| Noskcaj | darkxst, Is anyone planning to merge meta-gnome3? | 05:49 |
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| darkxst | Noskcaj, not that I know of | 06:44 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, i *think* i've merged it properly. ubuntu-to-new debdiff at http://pastebin.com/R3uWZCzg | 07:03 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, not really sure I can review that without re-doing the whole merge ;( | 08:02 |
| darkxst | so I'll leave it for whoever sponsors (I don't have upload rights) | 08:02 |
| baastrup_ | HI | 08:14 |
| baastrup_ | my laptop suspend when lidt is closed eventhough I have an external screen connected | 08:15 |
| baastrup_ | :-( | 08:15 |
| baastrup_ | is this a known bug in 14.10? | 08:15 |
| JockeTF | baastrup_: Not idea, but you can change that in GNOME Tweak Tool. | 08:17 |
| JockeTF | *No | 08:17 |
| baastrup_ | JockeTF: I tried to find it en gconf-edit but no luck | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | gnome-tweak-tool | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | or, if you really want a low-level tool, dconf-editor | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | gconf is deprecated (because it's inefficient: parsing hundreds of small .xml files is costly) | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | it's still there because not all apps have migrated to dconf yet | 08:21 |
| mgedmin | but gnome 3 is dconf across the board, afaik | 08:21 |
| baastrup_ | gnome-tweak-tool: Suspend even if external monitor plugged in was set to off | 08:22 |
| baastrup_ | seems like a bug... | 08:22 |
| baastrup_ | hey | 08:22 |
| darkxst | baastrup_, I think it should default to on | 08:24 |
| baastrup_ | hmm I tried both settings and the laptop suspend on both :-( | 08:25 |
| baastrup_ | im running bumblebee as well dont know if that is a problem | 08:25 |
| baastrup_ | where do i find the setting in dconf-editor? | 08:26 |
| darkxst | baastrup_, bumblebee is nothing more than a horrid hack, but in this case I doubt its causing the problem | 08:26 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, its actually the other way around, gsettings is the main tool now | 08:29 |
| darkxst | I don't think anything uses dconf directly anymore | 08:30 |
| mgedmin | I admit to not understanding the gsettings/dconf split | 08:30 |
| mgedmin | in any case, it's not gconf any more | 08:30 |
| mgedmin | so gconf-editor is not helpful for baastrup_ | 08:31 |
| mgedmin | and there's no gsettings-editor, just dconf-editor | 08:31 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, gsettings is basically just a friendly wrapper around dconf I suppose you could say | 08:31 |
| darkxst | dconf-editor deals in gsettings, the name is likely from the legacy days | 08:31 |
| mgedmin | does it have configurable backends, dconf being one of them? | 08:31 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, I don't think so, dconf-editor speaks gsettings, glib translates that into dconf | 08:32 |
| * mgedmin finds http://askubuntu.com/questions/249887/gconf-dconf-gsettings-and-the-relationship-between-them and starts reading | 08:34 | |
| baastrup | lid-close-ac-action overrules lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor | 08:34 |
| baastrup | so | 08:35 |
| mgedmin | bug in code? | 08:35 |
| baastrup | I had to set lid-close-ac-action: nothing | 08:35 |
| baastrup | lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor is not doing anything | 08:36 |
| baastrup | enven though i set it to treue | 08:36 |
| baastrup | it dones not supsned | 08:36 |
| darkxst | baastrup, file a bug ;) I'm off to get pizza ;) | 08:37 |
| mgedmin | who handles lid closure events in 14.10? gnome-settings-daemon? logind? | 08:38 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, both | 08:38 |
| darkxst | but g-s-d controls the settings | 08:38 |
| darkxst | logind the events (and some master settings) | 08:38 |
| darkxst | as in logind generates the events, g-s-d process them (but logind can also override that, with custom user settings) | 08:41 |
| darkxst | (since g-s-d is really per-user) | 08:43 |
| mgedmin | I could get rich and famous if I write a series of blog posts explaining how modern Linux works | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | "when you close the laptop LID the firmware emits an ACPI event that is processed by the kernel and sent to a userspace daemon ..." | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | and all these components change ALL THE TIME so I'll have a job for life! | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | oops, my blog has no ads so I won't get rich | 08:44 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, right, I was about to say, blogs don't make many rich ;) | 08:45 |
| baastrup | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1428037 | 08:46 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1428037 in linux (Ubuntu) "lid close suspend even though external screen is connected" [Undecided,New] | 08:46 |
| darkxst | baastrup, use ubuntu-bug to file bugs, and also the correct package ]gnome-settings-daemon in this case. | 08:47 |
| darkxst | baastrup, I really doubt this is a kernel bug, you are clearly getting the lid-closed events! | 08:48 |
| baastrup | darkxst: ubuntu-bug will create a new bug right I just want to add files to this existing bug | 08:49 |
| darkxst | baastrup, apport-collect, but you need to change it to g-s-d first or it won't collect the right files | 08:50 |
| darkxst | change the bug that is | 08:50 |
| baastrup | darkxst: g-s-d? | 08:50 |
| mgedmin | "dconf is only the GSettings backend on Unix, on Windows things actually end up in the registry, and OS X has a native GSettings backend too." | 08:52 |
| mgedmin | so I was half-right about gsettings having different backends | 08:52 |
| * JockeTF gives mgedmin tons of "You're the one millionth visitor!", "Meet Russian Girls", "Single mother discovers a weird trick for weight loss that doctors hate", "Your computer has registry errors", and "PLAY NOW / DOWNLOAD NOW" ads for his blog. | 09:00 | |
| JockeTF | All of them animated. | 09:01 |
| JockeTF | Plus sounds. | 09:01 |
| * mgedmin has adblock so doesn't see any of them | 09:01 | |
| JockeTF | mgedmin: No, but you'll get rich! | 09:02 |
| JockeTF | You're welcome! | 09:02 |
| baastrup | what version of evolution and evolution-ews will be in 15.04? | 09:22 |
| mgedmin | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=evolution says 3.12.11 | 09:28 |
| baastrup | mgedmin: :-( | 09:32 |
| mgedmin | I expect 3.14 will appear in the ppa at some point after the release of 15.04 | 09:33 |
| darkxst | might be a little late to get it into the archives though | 09:35 |
| baastrup | hope they wont forget it, im a big fan og evolution and ews | 09:37 |
| darkxst | baastrup, we are in feature freeze now, and evolution seems to have developed their own independent release cycle ;( | 09:38 |
| baastrup | noooo | 09:39 |
| baastrup | evolution is the one and only ews/exchange app for linux | 09:39 |
| darkxst | baastrup, we will package it on the gnome3 ppa | 09:41 |
| darkxst | and it will probably land early in 15.10 cycle | 09:42 |
| darkxst | baastrup, or you can package it, and I will sponsor it to the ppa ;) | 09:43 |
| baastrup | darkxst: im not good enough to do that | 09:44 |
| darkxst | baastrup, could learn;) we're here to help | 09:45 |
| baastrup | another qyestion | 11:01 |
| baastrup | when I modprobe nvidia drivers shoulden it modprobe nvidia-uvm as well ? | 11:01 |
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