintasan | nvidia-prime is generally crap | 20:58 |
soee | who should i call to somehow fix this nvidia-prime sddm issue | 20:58 |
_Groo_ | the practice files for visio dont open in flow 2.9 | 20:58 |
soee | Quintasan: it worked pretty nice in 14.10 | 20:59 |
Quintasan | on my t430 prime-select query says it's none | 20:59 |
Quintasan | So yeah, no gfx card is in use, pretty brilliant. | 20:59 |
yofel | soee: file a bug against nvidia-prime that it needs sddm support, then poke someone to milestone that for vivid so it's on the todo list | 21:00 |
Quintasan | nvidia-prime has /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-nvidia.conf | 21:01 |
Quintasan | so I think that sddm needs some sort of hook feature for that | 21:01 |
soee | i have already reported this some time ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1412057 | 21:01 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1412057 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "nvidia-prime 0.7 does not work as expected in 15.04" [High,Confirmed] | 21:01 |
Quintasan | soee: If it's a problem with nvidia driver then we can't really do anything about it | 21:04 |
soee | someone can confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328 ? | 21:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1428328 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "nvidia-prime needs sddm support" [Undecided,New] | 21:11 |
shadeslayer | soee: done | 21:37 |
soee | shadeslayer: thank you | 21:41 |
keithzg | Any ideas on how to check if a URL returns a 404 error in javascript in a plasmoid? Noticed yesterday that my comics plugin for Pooch Cafe outright *crashes Plasma* these days in 4.13.3, at least on 14.04, whereas it didn't use to be a problem (I had, many years ago, just slavishly copied another plugin). | 22:17 |
keithzg | Asked in #plasma when my first attempt at a solution (checking for a 404 status by using XMLHttpRequest) failed, but haven't gotten any reply. | 22:19 |
sgclark | soee: marked affects me as well | 22:28 |
soee | sgclark: thanks, lets hope we can get it fixed before vivid release | 22:38 |
sgclark | hope so | 22:51 |
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