[03:53] <Kilos> morning all
[04:29] <barrydk> More almal
[04:29] <Kilos> hi barrydk  
[04:32] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[04:32] <Tonberry> hi
[05:03] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn_  
[05:32] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[05:33] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:22] <Kilos> hmm... inetpro_  sleep sterk vandag
[07:22] <Kilos> stert
[07:38] <stickyboy> https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/wiki/Getting-Started
[07:39] <Kilos> good morning stickyboy  
[07:41] <stickyboy> Kilos: Hey
[07:41] <stickyboy> Anyone try Syncthing?
[07:41] <Kilos> dunno , wait and see
[07:41] <Kilos> they all seem snowed under atm
[07:45] <stickyboy> I am even a bit snowed under.
[07:47] <Kilos> you mustnt forget to share on the africa channelas well  hey
[07:48] <inetpro> ai!
[07:48] <inetpro> Guten Morgen
[07:48] <Kilos> lol hiya inetpro  
[07:49] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[07:50] <stickyboy> Kilos: :P
[07:50] <stickyboy> Mac OS X sucks!
[07:51] <stickyboy> But Mac hardware is z0mg wow so nice.
[07:51] <Kilos> haha thats a change of tune from a few weeks back
[07:51]  * inetpro tries to shake it off 
[07:51] <inetpro> Kilos: how goes it this morning?
[07:52] <Kilos> im good ty inetpro  what are you shaking off?
[07:52] <Kilos> flue
[07:52] <inetpro> the snow
[07:52] <Kilos> rofl
[07:52] <stickyboy> inetpro: Do you ever play with Go stuff?
[07:52] <stickyboy> I'm not a developer, so I don't dabble in new languages.
[07:53] <stickyboy> But there are lots of sweet tools written in Go lately.
[07:53] <inetpro> stickyboy: nope
[07:53] <inetpro> never tried go but have seen it floating around
[07:53]  * inetpro still needs to catch up with python even
[07:54] <Kilos> lol 
[07:55]  * inetpro still does old school stuff like bash, sed, awk, perl, etc
[07:57] <Webtricity> Teraco Cape Town is on fire... Great Westerford Building on the 3rd Floor
[07:57] <Webtricity> fun times
[07:58] <Kilos> oh my
[08:01] <Webtricity> Dear Valued Customer,
[08:01] <Webtricity> Please note we have an emergency situation in Teraco Cape Town. 
[08:01] <Webtricity> We have been informed that there is a large fire in the Great Westerford Building on the 3rd Floor and that the room is currently on fire. Our Wireless equipment on the roof has been affected by the fire and multiple links in the Cape Town could possibly be affected in the short term. 
[08:01] <Webtricity> The fire brigade has multiple vehicles on site and are busy extinguishing  the fire. Teraco and our node in Teraco is currently still operational and unaffected but there is no guarantee how long this will last. Two major problems are that the power could fail or be switched off by the fire brigade and/or the air conditioners on the roof may overheat or even be shut down. 
[08:01] <Webtricity> We are on high alert and have people onsite to monitor the situation. 
[08:01] <Webtricity> Should the facility fail , it will have a detrimental impact on our Cape Town Network and same will apply to many other operators in the country as Teraco is a critical node for most service providers and Telco’s. 
[08:03] <Kilos> that dont sound good at all
[08:08] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[08:11] <TinuvaMac> its scary
[08:13] <Kilos> hi superfly  are you near there?
[08:15] <Webtricity> eskom has cut power to the building
 eskom has cut power to the building
[08:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> it has?
[08:20] <stickyboy> regexes in udev...
[08:20] <stickyboy> not real regexes...
[08:20] <stickyboy> globs!
[08:21] <Webtricity> Sven Welzel ‏@svenwelzel  18m18 minutes ago
[08:21] <Webtricity> Eskom Power to the Greater Westerford building has been cut as firefighting efforts continue... #newlands #capetown #fire
[08:21] <Webtricity> Our equipment there is still pingable
[08:21] <Webtricity> which means if Eskom did cut the power, the generators are now supplying power
[08:21] <Webtricity> so thats rather a redundant move
[08:23] <superfly> Kilos: occasionally
[08:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:23] <superfly> Kilos: oh, to Great Westerford? no
[08:23] <Kilos> good
[08:25] <TinuvaMac> or isnt it only running on ups now?
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> not for long
[08:25] <TinuvaMac> true
[08:26] <TinuvaMac> either way, this not going to turn out good
[08:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> and half of the people working with this stuff are probably at scaleconf
[08:33] <superfly> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hosting-storage/121054-teraco-hetzner-cape-town-dc-unaffected-by-building-fire.html
[08:40] <Webtricity> We have been informed by Teraco that the fire has been contained. Please be advised that Eskom has cut power to the building and that the building is currently running on the generators.
[09:02] <TinuvaMac> fok me, what an exciting morning
[09:03] <Webtricity> I think God is angry with Cape Town... All these fires
[09:08] <Squirm> morning
[09:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[09:10] <Squirm> Sounds like we have info hosted there too
[09:10] <Squirm> :/
[09:12] <TinuvaMac> i wouldnt be surprised
[09:12] <inetpro> eish!
[09:17] <Squirm> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/hosting-storage/121054-teraco-hetzner-cape-town-dc-unaffected-by-building-fire.html
[09:17] <Squirm> Well, sorry, we're with Hetzner
[09:18] <Squirm> Same building :P
[09:25] <Kilos> Maaz  tell magespawn http://www.zdnet.com/article/companies-really-want-linux-savvy-employees-and-they-want-them-now/
[09:25] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[09:42] <Squirm> Head they put the fire out a while ago now
[09:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> yup, http://www.hetzner.co.za/helpcentre/index.php/network-notices/details/4929
[10:41] <mazal> mirrag
[10:42] <mazal> There wouldn't happen to be a web africa manager here ?
[11:11]  * ThatGraemeGuy prods TinuvaMac 
[11:39] <TinuvaMac> im not a WA manager
[11:39] <inetpro> mazal: what's wrong?
[11:39] <TinuvaMac> but i do work at wa
[11:39] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: have you killed the fire yet?
[11:40] <inetpro> not killed*
[11:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> which one? :-)
[11:41] <inetpro> eish! There's more than one?
[11:41] <inetpro> still*
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> the one that nearly destroyed a data centre or the one that was destroying most of the greater cape peninsula?
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> either way, I think both are no longer an issue
[11:41] <TinuvaMac> i wouldnt say it nearly destroyed a datacenter
[11:41] <TinuvaMac> it was close, but not nearly close
[11:42] <TinuvaMac> as in, same building, but like 4 floors away
[11:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you would say that if you were being overly dramatic
[11:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> :D
[11:42] <TinuvaMac> yes
[11:42] <TinuvaMac> :P
[11:42] <TinuvaMac> it was a great scare however
[11:43] <TinuvaMac> if it were to happen though, i bet a few insurance companies wouldnt be too happy
[11:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh
[11:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> can't insure data, the machines are the least of the hassle
[11:44] <TinuvaMac> data should be backed up offsite
[11:44] <TinuvaMac> that was our worry, checking that, that was indeed the case
[11:46] <TinuvaMac> i think 1 companies' office was destroyed, and half the wireless equipment on the roof, mostly Amobia will be having fun cleaning that up
[11:46] <mazal> TinuvaMac: Which section do you work ?
[11:47] <TinuvaMac> networking
[11:47] <mazal> Looking for someone in billing
[11:47] <TinuvaMac> doubt any of the billing agents/managers even know what irc is
[11:48] <mazal> I just took a chance at a "maybe" :)
[11:48] <TinuvaMac> for sure, its worth a shot
[11:48] <TinuvaMac> what do you need help with anyway?
[11:49] <mazal> Short version: Money is not being deducted , invoices shows paid , reported 3 times , support don't seem to care
[11:49] <mazal> Basically you have been giving me free internet for months now
[11:49] <mazal> 3 months
[11:50] <TinuvaMac> well if you really want i can escalate that for you
[11:50] <TinuvaMac> just need your client code
[11:50] <mazal> Lemme fetch that quick
[11:50] <inetpro> give him another 6 months free as a bonus for being honest
[11:50] <TinuvaMac> otherwise,the other procedure is, you wait about a year, someone in development pick up on it, and they decide to fix it at that point
[11:51] <TinuvaMac> inetpro: if i had that power i would :P
[12:44] <mazal> Bye everyone , God bless
[12:56] <Kilos> nlsthzn_  whats happening?
[13:40] <inetpro> ai!
[13:41] <inetpro> who can I talk to to find out what changed in thunderbird 31.5.0 ?
[13:41] <inetpro> suddenly when clicking a link in an email it pops up two empty firefox windows
[13:41] <inetpro> and it's like totally ignoring what is set in network.protocol-handler.app.http
[13:42] <inetpro> and not looking at  the default browser setting in the OS either
[13:43] <Kilos> oh my fixit
[13:44] <inetpro> even when changing it to chrome it still open firefox
[13:56] <stickyboy> inetpro: Not sure.
[13:56] <stickyboy> Maybe some old environment variable in your session?
[14:00] <Kilos> haha i have the same thing with eveo almost
[14:00] <Kilos> when chrome removed mail links open in opera but the minute chrome is installed all mail links go to chrome
[14:00] <Kilos> hi mopkop  
[14:01] <Kilos> and default browser set to opera
[14:01] <mopkop> Hello All!
[14:02] <mopkop> Today is my first weekiversary with Ubuntu!
[14:02] <stickyboy> mopkop: Wow, no kidding?
[14:02] <Kilos> happy anniversary
[14:05] <mopkop> Lol yes, thank you! In that time I broke pretty much everything which can be broken :). I Still have a lot to learn. Can't decide what to learn first, Python or Vala.
[14:05] <inetpro> happy weekiversary mopkop!
[14:05] <Kilos> python
[14:12] <Kilos> wbb
[14:25] <nlsthzn_> hi uncle Kilos ... dunno... some network issues from isp perhaps...
[14:25] <nlsthzn_> just for home from the big city
[14:25] <nlsthzn_> had to take the wife and the little one all the way there and back since yesterday to do passport etc...
[14:25] <nlsthzn_> stupid home affairs and their retarded laws
[14:26] <Kilos> ouch nlsthzn_  that sucks
[14:27] <nlsthzn_> back now... mommy and baby seem ok ;)_
[14:27] <nlsthzn_> :)
[14:29] <Kilos> yay
[14:46] <mopkop> Python it is then.
[14:46] <Kilos> haha good man
[14:46] <Kilos> young man
[14:47] <mopkop> 2 or 3?
[14:47] <Kilos> well three is where eveything is heading
[14:47] <Kilos> but would be good to know 2 as well for converting 2 to 3
[14:48] <Kilos> maybe in 3 it explains 
[14:48] <mopkop> Both then, But with which one should I start?
[14:49] <Kilos> tumbleweed  can you give mopkop  advice please
[14:49] <Kilos> other wise we gotta wait for the fly
[14:49]  * inetpro filed a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1139908
[14:50] <inetpro> let's hope someone picks that up asap
[14:51] <Kilos> well done inetpro  without that it would ride
[14:52] <Kilos> most peeps dont know how to do that
[14:54] <Kilos> Maaz  google what to study ? python 2 or 3
[14:54] <Maaz> Kilos: "Python2orPython3 - Python Wiki" https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 :: "Porting Python 2 Code to Python 3 — Python 3.4.3 documentation" https://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.html :: "25.4. 2to3 - Automated Python 2 to 3 code translation — Python 2.7 ..." https://docs.python.org/2/library/2to3.html :: "Python 2 vs Python 3 and Tutorial -
[14:54] <Maaz> Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/442352/python-2-vs-python-3-and-tutorial…
[14:54] <Kilos> mopkop  see what those links say
[14:55] <inetpro> yikes!
[14:55] <Kilos> wat nou?
[14:56]  * inetpro wondering what comes after Vivid Vervet?
[14:56] <Kilos> some kinda whale or something
[14:56] <Kilos> or warthog
[14:56] <inetpro> X
[14:56] <Kilos> winsome warthog
[14:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:57] <inetpro> oh you right
[14:57] <Kilos> there is an animal with x i think
[14:57] <inetpro> must be W
[14:57] <Kilos> im always right, except when im wrong
[14:58] <Kilos> weeping wailing whooping whining wheesing
[14:59] <Kilos> wheezing
[14:59] <inetpro> Wet Whale?
[14:59] <Kilos> lol
[14:59] <mopkop> lol
[14:59] <mopkop> Wheezing Weasel :)
[14:59] <inetpro> Wily Wolf
[14:59] <inetpro> Witty Walrus
[14:59] <Kilos> ya thats better
[15:00] <Kilos> i like the wolf one
[15:00] <inetpro> make your suggestion at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[15:00] <mopkop> Warthog is already taken. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_4.10_.28Warty_Warthog.29
[15:01] <Kilos> oh my they started backwards
[15:03] <inetpro> Kilos: no, see the History
[15:03] <Kilos> wily wolf is there already
[15:03] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#History
[15:10] <Kilos> has there been a weasel before?
[15:10] <Kilos> how about wily weasel
[15:10] <mopkop> Doesn't seem that way.
[15:11] <Kilos> right added
[15:11] <inetpro> lol
[15:12] <Kilos> them wikis are dangerous things, anyone can put anything there
[15:13] <mopkop> Indeed, but more people are willing to do good than mischief.
[15:13] <Kilos> yay
[15:13] <inetpro> Kilos: anyone?
[15:14] <Kilos> anyone that knows how to edit wikis i spose
[15:14] <inetpro> no
[15:14] <Kilos> oh
[15:14] <inetpro> anyone with an account
[15:14] <Kilos> aha
[15:15] <Kilos> i see there are more new members after fly
[15:15]  * Kilos still waits for the pro
[15:16] <Kilos> so mopkop  is there any guidance in choice of 2 or 3
[15:16] <Kilos> or which one first
[15:17] <mopkop> 3, I think. If I start with 2, there will be a lot of "unlearning" to do.
[15:17] <Kilos> aha
[15:17] <Kilos> dont forget ibid is waiting for you
[15:18] <mopkop> Yay, something to break :)
[15:18] <Kilos> so hurry up
[15:18] <Kilos> lol
[15:18] <mopkop> How can I test it?
[15:18] <mopkop> Do I need a server for it?
[15:18] <Kilos> well you can get the source
[15:19] <Kilos> and you can run it on your pc
[15:19] <Kilos> i ran one in my channel for a long time but it went to bed when i did
[15:20] <mopkop> I see. So you can connect 2 RTC accounts at the same time?
[15:20] <mopkop> Let me try that...
[15:21] <Kilos> the package is in the repos
[15:21] <Kilos> but it stopped working when ubuntu went to python 3
[15:21] <Kilos> the pro has a workaround
[15:22] <Kilos> inetpro  you gonna guide him?
[15:22] <inetpro> uh... now? no
[15:22] <Kilos> not this minute man
[15:22] <mopkop> I'll have to learn it first :)
[15:23] <mopkop> But let me finish my assignment first - I'ts about Church management.
[15:23] <Kilos> ya finish that first
[15:24] <Kaalkop> Yay, this works
[15:25] <mopkop> How come it shows my isp when I login?
[15:26] <Kilos> because you dont have a cloak
[15:27] <Kilos> look in your cupboard for a nice cloak
[15:27] <Kilos> sorry
[15:27] <mopkop> Hmm...
[15:27] <Kilos> go to #freenode and ask the staff to cloak you
[15:27] <mopkop> So I just cover my computer with it?
[15:28] <Kilos> lol
[15:28] <Kilos> you need to have your nick registered with them fist
[15:28] <Kilos> i think that can be done from here
[15:29] <mopkop> Let me try something
[15:33] <Kilos>    /msg nickserv register mopkop  i think it is
[15:33] <mopkop> My nick is already registered.
[15:33] <Kilos> then go to #freenode and ask staff to cloak you
[15:39] <mopkop> It seems like a long process. You guys won't somehow use my hostname and IP to hack me, will you? If not, I guess I'm safe :) 
[15:40] <Kilos> most peeps here will rather help you
[15:40] <mopkop> I've noticed.
[15:40] <mopkop> Back to assignment...
[16:10] <Squirm> evening
[16:21] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[16:33] <Kilos> added yowling yack too
[16:36] <mopkop> Good evening Squirm!
[16:36] <Squirm> Hey mopkop
[16:51] <mopkop> So I'm thinking of opening a blog.
[16:51] <Kilos> lol
[16:52] <mopkop> Write about my experiences with Ubuntu.
[16:53] <mopkop> The Ubuntu Diaries :)
[16:59] <Kilos> make one where i do
[16:59] <Kilos> im the only one there
[17:00] <Kilos> yolasite
[17:00] <Kilos> http://www.yola.com/blog
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:08] <mazal> Evening everyone
[17:08] <mopkop> Good evening!
[17:09]  * mazal looks around and can't remember who it was that helped him today
[17:12] <mopkop> Aai, sorry Kilos, already registered with blogspot :(
[17:17] <Kilos> Rlol np man
[17:19] <Kilos> mazal  tinuvamac i think
[17:19] <Kilos> with the account thing?
[17:20] <mazal> Ah yes , that's the nick. Will thank him tomorrow 
[17:22] <Kilos> oh sorry mopkop  mine is also by blogspot
[17:22] <Kilos> my site was with yola
[18:47] <inetpro> superfly: how was your meeting last night?
[18:49] <superfly> long
[18:51] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:53] <inetpro> sounds like serious business
[19:28] <Kilos> hmm....
[19:48] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight