=== inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [08:42] seems the trello thread got stuck [08:42] nice [08:42] now if someone could have told me in january I might even had a chance to figure out why :P [08:45] wowzers [08:45] incredible work, kubotu [08:57] Good morning. [09:01] the IO wait on git.debian is quite simply obscene [09:01] kubotu: order coffee [09:01] * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to sitter. === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [11:45] kubotu: order black tea [11:45] * kubotu slides black tea down the bar to ovidiu-florin [11:45] kubotu: order acid rain [11:45] * kubotu slides acid rain down the bar to ovidiu-florin [11:45] :)) [11:46] kubotu: time [11:46] I don't know where you are, use ~time set / to let me know [11:46] kubotu: ~time Europe/Bucharest [11:46] kubotu: time [11:46] I don't know where you are, use ~time set / to let me know [11:46] sitter: how do I use this? [11:48] good morning [11:50] ovidiu-florin: no clue [11:50] kubotu: time [11:50] I don't know where you are, use ~time set / to let me know [11:50] kubotu: time set Europe/Vienna [11:50] Ok, I'll remember that sitter is on the Europe/Vienna time zone [11:50] very pointless plugin [11:50] kubotu: time set Europe/Bucharest [11:50] Ok, I'll remember that ovidiu-florin is on the Europe/Bucharest time zone [11:51] kubotu: time [11:51] Europe - Bucharest - Thu Mar 05 13:51 EET [11:51] EET? [11:51] eastern european time? [11:52] hola [12:25] Hey folks [12:30] time [12:30] kubotu: time [12:30] I don't know where you are, use ~time set / to let me know [12:30] hmpf [12:39] hmm, where should be reported bugs aganst sddm theme ? === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [13:20] someone please confirm and comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344867 ? [13:20] KDE bug 344867 in kcm_sddm "Setting custom background image in kcm_sddm does not work" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [13:33] hi KDDA [13:33] hi Riddell [13:35] KDDA: want to become an elite kubuntu packager? [13:36] is that the title of an ebook? [13:37] Become an international freedom fighter in 10 easy steps! [13:37] is there a guide somewhere? [13:38] in very simple, step by step [13:39] what is the roadmap for Kubuntu, it seems to be starting to move away from Ubuntu? [13:42] KDDA: alas there's no simple guide to packaging, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ has some stuff but I advise ignoring the chapters on UDD (ubuntu distributed development) we don't tend to do that [13:43] the roadmap is just our todo list https://trello.com/kubuntu [13:43] Sick_Rimmit did say he'd do a packaging guide but nothing yet [13:43] Riddell: Hi [13:43] KDDA: but I or others can give you a tutorial if you like [13:43] Yes that's true I did say that, I was going to work on it with sgclark [13:44] I have been intermittent on my packaging foo, [13:44] still got Calligra to finish... [13:44] Sick_Rimmit: that's updated now [13:45] took bloody ages that one :( [13:45] IIRC there were a bunch of packaging bugs reported against calligra lately, maybe look at those [13:45] Ah this is the problem, I run out of time and then when I get some more time, it's been done.. [13:45] I am not complaining though, [13:46] Just wish I could dedicate my time a bit more consistently, but family, jobs, kids, [13:46] to package properly, wouldnt I need coding knowledge, to fix bugs? [13:46] I meant fixing packaging bugs [13:46] KDDA: No I don't think you need that [13:47] and yeah, you'll need to know how to do that, but that's usually small things and thus not too complicated to explain [13:50] Can I add new programs/app into the main repros? [13:50] not yourself, but you can package one and request sponsorship [13:51] what applications version do we have in vivid ? [13:51] right now, 14.12.2 [13:52] what about KDE Aplicaciones 14.12.3 ? [13:52] dunno [13:52] Id like to add Tilemill [13:52] ;) [13:52] :P [13:52] KDDA: last I looked, there was a PPA for it, maybe check if you can clean that packaging up for the archive [13:53] there is, but not updated [13:53] sgclark: do ypu plan to work on 14.12.3 ? [13:54] tilemill is here but only for trusty https://launchpad.net/~osgeolive/+archive/ubuntu/nightly/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75 [13:54] http://ppa.launchpad.net/developmentseed/mapbox/ubuntu/dists/ [13:54] KDDA: so yes you could update that if you feel it's useful [13:59] qt also needs a security patch added [13:59] do I need to install a tool-chain? [14:01] KDDA: for which? [14:01] just run debuild to build a package [14:02] apt-get source kolf; cd kolf-; debuild [14:02] for example [14:02] you'll want to have devscripts and ubuntu-dev-tools installed === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - now even more Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ [14:04] plasma 5.2.1 removed from topic === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ [14:09] installing the dev tools [14:10] Riddell: where is it best working from? [14:10] do I need a workspace? [14:11] or just under ~ [14:13] KDDA: I have ~/src// [14:14] ok I have a folder called kolf-14.12.2 and some simularly named files [14:15] debuild fails [14:16] Unmet build dependencies: cmake debhelper (>= 9) kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.12) kdelibs5-dev libkdegames-dev (>= 4:14.12.2) pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.14) [14:16] yep, that's the stuff you need to apt install to get it to build [14:16] but look at what the source packgae is (the .orig, .debian.tar and .dsc) and look in debian/ directory [14:16] would I be better doing it in a VM? [14:17] what is .cpp file? [14:17] c code? [14:17] oh c++ [14:18] KDDA: not really, a VM is going to be slower [14:18] like most KDE software it's c++ using Qt [14:18] ah [14:19] oh and pro tip, debuild -jX where X is your number of processor cores (see /proc/cpuinfo) makes it go X times as fast [14:19] C++ is OOP? [14:19] yep [14:19] but it's stupidly messy as a language [14:19] I used to be able to program in C [14:19] it's based on C which is pretty low level and it adds a lot of stuff [14:19] but that was a long time ago! [14:20] fortunately Qt library makes it much easier to program in than most other libraries [14:20] which is why KDE software is the best platform out there, because it's based on Qt [14:21] so C++ is like if Java and C had a love child? [14:21] pretty much [14:21] Java was designed to be like c++ but not as messy [14:22] and importantly with a standard library that would make using it easy [14:22] I can usually figure Java out [14:22] oh also java has a built in build system while c++ has none [14:23] in KDE we solve that by using cmake which is pretty nice [14:23] I see [14:23] in university I learn about programming languages, but it's equally important to know about libraries and build systems as well other other tools [14:24] so what is an actual package, like bytecode? [14:24] the result of building the project? [14:24] KDDA: yes [14:24] which with c++ is machine code binaries [14:24] also data files like icons [14:25] so apt-get installs those as binaries and phsyical files on the OS? [14:26] yeo [14:26] yep [14:27] it downloads the .deb binary packages which is what you're building with debuild [14:27] and those .debs are just tars (or ars) with some meta data of the binaries and data files [14:28] * Riddell adds kdeconnect-plasma to seed [14:28] ;o [14:28] Riddell: is it working again?!? [14:29] pings work for me [14:29] is it int the archive? [14:29] compiling away https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma/0.0+git20150302-0ubuntu1 [14:30] do you compile it on your box, or on launchpad? [14:30] strictly for androids, right [14:31] BluesKaj: I believe so, was developed via GSOC [14:31] KDDA, ok thanks [14:31] KDDA: I compile it on my box to update the packaging and test it, when I compile it in pbuilder which is a script on my computer to compile it in an isolated system to test it all compiles, then I uploaded to my PPA on launchpad to test there, then when I'm happy with that i uploaded to launchpad for ubuntu [14:32] Riddell: is Kubuntu in GSOC 2105? [14:32] 2015 [14:33] KDDA: KDE is and I submitted a proposal to update the ubiquity installer in kubuntu [14:33] dunno if it'll get chosen [14:33] ah I found KDE ideas [14:34] Riddell: its there [14:34] https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2015/Ideas#Project:_Port_Ubiquity_to_Qt_5 [14:34] and you are the mentor :) === soee_ is now known as soee [14:51] Riddell: nice one :) [14:51] kdeconnect is working again! [14:52] awooga [14:54] in the old version there was a menu item in dolpin to send a file to phone, but doesnt seem to be there with this version, is that a bug? [14:55] * soee testting kdeconnect [14:55] it still has /usr/share/kservices5/kdeconnectsendfile.desktop I think it just needs dolphin for kf5 [14:57] is the current version of dolphin still on 4? [14:59] confirmed :) works cool, super fast paring, i can switch my radio statins and move cursor + type on keyboard [14:59] soee: can you send a file to mobile from dolphin? [14:59] let me check [15:00] KDDA: seems like i can't open teh device from Dolphin [15:00] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/amd64/tilemill Does this mean someone has approved tilemill to be in the Archive? [15:00] just nothing published yet? [15:03] KDDA: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tilemill it means there's no tilemill in ubuntu, launchpad only knows about it because of packages in PPAs [15:03] KDDA: yes dolphin is still kdelibs4 [15:04] there's an ongoing discussion about including the frameworks port of dolphin in applications 15.08 in which case I think we could look at including it in vivid [15:14] sitter: new frameworks repo you may like to CI, kde-extras/kdeconnect-plasma [15:44] Riddell: guess I'll pretend I am not perplexed by the fact that the repo doesn't have the same name as the upstream repo... [15:45] and you didn't wrapsort [15:45] read the mail I sent... [15:47] * Riddell has 188 unread e-mails to read :( [15:47] kdeconnect-kde gets released as kdeconnect-kde and kdeconnect-plasma [15:49] jesus [15:50] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_kdeconnect-plasma/2/consoleFull [15:50] should be integrating assuming the build suceeds [15:56] soee: I confirmed KDE Bug 344867. Since I could not find an 'also affects me' selection on bugs.kde.org like launchpad, I just added a comment. [15:56] KDE bug 344867 in kcm_sddm "Setting custom background image in kcm_sddm does not work" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344867 [16:03] any idea why dvd rom does not work for me ? [16:22] soee: sorry seems my kubuntu-devel tab got moved outta site in konversation :( thought it was aweful quite. Riddell said to ignore 4.14.3. Riddell did that change? I do recall it failing mierably with our scripts. [16:24] Sick_Rimmit: ah yes the tutorial.. unfortunately my kde jenkins is in the process of going live, I do not see alot of extra time in the near future :( [16:32] sgclark: not 4.14.3, 14.12.3 [16:32] (up since saturday) [16:34] yofel: ahhh [16:34] if no one else is working on it, sure I can [16:34] it's up for grabs :) [16:35] Riddell: ok, on it [16:35] remember to merge in kubuntu_stable branches first [16:35] Riddell: ah yes right, thanks [16:36] sounds like a job for a bashy scripty type thing [16:40] sgclark: it should just be added to kubuntu-initial-upload [16:40] it's just one git command [16:41] Riddell: k [17:03] whoop whoop [17:03] Announce: Vivid will switch to booting with systemd next Monday, brace for impact [17:03] pitti ftw [17:04] we could do with someone testing that first [17:06] systemd runs fine for about 2 months here already [17:06] the only thing I ever had problems with was sddm when we had the systemd support enabled [17:07] er... disabled ofc [18:52] mparillo: thanks [18:57] someone has 2 min to check one thing ? [19:07] soee: Check what? [19:10] mparillo: if we take a screenshot and click on the button "Send to" it take some time to load the list with availabel items [19:11] Using krunner to invoke ksnapshot? [19:13] Pretty much immediate for me. [19:13] Running in a modest VM. [19:14] Options returned are Firefox, Gwenview, Okular, and Other Application ... [19:14] Funny that Firefox is the first option...I used System Settings to make rekonq my preferred browser and konversation respects that. [19:18] soee: takes about a second to load with kipi-plugins installed [19:19] so to repackage from KF4 > 5 just means rebuilding? [19:19] for me it taked like 6-10 seconds [19:19] *takes [19:20] in strace it looks like ksnapshot is making a bazillion lookups for icon files o.O [19:20] though i have liek 30 items here [19:20] yofel: might it be some bug ? [19:21] no idea. The number of device checks is also a bit excessive [19:22] it's not like it's *stuck* somewhere, it's just slow / a lot [19:23] ksnapshot is part of plasma ? [19:23] soee: appears to be [19:23] it's an application [19:23] PrtScr key launches it for me [19:31] yofel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqG5BU-euGY [19:32] hey guy and gals I tried to install Beta 1 and I had a problem with partman [19:34] soee: Your list is much longer than mine. Also, more and more youtube vids now play in rekonq! [19:34] mparillo: i have no idea where this list comes from :D [19:36] "kipi-plugins" add some 2 dozen entries there [19:37] i asked on #plasma and one user said it works fine for him [19:37] anyway even with 30 items it shoudlnt take more than 0.5 sec to load it imo [19:38] soee: open konsole, run 'strace ksnapshot', then check if it freezes at some point during loading [19:38] yofel: check #plasma i have ther some input [19:39] ok so we know it is kipi plugins [19:39] yeah, I'll agree with d__ed, same happens here - I just have a quad core with SSD so it's "just" a second [19:40] so should i leave it like that or write some bug report for kipi plugins ? [19:41] not sure how that's a bug in kipi-plugins... [19:42] well than i think ill remove kipi plugins [19:43] Riddell: i have posted small info about kdeconnect https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/CoXFfa8dkpW [19:43] maybe splitting those up in popular/not-so-p ones would be good, but that should be done in debian [19:48] hey yofel [19:48] what is the freenode chan for QT stuff ? [19:49] id like to ask about this bug https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40207 [19:50] #qt cleverly [19:51] hey ahoneybun [19:51] yofel, I had a problem with partman in beta 1 [19:51] hmm, there is some bug in muon, when we install updates we cant search for package again [19:51] I think it had to do with UEFI [19:52] 2 things I'm really not familiar with, sorry :/ [19:52] yofel, think I'll try again and grab the log for a bug report [19:52] anyway, what happened? [19:52] yeah, that would be great [19:52] it was under /var/syslog/ [19:52] something like that [19:53] should be /var/log/syslog, we're not on systemd yet ^^ [19:53] yofel, it was asking if I want to use the UEFI [19:53] and I said yes then something went wrong with partman [19:53] yofel, I'll be back with the report [19:53] or at least the log [19:53] grr. I can't really help there because I don't have an UEFI machine [19:54] yofel: wihout kipi-plugins the list loads without any dealay [19:54] unsurprisingly ^^ [19:58] is it an acceptable time for me to look triumphant and knowledgeable. [19:58] ;] [20:07] yofel, grabbed 2 screenshots and the full log [20:10] file the report against the installer right? [20:10] why just screenshots? [20:10] er [20:10] nvm, I'm tired [20:10] yes, file it against ubiquity please [20:16] k [20:16] yofel, I have the log too [20:17] apport *should* add the log itself, but do check that after the bug is filed and add the screenshots [20:17] (apport will do that if you file the bug from the machine that this happened on) [20:17] s/machine/live system [20:18] yofel, is there a version on LP for Kubuntu or just file it against the core package? [20:18] if you file it from the kubuntu live session it'll automatically get tagged kubuntu [20:18] ubiquity-frontend-kde? [20:19] no, just use ubiquity [20:19] partman is rather core stuff [20:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity? [20:19] yes, just run 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity' [20:20] ahoneybun: and really try to do that from the live session after it happened. That'll produce the best possible bug information [20:20] ok I'll just back into the image [20:21] thanks :) [20:21] np :) === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [22:33] yofel: sorry for the delay: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 [22:33] Launchpad bug 1428877 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "partman crashes when trying to make a EFI partition" [Undecided,New] [22:46] yofel, ping === greyback__ is now known as greyback