[00:10] <Unit193> bluesabre: No, I didn't.  I'm not subbed. :3
[00:13] <bluesabre> Unit193: np, took care of it :)
[00:13] <Unit193> Yey!  And I'll check when I'm back to better internet. :P
[07:05] <Unit193> Mmmm.  So the new verve plugin needs to make it in for Wombat.
[07:07] <Unit193> (Fails gcc5: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/198355787/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-i386.xfce4-verve-plugin_1.0.0-3_BUILDING.txt.gz)
[07:59] <elfy> mornign
[08:03] <Unit193> http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20150202-gcc5-vivid.html#xubuntu that is.
[08:34] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Any ETA on the remaining 4.12 packages?
[08:42] <elfy> slickymaster: are you not seeing the offscreen bug now? 
[08:42] <ochosi> i think nothing has been done to really fix that, so it's sorta impossible not to see it
[08:43] <elfy> just wondered looking at the tracker - I still see it 
[09:08] <elfy> o/ brainvvash 
[09:09] <brainvvash> good morning elfy 
[09:55] <slickymasterWork> thanks for that knome and pleia2 
[10:00] <slickymasterWork> elfy, ochosi, I didn't caught the offscreen bug with yesterday image
[10:00] <ochosi> wat, for realz?
[10:00] <slickymasterWork> yeaps ochosi :)
[10:00] <ochosi> that is weird news :)
[10:00] <ochosi> afaik nobody has touched this so it theoretically shouldn't work
[10:01] <slickymasterWork> it did, even with the Install (manual partitioning)
[10:01] <slickymasterWork> I didn't have to start from withing the live session
[10:02] <ochosi> ok, i'll check that out a bit later
[10:02] <ochosi> with daily i presume?
[10:02] <slickymasterWork> okie
[10:02] <slickymasterWork> yes, with yesterday's daily
[10:50] <ochosi> slickymasterWork, elfy, ali1234: wow, indeed the offscreen bug is resolved in the latest daily /o\
[10:52] <ochosi> i guess it must've been this: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=58f9f51d1f438dcaa208937314c9d61bb33d1574
[10:54] <slickymasterWork> most probably
[10:54] <slickymasterWork> anyway it's fixed and that's all it matters for us
[10:54] <ochosi> yeah, i want to mark the bug fixed with a reference to the correct commit though
[10:54] <ochosi> still waiting for feedback from upstream about that
[10:55] <slickymasterWork> :)~
[10:56] <ochosi> i guess both commits are related to fixing the bug, maybe it doesnt really matter whether it was just one or both
[10:59]  * slickymasterWork agrees
[10:59] <slickymasterWork> knome, the screenshots for the installer slideshow: http://imgur.com/L9nDGSS and http://imgur.com/gKDma6u
[11:00] <slickymasterWork> *screenshoots
[11:01] <slickymasterWork> bah, it was right the first time :P
[12:44] <jjfrv8> away
[12:44] <jjfrv8> away afk
[12:45] <jjfrv8> haven't had my coffee yet :(
[12:55] <knome> :)
[15:26] <bluesabre> after finally reinstalling vivid, nvivia drivers work and sound quality is greatly improved :)
[15:27] <elfy> hey bluesabre :)
[15:27] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[15:27] <ochosi> oh hey guys :)
[15:27] <bluesabre> how goes?
[15:27] <bluesabre> hey ochosi
[15:27] <elfy> hi ochosi :)
[15:28] <ochosi> sorry about the meeting time, hope some ppl can atten
[15:28] <ochosi> d
[15:28] <bluesabre> snow day in kentucky
[15:28] <elfy> ochosi: I *might* manage - not sure tbh 
[15:29] <ochosi> bluesabre: lucky you!
[15:29] <slickymasterWork> not sure also ochosi
[15:30] <ochosi> :/
[15:30] <elfy> ochosi:  but I can give you my opinion beforehand for the 3 discussion points and #info's
[15:31] <elfy> bluesabre: I've lost track on what's going on with 4.12 - still trying to get something out of [NEW] ?
[15:32] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, why not
[15:32] <bluesabre> elfy: its stuck in -proposed now
[15:32] <bluesabre> going to start pinging once my laptop is back to normal
[15:33] <ochosi> i guess you already read that the ubiquity bug is fixed with xfwm4 4.12?
[15:34] <elfy> ochosi: yep - meant to mention that - I double checked :)
[15:34] <bluesabre> cool, glad to hear
[15:34] <bluesabre> I have an efi laptop so the default booted me to the live session, didn't check
[15:34] <elfy> also need to double check this odd arrange icon thing I see here
[15:51] <elfy> have people other than Unit193 and me seen that systemd as default is really close now? 
[15:52] <bluesabre> yes
[15:52] <bluesabre> last blocker out of the way with nfs
[15:52] <elfy> yep
[15:52] <bluesabre> and init gets installed by default
[15:52] <bluesabre> its super close
[15:52] <elfy> yep - next week looks like
[15:53]  * bluesabre is prepared to not update for 2 weeks
[15:53]  * elfy hadn't got around to installing systemd-sysv so I booted from first line yet
[15:56] <elfy> might be useful as an #announcement in meeting perhaps
[16:10] <bluesabre> ochosi: missing icon on first run of transmission: http://i.imgur.com/g3SmBwM.png
[16:10] <ochosi> use gtkinspector pls
[16:10] <ochosi> and tell me the name of that icon
[16:10] <bluesabre> it just shows image-missing
[16:10] <ochosi> wat
[16:10] <ochosi> that is weird, it should show something more
[16:11] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/1Zkgv5L.png
[16:11] <ochosi> reminds me, i have to set the icons in gtk2 on buttons to 16px
[16:11] <ochosi> otherwise everything is mighty inconsistent with gtk3
[16:12] <ochosi> meh
[16:12] <ochosi> i guess we have to look into transmissions code then
[16:12] <bluesabre> yeah
[16:12] <ochosi> have you tried with ubuntu's theme?
[16:12] <ochosi> or adwaita-icon-theme?
[16:12] <ochosi> any theme that might display that icon would also solve the riddle
[16:13] <bluesabre> image-missing in adwaita, gnome, and humanity
[16:13] <bluesabre> >.<
[16:15] <ochosi> pfff
[16:15] <bluesabre> downloading faenza
[16:16] <ochosi> unlikely such an old theme would have an icon that gnome doesn't
[16:16] <ochosi> maybe it uses "image-missing"? :D
[16:17] <bluesabre> image-missing there too
[16:17] <bluesabre> craaaaaazy
[16:18]  * ochosi shrugs
[16:18] <ochosi> maybe ask in #u-devel?
[16:24] <ochosi> bluesabre: we might need another x-d-s release/upload before UIF
[16:24] <ochosi> because of my last commit
[16:29] <slickymasterWork> am I gone absolutely mental or weren't we shipping VirtualBox in our image about a month ago?
[16:30] <slickymasterWork> we aren't now. At least as of yesterday's image
[16:30] <slickymasterWork> elfy, ochosi ^^
[16:31] <ochosi> we're definitely not intending to ship that by default
[16:31] <elfy> shouldn't be shipping vbox 
[16:32] <ochosi> so not doing so now is definitely a good thing
[16:32] <elfy> ochosi: lol
[16:32] <slickymasterWork> but I swear that it was there, then
[16:32] <slickymasterWork> back then
[16:32] <elfy> pretty sure it's never been
[16:35] <slickymasterWork> elfy, I'm sure of what I'm saying. I can't now be completely accurate about the image in question, it was from the end of January - beginning of February, but that it had a default VBox installed, it had
[16:37] <elfy> don't disbelieve you - if that was the case, then good it's not now 
[16:44] <slickymasterWork> yeah, but it's odd anyway
[16:44] <elfy> yep
[16:55] <ochosi> bluesabre: mousepad gtk3 is a bit crashy, let's rather go with the gtk2 build for now
[18:41] <elfy> ochosi bluesabre - so systemd finally got a real nod for Monday
[18:45] <ochosi> k
[18:45] <ochosi> good to know
[19:00] <Noskcaj> ochosi, What are you doing to get mousepad to crash? I've not seen one yet
[19:00] <ochosi> Noskcaj: open multiple files from thunar
[19:06] <elfy> ochosi: really? I did that to say I didn't see Noskcaj's issue
[19:07] <ochosi> it's not bout multiple files at once, it's about opening files time and time again
[19:07] <ochosi> then sometimes it freezes
[19:07] <ochosi> and xfwm4 asks for it to be killed
[19:08] <ochosi> no idea what the cause is, haven't really had the time to get a backtrace or even terminal output
[19:08] <elfy> ok - same file, different files? I can at least try and confirm 
[19:08] <ochosi> different files
[19:08] <ochosi> i just used it regularly as always
[19:09] <ochosi> sometimes it crashed
[19:09] <ochosi> and i used the gtk2 version on a daily basis as well, never crashed
[19:09] <elfy> ok - well I tend towards nano tbh for most - generall system things - I'll force me :)
[19:11] <ochosi> for that i use vim :)
[19:18] <bluesabre> ochosi: I had the issue with mousepad gtk2 daily in trusty
[19:18] <ochosi> oh nice :/
[19:18] <bluesabre> it got so bad that I had to switch to using gedit at work
[19:18] <ochosi> so there might be a crasher in mousepad regardless of toolkit
[19:18] <bluesabre> yeah
[19:19] <ochosi> we should prolly try to get a backtrace then
[19:19] <ochosi> or not ship 0.4.0 just yet, if we can hold back on that
[19:19] <bluesabre> haven't reproduced on newer versions of ubuntu
[19:19] <ochosi> right
[19:19] <ochosi> i'm on vivid
[19:20] <bluesabre> mhm
[19:21] <elfy> ochosi: last time I used vim was for sudoers ... 
[19:21] <elfy> that was just awesome fun
[19:23] <ochosi> bluesabre: a few days more and i think we can throw xfpm-gtk3 into the staging PPA so elfy can have some fun ;)
[19:23] <elfy> :)
[19:23] <bluesabre> ochosi: sounds like a plan :D
[19:23] <ochosi> it's already working and not really crashing anymore
[19:23] <ochosi> so just a few more tweaks now
[19:24]  * elfy bets some of that ether coffee he can break it ... 
[19:26] <ochosi> give it your best shot, mate! :)
[19:26] <ochosi> (only regressions count though)
[19:27] <elfy> hah
[19:28] <Noskcaj> ochosi, I can't see any crashes here, 0.4.0 on vivid
[19:28] <ochosi> Noskcaj: good for you. luckily it only happens rarely
[19:28] <ochosi> it does happen though
[19:29] <Noskcaj> ok, i'll keep looking for it
[19:29] <ochosi> when i'm done with my xfpm work i'll probably try to reproduce it and get traces
[23:54] <ochosi> Noskcaj: that crash of mousepad just happened again. seems opening >7 instances helps