[00:59] <keithzg> Well damn, the Pooch Cafe comic strip plasmoid plugin in now crashing plasma (4, on 14.04) if I just blindly hit "back" and run into a day where there isn't a strip. Considering the author of that plugin is *me*, I hope I still have my freedesktop.org login, heh.
[07:33] <soee> good morning
[08:01] <alket> good morning
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:05] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hey soee ...still have this cpu running one core at 100% on this chat ...this is really strange that indivivdual chatrooms affect the cpu load.
[14:08] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Does this single chatroom trigger that, or are there more chatrooms?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> #kubuntu, #kubuntu-devel, and ##linux
[14:11] <lordievader> Hmm, not really obvious what could trigger this. Perhaps time for a new irc client?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> lordievader, this is konversation beta on 15.04 beta ..one expects a few problems but this is unusual 
[14:14] <soee> BluesKaj: have no such problem on my laptop or here @ my work pc
[14:14] <BluesKaj> soee, on konversation?
[14:14] <soee> BluesKaj: yes
[14:15] <Sho_> I've not seen it yet either sadly (Konversation maintainer here)
[14:16] <mparillo> If I look at System Activity (ctrl esc) konversation does not even show a CPU % on my fairly modest VM. I pretty much am running 15.04 beta with defaults.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> I don't see it my laptop with the same circumstances, it could be anomolous to this older pc and gpu 
[14:16] <BluesKaj> on my laptop 
[14:17] <Sho_> well it must be busylooping doing something
[14:17] <soee> BluesKaj: and if you exit from some chatrooms ?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> when I exit from the chat's I listed above the cpu usage drops to normal, 3-10%
[14:19] <BluesKaj> for example #kubuntu-offtopic runs at about 5%
[14:21] <soee> BluesKaj: and if you stay on #kubuntu and #kubunt-devel and exit only ##linux ? test one by one, maybe it is relatet to single chatroom ?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this effect , but all 3 chats I listed above behave in a similar manner, and any other chats so far are normal
[14:24] <BluesKaj> no soee it's all 3 , already checked that out 
[16:01] <BluesKaj> interesting, suddenly all chats are at normal 5% ave usage ...yes!
[16:04] <lordievader> BluesKaj: What changed?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> good question lordievader, it could ahve been the small upfrade, but not sure...didn't really look at it
[16:08] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Apt has a history log.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> yeah lemme check
[16:14] <BluesKaj> lordievader, looks like it stopped right after I installed pastebinit, the prvious upghrade at 8:25AM didn't do anything because the conditions were still the same up until the pastebinit install,...go figure :)
[16:15] <BluesKaj> anyway my cpu is happy now :)
[16:15] <lordievader> That just makes things stranger, what does pastebinit have to do with irc...
[16:15] <lordievader> That is good though.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> lordievader, starnge and probly just coincidental
[16:16] <BluesKaj> ok , time to go push some snow ....BBL
[16:24] <sitter> ScottK: shouldn't issues like https://lintian.debian.org/tags/license-problem-cc-by-nc-sa.html result in exclusion from archive or dfsging?
[16:29] <sitter> Riddell, ScottK: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344839
[16:30] <Riddell> ach that's just lintian being annoying
[16:30] <Riddell> inkscape will often add that cc-by-nc notice even when it's not true
[16:30] <Riddell> and lintian has begun to notice
[16:30] <Riddell> it can be removed no problem
[16:31] <sitter> yeah, well, even if inkscape autoadds it. the file is saying it is cc-by-nc-sa so it is ;)
[16:32] <Riddell> it's not we can reasonably remove it, I'll do it in a sec if you like
[16:32] <sitter> would be lovely
[16:39] <sitter> notes.kde hates me >.<
[16:54] <Riddell> khangman .svg fixed
[16:56] <sitter> Riddell: <3
[16:57] <sitter> Riddell: now you just need to fix the muon version and I am happy :P
[16:57] <Riddell> sitter: I'm on it
[16:57] <sitter> ok
[17:01] <sitter> so much red on ci again brrr
[17:01]  * sitter out
[17:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: congrats btw! :D
[17:21] <shadeslayer> cyphermox: you too!
[18:40] <_Groo_> Riddell: ping
[18:41] <_Groo_> anyone have any old/new visio (vsd) doc lying around?
[18:42] <_Groo_> calligra flow is refusing to open visio files with the error: flow(8526)/koffice (lib komain): ERROR: No maindoc.xml
[18:43] <_Groo_> is the filter talking about a xml file he cant find inside the vsd container, or a missing xml from the packaging?
[18:51] <genii> _Groo_: There's some practice ones from OReilly here in a zipfile: http://examples.oreilly.com/9780735669468-files/
[19:21] <ronnoc> hi all. any reason kamoso is not available in Vivid?
[19:23] <yofel> Deleted on 2014-11-04 by Jonathan Riddell
[19:23] <yofel> uses old qt-gstreamer, remove until new version is out
[19:23] <yofel> ronnoc: ^
[19:23] <alket> yofel: did you get my crash on dolphin ?
[19:23] <ronnoc> ahh thx yofel. what would eb the reccomended (temporary) replacement? cheese?
[19:24] <yofel> possibly, I'm not really familiar with camera apps
[19:25] <yofel> alket: saw it, but I don't really have a good idea where to go from there :/
[19:26] <alket> could it have been nvidia from xorg edgers ?
[19:26] <yofel> maaaaybe. It does look X related, but I forgot how to debug X errors -.-
[19:27] <yofel> ah
[19:27] <yofel> alket: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/XError
[19:28] <alket> also dolphin doesn't save "Add to places"
[19:28] <alket> thanks
[19:29] <genii> ronnoc: I usually just stream to VLC and then use it's snapshot feature
[19:29] <yofel> alket: please file a bug about that
[19:29] <alket> but I need someone to confirm first
[19:31] <yofel> sorry, can't really log out right now
[19:35] <alket> can someone confirm this ?
[20:13] <ronnoc> alket: yofel: Just confirmed the above bug on 15.04 re: Dolphin and Places
[20:13] <ronnoc> anything manually put in Places is gone once Dolphin is closed.
[20:14] <soee> ronnoc: this is somehow random tbh
[20:15] <soee> i had it a lot but from sme time all items i put there stays where they should
[20:21] <soee> yofel: you are running pc with nvidia card ?
[20:21] <soee> and maybe using propriety driver ?
[20:22] <yofel> soee: yes, with 340.76
[20:24] <soee> yofel: and are you using lightdm ?
[20:24] <yofel> sddm
[20:24] <soee> i wonder if lightdm willl stay as dependency for nvidia drivers
[20:25] <yofel> of nvidia-prime? Probably yes, that depends on some DM that supports it
[20:26] <ronnoc> soee: I was just confirming the bug on my system originally raised by alket
[20:26] <BluesKaj> using sddm here without any ill effects
[20:28] <soee> ah so it might be nvidia-prime :/
[20:28] <soee> even worse scenario
[20:32] <BluesKaj> i tried installing nvidi-331 after the 15.04 beta install and apt automatically chose the nvidia-340-driver instead
[20:33] <soee> isn 346 defult in vivid now ?
[20:34] <BluesKaj> not default , but not for my 8400GS 
[20:35] <BluesKaj> the 340 is obviously the default for lower end cards
[20:35] <soee> ah right
[20:37] <BluesKaj> and the driver manager in syssettings doesn't liat any drivers, it just stops
[20:37] <BluesKaj> list
[20:38] <alket> ronnoc: thanks
[20:41] <yofel> soee: why worse? nvidia-prime depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm. Feel free to file a bug about that, but wasn't there an issue with sddm lacking hooks?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> yofel, lacking hooks? can you expalin ?
[20:52] <yofel> not really, this was quite q while ago. IIRC there was something about prime setting scripts to run at DM start or so and there being no way to do this for sddm
[20:53] <yofel> looking right now, prime doesn't seem to do that though, so maybe they changed that
[20:53]  * BluesKaj nods
[20:55] <soee> hmm
[20:56] <yofel> on another look, even the current dep is wrong, because /etc/init/nvidia-prime.conf only runs with lightdm
[20:57] <yofel> and there's no systemd service file :/
[20:58] <Quintasan> nvidia-prime is generally crap
[20:58] <soee> who should i call to somehow fix this nvidia-prime sddm issue
[20:58] <_Groo_> the practice files for visio dont open in flow 2.9
[20:59] <soee> Quintasan: it worked pretty nice in 14.10
[20:59] <Quintasan> on my t430 prime-select query says it's none
[20:59] <Quintasan> So yeah, no gfx card is in use, pretty brilliant.
[21:00] <yofel> soee: file a bug against nvidia-prime that it needs sddm support, then poke someone to milestone that for vivid so it's on the todo list 
[21:01] <Quintasan> nvidia-prime has /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-nvidia.conf
[21:01] <Quintasan> so I think that sddm needs some sort of hook feature for that
[21:01] <soee> i have already reported this some time ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1412057
[21:04] <Quintasan> soee: If it's a problem with nvidia driver then we can't really do anything about it
[21:11] <soee> someone can confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328 ?
[21:37] <shadeslayer> soee: done
[21:41] <soee> shadeslayer: thank you
[22:17] <keithzg> Any ideas on how to check if a URL returns a 404 error in javascript in a plasmoid? Noticed yesterday that my comics plugin for Pooch Cafe outright *crashes Plasma* these days in 4.13.3, at least on 14.04, whereas it didn't use to be a problem (I had, many years ago, just slavishly copied another plugin).
[22:19] <keithzg> Asked in #plasma when my first attempt at a solution (checking  for a 404 status by using XMLHttpRequest) failed, but haven't gotten any reply.
[22:28] <sgclark> soee: marked affects me as well
[22:38] <soee> sgclark: thanks, lets hope we can get it fixed before vivid release
[22:51] <sgclark> hope so