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vijay13-tmpkeithzg: it says total 400:00
geniivijay13-tmp: The usual solution is boot into recovery mode, mount the system read-write, and recursively change the permissions in your home directory to belong to you00:00
keithzgvijay13-tmp: surely it says more than just that? See for example: https://paste.kde.org/pmkaufu6i00:01
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: yeah its saying : drwxr-xr-x 15 vijay13 vijay13 4096 Mar 4 )5:15 vijay1300:03
keithzgvijay13-tmp: That *looks* fine. And you're still able to log into a session in a VT just fine?00:03
geniivijay13-tmp: I would recommend to do: sudo apt-get install pastebinit    ...so that you have a text pastebin app to dump things to so we could see the command results00:04
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: yes i can login into VT00:04
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: pastbinit installed00:06
keithzgvijay13-tmp: You could try running "chown -R vijay13:vijay13 /home/vijay13" to ensure everything in your home folder does indeed belong to you (that should be a safe command to run, unless I'm forgetting something obvious).00:08
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keithzgErr, might have to throw a sudo in front of that, in case.00:09
keithzgAnd might as well pipe it to pastebinit in case you do get errors.00:09
geniivijay13-tmp: I agree with keithzg's advice on this, to make sure everything there has the proper ownership. Often it can belong to root for instance if some sudo things were run there00:10
keithzgso, "sudo chown -R vijay13:vijay13 /home/vijay13 | pastebinit"00:10
vijay13-tmphow can i pastbin it ? because it is saying operation not permitted for many files00:10
keithzgJust the pipe should be all you need, "sudo chown -R vijay13:vijay13 /home/vijay13 | pastebinit"00:11
keithzgthe crucial part there is the last bit, "| pastebinit", which tells the terminal to send output to that command.00:11
keithzgDid you run that without the sudo, then? Might be worth running that indeed again without sudo and piping it to pastebinit so we can see what you don't have permissions to.00:12
* genii makes more coffee00:17
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: actually it was saying you are trying to send empty document00:18
vijay13-tmpand my teminal is flooded with failed to load graphic some intel think00:18
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: so i am now in recoverymode->root terminal00:18
keithzgHmmm.00:19
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: shall i "Drop to root shell promt "00:19
vijay13-tmp? :(00:19
keithzgWell, from recovery mode you're going to have a hard time actually starting an X session anyways.00:19
keithzgBack up a bit.00:19
keithzgHow *precisely* did you get to recovery mode?00:20
keithzgIntel drivers seemingly crashed, and so you rebooted, I take it?00:20
vijay13-tmpon boot menu -> advance option for ubuntu -> recovery mode00:20
keithzgOkay, so it was a choice?00:20
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: yes00:20
keithzgI'd probably drop to a root shell with networking, and then install something like openbox.00:21
keithzgThen reboot to a normal session, and try selecting that and logging into it from lightdm instead of plasma.00:21
keithzgThat should help us diagnose what exactly is going wrong, by seeing what else still works (or not, as it might be).00:22
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: while trying to install openbox it says "not using locking for read only lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"00:23
vijay13-tmpin root shell promt00:23
keithzgAh, you need to remount / as read-write00:23
keithzg"sudo mount -o remount,rw /" I believe00:24
vijay13-tmpdo i include , ?00:25
keithzgYup.00:26
keithzgIt's a list of options00:26
vijay13-tmpit should automatically reboot or i should do it manually00:26
keithzg-o means "I have some options to tell you, mount!" and then "remount,rw" is the short list of two options.00:26
keithzgDon't reboot after you remount.00:26
vijay13-tmpoh okay :D00:26
keithzgNow you can install openbox.00:26
keithzg(because the root partition won't be read-only)00:27
keithzg*then* you can reboot (although frankly you should be able to install it after you reboot anyways, but whatever, heh)00:27
vijay13-tmp*installing00:29
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: okay openbox installed and i am on root shell00:31
keithzgvijay13-tmp: I'd just try rebooting, and then in the lightdm login prompt selecting "openbox" as your session and seeing if that allows you to log in.00:32
* keithzg isn't a big coffee person, goes off to make some tea00:33
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: yeah logged in with openbox00:33
keithzgvijay13-tmp: Okay, so the problem is somehow with lightdm+plasma5. Hmm.00:34
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: can't see anything on screen except that i can access my yakuake terminal00:34
keithzgvijay13-tmp: By default Openbox doesn't *have* anything on the screen ;)00:35
vijay13-tmp:D oh okay i was expecting much ;-)00:35
keithzgIt's very barebones, takes manual config to add much of anything to it (which is exactly why I suggested trying it, since if *anything* will work then openbox will)00:35
geniiMaybe mv your .kde to something like .oldkde and try login again00:37
jpwhitinggenii: hmm, power plug/unplug doesn't seem to help either :/00:39
geniijpwhiting: I'm out of immediate ideas on it then. Best to file a bug on launchpad for it.00:40
valoriein plasma 5, .kde doesn't have much to do with anything though00:40
valorieI mean, ~/.kde00:40
jpwhitingyep, everything is under ~/.config now00:40
geniivalorie: Oh! Didn't know that00:40
vijay13-tmpkeithzg: what should i choose openbox or plasma ?00:40
jpwhitingexcept for older kdelibs4/qt4 using applications00:40
* genii makes notes in his scribbly-book00:40
valorieright00:40
geniiInteresting00:40
valorieolder/unported apps might still use it00:40
keithzgYeah that's one of those changes I'm of two minds about. On the one hand, standards, yay! On the other hand, it was always so convenient, when things went really wrong, to just rename the .kde folder.00:46
keithzgI'm sure it's for the best, though, especially for the conceptualization of KDE apps outside of Plasma sessions.00:46
keithzgKnowing that that cool torrent app you're using as an Xubuntu user happens to have its config files buried in .kde is a level of arcane knowledge it's probably best not to insist users gain.00:47
valorieyep00:53
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Guest8640hey everyone01:08
Guest8640I'm having a bit of an issue with xrandr. I just installed Kubuntu and I can't force the resolution 1680x1050 (monitor native resolution)01:09
Guest8640does anyone have any experience with xrandr?01:09
jpwhitingGuest8640: what does xrandr with no arguments say the possible resolutions are ?01:09
jpwhitingyes, lots :)01:09
Guest8640Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VGA-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm    1024x768       60.0*+    1360x768       60.0     59.8      1152x864       60.0      800x600        72.2     60.3     56.2      680x384        60.0     59.8      640x480        59.9      512x384        60.0     01:10
Guest8640ok... basically:01:10
jpwhiting1024x768 and lower :/01:10
jpwhitingprobably not detecting your hardware correctly then01:10
OerHeks1360x768  *01:10
Guest86401360x768 and lower01:10
jpwhitingah, right01:10
Guest8640it's using the nvidia hardware driver01:11
Guest8640i tried both the latest and an older01:11
Guest8640issue didn't help01:11
Guest8640i tried using --newmode and -addmode01:11
Guest86402 issues, it adds it to DVI-101:11
Guest8640and if I try to put it on VGA-0 it bugs saying that it's a "BadMatch"01:12
jpwhitingdid you try with --output VGA-0 in there ?01:12
jpwhitingah :/01:12
Guest8640i'll do again the cvt for 1680 by 105001:12
jpwhitingare you sure the vga port can do that high of resolution, with your nvidia card01:12
Guest8640it works in Windows01:12
jpwhitingI would think it could, but no idea01:12
jpwhitingah, yeah, sholud then01:12
jpwhiting*should01:13
Guest8640if i do "cvt 1680 1050 60" it says "Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync"01:14
jpwhitingand xrandr --output VGA-0 --addmode 1680x1050 fails ?01:14
jpwhitingerm, xrandr --newmode 1680x1050 blah rather01:16
Guest8640yeah01:16
Guest8640i just did --newmode which worked01:16
Guest8640and -addmode which failed01:16
Guest8640X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)   Minor opcode of failed request:  18 (RRAddOutputMode)   Serial number of failed request:  29   Current serial number in output stream:  3001:16
jpwhiting--addmode VGA-0 1680x105001:16
jpwhiting:/01:17
jpwhitinganything in your /var/log/X.org.0.log with EE or WW lines ?01:17
Guest8640xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050_60.00   AND xrandr --output VGA-0 --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050_60.0001:17
geniitwo dash in front of addmode01:17
jpwhitingerm, Xorg.0.log01:17
Guest8640ofcourse genii01:17
Guest8640lemme look01:18
jpwhitinggenii: heh, now it's sleeping and not waking even with power connected :/01:18
jpwhitingugh01:18
geniijpwhiting: Best advice is still to file a bug against it. It will get the proper attention then.01:19
jpwhitinggenii: yeah, probably01:19
jpwhitingok01:19
Guest8640Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-101:21
Guest8640that's a warning that keeps popping up01:21
jpwhitingerm, I'm signed in, but don't see any "file a new bug" on bugs.launchpad.net :/01:21
jpwhitingeven after searching which I expected would say, ok no results, file a new one01:22
Guest8640so, no errors just a warning01:22
Guest8640i'm considering something i heard of :a Envy driver01:22
jpwhitinghttps://help.launchpad.net/Bugs has nothing about "file a new bug" either01:26
jpwhitinghow useless is launchpad :/01:26
valorie`ubuntu-bug packagename` in the cli is best01:26
valorieit makes launchpad useful01:26
valorie:-)01:27
valoriejpwhiting: can I help you over here figure out the proper packagename?01:32
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jpwhitingwell, this is a very old machine, 2007-2008 macbook, probably not worth the fuss tbh01:33
jpwhitingI'll just run linux in a virtualbox or something on it instead probably01:33
jpwhitingrather than trying to dual boot01:33
jpwhitingI was hoping this would work out well, but failure to wake from sleep is a blocker01:35
jpwhitingno worries01:35
valorieok01:35
jpwhitingwork out well == breathe new life into this aging machine :)01:35
valorieright01:36
Guest8640so any ideas for my issue jpwhiting ?01:44
kaidelongI'm using Intel HD 4000 graphics on Kubuntu 14.04 LTS. Firefox crashes so frequently as to be completely unusable. It runs for a few seconds before failing. Wondering if I need a new version of firefox?02:00
Coffee-PotAny of ya'll know if this was ever ported to the linux world?  ( http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php ) and if not can anyone point me to an package for Kubuntu that is "like" ventrillo?02:44
VolUTFanI was switching from quassel to konversation to try it out.  Blueskaj seemed to like it.  Somehow an extra nick Coffee-Pot was logged in instead of mine.  I was asking about the ventrillo client app for Kubuntu or a "like" client02:48
VolUTFan!topic ventrillo02:56
VolUTFanI think I found what I was looking for03:13
VolUTFan!topic mangler03:14
valorie?03:14
valorieare you looking for03:14
valorie!info mangler03:14
ubottumangler (source: mangler): Ventrilo compatible client for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-2 (utopic), package size 533 kB, installed size 2036 kB03:14
VolUTFanoh lol, im still learning03:14
VolUTFanyep that was it03:14
valorietopic would be about the /topic03:15
VolUTFangimmie an example of topic03:15
VolUTFanso I will know03:15
valorietry /topic in a blank line03:15
valorieand see03:15
valoriein this chan you need ops to change the topic I think03:15
VolUTFanoh, it just puts the banner on the screen so I can see it03:15
valoriethe banner?03:16
VolUTFangotcha03:16
VolUTFanyea, banner being the login notification telling you where you are, and information when you first join the channel03:16
VolUTFanits kinda like the equivelant of logging into an FTP server and getting a informational paragraph about what system your on and any contact information etc..03:17
valorieoh, I see all that in the server tab03:17
valorienot every channel bothers with a topic, but all the organized help chans do03:18
VolUTFanin konversation is basically shows all that stuff at the very top of the screen anyhow03:18
valorieright03:18
valorienot everyone uses a gui client for IRC03:18
valoriesince IRC predates guis by many years03:18
VolUTFanBluesKaj uses konversation, and I was using quassel.  I thought maybe I would give konversation a spin and see how I like it03:19
valorieand some prefer irssi, etc.03:19
valorie<3 konvi03:19
VolUTFani don't think I ever remember using irc on terminal03:19
valorieI never warmed to quassel03:19
VolUTFangood news tho.  I got something like 5 bug reports put in for vivid03:20
VolUTFanit took me about 45 minutes to find 5 bugs03:20
VolUTFanlol03:20
valoriecool, thanks for writing up the bug reports03:21
VolUTFannp at all03:22
VolUTFanI am one of those types of people that hate repetative stuff.  I have been working on a shell script to automatically install packages that I use.  In case my system blows up for whatever reason, or I install a new version in a vbox, what I can do is run that script and it auto adds the repo keys, updates and goes line by line adding apps.03:23
VolUTFanits smoking fast considering I have a complete mirror of repos here locally.  I mirrored every repo I use to my local apt-mirror now03:24
valorievery nice03:26
valorieyou sound like a sysadmin03:26
VolUTFanlets bump over to the offtopic03:27
valorieyep03:28
r_riosHello. Help. I'm running Kubuntu Plasma 5 on a VM and the lock screen showed up, but, since I'm running the guest session, the account has no password. But just cliking unlock doesn't unlock. Meanwhile, the installer is running in the background. What do?03:47
valoriedoes hitting return work?03:47
r_riosNope03:52
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r_riosI just restarted the session03:55
r_riosHopefully, that won't happen again03:55
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VolUTFananyone around?05:38
valorieyes, but....05:39
valoriedrives me nuts when people ask that in a support chan05:40
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VolUTFanfigured someone might be asleep lol05:44
VolUTFani figured it out, was trying to figure out how to corespond numbers to days of week.  I figured out 7=sun05:45
VolUTFanI was getting ready to crash out for the night.  I am dead tired.  Brain is poofed05:46
valoriethere are people here 24/7, although there are slow spots05:47
valorienot even 10pm here05:47
valorieand i'm a nightowl05:47
valoriebut for sure the europeans are sleeping05:47
Tm_Thu?05:48
Tm_Teuropeans are working05:49
valorieoops, I've not set up my clock to show me UT yet05:49
valoriesheesh05:49
Tm_Tat least this eastern european is (=05:49
Tm_TUTC is 0550 atm05:50
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soeegood morning07:33
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lordievaderGood morning.08:21
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cainehi10:51
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blazehello12:26
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Guest69410hello12:27
lordievadero/12:27
Guest69410how to include this repository in software sources -> https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily12:28
Guest69410?12:29
Guest69410I ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily"12:30
Guest69410should i just use sudo apt-get install vlc to get nightly builds?12:30
hardik_7Hi anyone know how to install modem like tata docomo e177 in kubuntu12:31
hardik_7i tier lsusb and it shows the device plese help its urgent12:31
hardik_7:)12:31
lordievaderGuest69410: Depends on the ppa, but update your sources first ;)12:32
Guest69410can you see this and tell me? --- https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily12:32
Guest69410;)12:32
Guest69410;)12:32
Guest69410updating....12:33
Guest69410I read somewhere that "sudo apt-get install vlc-nox" should be used12:34
lordievaderGuest69410: Supposing 3.0.0~git<blabla> is the development/nightly all you need to do is 'sudo apt-get install vlc'12:34
lordievadervlc-nox is not in that ppa.12:34
Guest69410Thank you!12:34
Guest69410ok12:34
Guest69410How to reply to a particular user in IRC? When I double click a seperate tab is opening!12:35
lordievaderGuest69410: Type their nick.12:38
Guest69410lordievader: Like this?!12:38
Guest69410lordievader Like this?!12:39
Guest69410<lordievader> Theere times the charm!12:39
lordievaderGuest69410: Yes, like that...12:41
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Guest69410lordievader: Got it! :)12:43
monkeyjuiceGuest69410: you just need to change your nick and you'll be rocking12:45
Guest69410nick blaze12:46
monkeyjuice try /nick12:46
Guest69410test12:46
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blazztada!12:46
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blazzmonkeyjuice: :)12:47
* monkeyjuice likes it12:47
blazzmonkeyjuice: How to do that!?12:48
monkeyjuiceplace /me first then type like its you12:48
* blazz gets it!12:49
blazzB-)12:50
monkeyjuiceneed to register your nick now12:50
blazzhow to do that?12:51
monkeyjuice  /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com12:51
monkeyjuicesorry12:51
blazz?12:52
monkeyjuicei messed up the first time guess you can see it ;)12:52
blazzmonkeyjuice: No I can't. When I type mistake they are dissapearing!12:53
blazzfoo@bar.com -> I guess kubuntu figures some where in there but what is the other freenode?12:56
blazzfreenode@kubuntu?12:56
monkeyjuiceits your email address12:56
blazzok12:56
blazz:P12:56
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monkeyjuice /msg NickServ help REGISTER12:57
blazzmonkeyjuice: thank you!12:57
blazzAn email containing nickname activation instructions has been sent to <email>12:59
blazzmonkeyjuice: :)12:59
monkeyjuicewell done blazz12:59
monkeyjuicedo you have #kubuntu-offtopic13:00
monkeyjuiceif not add it13:00
* blazz B-)13:00
amichairis KDE 4.14.3 available in any of the kubuntu ppas?13:15
BluesKajHiyas all13:22
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{shaman}nice, kde 14/plasma 5 are finally working on this box... seems quick and pleasant17:00
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MoonUnit`any ideas why plasma 5 keeps locking my screen after 5 minutes of no activity, have it set to 30 minutes in power saving.17:35
mparilloMoonUnit`: Desktop Behavior > Screen Locking?17:38
MoonUnit`aha, many thanks.. why isn't that in power management?17:39
mparilloSome consider screen locking a security thing instead of a power-saving thing, I guess.17:51
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afiefhMoonUnit`, does locking the screen save power? It still shows an image. At big software companies screen locking is always used for security18:54
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MoonUnit`i guess my thinking was how i had kde setup before plasma5, where i set xset to turn the screen off when the lock screen was enabled.19:12
MoonUnit`seems a waste of energy to leave the screen on while locked.19:22
nicofrandhi19:50
bpromptallo19:52
nicofrandUsing the kubuntu-ppa next & next-backports, I upgraded kubuntu 14.10 to plasma5 but now I have this error message (and crashes) : "couldn't create slave: "Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file'." while trying to change the wallpaper or when using Konversation with DCC19:53
nicofrandDoes anyone know how to fix it ? (everything on Google seems outdated or of no use)19:53
alkethow to get kde telepathy 0.9 on kubuntu 14.04 ?19:57
bpromptnicofrand:      hmmm offhand, I'd say konversation may be using an older lib20:02
bpromptnicofrand:     one spot to check, will be -> dpkg -s konversation;     to see if it shows any conflicts20:03
nicofrandbprompt: it might but this issue appears with several other apps and I can't change my wallpaper for example20:04
nicofrandbprompt: it does not prompt any conflict20:05
bpromptnicofrand:    usually it'd mean the upgrade didn't go well, and you have many orphan and widow files20:05
nicofrand:/20:06
nicofrandI had to switch to kubuntu-ci/stable ppa to be able to connect again yeah (5.2.1 bugfix was just a big mess and removed later but I upgraded while it was available)20:07
nicofrandI never should have tried to upgrade to plasma520:07
rberg_kde 4.0 never forget20:08
nicofrandI have a short memory. And it said they fixed the screensaver issue while watching a video in a browser, which convinced20:09
nicofrandme20:09
nicofrand(and indeed they fixed it but now it logs out automatically even if I disabled it in the configuration)20:10
bprompthmmm .4.0?   I 4.8.5  in 12.04, works fine20:10
bprompthm  shoot20:10
bprompthmmm .4.0?   I have 4.8.5  in 12.04, works fine20:10
bpromptI'm not saying they didn't fix this or that, it may well work fine, from a full install or a sucessful upgrade, but upgrades aren't always that smooth20:11
nicofrandyes, once again I upgraded to soon. But I wish I could just fix this particular (io-slave thingy) bug, even temporarly while waiting a fix20:13
bpromptdo a full install :)20:13
nicofrand:(20:15
nicofrandthe worst thing with this unstable release is that I can't even report the bug (cannot login ‑ login button disabled ‑ or not the rights to launch gdb, etc.) when something wrong happens20:16
bpromptbear in mind that you're addressing an "upgrade", and thus your upgrade process didn't go well, in this instance, that doesn't mean a full install doesn't work or has all those bugs20:19
nicofrandI know. But I prefer to report a bug when it happens, if possible. Even if it means closing it later when someone finds out it comes from the upgrade. Better check it than ignore it, right ?20:22
BluesKajnicofrand, is this strictly a plsama 5/KF5 upgrade or an upgrade to 15.04?20:23
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BluesKajer plasma 520:23
nicofrandplasma520:23
BluesKajok20:24
nicofrandplasma 5.2.1 especially :/20:24
nicofrand(https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67522-Upgrade-to-Plasma-5-2-1/)20:24
BluesKajwell, I prefer to do the whole OS release upgrade rather than just the desktop20:26
nicofrandI'm not that lucky with whole OS upgrades neither :-°20:27
claydohNot that it was ever promoted as such, but the plasma5 in 14.10 is more a try-it-out thing., imnsho upgrading to 15.04 is actually safer and more stable20:28
nicofrandOK. I'll think about it. I'll just sigh for the moment and watch Netflix :). Have a good night or day !20:32
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Dexx1_Hey guys -- one of our employees abrubptly left and refuses to give us the ROOT password to our kubuntu machine -- anyway to reset it or find the passworD?22:26
ikoniaboot it into single user or from a live media and reset the password22:27
bpromptDexx1_:      choice 1) threaten him with bodily harm   2) goad him back with Gelato ice-cream   3)  reset the password in a recovery session22:29
keithzgDexx1_: By default there isn't even a root password. If one has been set, though, bprompt, they won't be able to get into a recovery session, right? Since it'll prompt for the root password.22:30
keithzgBut as ikonia mentions just boot from a live media and reset from there (just chroot into the root partition once you've mounted it as read+write, then "passwd root"...or just modify the shadow file directly to have a blank password for root)22:30
* keithzg hasn't had to do that when he's locked himself out of a box accidentally, noooo, of course not . . .22:31
bpromptkeithzg:    right, it allows to reset the user's password, thus granting "su" access22:31
keithzgbprompt: Oh, that's available now? I know back in the day once you set a root password, you couldn't even get to the recovery options until you authenticated with it.22:32
keithzgBeen a while since I had to do that though (and in most situations when things are screwed up it ends up being easier for me to just chroot).22:33
bpromptkeithzg:     I know that's so in *ubuntu, not sure on others though, and yes, back in the days when I was in SuSE, you had to provide a root password, and then make a user account22:34
keithzgbprompt: Was definitely also the case in *buntu until recently-ish22:40
OerHeksNope, there has been no sudo pass in ubuntu atleast since 7.04, before that too AFAIK22:42
keithzgOerHeks: You misunderstand, there's been no *default* root password, talking here about what happens if you go ahead and set one manually.22:46
Dexx1_figured it out23:10
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feral_hedgehogSo... Aren't I supposed to be seing messages or something?23:36
claydohferal_hedgehog: ??23:36
feral_hedgehogWell, from what I've read about IRC on wikipedia, it's like an open chat thing. So I kinda expected people to... You know... Chat.23:38
claydohso---ask a question, someone may answer ;)23:38
feral_hedgehogGonna go read up some more and come back to you with what I'll find.23:38
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