[03:46] Hello? [03:46] xubuntu31w: hey [03:47] I am a serious newbie, Can you help me? [03:47] xubuntu31w: no way to know, til you ask [03:47] Cool.... [03:48] I have installed Xubuntu 12.04 on an old Gateway laptop, Ran ok until I activated the wireless internet driver, It asked me to reboot, I did so, It won [03:48] It won't reboot, just stuck. [03:49] Did I do somthing wrong? [03:50] xubuntu31w: i have no idea what you did, but, i dont have enough information to diagnose what is done wrong by whom [03:50] xubuntu31w: personally, i would just test the hard drive, and other hardware.. since, it could be an older machine [03:50] i would also consider using 14.04.. [03:50] !14.04 [03:50] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu and is the latest !LTS version. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes [03:51] I tried 14 but it didn't work. I was going to upgrade, but Kablam! [03:51] Should I just reinstall the system? [03:53] xubuntu31w: i dont know, friend.. again, i dont have enough information to go on.. i already suggested testing the hard drive.. not sure how else to imply thats what i would do, and that i think would be a good use of your time [03:53] How do you test a hard drive? [03:54] some machiens have tests in the bios.. it still looks like this mostly in ubuntu http://linuxhub.net/2010/09/scan-your-hard-disk-with-gsmartcontrol-on-ubuntu-10-10/ [03:54] though, there are many ways. [03:56] Can I boot from this program? [03:57] xubuntu31w: you would use a live iso, and test the hardware.. but dont over think it.. if its too much for you to take on.. just keep tryihng things [03:57] xubuntu31w: if you literaly just installed, then, yo udont have any data to worry about.. i say, install 14.04 [03:58] Thanks for your help. I'll try a 14 again. [05:00] whats the diff between 14.04 14.04.1 and 14.04.2 [05:00] jobzy: updates.. 14.04.2 for example, *is* 14.04.. with the updates applied [05:01] you can download a 14.04 iso now that is up to date.. [05:01] ah okj [05:01] ok* [05:01] thanks [05:05] which are the requirements to run xubuntu? [05:05] xubuntu466, can u read this? [05:05] yes [05:05] oh ok [05:06] well what type of system do you have xubuntu466 [05:06] actually Im trying different types of ubuntu distros [05:06] but Ive tried ubuntu and it didnt work very well [05:07] when I try to open for example mozilla, the computer freezes [05:07] im using xubuntu just because i like xfce, but all ubuntu distros are exactly the same just with different desktops (xubuntu,kubuntu,lubuntu) [05:07] regular ubuntu with the unity desktop is god ugly === Guest93386 is now known as cfhowlett [05:08] Is there an alternative to USC for Xubuntu? I'm looking for an apt worker similar to qapt, that can install and resolve dependencies in a single step, but isn't as bloated and slow as USC and doesn't require me to install kde-base [05:08] Enkidu_ak, just use apt-get commands [05:08] My pc is an pentium 4 with 2gb of ram and a nvidia gforce 6200. Which distro recommend you? [05:08] xubuntu466, xubuntu or lubuntu [05:08] Enkidu_ak: synaptic? [05:09] xubuntu466, thats lubuntu [05:09] !lubuntu | xubuntu466 [05:09] xubuntu466: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [05:09] sorry didnt mean to say "thats lubuntu" [05:09] xubuntu466: xubuntu.. this is the xubuntu channel ;) ..you can try them all live and see [05:09] ah ok sorry [05:10] xubuntu definitely looks better but i think lxde is lighter [05:10] ok guys thanks! [05:10] Ill try both, xubuntu and lubuntu [05:10] there u go [05:10] actually xubuntu is installing right now [05:10] xubuntu466, for example: install lubuntu. but to test other DE (NOT the full distro), sudo apt-get install kde-plasma xfce4 lxde [05:10] xubuntu466, then logout/choose alternate session/login [05:10] yes, thats a good idea [05:11] just install the desktop env, not the entire distro [05:11] xubuntu466, when you find one you like, THEN you can install the full distro with, for example, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [05:11] *.* [05:12] I didnt know that xD [05:12] Im new user of this OS [05:12] xubuntu466, most people don't know that. [05:12] Some people wouldn't recommend that as much though. :P [05:12] xubuntu466, well, you have a small learning curve ahead, but nothing you can't handle. are you a windows or OSX refugee? [05:12] well, when u do "apt install xubuntu-desktop" its different than "apt install xfce4" [05:13] same desktop just different settings and whatnot [05:13] Im a regular windows user [05:13] looks a little diff [05:13] my entire life with windows, but now that I start the college our teachers of computer science told us to try Ubuntu [05:14] xubuntu466, Welcome! And a suggestion: www.fullcirclemagazin.org/downloads. get issue #0. read. Get issue #1. read. repeat [05:14] ty bynarie! [05:14] xubuntu466, why did they recommend ubuntu over another distro? ease of use or somethin? [05:14] xubuntu466, what college? [05:15] actually they didnt told ubuntu specifically [05:15] just to try with any of those distros [05:15] gotcha [05:16] and something else [05:16] Ive heard that ati and nvidia graphic cards [05:16] have some problems with linux, is it true? [05:16] because I have my doubts in ubuntu if is the OS or my graphic card [05:16] xubuntu466, lemme stop you there. amd/ati is SLOWLY coming around on linus. nvidia is much better supported [05:17] *linux* [05:17] could be true, depending on the card and drivers that are available [05:17] bynarie, the newest cards tend to lag a bit on linux support. [05:17] but like cfhowlett said, nvidia has much better support [05:18] when I try to update or change the drives in the updates panel, it start updating but after a while all my pc freeze and I have to turn it down from the start botton [05:18] cfhowlett, i thought i noticed some lag.. im running a geforce 770m and i tried to play counter-strike 1.6 thru steam, and was barely getting 50 fps, which makes no sense [05:18] for example, I just purchased the Dell m3800 Developer Edition. the nvidia driver makes this puppy fly! and you can switch it off if not needed. [05:19] mmm Understood [05:20] and after I try sudo apt - get lubuntu desktop [05:20] how do I return to xubuntu desktop? [05:20] logout, change session, login [05:20] just the same but sudo apt - get lubuntu desktop like this? [05:21] sudo apt-get install lxde [05:21] !info lubuntu-desktop [05:21] "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" [05:21] which, works as well.. but, i say, just get lxde.. [05:21] just like that [05:21] mmm ok guys, thank you a lot [05:21] or "sudo apt-get install lxde" [05:21] you have no idea how you help me! [05:22] xubuntu466, happy2help! good luck with the studies [05:22] ty! [05:22] lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.55 (utopic), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf) [05:23] xubuntu466, quick crash course - "apt-get install" installs, "apt-get remove" uninstalls, "apt-get --purge" uninstalls and deletes configs, "apt-cache search " to search for packages [05:24] if u download .DEB files directly, use "dpkg -i .deb" to install [05:24] of course sudo is needed in front of these commands [05:26] and "dpkg -r " removes DEB installed packages [05:26] but use apt-get if possible because of easy management [05:26] crap i didnt even notice he left, sorry [05:29] hehe [05:29] im kind of scared to try the nvidia drivers since the nouveau work so reliably [05:32] klopsi-u3, no requirement that you use nvidia ... but OEM support? for me = win [05:33] !nvidia [05:33] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [05:35] !offtopic [05:35] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [05:36] klopsi-u3, pro-tip. you can read !factoids in private with /msg ubottu !factoid [05:37] ok ty [07:40] Guys i have a problem with new xfce 4.12 after i upgrade the stock xfce version in xubuntu 14.04 to 4.12 using xubuntu/dev ppa xfce4-appearance-settings is not working anymore and after five seconds i think the appearance setting is closing by it self [07:54] if the appearence settings was also updated by that repository you'd want to discuss with that PPA maintainer [07:55] Bwithmore19: any useful output after starting xfce4-appearance-settings from the terminal? [07:56] yes [07:56] pastebinit [07:57] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/522404b29bae8e8f5569 [07:57] hmm, ok [07:59] Bwithmore19: do you mind pastebinning a list of themes/icons you have installed? [07:59] that output appearing after the appearance setting is crashing by it self [07:59] i'm pretty sure that there is a faulty theme somewhere, but it really shouldn't crash the dialog [08:01] i need to reboot ochosi [08:01] w8 man [08:08] Bwithmore19: so just do "ls /usr/share/icons" and pastebin that please [08:09] also, if you have themes in ~/.themes, that would be important to know [08:18] w8 ochosi [08:21] ochosi: the output of ls /usr/share/icons https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c6467c985c81e3e16dc0 [08:22] and i dont have themes on my ~/.themes [08:22] you mean ~/.icons [08:23] so one of the theme folders is the offender [08:24] suggestion, you could move them to a different location one-by-one until the appearance dialog doesn't crash anymore [08:24] oh wait [08:24] ok man [08:24] then we know which icon-theme causes the crash and i can investigate the issue [08:25] this from my ./icons home folder [08:25] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e7ff54bd8a4ff926016 [08:25] wow, so even more :) [08:25] well still, try to move them and we'll find out [08:32] hi Luyin nice to meet someone from hessen [08:32] hi klopsi-u3 [08:57] ochosi its not working [08:57] i dont understand ubuntu networking [08:58] wifi card driver is loaded, networkmanager sees the access point [08:58] sorry this probably isnt the right place [09:01] Bwithmore19: you mean without having any icon themes there you still get the crash? [09:16] klopsi-u3: no, better try #ubuntu [09:37] yes ochosi [09:38] you know the problem is i cannot change everything in appearance setting and in any second the appearance setting will crash i dont know is that happen [09:39] even close it in her windows button dont work [09:39] thats the main problem [09:40] i meant you should move the icon themes on your harddrive to a different location [09:41] so that both /usr/share/icons only contains hicolor and ~/.icons is empty (or just rename ~/.icons to something else for testing) [09:41] ok i will try it [09:43] yes now its now working ochosi [09:43] so what did you move exactly? [09:43] all of the icons [09:44] exept hicolor and locolor [09:44] ok, then move them back one by one [09:44] yes that the one who go in my mind [09:44] and after you've moved one, check whether appearance-settings still works [09:44] until you've found the theme that crashes the dialog [09:46] man [09:46] thanks for this help [09:46] i will observe if this will happen again or another problem will appear ochosi [09:47] well, as i said, move them back one by one... [09:51] i know what fucking icons is making my appearance to crash [09:51] setting [09:53] so which one is itß [09:53] ? [09:54] the mint-x dark [09:55] could you please pastebin the index.theme file? [09:55] (just run "pastebinit index.theme" in the terminal and paste the link here) [09:56] and mint-grey too [09:56] mint-x-grey [10:00] ochosi here https://gist.github.com/anonymous/100d59a43205bea55346 [10:04] Bwithmore19: thanks [10:05] what do you think xfce 4.12 is acting on that type of icons ochosi ? [10:05] xdg-open and exo-open don't work on Xubuntu 12.04 (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138143 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs24/+bug/1425972 https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11601 ) -- seems fixed, but how long will it take for it to make it into 12.04? [10:05] Mozilla bug 1138143 in Untriaged "Passing a URL via xdg-open does not open URL in Firefox 36 but shows default homepage instead" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [10:05] Launchpad bug 1425972 in exo (Ubuntu) "Firefox no longer supports -remote parameter" [Medium,Confirmed] [10:05] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11601 in Helpers "exo-open: firefox no longer supports -remote" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [10:07] ochosi numix-bevel too and numix-circle-light [10:08] Bwithmore19: it's just a bug, i'll try to reproduce it now [10:08] this bug needs to fix man [10:08] im using xfce 4.12 using xubuntu-dev/ppa [10:09] yeah, it will be fixed [10:09] however note that you're using that PPA at your own risk [10:10] ok man [10:10] Bwithmore19, you're in a ppa. ask them. OR be patient and wait for it to be added to the repo. bleeding edge frequently = bloody edge. [10:10] hehehe [10:11] cfhowlett: "them"? [10:11] Bwithmore19: works fine here with numix-circle-light btw [10:12] http://i.imgur.com/AsgWahQ.png [10:12] why it making problems on my system ochosi ? [10:12] ochosi, you know ... the magical ubuntu gnomes! [10:13] Bwithmore19: probably because you're a bad person ;) [10:13] * ochosi has such amazing karma [10:13] WHAT !!! [10:14] how did you install the mint-x themes? [10:14] or where did you get them from? [10:14] in my linux mint 17.1 system and copy it to /usr/share/icons of xubuntu [10:15] and you're using a ppa which, by definition, is experimental. [10:16] xubuntu ain't mint. mint ain't xubuntu. mixing and matching distros is *always* an uncertain proposition [10:16] ok did you think i need to disable the xfce4-4.12 ppa [10:17] and wait for xfce 4.12 to go in main repo ? [10:17] at least for now that is likely, or you just get rid of the offending icon themes [10:17] ok [10:18] i'm installing mint-x now [10:18] will try to reproduce your problem [10:19] Bwithmore19: so that works as well... http://i.imgur.com/oP5MCpw.png [10:22] Bwithmore19: could you please paste the output of "ls -Rl /usr/share/icons" ? [10:24] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ee3548a943b8cea36f04 [10:24] ok i think the real problem in mint-x and numix working now [10:24] wat? [10:25] i thought you identified those themes as breaking the dialog? [10:25] numix-circle-light is not [10:26] you're really confusing me over here, could you again tell me which themes break the dialog exactly and then please give me the output of "ls -Rl" for them? [10:27] ok man sorry for confusing you [10:29] no worries [10:29] gotta go grab some lunch, so i'll be afk for a bit [10:29] ok man i have to go [10:29] please post your findings anyway, i'll read them when i'm back [10:29] i will just observing this [10:35] Hi I'm having trouble installing xubuntu 14.04 on a macbook late 2008, I believe I need a +mac installer because the mac is fairly old but I'm unable to find one [10:35] !mac | xubuntuformac, [10:35] xubuntuformac,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [10:36] I've tried googling the issue and I've created a usb as well as a cd with xubuntu on it, i've installed efi boot and followed all the steps but it simply returns "cannot boot legacy OS" [10:36] the message tells me that some hard drives are not supported on older macs [10:37] I've also created a bootable USB that doesn't load [10:37] xubuntuformac, best to contact someone from the ubuntu/mac team. rarely are they in this channel ... [10:37] ok sorry [10:37] thank you [10:37] happy2help! === Luyinot is now known as Luyin [13:17] Hello all,Please help me with the following: i type in terminal $ sudo su ,password and then $ cd ~/Downloads and i get no file found error [13:18] maybe because /root has no Downloads directory [13:18] klopsi what do you suggest? move the file to another directory? which one if yes or what i can do,the file i need to install requires root access [13:18] you probably want to cd /home/$user/Downloads [13:19] i tried and get no such file or directory [13:19] what is the user name you downloaded with? [13:19] and i am in root@user:/home/user# [13:20] same i am with now, xyzuser [13:21] your username is "user" or "xyzuser" or what? [13:21] user [13:22] that is strange because by default there should be a /home/user/Downloads directory [13:22] run pwd to check that you are still in your user's home directory [13:23] is it possible that the problem is that i downloaded while using the private tab of the installed browser (defult ff that is with xubuntu) [13:23] dokoo how do i go about running pwd? thank you [13:23] that would just not log the download toff history [13:24] so it's not the problem then Grid if i understand you correctly. [13:24] user__: what problem do you seem to have? [13:25] i would like to install a downloaded file,which requires to be installed under root,i then type in terminal sudo su,enter pwd,then can not move file with cd command [13:25] using "cd ~/Downloads" as root will lead to "/root/Downloads" instead of the User-Download-Dir [13:25] instruction from installation is: Change directories to the directory that contains the Workstation installer file. [13:25] ^ if you are as root [13:26] i see koegs so how do i go about doing that meaning either moving the file to the root Downloads folder or? [13:26] if you sudo su then your ~ is /root/ but you downloaded as user so users ~ is /home/username/ [13:26] ok [13:26] and yes that is the case [13:27] downloaded as user need to cd as root [13:27] just cd /home/username/Downloads [13:27] the file should be there [13:27] also same error [13:27] cannot find file [13:27] do a locate [13:27] did you replace username with the "real username"? [13:27] yes koegs and grid how do i do a locate please,will search for it now [13:28] locate *filename* [13:28] ok will try now long file name 2minutes thanks guys [13:29] you can also check the downloads in firefox, rightclick on the file and say "open target directory" [13:29] user__: use * and just write a relevant part of the filename and * again [13:29] koegs: not if he used private browsing [13:29] but if they've not updatedb then locate probably won't find it [13:29] yes i did that grid and the file is in the /home/user/Downloads [13:30] and yes i did download while using private browsing tab [13:30] user__: then you copy that path [13:31] please tell me how to do that grid? [13:31] also user__ if you are tryng to run using something like ./install.sh make sure that install.sh is an executable file, chmod +x, also dont install stuff you are not sure are safe, also if you do you are on your own and we can't really help you after installing [13:32] user__: select the text with the mouse and copy with the contextual menu [13:32] or use tab completion to try to follow the path [13:32] the file is VMware-Workstation-Full-version numbers.bundle [13:33] just type VM and press tab [13:33] it should autocomplete the filename [13:34] if i got it right i typed in VM in terminal and tab but nothing [13:34] are uyou in the corect directory? [13:34] type /home/username/VM then tab [13:35] cd to the correct directory and try again [13:35] also remember that to execute something that is not installed you need to add ./ to it first, or the whole path to it [13:36] thank you guys for trying sinceraly but still nothing happens [13:37] is it an executable file user__ ? [13:38] i believe that it is, if it means anything it is a .bundle file and it contains virtual machine (VMWare workstation) [13:38] the instructions i got from https://pubs.vmware.com/workstation-9/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.ws.get_started.doc%2FGUID-1F5B1F14-A586-4A56-83FA-2E7D8333D5CA.html [13:38] user__: go to the directory where the file is and type ls -o VM* [13:39] when you say go to the directory where the file is,do you mean "go to" it in terminal or actually going to the user downloads folder [13:39] you should see something like; -rw-rw-r-- 1 biblio 14150978 ene 25 12:25 adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.440.orig.tar.gz [13:39] i mean on a terminal, cd to it [13:40] user__: in this case this file is not exectuble, you should see some x's [13:40] user@user:~$ ls -o VM* [13:40] ls: cannot access VM*: No such file or directory [13:40] user@user:~$ [13:40] you are not in the correct directory [13:40] you have not cd Downloads [13:41] i have not cd at all,it downloaded to /home/user/Downloads when i downloaded it [13:41] by defualt [13:41] well , you need to go there [13:41] type cd Downloads on the terminal [13:41] and press enter [13:41] to go to the downloads directory [13:42] ok seems i am there now and what to type now [13:42] the ls [13:42] user@user:~$ cd Downloads [13:42] user@user:~/Downloads$ [13:42] yes [13:42] good [13:42] user@user:~/Downloads$ ls [13:42] VMware-Workstation-Full-11.1.0-2496824.x86_64.bundle [13:42] user@user:~/Downloads$ [13:42] now type ls -o VM* [13:42] good the file is there [13:42] now the -o will tell you if its executable or not [13:42] ok and now how would i cd it as instructions require [13:42] ok doing -o now [13:43] VMware-Workstation-Full-11.1.0-2496824.x86_64.bundle [13:43] user@user:~/Downloads$ ls -o VM* [13:43] -rw-rw-r-- 1 user 432476411 Mar 4 08:02 VMware-Workstation-Full-11.1.0-2496824.x86_64.bundle [13:43] user@user:~/Downloads$ [13:44] its not an executable file user__, try chmod +x VM[press tab] [13:44] user@user:~/Downloads$ chmod +x VMware-Workstation-Full-11.1.0-2496824.x86_64.bundle [13:44] yes [13:44] now do ./VM[press tab] [13:45] stuff should happen [13:46] 2minutes thanks again grid [13:46] well, you are on your own now user__ :) [13:46] good luck [13:48] re-did commands, file is now in green color,then ./VM and tab just completed file name again so maybe will now do the sh command from installation instructions? [13:49] [13:49] Run the appropriate Workstation installer for the host system. [13:49] For example: sh VMware-Workstation-xxxx-xxxx.architecture.bundle [--option] [13:49] yes [13:49] i guess [13:49] and now when i click the file it tells me root access is required for these operations [13:49] you at least have the file now [13:50] yes,thanks for that. [13:50] well yes, you made it executable, if you didnt have to just do a chmod -x VM[press tab] [13:50] i pressed enter as you said and it tries to extract but i get pop-up of root access needed,how do i do the same only in root access? [13:50] chmod minus x takes the x P: chmod plus x adds the x, see? [13:51] sudo [13:51] add sudo in front of the command you are given [13:51] again this is dangerous and you just do it if you understand what its going on [13:51] else you risk damaging your system [13:51] i hope you understand this [13:51] i think i am now root in right folder will try [13:53] yes successfully extracted [13:53] just to know for now and future,is it acceptable to "tip" for assistance here or not at all [13:54] thank you very much Grid. [13:57] user__: its unusual, just pass the help to the next person who needs it :) if you wanna contribute with monies theres bug hunting rewards that you can contribute, you can ask the people at -devel how to do so [13:57] ok [13:58] and you're welcome user__ :) but again, remember that doing blindly what people tells you on the internet is dangerous, you should do it only if you understand whats going on [13:58] if not ask someone else if its correct or be aware of the risk you are taking [13:59] its your system after all, you are responsible for it === sonne_ is now known as sonne [15:38] Hello [15:38] I use Xubuntu 14.04. Very often when I start my computer my icons are arranged to the left of the screen. I don't want that. Is there any solution ? [15:40] janfi: what do you want? No icons, icons on right? What? [15:41] are you using Xubuntu 12.04 janfi ? [15:41] klopsi-u3: He said 14.04 [15:41] oh sorry i flew over that [15:42] here is some discussion about the problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1190990 [15:42] Launchpad bug 1190990 in xfdesktop "Xfce4 mess up with icon positions" [Low,Fix released] [15:43] klopsi-u3: We're not sure he has a bug...we really don't know what he wants. [15:44] wants to keep desktop icon placement and not have them moved to the left side? [15:44] We don't know...re-read his comment. All we know is that they are on the left and he doesn't want that. [15:46] You're probably correct, but until he gives us more inforamtion.... :) [15:46] janfi, care to weigh here?? [15:54] What I want is if I put an icon (generally a folder shortcut) somewhere on the screen, the day after I would like to find it on the same place. [15:55] janfi: See the link klopsi-u3 gabe you earlier. [15:55] klopsi-u3: You were right :) [15:55] ok [15:55] s/gabe/gave/ [15:55] I have Xubuntu 14.04 [16:09] Hi there, trying to get my "at"-sign running on a MacBook with latest Xubuntu. I tryed to map "l" as a system shortcut, which should output the sign, but it doesnt work. Is there a way to output a string by using a shortcut? [16:27] thanks, that should help [16:38] I think, I found it by myself. I used "lv3:enter_switch" as a xkboption ... works fine for me, thamks [17:51] ok cause my sid install couldnt run bumblee i am back to xubuntu :) [17:51] bumblebee [18:10] wonder if I can just switch to nvidia binary driver with "Additional Drivers" on an optimus laptop [18:10] here goes nuthin [18:15] rebooted and now laptop is using the nvidia chip! [18:15]