| Symmetria | sup ;p | 03:46 |
|---|---|---|
| barrydk | More almal | 04:26 |
| Kilos | morning barrydk mazal inetpro nlsthzn_ and others | 05:45 |
| mazal | More oom | 05:46 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: OOM also means Out of Memory... when the Linux kernel runs out of RAM and has to kill stuff. :) | 05:55 |
| mazal | lol | 05:55 |
| Kilos | lol ya thats me for definite stickyboy good morning | 05:55 |
| stickyboy | Morning | 05:58 |
| stickyboy | Trying to get quotes for some RAID controller parts. | 05:58 |
| stickyboy | And the supplier sent a quote for something... similar... but not right. | 05:59 |
| stickyboy | Always gets tricky from there! | 05:59 |
| Kilos | speak to Symmetria | 05:59 |
| Kilos | or is he your competition | 05:59 |
| stickyboy | Kilos: Nope. | 06:06 |
| stickyboy | I don't have any competition. :P | 06:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:07 |
| Kilos | look in all your stuff thats in the discard bin after upgrading, im looking for a scsi controller card thing so i can play and learn a bit more | 06:08 |
| Kilos | i have a scsi drive to play with | 06:10 |
| Padroni | Morning | 07:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 07:37 |
| mopkop | Good Morning all! | 07:44 |
| Padroni | how are you all this morning? | 08:04 |
| Padroni | Had the hottest day in 100 years in CT yesterday :/ | 08:04 |
| mopkop | Good morning Padroni! Here the weather is very nice! What was the temp? | 08:06 |
| Padroni | 42 here by me | 08:07 |
| Padroni | 45 in Paarl, aparently | 08:07 |
| Padroni | i almost died in my office from heat stroke | 08:07 |
| mopkop | How do you regulate your temperature in such heat? | 08:08 |
| mopkop | I hope it doesn't blow this way. | 08:08 |
| Padroni | gale-force winds the previous day | 08:08 |
| Padroni | no wind yesterday | 08:08 |
| Padroni | in my office? | 08:08 |
| Padroni | I have a fan | 08:08 |
| Padroni | fighting a losing battle at that, but still | 08:08 |
| Padroni | I have a aircon but it is noisy | 08:09 |
| Padroni | so I do not use it | 08:09 |
| mopkop | I can imagine the fan doesn't do much in this heat... | 08:09 |
| Padroni | it rearranges the dust | 08:13 |
| Padroni | but that is all | 08:13 |
| Padroni | that is the other thing | 08:13 |
| Padroni | this wind blows in SO MUCH DUST it is unbelievable | 08:14 |
| Padroni | I am getting tired of wiping down my computers and monitors | 08:14 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:43 |
| mopkop | Good morning inetpro! | 08:46 |
| mopkop | So I fixed that irritating menu overlay on the website. | 08:47 |
| mopkop | I proposed a merge, but after that I made a small adjustment. Should I propose the merge again? | 08:47 |
| inetpro | superfly: ^^ ? | 08:50 |
| * inetpro not sure | 08:50 | |
| superfly | yes, there's a "resubmit" link on the right | 08:57 |
| inetpro | ah, thanks superfly | 08:58 |
| inetpro | mopkop: see that ^^ ? | 08:58 |
| mopkop | I see! Done. Ready for review :) | 08:59 |
| Padroni | make the links to social media target="_blank" | 09:02 |
| Padroni | else it loads in the current window and takes you away from the site | 09:02 |
| Padroni | Example: change this: <a href="https://twitter.com/ubuntuza"><span class="fa fa-twitter fa-fw"></span> Twitter</a> | 09:03 |
| Padroni | to this | 09:03 |
| Padroni | <a href="https://twitter.com/ubuntuza" target="_blank"><span class="fa fa-twitter fa-fw"></span> Twitter</a> | 09:03 |
| * inetpro just uses middleclick for opening links in tabs | 09:04 | |
| * Padroni shakes head | 09:05 | |
| Padroni | Nevermind then. | 09:05 |
| inetpro | Padroni: fix it :-) | 09:05 |
| mopkop | I agree with Padroni. | 09:05 |
| inetpro | mopkop: please change it while you're at it | 09:06 |
| mopkop | Ok. | 09:09 |
| mopkop | Doing it in NIkola is a bit more difficult than simply editing the html. Or at least until I figure out how :? | 09:10 |
| Padroni | This is why I refuse to use Nikola. | 09:11 |
| Padroni | Or get involved with this site. I can edit code quicker in notepad. | 09:11 |
| mopkop | Yes, but you'll have to edit it for every page. | 09:12 |
| mopkop | Good morning magellanic! | 09:14 |
| magellanic | heya :) | 09:14 |
| superfly | Padroni: 1995 called, they want their _blank back | 09:15 |
| mopkop | lol | 09:15 |
| Padroni | Like I said : nevermind. | 09:15 |
| inetpro | ai! | 09:16 |
| andrewlsd | 2 | 09:21 |
| inetpro | 1 | 09:21 |
| inetpro | wb andrewlsd | 09:22 |
| andrewlsd | hehe. slip of the finger. | 09:22 |
| andrewlsd | ty inetpro. | 09:22 |
| andrewlsd | Hello all. | 09:22 |
| mopkop | Hello andrewlsd! | 09:23 |
| magellanic | at least not 40C today andrewlsd | 09:24 |
| magellanic | :) | 09:24 |
| andrewlsd | yip. was 46 in Durbanville yesterday. First time in ages that the air temperature was burning my skin even in the shade. | 09:24 |
| andrewlsd | crazily, my pool was 20 | 09:25 |
| andrewlsd | ... so half in pool: lower half aching from cold, upper half burning from heat. | 09:25 |
| magellanic | yeah it was a record breaking day for Cpt I believe | 09:25 |
| andrewlsd | magellanic, yes, so I hear. Although Cape Town usually has 1 or two days per year where it reaches 40. Usually Feb. | 09:26 |
| andrewlsd | temp usually measured at CT airport, so CBD is usually couple of degrees warmer. | 09:26 |
| andrewlsd | coz it's a topographical 'bowl' | 09:27 |
| magellanic | yeah | 09:27 |
| andrewlsd | it's started raining today. so that's super news for the firefighters, most of which are volunteers (http://www.vws.org.za) | 09:28 |
| magellanic | glad, shame they are still battling those fires | 09:28 |
| andrewlsd | ... in other news... not sure what is going to happen this weekend, since the @CycleTourSA is due to happen on Sunday and it pretty much traverses the area affected by the fires. | 09:28 |
| * andrewlsd lurks | 09:34 | |
| magellanic | wish them luck, I need a relaxing weekend.., may go checkout the ctpug meet | 09:37 |
| inetpro | are these fires as bad as this one every year or was this one more hectic than other years? | 09:39 |
| magellanic | this one was worse, terms of ground coverage, I think | 09:40 |
| andrewlsd | +1 magellanic | 09:42 |
| superfly | the last fire that was nearly this bad was 12 years ago | 09:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so for anyone who may have been considering purchasing from the orange store, please spare yourself the pain and just don't | 09:53 |
| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: eh? | 09:53 |
| superfly | For the most part I've only heard good. What happened? | 09:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | purchasing isn't so bad, but when you need to return a phone, you are in for a world of pain | 09:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the wife's touchscreen became unresponsive, about the top 1.5cm or so | 09:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | seems to be a known issue with the model as far as i can tell | 09:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | took about a month to have it "repaired" and sent back, same issue | 09:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | after much nagging, got them to have a courier collect the phone, wasn't going to pay to send it to them again | 09:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | they eventually agree that they will replace the phone since the repair wasn't successful | 09:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | except when the phone arrives they decide no, they will try the repair again | 09:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | eventually she calls me yesterday. she has the phone, what is the problem, she wants to test the phone before sending it back | 09:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | explain the problem, she tests, reports its is working perfectly | 09:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you already know how this story ends... | 09:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | thankfully they are based in jhb or it might've ended with me in prison | 09:56 |
| confluency | "working perfectly" = "I couldn't be arsed to read your actual complaint, so I looked at it for five seconds and it looks fine"? | 09:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | this has been a 2 month process of begging and nagging every. single. day. | 09:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yes exactly | 09:57 |
| confluency | Ahhhh, I've heard this song before. | 09:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | her latest reply is "oh then is must be a software issue, please ensure the software is up-to-date" | 09:58 |
| confluency | (But with oven hotplates.) | 09:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i would get a screen off ebay and do it myself, but there's reports that people who've tried that have had the problem persist :-/ | 09:58 |
| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: which phone is that? | 09:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so caveat emptor, is all I'm saying | 09:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sony xperia sp | 09:59 |
| superfly | ah, OK | 09:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | https://www.google.co.za/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=sony%20xperia%20sp%20part%20of%20screen%20unresponsive | 09:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I emailed the complaints dept of the national consumer council who are supposed to be guardians of the CPA, but I'm not going to hold my breath | 10:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I suspect Sony ZA will tell me to get lost as these are actually grey imports | 10:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hopefully my Moto G doesn't break down | 10:02 |
| superfly | You should be able to take it to SonyZA, but they will might you pay for it | 10:03 |
| superfly | *might make | 10:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | maybe I should just try them | 10:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nothing to lose | 10:03 |
| TinuvaMac | i have nothing but good stuff to say about my sony xperia | 10:06 |
| TinuvaMac | its a z1 compact though | 10:07 |
| TinuvaMac | love this phone | 10:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no, the phone is great, it's Orange SA's service that is shockingly bad | 10:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it has a fault, it happens | 10:07 |
| TinuvaMac | ah yes ofc | 10:08 |
| highvoltage | ThatGraemeGuy: ah that's good to know, I was considering buying from ogange SA | 10:14 |
| superfly | Like I said, I know a couple of people who haven't had any issues. But I don't think they've needed to return anything. | 10:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah the purchase process is not an issue | 10:17 |
| Squirm | Hello | 10:24 |
| superfly | hey Squirm, surviving? | 10:25 |
| Squirm | superfly: Being smoked out a bit | 10:26 |
| Squirm | Well, I'm ok, because I'm in an office. But the guys have closed a few warehouse doors | 10:26 |
| mopkop | Hello Squirm! | 10:26 |
| Squirm | superfly: are you based on Capricorn side of Muizenberg? | 10:27 |
| mopkop | Apparently it is impossible to do the target="_blank" in the menu items with nikola. | 10:27 |
| andrewlsd | Hi peeps, any of you folks "steam" users. I've never been a gamer :-( but am thinking of having a look at Steam. Any thoughts, gotcha's, etc would be appreciated. | 10:42 |
| Squirm | andrewlsd: not really | 10:54 |
| Squirm | It just likes updating a lot | 10:54 |
| andrewlsd | Squirm: I see that. ;-( | 10:55 |
| magellanic | andrewlsd: I haven't used it either (also not a gamer), but heard good things about it | 11:04 |
| andrewlsd | just getting my first steam game now. 10GB. | 11:07 |
| andrewlsd | flip, that'll take days.... | 11:07 |
| magellanic | :p | 11:15 |
| magellanic | which game? | 11:15 |
| andrewlsd | War Thunder (72MB of 9.7GB downloaded) | 11:15 |
| * andrewlsd thinks a smaller game would have been better to start with | 11:15 | |
| andrewlsd | any suggestions for a quick (small) game to try? | 11:15 |
| magellanic | can't you stop and resume it | 11:15 |
| magellanic | we are steam partners, but I don't what that means yet :p | 11:17 |
| TinuvaMac | you can pause steam games | 11:19 |
| TinuvaMac | you can even schedule it to only downloads from like midnight to 6am if you want | 11:19 |
| andrewlsd | ... it looked like you can schedule it to only download "updates" during certain time periods. but not schedule a new game download | 11:23 |
| Kilos | power just came back on | 11:24 |
| Kilos | hi andrewlsd | 11:24 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos, wb | 11:24 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:25 |
| mopkop | Hello Kilos! | 11:31 |
| mopkop | Can we perhaps move the social links on the website to the footer? On Trello I put an example of how it would look like. | 11:37 |
| === Kilos is now known as Kilosyou | ||
| Kilosyou | you need to talk to inetpro and superfly about that lad | 11:38 |
| Padroni | hi Kilosyou | 11:39 |
| Kilosyou | hi Padroni | 11:40 |
| Kilosyou | mopkop exlpain here why you think it will be better and let them decide | 11:40 |
| Kilosyou | maybe put your thoughts in a comment in trello too | 11:41 |
| mopkop | Ok :) | 11:41 |
| mopkop | It's really just because the top menu looks overpopulated. | 11:42 |
| mopkop | It is this overpopulation that caused the overlay problem. | 11:42 |
| mopkop | Also, I think it looks better on the bottom. | 11:42 |
| mopkop | And I can add target="_blank" to it :) | 11:43 |
| mopkop | Which is the reason I tried to do it in the first place. | 11:43 |
| Kilosyou | what happened my nick | 11:44 |
| === Kilosyou is now known as Kilos | ||
| inetpro | mopkop: what do you mean with it's overpopulated? | 11:52 |
| mopkop | inetpro: Too much menu Items. | 11:53 |
| mopkop | Go to the current website and resize the width to about 900px | 11:53 |
| inetpro | it wraps at 900px width | 11:54 |
| mopkop | Yes, try to read the top text now. | 11:54 |
| inetpro | I can read it | 11:54 |
| mopkop | Does'nt the forum menu go to the next line? | 11:55 |
| mopkop | Try the 'Getting started' page. | 11:56 |
| mopkop | It is this problem I fixed with the merge I proposed. | 11:56 |
| inetpro | oh yes, I see what you mean... when going to 'Getting Started' | 11:56 |
| mopkop | But it would be better if we just make the menu smaller. | 11:57 |
| inetpro | change Getting Started to Get Started and Getting Involved to Get Involved | 11:58 |
| superfly | Or, stop adding so many pages. | 11:58 |
| superfly | I wanted like a 1 page site. | 11:58 |
| superfly | I don't want to sit with the same problem I've had for like the last 8 years... a big fat website on my hands, and no one wants to help me maintain it. No thank you. | 11:59 |
| Kilos | hi mage | 11:59 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 11:59 |
| Kilos | magespawn too | 11:59 |
| mopkop | Hello magespawn! | 12:00 |
| magespawn | i accept that as a shortening | 12:00 |
| magespawn | hi mopkop | 12:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:00 |
| inetpro | superfly: hmm... at least we already have like 4 or 5 people involved again but I agree we should perhaps cut down on content | 12:03 |
| inetpro | doing the Nikola thing is fun at this point | 12:03 |
| inetpro | mopkop: perhaps 'LoCo Links' should become just 'Links' as well and then add the social media items in the same list | 12:06 |
| mopkop | Changing 'getting' to 'get' works, but The logo is still on a separate line. | 12:08 |
| mopkop | There is another reason I wish the Social links to be at the bottom. Actually a few reasons. | 12:09 |
| mopkop | For one, it whould be nice if you clicked it and it opens in a new tab. Nikola doesn't allow this with menu links. | 12:09 |
| mopkop | Perhaps I can do both, But the links menu-list should not be too long. | 12:11 |
| inetpro | Maaz: is http://www.ubuntu.com/ up? | 12:42 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Yes, http://www.ubuntu.com/ is up | 12:42 |
| inetpro | Maaz: is https://www.ubuntu.com/ up? | 12:42 |
| Maaz | inetpro: No, https://www.ubuntu.com/ is down (Server is not responding) | 12:43 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 12:43 |
| mopkop | wierd... | 12:49 |
| mopkop | https://code.launchpad.net/~prysdieheer/ubuntu-za/menu-revisions - incase anyone wanted to test the changes. I'm not going to propose a merge yet, it's just to compare | 12:49 |
| mopkop | bzr branch lp:~prysdieheer/ubuntu-za/menu-revisions | 12:49 |
| inetpro | mopkop: good idea... I'll check later | 12:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos: check it so long on your side | 12:51 |
| inetpro | and anyone else for that matter | 12:51 |
| * andrewlsd returns | 13:27 | |
| mopkop | Welcome back! | 13:27 |
| andrewlsd | any lucky peeps here already ordered an Ubuntu Phone? | 13:27 |
| magellanic | not me | 13:28 |
| andrewlsd | cheerio folks | 14:12 |
| inetpro | ai! | 15:32 |
| inetpro | somebody ate my cheese | 15:32 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:33 |
| Kilos | at home or at work? | 15:33 |
| Kilos | lol nlsthzn_ i see the UAE has a cricket team at the world cup | 15:52 |
| Kilos | inetpro what are you breaking again | 15:54 |
| Kilos | no wonder they stole your cheese | 15:54 |
| Kilos | hi clr mopkop | 16:27 |
| mopkop | Hello again... | 16:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm here, you need something? | 16:51 |
| Kilos | nope ty i just saw you all part/join | 16:52 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 16:56 |
| inetpro | mopkop: you completely removed social media links at the top now? | 16:56 |
| mopkop | Yes. Or do you think I should but it in the links? | 16:57 |
| inetpro | not sure what other think but I kinda like it at the top and bottom | 16:58 |
| inetpro | others | 16:59 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 16:59 |
| inetpro | definitily looks better with less menu choices at the top | 17:05 |
| inetpro | do we really need 'Home' when the logo takes us home? | 17:06 |
| mopkop | Yea, I think we can remove it too. What do you guys think? | 17:11 |
| * inetpro likes it without 'Home' and with just 'Links' and 'Social' | 17:14 | |
| * inetpro will wait for others to chime in | 17:15 | |
| inetpro | Forums should actually fall under Links as well if you ask me | 17:19 |
| mopkop | Noted. | 17:19 |
| inetpro | and then 'Ask Ubuntu' http://askubuntu.com/ as well | 17:20 |
| mopkop | But it's not really part of the Loco. | 17:20 |
| mopkop | Maybe we should make a 'help' menu for these 2 links. | 17:20 |
| inetpro | hmm,,, | 17:20 |
| mopkop | Pushed the changes. You can update the branch now. | 17:48 |
| mopkop | On your computer I mean. | 17:48 |
| mopkop | And check out the changes. | 17:48 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:58 |
| inetpro | mopkop: nice! | 18:04 |
| mopkop | Evening magespawn | 18:13 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:15 |
| Kilos | looks fine to me mopkop | 18:15 |
| inetpro | uh, be a bit more critical man | 18:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:22 |
| Kilos | i like the twit place and fb at the bottom | 18:22 |
| inetpro | we prefer your honest opinion Kilos :-) | 18:22 |
| Kilos | i have liked the site from the begiining and now it looks a bit better imo. i dont enjoy all sites making that social stuff very prominent | 18:24 |
| Kilos | but you have to convince the fly not me | 18:24 |
| mopkop | superfly? | 18:25 |
| mopkop | What do you think? | 18:25 |
| superfly | people always want to know your Fakebook page, etc, so in this day and age, it is important to make them prominent. | 18:29 |
| superfly | most of OpenLP's PR is done via Facebook. We post news on our site, but then push it through to Facebook, Twitter and Google+ | 18:30 |
| * inetpro also feels the social media links should be quite prominent | 18:30 | |
| inetpro | superfly: how do you like the Help links? | 18:31 |
| Kilos | i accept your decisions, just im not a fb twitter fan like others | 18:31 |
| Kilos | my own opinion | 18:32 |
| superfly | As I said before, the simpler the site the better, but I don't have time to look at this right now. I have work to do on DebConf16 | 18:32 |
| mopkop | Hmm, both then? | 18:33 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:33 |
| inetpro | mopkop: we don't have to rush the updates anyway | 18:33 |
| Kilos | patience is a virtue | 18:34 |
| mopkop | Yes, no rush :) | 18:34 |
| inetpro | superfly: what do you have to do now about DebConf16? | 18:36 |
| superfly | inetpro: everything! | 18:36 |
| superfly | well, not quite, but I've got some things I need to get done before out meeting at 9:30 | 18:37 |
| inetpro | hmm... ok | 18:37 |
| Kilos | dont nag my fly | 18:37 |
| Kilos | Padroni you still here so late? | 18:38 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:38 |
| inetpro | superfly: meetings online on IRC or physical? | 18:38 |
| superfly | IRC | 18:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nagging, what's that? | 18:38 |
| Kilos | hee hee that thing you so good at | 18:39 |
| Kilos | RTFS | 18:39 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:42 |
| Kilos | gotcha | 18:42 |
| Kilos | i havent even looked at other drives for about 2 months now | 18:43 |
| Kilos | hi qwebirc7065 | 18:59 |
| Padroni | I am here | 18:59 |
| Padroni | What's up? | 18:59 |
| Kilos | not much you just been quiet | 18:59 |
| Padroni | I switch between working and playing Warthunder | 19:00 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:00 |
| Kilos | is it an online game or can you play locally | 19:00 |
| Padroni | online | 19:07 |
| Padroni | you play against people all over the world | 19:07 |
| Kilos | ah thats why i didnt go for it a while back when i read about it | 19:07 |
| Padroni | in this last match, i was targeting a russian driving a german tank | 19:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:08 |
| Padroni | I was driving a IS-2 (russian) | 19:08 |
| mopkop | Good night everyone! | 19:41 |
| inetpro | uh | 19:44 |
| inetpro | why so quiet here? | 19:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm talking to you | 19:45 |
| Kilos | sorry | 19:45 |
| inetpro | and Padroni | 19:45 |
| inetpro | and all the others | 19:45 |
| Padroni | I am working / playing game | 19:45 |
| Kilos | i busy making a new shorter extension cord for here | 19:46 |
| Kilos | no need for 5m cable when 3 is enough | 19:46 |
| magespawn | power cable Kilos? | 20:00 |
| Kilos | yeah | 20:01 |
| magespawn | i think it is about bedtime for me | 20:02 |
| Kilos | me too i think | 20:02 |
| inetpro | me too | 20:02 |
| Kilos | night all . sleep tight | 20:02 |
| inetpro | goeie nag | 20:02 |
| magespawn | good night | 20:02 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap julle | 20:02 |
| Padroni | Nite | 20:19 |
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