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Kilosmorning all03:53
barrydkMore almal04:29
Kiloshi barrydk  04:29
Kiloshi Tonberry  04:32
Tonberryhi04:32
Kilosmorning nlsthzn_  05:03
Kiloshi mazal  05:32
mazalMorning everyone05:33
Kiloshmm... inetpro_  sleep sterk vandag07:22
Kilosstert07:22
stickyboyhttps://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/wiki/Getting-Started07:38
Kilosgood morning stickyboy  07:39
stickyboyKilos: Hey07:41
stickyboyAnyone try Syncthing?07:41
Kilosdunno , wait and see07:41
Kilosthey all seem snowed under atm07:41
stickyboyI am even a bit snowed under.07:45
Kilosyou mustnt forget to share on the africa channelas well  hey07:47
=== inetpro_ is now known as inetpro
inetproai!07:48
inetproGuten Morgen07:48
Kiloslol hiya inetpro  07:48
Kiloshi TinuvaMac  07:49
stickyboyKilos: :P07:50
stickyboyMac OS X sucks!07:50
stickyboyBut Mac hardware is z0mg wow so nice.07:51
Kiloshaha thats a change of tune from a few weeks back07:51
* inetpro tries to shake it off 07:51
inetproKilos: how goes it this morning?07:51
Kilosim good ty inetpro  what are you shaking off?07:52
Kilosflue07:52
inetprothe snow07:52
Kilosrofl07:52
stickyboyinetpro: Do you ever play with Go stuff?07:52
stickyboyI'm not a developer, so I don't dabble in new languages.07:52
stickyboyBut there are lots of sweet tools written in Go lately.07:53
inetprostickyboy: nope07:53
inetpronever tried go but have seen it floating around07:53
* inetpro still needs to catch up with python even07:53
Kiloslol 07:54
* inetpro still does old school stuff like bash, sed, awk, perl, etc07:55
WebtricityTeraco Cape Town is on fire... Great Westerford Building on the 3rd Floor07:57
Webtricityfun times07:57
Kilosoh my07:58
WebtricityDear Valued Customer,08:01
WebtricityPlease note we have an emergency situation in Teraco Cape Town. 08:01
WebtricityWe have been informed that there is a large fire in the Great Westerford Building on the 3rd Floor and that the room is currently on fire. Our Wireless equipment on the roof has been affected by the fire and multiple links in the Cape Town could possibly be affected in the short term. 08:01
WebtricityThe fire brigade has multiple vehicles on site and are busy extinguishing  the fire. Teraco and our node in Teraco is currently still operational and unaffected but there is no guarantee how long this will last. Two major problems are that the power could fail or be switched off by the fire brigade and/or the air conditioners on the roof may overheat or even be shut down. 08:01
WebtricityWe are on high alert and have people onsite to monitor the situation. 08:01
WebtricityShould the facility fail , it will have a detrimental impact on our Cape Town Network and same will apply to many other operators in the country as Teraco is a critical node for most service providers and Telco’s. 08:01
Kilosthat dont sound good at all08:03
Kiloshi Xethron  08:08
TinuvaMacits scary08:11
Kiloshi superfly  are you near there?08:13
Webtricityeskom has cut power to the building08:15
ThatGraemeGuy<Webtricity> eskom has cut power to the building08:16
ThatGraemeGuyit has?08:16
stickyboyregexes in udev...08:20
stickyboynot real regexes...08:20
stickyboyglobs!08:20
WebtricitySven Welzel ‏@svenwelzel  18m18 minutes ago08:21
WebtricityEskom Power to the Greater Westerford building has been cut as firefighting efforts continue... #newlands #capetown #fire08:21
WebtricityOur equipment there is still pingable08:21
Webtricitywhich means if Eskom did cut the power, the generators are now supplying power08:21
Webtricityso thats rather a redundant move08:21
superflyKilos: occasionally08:23
Kilossjoe08:23
superflyKilos: oh, to Great Westerford? no08:23
Kilosgood08:23
TinuvaMacor isnt it only running on ups now?08:25
ThatGraemeGuylol08:25
ThatGraemeGuynot for long08:25
TinuvaMactrue08:25
TinuvaMaceither way, this not going to turn out good08:26
ThatGraemeGuyand half of the people working with this stuff are probably at scaleconf08:27
superflyhttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/hosting-storage/121054-teraco-hetzner-cape-town-dc-unaffected-by-building-fire.html08:33
WebtricityWe have been informed by Teraco that the fire has been contained. Please be advised that Eskom has cut power to the building and that the building is currently running on the generators.08:40
TinuvaMacfok me, what an exciting morning09:02
WebtricityI think God is angry with Cape Town... All these fires09:03
Squirmmorning09:08
Kiloshi Squirm  09:09
SquirmSounds like we have info hosted there too09:10
Squirm:/09:10
TinuvaMaci wouldnt be surprised09:12
inetproeish!09:12
Squirmhttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/hosting-storage/121054-teraco-hetzner-cape-town-dc-unaffected-by-building-fire.html09:17
SquirmWell, sorry, we're with Hetzner09:17
SquirmSame building :P09:18
KilosMaaz  tell magespawn http://www.zdnet.com/article/companies-really-want-linux-savvy-employees-and-they-want-them-now/09:25
MaazKilos: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode09:25
SquirmHead they put the fire out a while ago now09:42
ThatGraemeGuyyup, http://www.hetzner.co.za/helpcentre/index.php/network-notices/details/492909:54
mazalmirrag10:41
mazalThere wouldn't happen to be a web africa manager here ?10:42
* ThatGraemeGuy prods TinuvaMac 11:11
TinuvaMacim not a WA manager11:39
inetpromazal: what's wrong?11:39
TinuvaMacbut i do work at wa11:39
inetproThatGraemeGuy: have you killed the fire yet?11:39
inetpronot killed*11:40
ThatGraemeGuywhich one? :-)11:40
inetproeish! There's more than one?11:41
inetprostill*11:41
ThatGraemeGuythe one that nearly destroyed a data centre or the one that was destroying most of the greater cape peninsula?11:41
ThatGraemeGuyeither way, I think both are no longer an issue11:41
TinuvaMaci wouldnt say it nearly destroyed a datacenter11:41
TinuvaMacit was close, but not nearly close11:41
TinuvaMacas in, same building, but like 4 floors away11:42
ThatGraemeGuybut you would say that if you were being overly dramatic11:42
ThatGraemeGuy:D11:42
TinuvaMacyes11:42
TinuvaMac:P11:42
TinuvaMacit was a great scare however11:42
TinuvaMacif it were to happen though, i bet a few insurance companies wouldnt be too happy11:43
ThatGraemeGuymeh11:43
ThatGraemeGuycan't insure data, the machines are the least of the hassle11:44
TinuvaMacdata should be backed up offsite11:44
TinuvaMacthat was our worry, checking that, that was indeed the case11:44
TinuvaMaci think 1 companies' office was destroyed, and half the wireless equipment on the roof, mostly Amobia will be having fun cleaning that up11:46
mazalTinuvaMac: Which section do you work ?11:46
TinuvaMacnetworking11:47
mazalLooking for someone in billing11:47
TinuvaMacdoubt any of the billing agents/managers even know what irc is11:47
mazalI just took a chance at a "maybe" :)11:48
TinuvaMacfor sure, its worth a shot11:48
TinuvaMacwhat do you need help with anyway?11:48
mazalShort version: Money is not being deducted , invoices shows paid , reported 3 times , support don't seem to care11:49
mazalBasically you have been giving me free internet for months now11:49
mazal3 months11:49
TinuvaMacwell if you really want i can escalate that for you11:50
TinuvaMacjust need your client code11:50
mazalLemme fetch that quick11:50
inetprogive him another 6 months free as a bonus for being honest11:50
TinuvaMacotherwise,the other procedure is, you wait about a year, someone in development pick up on it, and they decide to fix it at that point11:50
TinuvaMacinetpro: if i had that power i would :P11:51
mazalBye everyone , God bless12:44
Kilosnlsthzn_  whats happening?12:56
inetproai!13:40
inetprowho can I talk to to find out what changed in thunderbird 31.5.0 ?13:41
inetprosuddenly when clicking a link in an email it pops up two empty firefox windows13:41
inetproand it's like totally ignoring what is set in network.protocol-handler.app.http13:41
inetproand not looking at  the default browser setting in the OS either13:42
Kilosoh my fixit13:43
inetproeven when changing it to chrome it still open firefox13:44
stickyboyinetpro: Not sure.13:56
stickyboyMaybe some old environment variable in your session?13:56
Kiloshaha i have the same thing with eveo almost14:00
Kiloswhen chrome removed mail links open in opera but the minute chrome is installed all mail links go to chrome14:00
Kiloshi mopkop  14:00
Kilosand default browser set to opera14:01
mopkopHello All!14:01
mopkopToday is my first weekiversary with Ubuntu!14:02
stickyboymopkop: Wow, no kidding?14:02
Kiloshappy anniversary14:02
mopkopLol yes, thank you! In that time I broke pretty much everything which can be broken :). I Still have a lot to learn. Can't decide what to learn first, Python or Vala.14:05
inetprohappy weekiversary mopkop!14:05
Kilospython14:05
Kiloswbb14:12
nlsthzn_hi uncle Kilos ... dunno... some network issues from isp perhaps...14:25
nlsthzn_just for home from the big city14:25
nlsthzn_had to take the wife and the little one all the way there and back since yesterday to do passport etc...14:25
nlsthzn_stupid home affairs and their retarded laws14:25
Kilosouch nlsthzn_  that sucks14:26
nlsthzn_back now... mommy and baby seem ok ;)_14:27
nlsthzn_:)14:27
Kilosyay14:29
mopkopPython it is then.14:46
Kiloshaha good man14:46
Kilosyoung man14:46
mopkop2 or 3?14:47
Kiloswell three is where eveything is heading14:47
Kilosbut would be good to know 2 as well for converting 2 to 314:47
Kilosmaybe in 3 it explains 14:48
mopkopBoth then, But with which one should I start?14:48
Kilostumbleweed  can you give mopkop  advice please14:49
Kilosother wise we gotta wait for the fly14:49
* inetpro filed a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113990814:49
inetprolet's hope someone picks that up asap14:50
Kiloswell done inetpro  without that it would ride14:51
Kilosmost peeps dont know how to do that14:52
KilosMaaz  google what to study ? python 2 or 314:54
MaazKilos: "Python2orPython3 - Python Wiki" https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 :: "Porting Python 2 Code to Python 3 — Python 3.4.3 documentation" https://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.html :: "25.4. 2to3 - Automated Python 2 to 3 code translation — Python 2.7 ..." https://docs.python.org/2/library/2to3.html :: "Python 2 vs Python 3 and Tutorial -14:54
MaazStack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/442352/python-2-vs-python-3-and-tutorial…14:54
Kilosmopkop  see what those links say14:54
inetproyikes!14:55
Kiloswat nou?14:55
* inetpro wondering what comes after Vivid Vervet?14:56
Kilossome kinda whale or something14:56
Kilosor warthog14:56
inetproX14:56
Kiloswinsome warthog14:56
Kiloshmm...14:57
inetprooh you right14:57
Kilosthere is an animal with x i think14:57
inetpromust be W14:57
Kilosim always right, except when im wrong14:57
Kilosweeping wailing whooping whining wheesing14:58
Kiloswheezing14:59
inetproWet Whale?14:59
Kiloslol14:59
mopkoplol14:59
mopkopWheezing Weasel :)14:59
inetproWily Wolf14:59
inetproWitty Walrus14:59
Kilosya thats better14:59
Kilosi like the wolf one15:00
inetpromake your suggestion at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames15:00
mopkopWarthog is already taken. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_4.10_.28Warty_Warthog.2915:00
Kilosoh my they started backwards15:01
inetproKilos: no, see the History15:03
Kiloswily wolf is there already15:03
inetprohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#History15:03
Kiloshas there been a weasel before?15:10
Kiloshow about wily weasel15:10
mopkopDoesn't seem that way.15:10
Kilosright added15:11
inetprolol15:11
Kilosthem wikis are dangerous things, anyone can put anything there15:12
mopkopIndeed, but more people are willing to do good than mischief.15:13
Kilosyay15:13
inetproKilos: anyone?15:13
Kilosanyone that knows how to edit wikis i spose15:14
inetprono15:14
Kilosoh15:14
inetproanyone with an account15:14
Kilosaha15:14
Kilosi see there are more new members after fly15:15
* Kilos still waits for the pro15:15
Kilosso mopkop  is there any guidance in choice of 2 or 315:16
Kilosor which one first15:16
mopkop3, I think. If I start with 2, there will be a lot of "unlearning" to do.15:17
Kilosaha15:17
Kilosdont forget ibid is waiting for you15:17
mopkopYay, something to break :)15:18
Kilosso hurry up15:18
Kiloslol15:18
mopkopHow can I test it?15:18
mopkopDo I need a server for it?15:18
Kiloswell you can get the source15:18
Kilosand you can run it on your pc15:19
Kilosi ran one in my channel for a long time but it went to bed when i did15:19
mopkopI see. So you can connect 2 RTC accounts at the same time?15:20
mopkopLet me try that...15:20
Kilosthe package is in the repos15:21
Kilosbut it stopped working when ubuntu went to python 315:21
Kilosthe pro has a workaround15:21
Kilosinetpro  you gonna guide him?15:22
inetprouh... now? no15:22
Kilosnot this minute man15:22
mopkopI'll have to learn it first :)15:22
mopkopBut let me finish my assignment first - I'ts about Church management.15:23
Kilosya finish that first15:23
KaalkopYay, this works15:24
mopkopHow come it shows my isp when I login?15:25
Kilosbecause you dont have a cloak15:26
Kiloslook in your cupboard for a nice cloak15:27
Kilossorry15:27
mopkopHmm...15:27
Kilosgo to #freenode and ask the staff to cloak you15:27
mopkopSo I just cover my computer with it?15:27
Kiloslol15:28
Kilosyou need to have your nick registered with them fist15:28
Kilosi think that can be done from here15:28
mopkopLet me try something15:29
Kilos   /msg nickserv register mopkop  i think it is15:33
mopkopMy nick is already registered.15:33
Kilosthen go to #freenode and ask staff to cloak you15:33
mopkopIt seems like a long process. You guys won't somehow use my hostname and IP to hack me, will you? If not, I guess I'm safe :) 15:39
Kilosmost peeps here will rather help you15:40
mopkopI've noticed.15:40
mopkopBack to assignment...15:40
Squirmevening16:10
Kiloshi Squirm  16:21
Kilosadded yowling yack too16:33
mopkopGood evening Squirm!16:36
SquirmHey mopkop16:36
mopkopSo I'm thinking of opening a blog.16:51
Kiloslol16:51
mopkopWrite about my experiences with Ubuntu.16:52
mopkopThe Ubuntu Diaries :)16:53
Kilosmake one where i do16:59
Kilosim the only one there16:59
Kilosyolasite17:00
Kiloshttp://www.yola.com/blog17:00
Kilosi go eat17:00
mazalEvening everyone17:08
mopkopGood evening!17:08
* mazal looks around and can't remember who it was that helped him today17:09
mopkopAai, sorry Kilos, already registered with blogspot :(17:12
KilosRlol np man17:17
Kilosmazal  tinuvamac i think17:19
Kiloswith the account thing?17:19
mazalAh yes , that's the nick. Will thank him tomorrow 17:20
Kilosoh sorry mopkop  mine is also by blogspot17:22
Kilosmy site was with yola17:22
inetprosuperfly: how was your meeting last night?18:47
superflylong18:49
inetprohmm...18:51
inetprosounds like serious business18:53
Kiloshmm....19:28
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:48

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