| charles | zsombi, I said "possibly next week" | 00:10 |
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| charles | zsombi:, google translates the above as "Charles Kerr promised next week to be preparing a new alarm dbus API" | 00:10 |
| charles | zsombi, this *might* start next week, but I'm promising nothing :D | 00:11 |
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| JB_ | can anyone explain to me what UbuntuWindow::handleSurfaceFocusChange is and/or where it is generated | 05:16 |
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| zsombi | charles: google translate does not translate finno ugric languages properly :) | 05:52 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:47 |
| justCarakas | o/ | 08:39 |
| davidcalle | Good morning all! | 08:47 |
| dholbach | dpm, hey hey - how's life over there? | 09:16 |
| dpm | hey dholbach, good, good :) | 09:18 |
| dholbach | dpm, do you think you'll have some time to review the MP today? :) | 09:18 |
| dpm | dholbach, yes, give me a few mins | 09:19 |
| dholbach | super | 09:19 |
| dholbach | thanks | 09:19 |
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| popey | sverzegnassi: I asked on the translators list, and we've already had a lot of translations done. They auto-import at 5am, so will wait for the next lot tomorrow morning, then probably upload. | 09:58 |
| dholbach | beuno, can we chat about moving developer.u.c/publish into myapps again? | 09:59 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: good! | 10:00 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: shoudn't jenkins run tests on it? https://code.launchpad.net/~fitojb/ubuntu-docviewer-app/grammar/+merge/251681 | 10:08 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Grammar Day! :-D | 10:10 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: no because the contributor isn't in the team. | 10:12 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: top approve it and it will get tested on landing I think. | 10:12 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: oh, ok! i never heard it before. tnx! | 10:14 |
| dholbach | zsombi, more links for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/1428051/+merge/251714 :) | 10:36 |
| popey | davmor2: what's the best way forward for reminders? We provide you with a new click which fixes specific bugs you raised? | 10:36 |
| popey | davmor2: I don't think we're going to be able to resolve every crasher. Some are a bit deeper right now. | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | popey: has mzanetti fixed all the issues already :) | 10:37 |
| popey | at least one | 10:37 |
| mzanetti | davmor2, 2 actually, one still open | 10:37 |
| popey | I think he started fixing them before you started filing them :) | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | popey: I thought I saw 2 of them fall :) | 10:37 |
| mzanetti | yeah, the crash is still to be investigated. I think there's progress... still a nasty one... | 10:38 |
| mzanetti | but the OA one is fixed and the usability issues with renaming tags/notebooks is fixed too | 10:38 |
| davmor2 | popey: Yeap so as soon as you have potential fixes update the spreadsheet that will create a new ticket and then we can retest | 10:38 |
| davmor2 | popey: and if you can ping me with a link as I can't access sjenkins for some reason it always times out for me :) | 10:39 |
| popey | yeah, you need vpn access for s-jenkins | 10:40 |
| popey | but I am happy to grab the click and stick it on people.c.c | 10:40 |
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| beuno | dholbach, yes we can | 11:56 |
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| davmor2 | mzanetti: by the way how do you get past level 8 on hard for mvm with all three stars everything I've tried has failed I've been on it a fortnight :D | 12:14 |
| dholbach | beuno, ok... how do we best go about it? | 12:14 |
| beuno | dholbach, quick call? | 12:15 |
| dholbach | beuno, sure | 12:16 |
| mzanetti | davmor2, you should be able to pass the level with some lighthouse towers and some cannons (probably not 3 stars) | 12:16 |
| beuno | dholbach, but not now, I'm otp :) | 12:16 |
| mzanetti | davmor2, then, later come back with a stronger tower and finish it off with 3 | 12:16 |
| dholbach | beuno, ping me later on when you have time | 12:16 |
| dholbach | dpm, did you have time to review the MP? | 12:17 |
| davmor2 | mzanetti: man no wonder I can't get passed it then, I'm trying to get 3 stars on every level all the time I thought 6-7 were bad but 8 they just sail passed :D | 12:17 |
| mzanetti | :) | 12:18 |
| mzanetti | davmor2, no worries, it'll be tricky to get 3 stars even with stronger towers | 12:18 |
| mzanetti | so twice the fun :P | 12:19 |
| davmor2 | mzanetti: I have for easy and medium, it's just hard is like extremely hard not just hard | 12:19 |
| mzanetti | wait till you get to level 24 | 12:20 |
| mzanetti | then you know what's hard | 12:20 |
| mzanetti | ah no... 25 was the bad one | 12:21 |
| mzanetti | http://notyetthere.org/data2/level25.m4v | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | mzanetti: yeah that one stumped me for an age on medium | 12:22 |
| dpm | dholbach, done | 12:32 |
| dholbach | thanks dpm | 12:33 |
| dholbach | dpm, updated | 12:35 |
| dholbach | (and replied) | 12:35 |
| popey | mzanetti: have you tested it on mx4 yet? | 12:36 |
| popey | (mvm) | 12:36 |
| mzanetti | popey, sure | 12:36 |
| popey | much smoother? | 12:36 |
| mzanetti | hmm... a bit... not too much. | 12:37 |
| mzanetti | popey, actually quite a lot... | 12:38 |
| mzanetti | popey, well, the animation still only has so many frames... that's a given from th artwork | 12:38 |
| mzanetti | so it'll never be totally smooth | 12:38 |
| mzanetti | but yeah, the explosion animation etc is much smoother there | 12:39 |
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| dpm | dholbach, thanks. What about the question about .title_lines being a hidden file? | 12:43 |
| dholbach | dpm, ah ,look like the comment was dropped when I pushed a new rev | 12:44 |
| dholbach | dpm, it's a hidden file because nobody is supposed to edit it | 12:44 |
| dholbach | dpm, we have to do some bookkeeping | 12:44 |
| dholbach | dpm, basically we find all lines being title lines, remove the metadata (so translations work), but save which lines were title lines - then we can readd the "Title: " before letting pelican generate the html | 12:45 |
| dpm | dholbach, but what's the role of the .title_lines file? Are the titles not already in the markdown docs? | 12:46 |
| dholbach | dpm, that's where we do the bookkeeping | 12:47 |
| dholbach | if you remove the meta data "Title: " from a line and make it a line just like any other (so that translations work for like every other line)... | 12:47 |
| dholbach | you have to mark somewhere which lines those were, so we can re-add "Title: " before their translated counterparts before pelican can generate html | 12:48 |
| dpm | dholbach, but would it not make sense to generate .title_list dynamically, so that we don't have to maintain two copies of the title lines in sync? | 12:49 |
| dholbach | dpm, if you have a bzr tree with all mentions of "Title: " removed, how do you decide which of the lines were title lines? | 12:50 |
| * dpm looks at code again | 12:51 | |
| dpm | dholbach, this is perhaps me not understanding, so bear with me. Two things come to mind: 1) the title line must always be the first line in the markdown doc 2) We start with a bzr tree with "Title: " lines, we remove them and put them in the .title_list file at the same time | 12:53 |
| dholbach | dpm, I guess we could do 1) with a bit of sanity checking | 13:03 |
| dholbach | I'll look into it | 13:04 |
| dholbach | zsombi, I guess the last message on https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/1428051/+merge/251714 is not my problem? | 13:10 |
| dholbach | or bzoltan_: ^ | 13:13 |
| zsombi | dholbach: what you mean the last message? | 13:19 |
| dholbach | zsombi, the comment from the merge bot | 13:20 |
| zsombi | dholbach: ah, you mean the UNSTABLE? yes, that seem to be a strange AP vs mako problem... | 13:20 |
| dholbach | ok | 13:20 |
| dholbach | so there's nothing more I need to do? | 13:21 |
| zsombi | dholbach: mhall119: when do you plan to publish the 1.2 version? I see teh d-u-c is pretty outdated what comes to teh documentation | 13:21 |
| zsombi | dholbach: mhall119: what is mentioned as development, it si actually released for long time, and 1.2 is gonna be released pretty soon as well, so that si pretty much 2 versions behind... | 13:22 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: do we have a new framework version to use? | 13:29 |
| zsombi | mhall119: for 1.2 not yet, but for 1.1 (which is marked as under development) we have, basically that's the RTM | 13:30 |
| zsombi | mhall119: and even that si not up to date! | 13:31 |
| zsombi | is | 13:31 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: what is the new framework? | 13:31 |
| mrqtros | popey ping | 13:31 |
| zsombi | mhall119: there's no new framework, 1.1 is the utopic framework | 13:32 |
| zsombi | mhall119: I assumed the "stable release API" in here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/api/ is the Trusty, but now I see it as it has a Utopic logo... | 13:33 |
| zsombi | mhall119: but then teh development snapshot link shows 14.01 as well..... | 13:34 |
| zsombi | mhall119: hold on... the development framework should be the Vivid fw... | 13:34 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: stable means the current supported framework for click packages to target | 13:35 |
| mhall119 | development is the in-progress framework versions that app devs can use to target un-released versions of the US | 13:35 |
| mhall119 | OS | 13:36 |
| zsombi | mhall119: ok... so, stable is 14.10 framework, and development is under 15.04 FW | 13:39 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: do we have a definite name for the 15.04 framework? | 13:39 |
| zsombi | mhall119: dunno what "definite name" means here... I can chose these frameworks from QtC as they are, didn't knew we have other "names" for them... | 13:40 |
| mhall119 | ok, I'll check qtc and update the website | 13:43 |
| zsombi | mhall119: or were you thought about "vivid"? All I see their names are "Framework 14.10", "Framework 15.04", etc... | 13:44 |
| zsombi | mhall119: but the nicks are the series, the fw names are these | 13:45 |
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| bzoltan_ | dholbach: it is for sure not yours.. a rebuild might solves the problem | 13:58 |
| dholbach | bzoltan_, I'll leave it in your hands then :) | 13:58 |
| dholbach | dpm, updated | 13:58 |
| dholbach | beuno, I have a call in 2h from now and will call it a day afterwards | 13:59 |
| DiogoF | hey guys | 14:03 |
| DiogoF | can some one tell me where i can learn qt c++?? | 14:04 |
| dholbach | balloons, and/or maybe you have time to check https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-devices-help/1426304/+merge/251589 too? | 14:12 |
| seb128 | in qml, is there a way to delay components creation to after some init? | 14:13 |
| balloons | dholbach, I've been watching it | 14:13 |
| dholbach | seb128, http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-loader.html? | 14:14 |
| dholbach | balloons, ...and? :) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | dholbach, hum, I guess, is there no way to do some init before the ui is built? | 14:14 |
| seb128 | I want to set some properties before my main is built | 14:15 |
| dholbach | seb128, no idea - the above it just what I think I remember from greyback's qml performance talk | 14:15 |
| seb128 | I do use "model: Init()" as a trick, which works but it complains about some binding loops then for things used in my init function | 14:16 |
| greyback | seb128: Loader is best way to delay loading of qml components anyway | 14:20 |
| greyback | so set the source of the loader only when you're ready | 14:20 |
| seb128 | greyback, so you would put the main grid in a loader? | 14:20 |
| greyback | seb128: it's an option | 14:22 |
| greyback | give it a go & see | 14:22 |
| seb128 | greyback, dholbach, thanks | 14:23 |
| mrqtros | seb128, hello. You can also use Loader with Timer if instant load doesn't satisfy your needs | 14:25 |
| seb128 | mrqtros, thanks for the suggestion | 14:29 |
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| dholbach | balloons, do we have some bits of content we can stuff into the help app already? | 15:56 |
| balloons | dholbach, we do, from julie and the pad | 15:59 |
| dholbach | excellent | 15:59 |
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| popey | gventuri: rpadovani: you around for calculator hangout? | 16:01 |
| gventuri | popey: yes, joining | 16:02 |
| gventuri | popey: it's taking ages to load | 16:02 |
| mcphail | Hi everyone. I've been looking for a good, paper, QML reference book which gives advice on structuring code properly. Just now, my projects look like 1990s php pages: a mess of markup, content and functions. Any pointers? | 16:27 |
| balloons | mcphail, hmm.. perhaps bzoltan_ has a suggestion? | 16:52 |
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| mcphail | balloons: I'm just a hobbyist programmer and always struggle with languages and frameworks which make it easy to write unstructured code. I'm great at making spaghetti. Perhaps I should stick to standard Qt/C++ but the QML approach seems neat. | 17:00 |
| balloons | mcphail, best way to learn is to try.. definitely go for qml it's really nice | 17:03 |
| balloons | checkout developer.ubuntu.com and do the tutorial | 17:04 |
| seb128 | hum | 17:04 |
| mcphail | balloons: yep - have been playing with it for a week. As I said, though, my own efforts at anything of any size are pretty messy. They work, but they're messy. | 17:06 |
| seb128 | can I delete a buggy click update? | 17:07 |
| seb128 | one that got rejected because the profile includes "debug"? | 17:07 |
| seb128 | or do I need to bump the version and reupload? | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | the latter | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | click is wasteful wrt version numbers | 17:09 |
| seb128 | bah | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | (this was really bad when you couldnt use a - in the beginning ... now you can at least have - revisions) | 17:09 |
| seb128 | k, fixed | 17:13 |
| seb128 | it's a bit annoying, seems like clicking on "run" in qtcreator produces a click with "debug" in it security profile, in the same dir as were the click from "publish&verify" are stored | 17:14 |
| seb128 | it makes it easy to upload one with "debug" set | 17:14 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i just use click build in cli | 17:17 |
| seb128 | I wish that there was a way to filter out webapps from real apps... | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | as if html would be so much different from qml :P | 17:20 |
| * ogra_ likes webapps | 17:20 | |
| seb128 | they basically are bookmarks to websites | 17:21 |
| seb128 | which is nice, but doesn't work e.g offline | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | yeah, indeed | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | in fact i'd like to work on a new webapp container some day as a weekend project ... caching was one of the features i had in mind | 17:22 |
| ogra_ | pulldown to refresh and using the bottom edge for the back button were two others | 17:22 |
| bzoltan_ | mcphail: I suggest to check out the Qt's examples | 17:58 |
| mcphail | bzoltan_: thanks. Will work my way through them. Do you know of any good paper books? I always get on better having a dead tree reference next to the keyboard | 18:00 |
| bzoltan_ | mcphail: the last paper book on technology I have bought was teh Stevens's TCP/IP Ilustrated | 18:02 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: filed bug 1428248 after noticing on the bq phone the grid is a bit small. | 18:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1428248 in Ubuntu Document Viewer App "Grid view date/size overflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1428248 | 18:03 |
| mcphail | bzoltan_: :) | 18:04 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: if I upload a branch where "x-small" font size is used for date/size label, would you give it a test? | 18:07 |
| popey | sure thing sverzegnassi | 18:08 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: I am going afk a bit this evening, my brother is coming round for computer help :) -but if you ping me I can do it. | 18:09 |
| rokki | Hi guys! I tried to compile reminders-app in my 15.04 desktop, but got the following error message: Can not use "Organizer" module which has not yet been found. | 18:10 |
| rokki | any idea? | 18:10 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: ok! | 18:10 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: here's the branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-docviewer-app/fix-1428248 | 18:10 |
| popey | oh, that was quick | 18:10 |
| popey | ok! | 18:10 |
| sverzegnassi | dpm: o/ | 18:13 |
| dpm | hey sverzegnassi | 18:16 |
| sverzegnassi | hi! do you have some time for taking a look at an MP for the bugs you reported on docviewer? | 18:17 |
| sverzegnassi | https://code.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-docviewer-app/fix-translation-issues/+merge/251788 | 18:17 |
| sverzegnassi | dpm: ^^ | 18:17 |
| rokki | noone helps me which "organizer" module needs for the reminder-app in 15.04 dektop? | 18:20 |
| dpm | sverzegnassi, on it, thanks! | 18:20 |
| rokki | I thought is is the qml-modules-qtorganizer, but is it already installed | 18:20 |
| dpm | rokki, I'm not sure myself, off the top of my head, but perhaps mzanetti or rpadovani can help you | 18:20 |
| mzanetti | rokki, qtpim5-dev | 18:22 |
| dpm | sverzegnassi, reviewed and added a comment. I need to run now, but I'll be looking at it again when I'm back | 18:24 |
| rokki | mzanetti: thanks, it works now ;) | 18:26 |
| popey | rokki: pro-tip, check debian/control in the source directory for a list of build depends | 18:29 |
| popey | (same for any app) | 18:29 |
| rokki | thanks popey, next time I'll do that | 18:30 |
| sverzegnassi | ok! thank you dpm! | 18:31 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: left a comment on the bug | 18:32 |
| popey | and screenshots | 18:32 |
| popey | brb | 18:32 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: i could try to "steal" some pixel from the side margin, but i feel like the problem still remain (some langs may use even more chars than the English "wednesday") | 18:47 |
| sverzegnassi | i think that adding a 3rd line is the only way we have for solving it | 18:48 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: +1 | 18:52 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: http://imgur.com/aTJ8oTc | 19:01 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: that's quite close to the bottom edge | 19:02 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: could the bottom section be made slightly larger, taking up maybe 1/3 of the heigh of the box? | 19:03 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: https://imgur.com/AamdzkE | 19:04 |
| sverzegnassi | increased from units.gu(6) to units.gu(8) | 19:04 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: better. what do you think? | 19:06 |
| sverzegnassi | yes, it is. i'd like to re-align the mime type icon, since on krillin it could be hidden by the dark-grey area | 19:08 |
| popey | right. | 19:09 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: https://imgur.com/4TCrOpF | 19:09 |
| sverzegnassi | on krillin should look like this ^^ | 19:09 |
| popey | much nicer. the date and size could be larger now it has more space? | 19:10 |
| sverzegnassi | yes, and it looks better :D | 19:11 |
| popey | excellent | 19:11 |
| sverzegnassi | i've updated the branch | 19:12 |
| * popey grabs | 19:12 | |
| popey | sverzegnassi: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-03-04-191710.png | 19:17 |
| popey | looks like the text needs to be nudged down a tiny bit, it's too high? | 19:17 |
| sverzegnassi | yes, I could do the most obvious thing: adjust the height of the darker area to match the exact height of the text | 19:20 |
| popey | heh | 19:20 |
| mzanetti | popey, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/fix-tags-crash/+merge/251812 | 19:21 |
| popey | mzanetti: \o/ | 19:21 |
| mzanetti | indeed | 19:21 |
| sverzegnassi | popey: https://imgur.com/ceISCpG | 19:28 |
| popey | sverzegnassi: perfect | 19:28 |
| popey | Ship it! :) | 19:28 |
| sverzegnassi | "Conflicts from merge" ^_^ | 19:29 |
| sverzegnassi | I've already proposed it for a merge. https://code.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-docviewer-app/fix-1428248/+merge/251811 | 19:30 |
| popey | heh | 19:41 |
| beuno | *store is currently unresponsive* | 20:43 |
| beuno | sorry, working on it | 20:43 |
| kenvandine | beuno, peddle faster! :-p | 21:18 |
| * beuno is sweating profusely | 21:19 | |
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| newsages | hi all | 22:31 |
| newsages | Im making, qml proyect + qmlplugin(c++),, how i can make ubuntu-click for 2 proyects? | 22:33 |
| labsin | newsages, you could use cmake | 22:36 |
| newsages | right, i view these now (sorry my english, am spanish) | 22:38 |
| newsages | thx labsin | 22:38 |
| newsages | file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/qdvrplugin.newsages/0.1/share/qml/QdvrPlugin/QdvrPlugin.qml:3 module "Myapp" is not installed | 23:11 |
| labsin | newsages, what did you do presicely? | 23:28 |
| labsin | newsages, I use the following cmake file to set the install dirs: https://github.com/labsin/TilEm-Qml/blob/master/cmake/Modules/CLICKInstallDirs.cmake | 23:32 |
| newsages | have c++ qmlproject, i have qmlplugin c++, , i want to make a project to generate click for these projects | 23:32 |
| labsin | newsages, How do you build them now? | 23:34 |
| labsin | I think the plugins need to go in /lib/<arch triplet>/PluginTarget dir | 23:35 |
| newsages | modules? | 23:35 |
| labsin | from the cpp qmlplugin | 23:36 |
| newsages | src := backends/modules/ | 23:37 |
| labsin | Yes those should build a shared library. Something like libTargetName.so This file should be in the folder /lib/<arch triplet>/TargetName/ | 23:41 |
| newsages | I can paste here multi lines? | 23:44 |
| newsages | yes and qmldir | 23:45 |
| labsin | use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 23:45 |
| labsin | and paste the link here | 23:45 |
| newsages | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10532620/ | 23:48 |
| labsin | newsages, is there something in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/qdvrplugin.newsages/0.1/lib ? | 23:50 |
| newsages | empty /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ | 23:53 |
| labsin | So, you load the project in QtCreator. You have your kits set up and you build the click package from QtCreator? Do you run it on the phone? | 23:55 |
| newsages | right all | 23:55 |
| labsin | Can you post the pro file from backends/modules? | 23:57 |
| newsages | pro? | 23:58 |
| labsin | the project file | 23:58 |
| newsages | yes, but i use cmake, no pro | 23:59 |
| labsin | ok. the cmake file then | 23:59 |
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