[00:56] <sudormrf> question about mdadm.conf.  If I modify the current create statement from: "CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes" to "CREATE owner=MYUSER group=users mode=0660 auto=yes" and restart the computer, will it break anything?  I believe the answer is no, I just want to be sure.  I will then chown the current folder/array
[00:56] <sudormrf> or should I just leave that alone and chown it
[04:29] <sudormrf> anyone around?
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <ProbsNotCheraphy> hey guys... ive got an apache virtual host... and was wondering if there was anyway to specify in the conf file that i want apache to serve the index.html file when i go to the site (ie instead of site/index.html)
[08:23] <lordievader> ProbsNotCheraphy: It should automatically check the dir for an index file.
[08:23] <ProbsNotCheraphy> hmmm its not for some reason
[08:24] <lordievader> You get a directory listing?
[08:24] <ProbsNotCheraphy> no it goes to some cgi thing
[08:25] <ProbsNotCheraphy> you can see it at omega.dtscode.io
[08:26] <lordievader> ProbsNotCheraphy: I get an 'Hello, World!
[08:26] <ProbsNotCheraphy> what browser?
[08:26] <lordievader> Firefox.
[08:26] <ProbsNotCheraphy> thats weird
[08:27] <lordievader> On Chromium too.
[08:27] <lordievader> ProbsNotCheraphy: Caching?
[08:27] <ProbsNotCheraphy> thats what im thinking now
[08:28] <ProbsNotCheraphy> yeah that was the issue
[08:28] <ProbsNotCheraphy> thanks lordievader
[08:28] <ProbsNotCheraphy> idk why it happened in the first place
[08:29] <lordievader> ProbsNotCheraphy: ;)
[09:09] <yossarianuk> Hi - is this 'freak' SSL bug anything to worry about in terms of servers or is it a client only issue ?
[09:12] <yossarianuk> ie - http://it.slashdot.org/story/15/03/03/2036241/freak-attack-threatens-ssl-clients
[09:30] <hxm> hello
[09:32] <hxm> i have a dedicated server with mail and http services, i make backups often but i want to professionalize this service in some way, i wonder what is the standard to do this, -- rent an other server and use it as backup server when the main server fails? if so, how to make the on-the-fly copy data
[10:24] <Reddy>  Hello experts, Installed Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS on a SAS drive.	NVMe drivers are detected with unknown model.Drives are not not showing using fdisk command .please advise
[10:31] <Reddy>  Hello experts, sorry to repost. Installed Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS on a SAS drive.	NVMe drivers are detected with unknown model.Drives are not not showing using fdisk command .please advise
[10:47] <lordievader> Reddy: Anything in dmesg about the drives or the SAS controller?
[10:48] <Reddy> lordievader: Parted –l  result   Model: DELL PERC H310 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 199GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos
[10:49] <Reddy> Model: Unknown (unknown) Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 1600GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: loop
[10:49] <Reddy> Model: Unknown (unknown) Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 1600GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: loop
[10:52] <Reddy> checking dmesg
[10:54] <lordievader> I have no experience with SAS, but I'd say they are recognized. Should there be data on there?
[10:57] <Reddy> installed OS on SAS drives, I want data to be placed on PCIe SSD for performance
[13:01] <adac> Guys, is there a way/a  tool that  can port my linux system (ubuntu 12.04) from one server to another. I'm currently on digitalocean which has this 'droplet' containers and I wanted to move from (move the droplets) there to my own root server
[13:03] <quantumfoam> hi there, anyone itc who can comment on Advantage (if you have it, do you feel like it's worth the price, etc)?
[13:03] <quantumfoam> my company is thinking about purchasing it
[13:23] <RoyK> adac: rsync?
[13:25] <adac> RoyK, do you probably know a good howto on how to port  linux with rsync?
[13:31] <RoyK> adac: "port" usually refers to moving a system from one architecture to another. If you want to copy an entire installation, you can use rsync -avPHXA --delete / target:/ and then run grub-install on the target. If you haven't done this before, then it may be less hassle to just install a new system and setup the services again there
[13:32] <adac> RoyK, ok I see
[13:32] <adac> thank you very much
[13:33] <adac> RoyK, does --delete really delete / ?
[13:33] <RoyK> it deletes whatever file on the *target* that isn't present on the *source* (from where you run it) and thus creates a copy of it all
[13:34] <RoyK> see man rsync
[13:35] <OpenTokix> holy crap that will break stuff =)
[13:35] <OpenTokix> good luck =)
[13:36] <RoyK> OpenTokix: what? I've cloned systems that way several times...
[13:37] <OpenTokix> ok - with configured services?
[13:38] <RoyK> say you want to move system A to system B and don't want anything left of what's configured on system B (which can be any distro), yes, that works.
[13:38] <OpenTokix> ok
[13:38] <RoyK> it probably doesn't work too well if you're running selinux, but that's not common on debian/ubuntu, though
[13:38] <OpenTokix> no, it runs the even more useless apparmor
[13:39] <RoyK> I don't think apparmor will stop this. anyway - it doesn't touch the source system, so it can't do much harm
[13:39] <RoyK> and again - I've used this to virtualise (p2v) systems several times
[13:49] <patdk-wk> apparmor is nice, works great for me
[13:49] <patdk-wk> you just run rsync unrestricted by apparmor, pretty simple
[13:50] <patdk-wk> personally though, I'll normally just lvm snapshot, and dd the disk
[13:50] <OpenTokix> Personally I am using a modern approach to my sysadmin and use configuration management
[13:52] <patdk-wk> that actually helps you migrate the data?
[13:52] <patdk-wk> if this was only about migrating the config, that is simple
[14:03] <caribou> Where should I go to get a hold of the openstack charms for Havana ?
[14:04] <caribou> need it to diagnose some issue
[14:05] <caribou> is 'old-stable' a correct pick ?
[14:10] <spidernik> hello there! any report of a libc recent update that breaks kerberos SSO in firefox/chromium? Namely, trying to sso on a webpage crashes the browsers.
[14:14] <yossarianuk> spidernik: had you rebooted the machine after libc update ?
[14:15] <yossarianuk> (you may also find it apparmor related?_
[14:19] <spidernik> yossarianuk: yes, freshly rebooted. I'll look at apparmor, thanks for the suggestion.
[14:25] <dalurka> if we strace firefox we get:
[14:25] <dalurka> writev(2, [{"/usr/lib/firefox/firefox", 24}, {": ", 2}, {"relocation error", 16}, {": ", 2}, {"/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgss"..., 45}, {": ", 2}, {"symbol krb5_cc_select, version k"..., 99}, {"", 0}, {"", 0}, {"\n", 1}], 10/usr/lib/firefox/firefox: relocation error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2: symbol krb5_cc_select, version krb5_3_MIT not defined in file libkrb5.so.3 with link time reference
[14:25] <yossarianuk> spidernik: you should possibly be able to see app armor messages in dmesg ot syslog
[14:25] <dalurka> regarding spiderniks issue
[14:28] <caribou>  /13
[14:30] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[14:31] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm trying to install the sql virtual user function of the mail server by seeing https://www.exratione.com/2014/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1404-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[14:32] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I want to keep my system account, too. But when I uncomment #!include auth-sql.conf.ext of /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-auth.conf
[14:32] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ,
[14:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> >Mar  4 23:23:08 gateway dovecot: auth-worker: Fatal: master: service(auth-worker): child 14791 killed with signal 11 (core dumped)
[14:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> >Mar  4 23:23:08 gateway dovecot: auth: Error: auth worker: Aborted request: Worker process died unexpectedly
[14:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> happens...
[14:43] <arcsky> Is there any good mangment tool for make daily mangment work with my ubuntu servers ~10-15 servers ?
[15:00] <Sling> arcsky: what kind of work? examples?
[15:00] <Sling> I would suggest puppet for changes to configuration/packages/etc
[15:02] <caribou> nevermind my silly question; I used a config file :-/
[15:08] <arcsky> Sling: config/packages/Security updates i want a simple mgmt system i have look for Landscape, ist bad? Puppet seems advance ?
[15:08] <MalMen> hello, im here trying to make one pppd connection.. this is the thing.. i already made the connection, now i need to route the adress's 10.12.12.x for that pppd (ppp0) hwo can i do that ?
[15:08] <MalMen> i dont understund well the foruns
[15:09] <Sling> arcsky: puppet is the future, landscape isn't ;)
[15:09] <Sling> so if you care about being relevant in IT in the future, I strongly suggest learning about puppet
[15:09] <Sling> even though it's a new way of thinking about server management
[15:10] <Sling> as for security updates: unattended-upgrades
[15:10] <OpenTokix> Sling: wrong, - Config managment is the future. - puppet is a tool among many. - puppet dont scale well
[15:10] <ogra_> lol
[15:11] <OpenTokix> Learn about config managment, and use whatever tool
[15:11] <ogra_> puppet is nearly a decade old ... i wonder whats "new" about it
[15:11] <OpenTokix> landscape is very basic
[15:12] <Sling> OpenTokix: sure but if you can use puppet, you can use most other tools like it
[15:12] <Sling> anyway I don't want to turn this into the puppet vs chef vs <rest> discussion :)
[15:12] <Sling> use whatever you feel comfortable using, as long as its not manually logging into servers anymore
[15:12] <ogra_> if you want to be relevant for the future you better look into cloud mgmt tools like juju ... :)
[15:13] <OpenTokix> And version control
[15:22] <arcsky> OpenTokix: what config mangment tool do you recommend? i looking for a simple
[15:23] <OpenTokix> arcsky: the learning curve for it, is quite high  - but it will make youre life so much easier in the long run.
[15:23] <arcsky> I work with network and security dont wanna be a server guy ;)
[15:24] <OpenTokix> arcsky: I would check out puppet, chef, cfengine, saltstack, ansible today. - I personally use cfengine3 since it suits me perfectly.
[15:24] <OpenTokix> arcsky: I work with everything.
[15:24] <arcsky> OpenTokix: ok thanks i will check them out
[15:24] <OpenTokix> arcsky: puppet is the one with the most online resouces, and copy/paste-able stuff.
[15:24] <arcsky> coolers
[15:24] <OpenTokix> arcsky: however, it does not scale past 5000 hosts. - But if that isnt an issue you can ignore the "scaling issues"
[15:25] <arcsky> not an issue
[15:45] <frobware> Is it realistic for me to boot the vivid 3.19 kernel on trusty ARM 64?
[15:52] <strikov> frobware: you may want to ask this question at #hyperscale
[15:53] <genii> Or possibly #ubuntu-arm, if anyone's currently awake in there
[15:53] <frobware> strikov, genii: ok & thx.
[15:54] <strikov> frobware: genii is right, #ubuntu-arm is the best place
[15:54] <frobware> strikov, heading there now. :)
[16:11] <sarthor> HI,using ubuntu-server,  according to this link " http://mpcabd.igeex.biz/python-arabic-text-reshaper/ " When I try to instal " l pip install https://github.com/mpcabd/python-arabic-reshaper/archive/master.zip " so it give this error http://pastebin.com/H1KtwfaY HELP please.
[16:38] <JanC> sarthor: as the error message says, there is no setup.py in that zip file; just unpack the zip in the directory you want it to be
[16:45] <samba35> i am uisn gubuntu 14.04.2 as host and i have 2 guest ,i am using openvswitch with bridge mode but many time openvswitch/brctl doesnt startup  then i have to add eth1 to bridge and after that it work but not always
[16:50] <sarthor> JanC, I unpacked and there is setup.py file.
[19:42] <thor77> hey, i want to use one package from debian-experimental. whats the best way to do this?
[19:43] <sarnold> thor77: read about pinning, in apt_preferences(5)
[19:44] <genii> thor77: What package?
[19:44] <thor77> genii: munin
[19:44] <sarnold> thor77: I'd be tempted to just wget + dpkg -i the thing, but that would make future updates more difficult than it should be. might as well do it right...
[19:44] <thor77> genii: i want to use version 2.1
[19:44] <thor77> genii: but ubuntu provides only 2.0
[19:47] <pmatulis> thor77: a PPA maybe - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=munin
[19:47] <pmatulis> but careful, anyone can bake one
[19:49] <thor77> pmatulis: cant find munin 2.1 there, only 2.0 or older :/
[19:49] <pmatulis> thor77: bummer.  you can make one yourself i suppose.  it's not too hard.  makes it complicated if the package has a lot of dependencies
[19:50] <thor77> http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/munin looks like it has a lot of dependencies
[19:51] <genii> Yup. So that's why using a Debian repo to get it is probably asking for dependency hell
[19:52] <RoyK> thor77: better compile munin .1 from scratch
[19:52] <RoyK> thor77: better compile munin 2.1 from scratch
[19:53] <RoyK> thor77: munin 2.1 is a development track
[19:53] <thor77> RoyK: munin-dev said to me i should use deb-repo because its a pain^^
[19:54] <RoyK> thor77: the do that in a vm
[19:54] <RoyK> thor77: don't use deb-testing repos on a prod box
[19:54] <RoyK> or deb-unstable - it breaks things
[19:55] <genii> Interestingly 2.1.6 released March 9 2014, 2.0.25 released November 24 2014 ...so 2.025 is actually a later release
[19:55] <RoyK> not very interesting - 2.0 is the stable track - 2.1 is the development track
[19:55] <sarnold> but if their newest 'dev' is nearly a year old..
[19:56] <RoyK> sarnold: then it's probably better to use the code from git ;)
[19:56] <RoyK> doesn't look like the munin guys are releasing much devel versions
[19:57] <sarnold> RoyK: yeah, if it's any newer..
[19:57] <thor77> http://demo.munin-monitoring.org/ <- 2.1 2.0 -> http://munin.crapwa.re
[19:57] <thor77> i like the new design
[19:58] <sarnold> crapwa.re, hehe
[19:58] <thor77> i like my domain ;)
[19:59] <sarnold> thor77: oh, heh, i missed that :) nice
[19:59] <RoyK> sarnold: there are daily patches submitted to git
[20:07] <genii> thor77: You might try apt-get build-dep munin for the version that's currently in Ubuntu, then wget the debian package and attempt dpkg -i on it and see if it groans
[20:08] <RoyK> thor77: doesn't look like you've configured fastcgi correctly ;)
[20:09] <thor77> RoyK: yes, its a pain with nginx and i dont need it
[20:09] <RoyK> http://munin.crapwa.re/static/dynazoom.html?cgiurl_graph=/munin-cgi/munin-cgi-graph&plugin_name=crapwa.re/fire.crapwa.re/diskstats_iops/xvda&size_x=800&size_y=400&start_epoch=1424808308&stop_epoch=1425499508
[20:09] <RoyK> zooming doesn't work without it
[20:09] <thor77> i know
[20:09] <thor77> but i dont need zooming
[20:09] <RoyK> I use that regularly
[20:10] <thor77> or better: i tried to configure it a few times with no success and no i gave up because i dont really need this
[20:11] <thor77> but if you have a working configuration with nginx, i would be happy if you would send it to me :)
[20:11]  * RoyK has 100+ machines in munin and tend to need it some times
[20:12] <thor77> do you have one with nginx? :P
[20:12] <RoyK> just using apache for this - it's dead easy to configure and with 100+ machines monitored, it won't make a difference performance wise
[20:12] <RoyK> nope - I rarely use nginx - just for small things - better try to ask on #munin @OFTC
[20:14] <RoyK> thor77: why do you need 2.1?
[20:14] <thor77> RoyK: new beautiful design
[20:16] <RoyK> a little more flashy design isn't really a lot compared to the dependency hell you might be having by adding experimental repos
[20:17] <thor77> RoyK: maybe you're right. i think i will wait until the update is available in the official repos :)
[20:18] <thor77> and maybe i will setup apache, php is much less pain with it
[20:18] <RoyK> last time I tested php with nginx, it was rather easy
[20:19] <RoyK> used it with wordpress
[20:19] <RoyK> but ditched nginx because of some modules I use with apache
[20:25] <thor77> until know i found nothing that doesnt work with nginx but does with apache and i like the configuration from nginx
[20:28]  * RoyK sets up nginx vm for testing on 1404
[22:17] <sudormrf> hey all, does anyone in here happen to know if there exists an nrpe plugin to monitor hdd temperatures?
[22:29] <ikonia> sudormrf: there is an lmsensors nrpe module
[22:30] <sudormrf> ikonia, can lmsensors read hdd temps?  I installed lmsensors and it was only looking at stuff on the mobo
[22:30] <ikonia> the hd temps are fed to the system over the motherboard
[22:30] <sudormrf> hmm.  when I run "sensors" and do the initial setup, then run the command again the individual drive temps are not returned
[22:31] <ikonia> not all motherboards monitor hd temps
[22:32] <ikonia> depends on the controller chipset if the hard disk can report back
[22:32] <sudormrf> gotcha
[22:32] <sudormrf> well it looks like mine doesn't.
[22:32] <sudormrf> hddtemp returns the data (as does smartmontools), would prefer the data from smartmontool
[22:36] <sudormrf> trying to install this one: https://github.com/vint21h/nagios-check-hddtemp#installation but the installation instructions are lacking.  I ran the steps listed, but am not seeing what I think should be right
[23:17] <sudormrf> ok, next question.  smartctl works locally on the machine, however nagios is saying this" CRITICAL - SMART_ENABLE: Inappropriate ioctl for device "
[23:18] <sudormrf> this drive IS part of an mdadm array.
[23:18] <sudormrf> however it is also saying that for a drive that is not part of that array
[23:18] <bekks> sudormrf: smartctl does not work on mdadm devices.
[23:18] <bekks> It works on physical devices only.
[23:19] <sudormrf> bekks, the command is checking /dev/sda
[23:20] <sudormrf> instead of /dev/md0
[23:20] <sudormrf> running smartctl -a /dev/sda on the device it works
[23:20] <bekks> And is that exactly the command which is run by nagios?
[23:20] <sudormrf> good question
[23:21] <sudormrf> let me check
[23:22] <sudormrf> hmm.  looks slightly different.
[23:22] <sudormrf> maybe? not sure
[23:27] <sudormrf> running the plugin against the drive manually, not with nrpe, it returns reslts
[23:27] <sudormrf> results
[23:27] <sudormrf> odd
[23:52] <teward> is there a way to set up a mailing list / alias feature in Postfix, or do i have to set up mailman and dovecot and postfix
[23:54] <sarnold> teward: http://www.postfix.org/aliases.5.html
[23:55] <teward> sarnold: any other setup needed, such as DNS changes?
[23:55]  * teward is not sure what else he needs :/
[23:56] <sarnold> teward: depends, this is very primitive, but doesn't require much.
[23:56] <teward> mmm
[23:56] <sarnold> mail to foo@example gets exp0loded... that's it.
[23:57] <teward> oh, dear...
[23:57] <teward> welp, that explains that...
[23:57] <teward> "Network is unreachable"
[23:57] <teward> i wonder if my rules are too restrictive
[23:58] <teward> ooo also timeout
[23:58] <teward> s
[23:58] <teward> no wonder its not working