[03:46] sup ;p [04:26] More almal [05:45] morning barrydk mazal inetpro nlsthzn_ and others [05:46] More oom [05:55] Kilos: OOM also means Out of Memory... when the Linux kernel runs out of RAM and has to kill stuff. :) [05:55] lol [05:55] lol ya thats me for definite stickyboy good morning [05:58] Morning [05:58] Trying to get quotes for some RAID controller parts. [05:59] And the supplier sent a quote for something... similar... but not right. [05:59] Always gets tricky from there! [05:59] speak to Symmetria [05:59] or is he your competition [06:06] Kilos: Nope. [06:07] I don't have any competition. :P [06:07] lol [06:08] look in all your stuff thats in the discard bin after upgrading, im looking for a scsi controller card thing so i can play and learn a bit more [06:10] i have a scsi drive to play with [07:25] Morning [07:37] mornings [07:44] Good Morning all! [08:04] how are you all this morning? [08:04] Had the hottest day in 100 years in CT yesterday :/ [08:06] Good morning Padroni! Here the weather is very nice! What was the temp? [08:07] 42 here by me [08:07] 45 in Paarl, aparently [08:07] i almost died in my office from heat stroke [08:08] How do you regulate your temperature in such heat? [08:08] I hope it doesn't blow this way. [08:08] gale-force winds the previous day [08:08] no wind yesterday [08:08] in my office? [08:08] I have a fan [08:08] fighting a losing battle at that, but still [08:09] I have a aircon but it is noisy [08:09] so I do not use it [08:09] I can imagine the fan doesn't do much in this heat... [08:13] it rearranges the dust [08:13] but that is all [08:13] that is the other thing [08:14] this wind blows in SO MUCH DUST it is unbelievable [08:14] I am getting tired of wiping down my computers and monitors [08:43] good mornings [08:46] Good morning inetpro! [08:47] So I fixed that irritating menu overlay on the website. [08:47] I proposed a merge, but after that I made a small adjustment. Should I propose the merge again? [08:50] superfly: ^^ ? [08:50] * inetpro not sure [08:57] yes, there's a "resubmit" link on the right [08:58] ah, thanks superfly [08:58] mopkop: see that ^^ ? [08:59] I see! Done. Ready for review :) [09:02] make the links to social media target="_blank" [09:02] else it loads in the current window and takes you away from the site [09:03] Example: change this: Twitter [09:03] to this [09:03] Twitter [09:04] * inetpro just uses middleclick for opening links in tabs [09:05] * Padroni shakes head [09:05] Nevermind then. [09:05] Padroni: fix it :-) [09:05] I agree with Padroni. [09:06] mopkop: please change it while you're at it [09:09] Ok. [09:10] Doing it in NIkola is a bit more difficult than simply editing the html. Or at least until I figure out how :? [09:11] This is why I refuse to use Nikola. [09:11] Or get involved with this site. I can edit code quicker in notepad. [09:12] Yes, but you'll have to edit it for every page. [09:14] Good morning magellanic! [09:14] heya :) [09:15] Padroni: 1995 called, they want their _blank back [09:15] lol [09:15] Like I said : nevermind. [09:16] ai! [09:21] 2 [09:21] 1 [09:22] wb andrewlsd [09:22] hehe. slip of the finger. [09:22] ty inetpro. [09:22] Hello all. [09:23] Hello andrewlsd! [09:24] at least not 40C today andrewlsd [09:24] :) [09:24] yip. was 46 in Durbanville yesterday. First time in ages that the air temperature was burning my skin even in the shade. [09:25] crazily, my pool was 20 [09:25] ... so half in pool: lower half aching from cold, upper half burning from heat. [09:25] yeah it was a record breaking day for Cpt I believe [09:26] magellanic, yes, so I hear. Although Cape Town usually has 1 or two days per year where it reaches 40. Usually Feb. [09:26] temp usually measured at CT airport, so CBD is usually couple of degrees warmer. [09:27] coz it's a topographical 'bowl' [09:27] yeah [09:28] it's started raining today. so that's super news for the firefighters, most of which are volunteers (http://www.vws.org.za) [09:28] glad, shame they are still battling those fires [09:28] ... in other news... not sure what is going to happen this weekend, since the @CycleTourSA is due to happen on Sunday and it pretty much traverses the area affected by the fires. [09:34] * andrewlsd lurks [09:37] wish them luck, I need a relaxing weekend.., may go checkout the ctpug meet [09:39] are these fires as bad as this one every year or was this one more hectic than other years? [09:40] this one was worse, terms of ground coverage, I think [09:42] +1 magellanic [09:52] the last fire that was nearly this bad was 12 years ago [09:53] so for anyone who may have been considering purchasing from the orange store, please spare yourself the pain and just don't [09:53] ThatGraemeGuy: eh? [09:53] For the most part I've only heard good. What happened? [09:53] purchasing isn't so bad, but when you need to return a phone, you are in for a world of pain [09:53] the wife's touchscreen became unresponsive, about the top 1.5cm or so [09:54] seems to be a known issue with the model as far as i can tell [09:54] took about a month to have it "repaired" and sent back, same issue [09:54] after much nagging, got them to have a courier collect the phone, wasn't going to pay to send it to them again [09:55] they eventually agree that they will replace the phone since the repair wasn't successful [09:55] except when the phone arrives they decide no, they will try the repair again [09:56] eventually she calls me yesterday. she has the phone, what is the problem, she wants to test the phone before sending it back [09:56] explain the problem, she tests, reports its is working perfectly [09:56] you already know how this story ends... [09:56] thankfully they are based in jhb or it might've ended with me in prison [09:57] "working perfectly" = "I couldn't be arsed to read your actual complaint, so I looked at it for five seconds and it looks fine"? [09:57] this has been a 2 month process of begging and nagging every. single. day. [09:57] yes exactly [09:57] Ahhhh, I've heard this song before. [09:58] her latest reply is "oh then is must be a software issue, please ensure the software is up-to-date" [09:58] (But with oven hotplates.) [09:58] i would get a screen off ebay and do it myself, but there's reports that people who've tried that have had the problem persist :-/ [09:59] ThatGraemeGuy: which phone is that? [09:59] so caveat emptor, is all I'm saying [09:59] sony xperia sp [09:59] ah, OK [09:59] https://www.google.co.za/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=sony%20xperia%20sp%20part%20of%20screen%20unresponsive [10:01] I emailed the complaints dept of the national consumer council who are supposed to be guardians of the CPA, but I'm not going to hold my breath [10:02] I suspect Sony ZA will tell me to get lost as these are actually grey imports [10:02] hopefully my Moto G doesn't break down [10:03] You should be able to take it to SonyZA, but they will might you pay for it [10:03] *might make [10:03] maybe I should just try them [10:03] nothing to lose [10:06] i have nothing but good stuff to say about my sony xperia [10:07] its a z1 compact though [10:07] love this phone [10:07] no, the phone is great, it's Orange SA's service that is shockingly bad [10:07] it has a fault, it happens [10:08] ah yes ofc [10:14] ThatGraemeGuy: ah that's good to know, I was considering buying from ogange SA [10:16] Like I said, I know a couple of people who haven't had any issues. But I don't think they've needed to return anything. [10:17] yeah the purchase process is not an issue [10:24] Hello [10:25] hey Squirm, surviving? [10:26] superfly: Being smoked out a bit [10:26] Well, I'm ok, because I'm in an office. But the guys have closed a few warehouse doors [10:26] Hello Squirm! [10:27] superfly: are you based on Capricorn side of Muizenberg? [10:27] Apparently it is impossible to do the target="_blank" in the menu items with nikola. [10:42] Hi peeps, any of you folks "steam" users. I've never been a gamer :-( but am thinking of having a look at Steam. Any thoughts, gotcha's, etc would be appreciated. [10:54] andrewlsd: not really [10:54] It just likes updating a lot [10:55] Squirm: I see that. ;-( [11:04] andrewlsd: I haven't used it either (also not a gamer), but heard good things about it [11:07] just getting my first steam game now. 10GB. [11:07] flip, that'll take days.... [11:15] :p [11:15] which game? [11:15] War Thunder (72MB of 9.7GB downloaded) [11:15] * andrewlsd thinks a smaller game would have been better to start with [11:15] any suggestions for a quick (small) game to try? [11:15] can't you stop and resume it [11:17] we are steam partners, but I don't what that means yet :p [11:19] you can pause steam games [11:19] you can even schedule it to only downloads from like midnight to 6am if you want [11:23] ... it looked like you can schedule it to only download "updates" during certain time periods. but not schedule a new game download [11:24] power just came back on [11:24] hi andrewlsd [11:24] Hi Kilos, wb [11:25] ty [11:31] Hello Kilos! [11:37] Can we perhaps move the social links on the website to the footer? On Trello I put an example of how it would look like. === Kilos is now known as Kilosyou [11:38] you need to talk to inetpro and superfly about that lad [11:39] hi Kilosyou [11:40] hi Padroni [11:40] mopkop exlpain here why you think it will be better and let them decide [11:41] maybe put your thoughts in a comment in trello too [11:41] Ok :) [11:42] It's really just because the top menu looks overpopulated. [11:42] It is this overpopulation that caused the overlay problem. [11:42] Also, I think it looks better on the bottom. [11:43] And I can add target="_blank" to it :) [11:43] Which is the reason I tried to do it in the first place. [11:44] what happened my nick === Kilosyou is now known as Kilos [11:52] mopkop: what do you mean with it's overpopulated? [11:53] inetpro: Too much menu Items. [11:53] Go to the current website and resize the width to about 900px [11:54] it wraps at 900px width [11:54] Yes, try to read the top text now. [11:54] I can read it [11:55] Does'nt the forum menu go to the next line? [11:56] Try the 'Getting started' page. [11:56] It is this problem I fixed with the merge I proposed. [11:56] oh yes, I see what you mean... when going to 'Getting Started' [11:57] But it would be better if we just make the menu smaller. [11:58] change Getting Started to Get Started and Getting Involved to Get Involved [11:58] Or, stop adding so many pages. [11:58] I wanted like a 1 page site. [11:59] I don't want to sit with the same problem I've had for like the last 8 years... a big fat website on my hands, and no one wants to help me maintain it. No thank you. [11:59] hi mage [11:59] hi Kilos [11:59] magespawn too [12:00] Hello magespawn! [12:00] i accept that as a shortening [12:00] hi mopkop [12:00] hehe [12:03] superfly: hmm... at least we already have like 4 or 5 people involved again but I agree we should perhaps cut down on content [12:03] doing the Nikola thing is fun at this point [12:06] mopkop: perhaps 'LoCo Links' should become just 'Links' as well and then add the social media items in the same list [12:08] Changing 'getting' to 'get' works, but The logo is still on a separate line. [12:09] There is another reason I wish the Social links to be at the bottom. Actually a few reasons. [12:09] For one, it whould be nice if you clicked it and it opens in a new tab. Nikola doesn't allow this with menu links. [12:11] Perhaps I can do both, But the links menu-list should not be too long. [12:42] Maaz: is http://www.ubuntu.com/ up? [12:42] inetpro: Yes, http://www.ubuntu.com/ is up [12:42] Maaz: is https://www.ubuntu.com/ up? [12:43] inetpro: No, https://www.ubuntu.com/ is down (Server is not responding) [12:43] hmm... [12:49] wierd... [12:49] https://code.launchpad.net/~prysdieheer/ubuntu-za/menu-revisions - incase anyone wanted to test the changes. I'm not going to propose a merge yet, it's just to compare [12:49] bzr branch lp:~prysdieheer/ubuntu-za/menu-revisions [12:50] mopkop: good idea... I'll check later [12:51] Kilos: check it so long on your side [12:51] and anyone else for that matter [13:27] * andrewlsd returns [13:27] Welcome back! [13:27] any lucky peeps here already ordered an Ubuntu Phone? [13:28] not me [14:12] cheerio folks [15:32] ai! [15:32] somebody ate my cheese [15:33] lol [15:33] at home or at work? [15:52] lol nlsthzn_ i see the UAE has a cricket team at the world cup [15:54] inetpro what are you breaking again [15:54] no wonder they stole your cheese [16:27] hi clr mopkop [16:28] Hello again... [16:51] Kilos: I'm here, you need something? [16:52] nope ty i just saw you all part/join [16:56] hmm... [16:56] mopkop: you completely removed social media links at the top now? [16:57] Yes. Or do you think I should but it in the links? [16:58] not sure what other think but I kinda like it at the top and bottom [16:59] others [16:59] i go eat [17:05] definitily looks better with less menu choices at the top [17:06] do we really need 'Home' when the logo takes us home? [17:11] Yea, I think we can remove it too. What do you guys think? [17:14] * inetpro likes it without 'Home' and with just 'Links' and 'Social' [17:15] * inetpro will wait for others to chime in [17:19] Forums should actually fall under Links as well if you ask me [17:19] Noted. [17:20] and then 'Ask Ubuntu' http://askubuntu.com/ as well [17:20] But it's not really part of the Loco. [17:20] Maybe we should make a 'help' menu for these 2 links. [17:20] hmm,,, [17:48] Pushed the changes. You can update the branch now. [17:48] On your computer I mean. [17:48] And check out the changes. [17:58] good evening [18:04] mopkop: nice! [18:13] Evening magespawn [18:15] hi magespawn [18:15] looks fine to me mopkop [18:21] uh, be a bit more critical man [18:22] lol [18:22] i like the twit place and fb at the bottom [18:22] we prefer your honest opinion Kilos :-) [18:24] i have liked the site from the begiining and now it looks a bit better imo. i dont enjoy all sites making that social stuff very prominent [18:24] but you have to convince the fly not me [18:25] superfly? [18:25] What do you think? [18:29] people always want to know your Fakebook page, etc, so in this day and age, it is important to make them prominent. [18:30] most of OpenLP's PR is done via Facebook. We post news on our site, but then push it through to Facebook, Twitter and Google+ [18:30] * inetpro also feels the social media links should be quite prominent [18:31] superfly: how do you like the Help links? [18:31] i accept your decisions, just im not a fb twitter fan like others [18:32] my own opinion [18:32] As I said before, the simpler the site the better, but I don't have time to look at this right now. I have work to do on DebConf16 [18:33] Hmm, both then? [18:33] ai! [18:33] mopkop: we don't have to rush the updates anyway [18:34] patience is a virtue [18:34] Yes, no rush :) [18:36] superfly: what do you have to do now about DebConf16? [18:36] inetpro: everything! [18:37] well, not quite, but I've got some things I need to get done before out meeting at 9:30 [18:37] hmm... ok [18:37] dont nag my fly [18:38] Padroni you still here so late? [18:38] sjoe [18:38] superfly: meetings online on IRC or physical? [18:38] IRC [18:38] Kilos: nagging, what's that? [18:39] hee hee that thing you so good at [18:39] RTFS [18:40] ai! [18:42] lol [18:42] gotcha [18:43] i havent even looked at other drives for about 2 months now [18:59] hi qwebirc7065 [18:59] I am here [18:59] What's up? [18:59] not much you just been quiet [19:00] I switch between working and playing Warthunder [19:00] hahaha [19:00] is it an online game or can you play locally [19:07] online [19:07] you play against people all over the world [19:07] ah thats why i didnt go for it a while back when i read about it [19:07] in this last match, i was targeting a russian driving a german tank [19:08] lol [19:08] I was driving a IS-2 (russian) [19:41] Good night everyone! [19:44] uh [19:45] why so quiet here? [19:45] Kilos: I'm talking to you [19:45] sorry [19:45] and Padroni [19:45] and all the others [19:45] I am working / playing game [19:46] i busy making a new shorter extension cord for here [19:46] no need for 5m cable when 3 is enough [20:00] power cable Kilos? [20:01] yeah [20:02] i think it is about bedtime for me [20:02] me too i think [20:02] me too [20:02] night all . sleep tight [20:02] goeie nag [20:02] good night [20:02] lekker slaap julle [20:19] Nite