[00:00] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: it says total 4
[00:00] <genii> vijay13-tmp: The usual solution is boot into recovery mode, mount the system read-write, and recursively change the permissions in your home directory to belong to you
[00:01] <keithzg> vijay13-tmp: surely it says more than just that? See for example: https://paste.kde.org/pmkaufu6i
[00:03] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: yeah its saying : drwxr-xr-x 15 vijay13 vijay13 4096 Mar 4 )5:15 vijay13
[00:03] <keithzg> vijay13-tmp: That *looks* fine. And you're still able to log into a session in a VT just fine?
[00:04] <genii> vijay13-tmp: I would recommend to do: sudo apt-get install pastebinit    ...so that you have a text pastebin app to dump things to so we could see the command results
[00:04] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: yes i can login into VT
[00:06] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: pastbinit installed
[00:08] <keithzg> vijay13-tmp: You could try running "chown -R vijay13:vijay13 /home/vijay13" to ensure everything in your home folder does indeed belong to you (that should be a safe command to run, unless I'm forgetting something obvious).
[00:09] <keithzg> Err, might have to throw a sudo in front of that, in case.
[00:09] <keithzg> And might as well pipe it to pastebinit in case you do get errors.
[00:10] <genii> vijay13-tmp: I agree with keithzg's advice on this, to make sure everything there has the proper ownership. Often it can belong to root for instance if some sudo things were run there
[00:10] <keithzg> so, "sudo chown -R vijay13:vijay13 /home/vijay13 | pastebinit"
[00:10] <vijay13-tmp> how can i pastbin it ? because it is saying operation not permitted for many files
[00:11] <keithzg> Just the pipe should be all you need, "sudo chown -R vijay13:vijay13 /home/vijay13 | pastebinit"
[00:11] <keithzg> the crucial part there is the last bit, "| pastebinit", which tells the terminal to send output to that command.
[00:12] <keithzg> Did you run that without the sudo, then? Might be worth running that indeed again without sudo and piping it to pastebinit so we can see what you don't have permissions to.
[00:17]  * genii makes more coffee
[00:18] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: actually it was saying you are trying to send empty document
[00:18] <vijay13-tmp> and my teminal is flooded with failed to load graphic some intel think
[00:18] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: so i am now in recoverymode->root terminal
[00:19] <keithzg> Hmmm.
[00:19] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: shall i "Drop to root shell promt "
[00:19] <vijay13-tmp> ? :(
[00:19] <keithzg> Well, from recovery mode you're going to have a hard time actually starting an X session anyways.
[00:19] <keithzg> Back up a bit.
[00:20] <keithzg> How *precisely* did you get to recovery mode?
[00:20] <keithzg> Intel drivers seemingly crashed, and so you rebooted, I take it?
[00:20] <vijay13-tmp> on boot menu -> advance option for ubuntu -> recovery mode
[00:20] <keithzg> Okay, so it was a choice?
[00:20] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: yes
[00:21] <keithzg> I'd probably drop to a root shell with networking, and then install something like openbox.
[00:21] <keithzg> Then reboot to a normal session, and try selecting that and logging into it from lightdm instead of plasma.
[00:22] <keithzg> That should help us diagnose what exactly is going wrong, by seeing what else still works (or not, as it might be).
[00:23] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: while trying to install openbox it says "not using locking for read only lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[00:23] <vijay13-tmp> in root shell promt
[00:23] <keithzg> Ah, you need to remount / as read-write
[00:24] <keithzg> "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" I believe
[00:25] <vijay13-tmp> do i include , ?
[00:26] <keithzg> Yup.
[00:26] <keithzg> It's a list of options
[00:26] <vijay13-tmp> it should automatically reboot or i should do it manually
[00:26] <keithzg> -o means "I have some options to tell you, mount!" and then "remount,rw" is the short list of two options.
[00:26] <keithzg> Don't reboot after you remount.
[00:26] <vijay13-tmp> oh okay :D
[00:26] <keithzg> Now you can install openbox.
[00:27] <keithzg> (because the root partition won't be read-only)
[00:27] <keithzg> *then* you can reboot (although frankly you should be able to install it after you reboot anyways, but whatever, heh)
[00:29] <vijay13-tmp> *installing
[00:31] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: okay openbox installed and i am on root shell
[00:32] <keithzg> vijay13-tmp: I'd just try rebooting, and then in the lightdm login prompt selecting "openbox" as your session and seeing if that allows you to log in.
[00:33]  * keithzg isn't a big coffee person, goes off to make some tea
[00:33] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: yeah logged in with openbox
[00:34] <keithzg> vijay13-tmp: Okay, so the problem is somehow with lightdm+plasma5. Hmm.
[00:34] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: can't see anything on screen except that i can access my yakuake terminal
[00:35] <keithzg> vijay13-tmp: By default Openbox doesn't *have* anything on the screen ;)
[00:35] <vijay13-tmp> :D oh okay i was expecting much ;-)
[00:35] <keithzg> It's very barebones, takes manual config to add much of anything to it (which is exactly why I suggested trying it, since if *anything* will work then openbox will)
[00:37] <genii> Maybe mv your .kde to something like .oldkde and try login again
[00:39] <jpwhiting> genii: hmm, power plug/unplug doesn't seem to help either :/
[00:40] <genii> jpwhiting: I'm out of immediate ideas on it then. Best to file a bug on launchpad for it.
[00:40] <valorie> in plasma 5, .kde doesn't have much to do with anything though
[00:40] <valorie> I mean, ~/.kde
[00:40] <jpwhiting> yep, everything is under ~/.config now
[00:40] <genii> valorie: Oh! Didn't know that
[00:40] <vijay13-tmp> keithzg: what should i choose openbox or plasma ?
[00:40] <jpwhiting> except for older kdelibs4/qt4 using applications
[00:40]  * genii makes notes in his scribbly-book
[00:40] <valorie> right
[00:40] <genii> Interesting
[00:40] <valorie> older/unported apps might still use it
[00:46] <keithzg> Yeah that's one of those changes I'm of two minds about. On the one hand, standards, yay! On the other hand, it was always so convenient, when things went really wrong, to just rename the .kde folder.
[00:46] <keithzg> I'm sure it's for the best, though, especially for the conceptualization of KDE apps outside of Plasma sessions.
[00:47] <keithzg> Knowing that that cool torrent app you're using as an Xubuntu user happens to have its config files buried in .kde is a level of arcane knowledge it's probably best not to insist users gain.
[00:53] <valorie> yep
[01:08] <Guest8640> hey everyone
[01:09] <Guest8640> I'm having a bit of an issue with xrandr. I just installed Kubuntu and I can't force the resolution 1680x1050 (monitor native resolution)
[01:09] <Guest8640> does anyone have any experience with xrandr?
[01:09] <jpwhiting> Guest8640: what does xrandr with no arguments say the possible resolutions are ?
[01:09] <jpwhiting> yes, lots :)
[01:10] <Guest8640> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VGA-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm    1024x768       60.0*+    1360x768       60.0     59.8      1152x864       60.0      800x600        72.2     60.3     56.2      680x384        60.0     59.8      640x480        59.9      512x384        60.0     
[01:10] <Guest8640> ok... basically:
[01:10] <jpwhiting> 1024x768 and lower :/
[01:10] <jpwhiting> probably not detecting your hardware correctly then
[01:10] <OerHeks> 1360x768  *
[01:10] <Guest8640> 1360x768 and lower
[01:10] <jpwhiting> ah, right
[01:11] <Guest8640> it's using the nvidia hardware driver
[01:11] <Guest8640> i tried both the latest and an older
[01:11] <Guest8640> issue didn't help
[01:11] <Guest8640> i tried using --newmode and -addmode
[01:11] <Guest8640> 2 issues, it adds it to DVI-1
[01:12] <Guest8640> and if I try to put it on VGA-0 it bugs saying that it's a "BadMatch"
[01:12] <jpwhiting> did you try with --output VGA-0 in there ?
[01:12] <jpwhiting> ah :/
[01:12] <Guest8640> i'll do again the cvt for 1680 by 1050
[01:12] <jpwhiting> are you sure the vga port can do that high of resolution, with your nvidia card
[01:12] <Guest8640> it works in Windows
[01:12] <jpwhiting> I would think it could, but no idea
[01:12] <jpwhiting> ah, yeah, sholud then
[01:13] <jpwhiting> *should
[01:14] <Guest8640> if i do "cvt 1680 1050 60" it says "Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync"
[01:14] <jpwhiting> and xrandr --output VGA-0 --addmode 1680x1050 fails ?
[01:16] <jpwhiting> erm, xrandr --newmode 1680x1050 blah rather
[01:16] <Guest8640> yeah
[01:16] <Guest8640> i just did --newmode which worked
[01:16] <Guest8640> and -addmode which failed
[01:16] <Guest8640> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)   Minor opcode of failed request:  18 (RRAddOutputMode)   Serial number of failed request:  29   Current serial number in output stream:  30
[01:16] <jpwhiting> --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050
[01:17] <jpwhiting> :/
[01:17] <jpwhiting> anything in your /var/log/X.org.0.log with EE or WW lines ?
[01:17] <Guest8640> xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050_60.00   AND xrandr --output VGA-0 --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050_60.00
[01:17] <genii> two dash in front of addmode
[01:17] <jpwhiting> erm, Xorg.0.log
[01:17] <Guest8640> ofcourse genii
[01:18] <Guest8640> lemme look
[01:18] <jpwhiting> genii: heh, now it's sleeping and not waking even with power connected :/
[01:18] <jpwhiting> ugh
[01:19] <genii> jpwhiting: Best advice is still to file a bug against it. It will get the proper attention then.
[01:19] <jpwhiting> genii: yeah, probably
[01:19] <jpwhiting> ok
[01:21] <Guest8640> Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[01:21] <Guest8640> that's a warning that keeps popping up
[01:21] <jpwhiting> erm, I'm signed in, but don't see any "file a new bug" on bugs.launchpad.net :/
[01:22] <jpwhiting> even after searching which I expected would say, ok no results, file a new one
[01:22] <Guest8640> so, no errors just a warning
[01:22] <Guest8640> i'm considering something i heard of :a Envy driver
[01:26] <jpwhiting> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs has nothing about "file a new bug" either
[01:26] <jpwhiting> how useless is launchpad :/
[01:26] <valorie> `ubuntu-bug packagename` in the cli is best
[01:26] <valorie> it makes launchpad useful
[01:27] <valorie> :-)
[01:32] <valorie> jpwhiting: can I help you over here figure out the proper packagename?
[01:33] <jpwhiting> well, this is a very old machine, 2007-2008 macbook, probably not worth the fuss tbh
[01:33] <jpwhiting> I'll just run linux in a virtualbox or something on it instead probably
[01:33] <jpwhiting> rather than trying to dual boot
[01:35] <jpwhiting> I was hoping this would work out well, but failure to wake from sleep is a blocker
[01:35] <jpwhiting> no worries
[01:35] <valorie> ok
[01:35] <jpwhiting> work out well == breathe new life into this aging machine :)
[01:36] <valorie> right
[01:44] <Guest8640> so any ideas for my issue jpwhiting ?
[02:00] <kaidelong> I'm using Intel HD 4000 graphics on Kubuntu 14.04 LTS. Firefox crashes so frequently as to be completely unusable. It runs for a few seconds before failing. Wondering if I need a new version of firefox?
[02:44] <Coffee-Pot> Any of ya'll know if this was ever ported to the linux world?  ( http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php ) and if not can anyone point me to an package for Kubuntu that is "like" ventrillo?
[02:48] <VolUTFan> I was switching from quassel to konversation to try it out.  Blueskaj seemed to like it.  Somehow an extra nick Coffee-Pot was logged in instead of mine.  I was asking about the ventrillo client app for Kubuntu or a "like" client
[02:56] <VolUTFan> !topic ventrillo
[03:13] <VolUTFan> I think I found what I was looking for
[03:14] <VolUTFan> !topic mangler
[03:14] <valorie> ?
[03:14] <valorie> are you looking for
[03:14] <valorie> !info mangler
[03:14] <VolUTFan> oh lol, im still learning
[03:14] <VolUTFan> yep that was it
[03:15] <valorie> topic would be about the /topic
[03:15] <VolUTFan> gimmie an example of topic
[03:15] <VolUTFan> so I will know
[03:15] <valorie> try /topic in a blank line
[03:15] <valorie> and see
[03:15] <valorie> in this chan you need ops to change the topic I think
[03:15] <VolUTFan> oh, it just puts the banner on the screen so I can see it
[03:16] <valorie> the banner?
[03:16] <VolUTFan> gotcha
[03:16] <VolUTFan> yea, banner being the login notification telling you where you are, and information when you first join the channel
[03:17] <VolUTFan> its kinda like the equivelant of logging into an FTP server and getting a informational paragraph about what system your on and any contact information etc..
[03:17] <valorie> oh, I see all that in the server tab
[03:18] <valorie> not every channel bothers with a topic, but all the organized help chans do
[03:18] <VolUTFan> in konversation is basically shows all that stuff at the very top of the screen anyhow
[03:18] <valorie> right
[03:18] <valorie> not everyone uses a gui client for IRC
[03:18] <valorie> since IRC predates guis by many years
[03:19] <VolUTFan> BluesKaj uses konversation, and I was using quassel.  I thought maybe I would give konversation a spin and see how I like it
[03:19] <valorie> and some prefer irssi, etc.
[03:19] <valorie> <3 konvi
[03:19] <VolUTFan> i don't think I ever remember using irc on terminal
[03:19] <valorie> I never warmed to quassel
[03:20] <VolUTFan> good news tho.  I got something like 5 bug reports put in for vivid
[03:20] <VolUTFan> it took me about 45 minutes to find 5 bugs
[03:20] <VolUTFan> lol
[03:21] <valorie> cool, thanks for writing up the bug reports
[03:22] <VolUTFan> np at all
[03:23] <VolUTFan> I am one of those types of people that hate repetative stuff.  I have been working on a shell script to automatically install packages that I use.  In case my system blows up for whatever reason, or I install a new version in a vbox, what I can do is run that script and it auto adds the repo keys, updates and goes line by line adding apps.
[03:24] <VolUTFan> its smoking fast considering I have a complete mirror of repos here locally.  I mirrored every repo I use to my local apt-mirror now
[03:26] <valorie> very nice
[03:26] <valorie> you sound like a sysadmin
[03:27] <VolUTFan> lets bump over to the offtopic
[03:28] <valorie> yep
[03:47] <r_rios> Hello. Help. I'm running Kubuntu Plasma 5 on a VM and the lock screen showed up, but, since I'm running the guest session, the account has no password. But just cliking unlock doesn't unlock. Meanwhile, the installer is running in the background. What do?
[03:47] <valorie> does hitting return work?
[03:52] <r_rios> Nope
[03:55] <r_rios> I just restarted the session
[03:55] <r_rios> Hopefully, that won't happen again
[05:38] <VolUTFan> anyone around?
[05:39] <valorie> yes, but....
[05:40] <valorie> drives me nuts when people ask that in a support chan
[05:44] <VolUTFan> figured someone might be asleep lol
[05:45] <VolUTFan> i figured it out, was trying to figure out how to corespond numbers to days of week.  I figured out 7=sun
[05:46] <VolUTFan> I was getting ready to crash out for the night.  I am dead tired.  Brain is poofed
[05:47] <valorie> there are people here 24/7, although there are slow spots
[05:47] <valorie> not even 10pm here
[05:47] <valorie> and i'm a nightowl
[05:47] <valorie> but for sure the europeans are sleeping
[05:48] <Tm_T> hu?
[05:49] <Tm_T> europeans are working
[05:49] <valorie> oops, I've not set up my clock to show me UT yet
[05:49] <valorie> sheesh
[05:49] <Tm_T> at least this eastern european is (=
[05:50] <Tm_T> UTC is 0550 atm
[07:33] <soee> good morning
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:51] <caine> hi
[12:26] <blaze> hello
[12:27] <Guest69410> hello
[12:27] <lordievader> o/
[12:28] <Guest69410> how to include this repository in software sources -> https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily
[12:29] <Guest69410> ?
[12:30] <Guest69410> I ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily"
[12:30] <Guest69410> should i just use sudo apt-get install vlc to get nightly builds?
[12:31] <hardik_7> Hi anyone know how to install modem like tata docomo e177 in kubuntu
[12:31] <hardik_7> i tier lsusb and it shows the device plese help its urgent
[12:31] <hardik_7> :)
[12:32] <lordievader> Guest69410: Depends on the ppa, but update your sources first ;)
[12:32] <Guest69410> can you see this and tell me? --- https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily
[12:32] <Guest69410> ;)
[12:32] <Guest69410> ;)
[12:33] <Guest69410> updating....
[12:34] <Guest69410> I read somewhere that "sudo apt-get install vlc-nox" should be used
[12:34] <lordievader> Guest69410: Supposing 3.0.0~git<blabla> is the development/nightly all you need to do is 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[12:34] <lordievader> vlc-nox is not in that ppa.
[12:34] <Guest69410> Thank you!
[12:34] <Guest69410> ok
[12:35] <Guest69410> How to reply to a particular user in IRC? When I double click a seperate tab is opening!
[12:38] <lordievader> Guest69410: Type their nick.
[12:38] <Guest69410> lordievader: Like this?!
[12:39] <Guest69410> lordievader Like this?!
 Theere times the charm!
[12:41] <lordievader> Guest69410: Yes, like that...
[12:43] <Guest69410> lordievader: Got it! :)
[12:45] <monkeyjuice> Guest69410: you just need to change your nick and you'll be rocking
[12:46] <Guest69410> nick blaze
[12:46] <monkeyjuice>  try /nick
[12:46] <Guest69410> test
[12:46] <blazz> tada!
[12:47] <blazz> monkeyjuice: :)
[12:47]  * monkeyjuice likes it
[12:48] <blazz> monkeyjuice: How to do that!?
[12:48] <monkeyjuice> place /me first then type like its you
[12:49]  * blazz gets it!
[12:50] <blazz> B-)
[12:50] <monkeyjuice> need to register your nick now
[12:51] <blazz> how to do that?
[12:51] <monkeyjuice>   /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com
[12:51] <monkeyjuice> sorry
[12:52] <blazz> ?
[12:52] <monkeyjuice> i messed up the first time guess you can see it ;)
[12:53] <blazz> monkeyjuice: No I can't. When I type mistake they are dissapearing!
[12:56] <blazz> foo@bar.com -> I guess kubuntu figures some where in there but what is the other freenode?
[12:56] <blazz> freenode@kubuntu?
[12:56] <monkeyjuice> its your email address
[12:56] <blazz> ok
[12:56] <blazz> :P
[12:57] <monkeyjuice>  /msg NickServ help REGISTER
[12:57] <blazz> monkeyjuice: thank you!
[12:59] <blazz> An email containing nickname activation instructions has been sent to <email>
[12:59] <blazz> monkeyjuice: :)
[12:59] <monkeyjuice> well done blazz
[13:00] <monkeyjuice> do you have #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:00] <monkeyjuice> if not add it
[13:00]  * blazz B-)
[13:15] <amichair> is KDE 4.14.3 available in any of the kubuntu ppas?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[17:00] <{shaman}> nice, kde 14/plasma 5 are finally working on this box... seems quick and pleasant
[17:35] <MoonUnit`> any ideas why plasma 5 keeps locking my screen after 5 minutes of no activity, have it set to 30 minutes in power saving.
[17:38] <mparillo> MoonUnit`: Desktop Behavior > Screen Locking?
[17:39] <MoonUnit`> aha, many thanks.. why isn't that in power management?
[17:51] <mparillo> Some consider screen locking a security thing instead of a power-saving thing, I guess.
[18:54] <afiefh> MoonUnit`, does locking the screen save power? It still shows an image. At big software companies screen locking is always used for security
[19:12] <MoonUnit`> i guess my thinking was how i had kde setup before plasma5, where i set xset to turn the screen off when the lock screen was enabled.
[19:22] <MoonUnit`> seems a waste of energy to leave the screen on while locked.
[19:50] <nicofrand> hi
[19:52] <bprompt> allo
[19:53] <nicofrand> Using the kubuntu-ppa next & next-backports, I upgraded kubuntu 14.10 to plasma5 but now I have this error message (and crashes) : "couldn't create slave: "Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file'." while trying to change the wallpaper or when using Konversation with DCC
[19:53] <nicofrand> Does anyone know how to fix it ? (everything on Google seems outdated or of no use)
[19:57] <alket> how to get kde telepathy 0.9 on kubuntu 14.04 ?
[20:02] <bprompt> nicofrand:      hmmm offhand, I'd say konversation may be using an older lib
[20:03] <bprompt> nicofrand:     one spot to check, will be -> dpkg -s konversation;     to see if it shows any conflicts
[20:04] <nicofrand> bprompt: it might but this issue appears with several other apps and I can't change my wallpaper for example
[20:05] <nicofrand> bprompt: it does not prompt any conflict
[20:05] <bprompt> nicofrand:    usually it'd mean the upgrade didn't go well, and you have many orphan and widow files
[20:06] <nicofrand> :/
[20:07] <nicofrand> I had to switch to kubuntu-ci/stable ppa to be able to connect again yeah (5.2.1 bugfix was just a big mess and removed later but I upgraded while it was available)
[20:07] <nicofrand> I never should have tried to upgrade to plasma5
[20:08] <rberg_> kde 4.0 never forget
[20:09] <nicofrand> I have a short memory. And it said they fixed the screensaver issue while watching a video in a browser, which convinced
[20:09] <nicofrand> me
[20:10] <nicofrand> (and indeed they fixed it but now it logs out automatically even if I disabled it in the configuration)
[20:10] <bprompt> hmmm .4.0?   I 4.8.5  in 12.04, works fine
[20:10] <bprompt> hm  shoot
[20:10] <bprompt> hmmm .4.0?   I have 4.8.5  in 12.04, works fine
[20:11] <bprompt> I'm not saying they didn't fix this or that, it may well work fine, from a full install or a sucessful upgrade, but upgrades aren't always that smooth
[20:13] <nicofrand> yes, once again I upgraded to soon. But I wish I could just fix this particular (io-slave thingy) bug, even temporarly while waiting a fix
[20:13] <bprompt> do a full install :)
[20:15] <nicofrand> :(
[20:16] <nicofrand> the worst thing with this unstable release is that I can't even report the bug (cannot login ‑ login button disabled ‑ or not the rights to launch gdb, etc.) when something wrong happens
[20:19] <bprompt> bear in mind that you're addressing an "upgrade", and thus your upgrade process didn't go well, in this instance, that doesn't mean a full install doesn't work or has all those bugs
[20:22] <nicofrand> I know. But I prefer to report a bug when it happens, if possible. Even if it means closing it later when someone finds out it comes from the upgrade. Better check it than ignore it, right ?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> nicofrand, is this strictly a plsama 5/KF5 upgrade or an upgrade to 15.04?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> er plasma 5
[20:23] <nicofrand> plasma5
[20:24] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:24] <nicofrand> plasma 5.2.1 especially :/
[20:24] <nicofrand> (https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67522-Upgrade-to-Plasma-5-2-1/)
[20:26] <BluesKaj> well, I prefer to do the whole OS release upgrade rather than just the desktop
[20:27] <nicofrand> I'm not that lucky with whole OS upgrades neither :-°
[20:28] <claydoh> Not that it was ever promoted as such, but the plasma5 in 14.10 is more a try-it-out thing., imnsho upgrading to 15.04 is actually safer and more stable
[20:32] <nicofrand> OK. I'll think about it. I'll just sigh for the moment and watch Netflix :). Have a good night or day !
[22:26] <Dexx1_> Hey guys -- one of our employees abrubptly left and refuses to give us the ROOT password to our kubuntu machine -- anyway to reset it or find the passworD?
[22:27] <ikonia> boot it into single user or from a live media and reset the password
[22:29] <bprompt> Dexx1_:      choice 1) threaten him with bodily harm   2) goad him back with Gelato ice-cream   3)  reset the password in a recovery session
[22:30] <keithzg> Dexx1_: By default there isn't even a root password. If one has been set, though, bprompt, they won't be able to get into a recovery session, right? Since it'll prompt for the root password.
[22:30] <keithzg> But as ikonia mentions just boot from a live media and reset from there (just chroot into the root partition once you've mounted it as read+write, then "passwd root"...or just modify the shadow file directly to have a blank password for root)
[22:31]  * keithzg hasn't had to do that when he's locked himself out of a box accidentally, noooo, of course not . . .
[22:31] <bprompt> keithzg:    right, it allows to reset the user's password, thus granting "su" access
[22:32] <keithzg> bprompt: Oh, that's available now? I know back in the day once you set a root password, you couldn't even get to the recovery options until you authenticated with it.
[22:33] <keithzg> Been a while since I had to do that though (and in most situations when things are screwed up it ends up being easier for me to just chroot).
[22:34] <bprompt> keithzg:     I know that's so in *ubuntu, not sure on others though, and yes, back in the days when I was in SuSE, you had to provide a root password, and then make a user account
[22:40] <keithzg> bprompt: Was definitely also the case in *buntu until recently-ish
[22:42] <OerHeks> Nope, there has been no sudo pass in ubuntu atleast since 7.04, before that too AFAIK
[22:46] <keithzg> OerHeks: You misunderstand, there's been no *default* root password, talking here about what happens if you go ahead and set one manually.
[23:10] <Dexx1_> figured it out
[23:36] <feral_hedgehog> So... Aren't I supposed to be seing messages or something?
[23:36] <claydoh> feral_hedgehog: ??
[23:38] <feral_hedgehog> Well, from what I've read about IRC on wikipedia, it's like an open chat thing. So I kinda expected people to... You know... Chat.
[23:38] <claydoh> so---ask a question, someone may answer ;)
[23:38] <feral_hedgehog> Gonna go read up some more and come back to you with what I'll find.