=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === aaron is now known as ahoneybun === aaron is now known as Guest73321 === Guest73321 is now known as ahoneybun [04:29] karni: yes, we are here [05:10] nik90: shoot === aaron is now known as ahoneybun [07:43] karni: yep we are here, but you need to ask t1mp, kalikiana or zsombi about the toolkit [07:44] karni: Just saw your mesage now that zbenjamin pointed out :) [07:46] karni: unfortunately OSK works so that it is hidden when text input looses foxus. We have a code in the components which also does that, however the fimple Qt TextInput and TextEdit components also do that when they loose focus. [07:47] karni: and btw, usually we are sleeping at the time you posted the Q :D [07:48] karni: one wat to get teh OSK back is to ask explicitly by calling Qt.input.show(), but tthat will produce flickering === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:17] good morning [09:36] nik90: wheeeee http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/revision/208 [09:45] nik90: would like to submit clock for QA on Monday - assuming you're happy with it, and more translations land [09:46] nik90: looks like es, fr, de, cn, tw - all the important ones - landed. [09:46] nik90, popey, I was looking at the core apps branches the other day while I was updating the code of the sponsorship page. One think that's a bit confusing with clock is that the trunk branch is actually this one https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk - i.e. it's an obsolete branch (saucy) and its alias it's different than its name (saucy-13.10 vs. trunk). Would you mind if I rename it to reflect it's not trunk anymore? [09:46] dpm: so long as that doesn't break anything else like jenkins [09:47] (I have broken the world by renaming things in launchpad before) [09:47] good point [09:48] I think it's something to bear in mind when switching trunks (e.g. from a reboot), but afaik, this branch is obsolete. But I'll wait for nik90 to confirm [09:57] k [09:58] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Day of Unplugging! :-D === mzanetti_ is now known as mzanetti [10:22] Good morning [10:22] morning nik90 [10:23] popey: I cant believe the translations have landed for es,fre de and few other important ones!!! They are so fast [10:23] yeah, amazing isn't it? [10:24] yeah [10:25] popey: I am fine with submitting clock to QA on monday now that we have translations for some of the languages, In another 1-2 days it should get more. [10:25] nik90: great. do you still keep manual test cases in trunk, or are they somewhere else? [10:26] popey: in trunk under tests/manual/ folder [10:26] coolio [10:27] Will grab latest click and put on people.c.c and submit a request on monday morning. [10:27] along with reminders, and others :) [10:27] busy busy QA :) [10:27] dpm: Indeed https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk is obsolete. It was created before I joined the clock app project. I was actually about to point it out to you since it seems to be getting translation updates still ;) [10:27] popey: I will create a changelog document like lasttime to help QA [10:28] kk [10:28] thanks [10:29] nik90, ok, thanks, done, and now it doesn't appear on https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app to avoid confusion. Only the two active branches are shown as a series [10:31] dpm: thnx :) [10:33] zsombi: hi [10:33] zsombi: yesterday we were looking for any example or help on using https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Styles.PageHeadStyle/ [10:35] zsombi: I tried different ways to use it but failed miserably :) like Page { Head { style: PageHeadStyle {} } } }, etc. [10:38] nik90: well, first of ahl should never be Page { Head { style }} :) [10:39] dpm, can you help a bit with a content review of the app? [10:39] and/or nav/style [10:40] zsombi: well I remember that when I wanted to style the textfield for instance, I did TextField { style: Something {} }, so I figured I try the same thing. [10:40] dholbach, I should be able to after lunch. Which part in particular would you want me to look at? [10:40] nik90: yeah, but there's no Head as component :) [10:41] dpm, general impression and ideas for improving nav/style [10:41] zsombi: true...so how does one use it after all? [10:41] nik90, popey, yeah, the minute you send a call for translations to ubuntu-translators, you get a bunch of them done - translators ftw! :-) [10:41] nik90: do you need this for one single page, or for teh entire app? [10:42] zsombi: both tbh [10:43] nik90: for the entire app the way is to create a theme for your app, and override PageHeadStyle [10:43] dholbach, ok. One thing I already noticed is that for the phone theme it'd be nice to have a way to switch back and forth between sections. Not sure if we need to use a PageStack. For the web theme, I think it'd be nice to have breadcrumb links [10:43] dpm: indeed..they rock [10:43] zsombi: ok [10:43] dpm, and maybe review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/content-fixes2/+merge/252076 - just a Makefile step dropped in one of the merge proposals and a re-added line break [10:44] dpm, right... that makes sense - that's something I'd need help with [10:44] davidcalle, just a thought for the future, I know you're busy with other projects, but at some point we should probably give https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ some love. It's probably one of the most important pages, and I think it'd benefit from a new layout and a review [10:45] * dpm puts it in his todo list [10:46] dholbach, ack [10:46] dpm, agreed, I was thinking about when doing https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/ [10:46] dholbach, did you hear back from daker? [10:46] no, not yet [10:47] davidcalle, indeed [10:47] I think he was busy helping out with some ubuntu-html5-theme stuff [10:47] ah, davidcalle and did you hear back from cwayne regarding the OEM pages? [10:48] dpm, forgot to ask him, he was on vacation last week, I will when he arrives [10:49] davidcalle, ok, thanks [10:50] dholbach, reviewed and approved, thanks! [10:51] thanks dpm [10:51] dholbach, did you check with IS regarding the hosting on help.u.c? [10:51] dpm, one question is going to be if we move on with both themes or not [10:51] dpm, yes - I'm still in discussions with them [10:51] ok, cool [10:52] wrong button [10:52] :) [10:52] lol [10:52] good thing it wasn't labelled "explode" [10:52] they said that the rest of help.u.c is put together by updating bzr checkout of generated html [10:53] if they insist on that, I'll set up a cronjobbed branch on people.c.c which simply unpacks the .deb from the daily build [10:53] ok [10:54] dholbach: i'll it check it tonight [10:54] * dholbach hugs daker [10:55] dholbach, regarding the two themes, I think I'd wait for a review from a theming expert (i.e. daker :) to see if it's worth maintaining the html-ui-toolkit theme [10:56] if it's too much work to make it usable, then I'd suggest to go for only using the web theme [10:58] * dholbach nods [10:58] dpm, regarding breadcrumbs for the web theme... what we could do relatively easily would be to add static links in the navbar of the template [10:58] like "home", "get in touch", "faq overview" or some such [10:59] although I'm not quite sure how we could translate those [10:59] mh [11:00] popey: can you review and approve https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-typo-libya/+merge/252079 .. It fixes a typo in the city name Libya. I will top approve it once vthompson's branch lands [11:00] ya [11:01] oops, hit top approve, undone [11:02] :) [11:03] think I got in before jenkins (not hard) [11:05] its fine, it shouldn't create a code conflict since its a very small mp [11:06] dholbach, ah, good point about translations [11:06] will need to look at theming in pelican to understand it better [11:06] I'll file a bug about adding breadcrumbs for nav [11:06] cool [11:07] dpm, it's generally possible, but I don't know how to tell to po4a to extract the translations from there [11:07] :) [11:08] dpm, I guess I'll write another blog post explaining all the work that's on our collective plates now :) [11:09] yay :) [11:27] popey: hi, have you seen the MP for ubuntu-geonames? [11:28] m-b-o: hey.. no.. let me see [11:28] https://code.launchpad.net/~martin-borho/ubuntu-geonames/wildcard-and-geopoint-searches/+merge/251364 === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:28] thanks [11:28] awesome! [11:28] popey: the version on the vps should be the same, just removed the default '*' [11:29] m-b-o: I'll do some testing and file an RT. I have to get IS to update the main site. Need to get wider testing before I can do that as this is used by all Ubuntu installers ;S [11:29] Thank you for that! [11:30] np [11:30] * popey adds to ever growing todo list [11:30] (near the top) [11:46] zsombi: ack, thanks. I usually also sleep at the time I asked the question ;D [11:46] karni: :D [12:04] popey: Here's the new changelog http://pad.ubuntu.com/clock-app-changelog (link is more easier to remember now :D ) [12:04] will keep updating it [12:04] thanks nik90 [12:16] https://imgur.com/Su3qsah [12:16] popey: it seems we have a big issue! :) ^^ [12:17] oooh! [12:17] That was quick. [12:17] (also, don't scare me like that) :) [12:18] I was expecting to spend more time on it [12:18] hahah [12:18] yeah, quite a big issue ... you want to scale it down instead of using scrollbars [12:18] :P [12:18] Oh no! You'll have to take a weekend off. :) [12:18] given we only talked about this ~24 hours ago, nice work! [12:19] just waited those 40 minutes to compile it with make -j5 :P [12:19] haha [12:19] You know how to make me happy on a friday! [12:19] ahaha [12:19] And now I know how I'll have to spend my weekend, I suppose :P [12:20] oh, wow, just seen the screenshot, nice work sverzegnassi! [12:21] rpadovani: nope! there are still many things to do before asking for "fast" reviews! :) [12:21] dpm: thanks! [12:21] sverzegnassi, "fast" :D Good to know, so I can focus on calculator. Great work btw! [12:22] I like how the channel topic randomly ends with | --allow-untrusted ;D [12:23] :) [12:23] because everyone forgets that [12:24] popey, your /home partition is on a SSD or an HDD? [12:24] SSD [12:24] laptop has two SSDs [12:25] one for /, one for /home [12:26] oki, because I have it on HDD (/ on SSD), and first sync of 300notes account takes ~45 seconds, that is a lot. On SSD ~10, on krillin ~20. So I want to understand if is my hdd that is going to explode or what [12:28] well the account is quite a lot of notes, and some are massive [12:29] karni: lol [12:31] rpadovani: can you take a look at the favorite system in calculator? it seems a bit glitchy on a device with no favorites. [12:32] rpadovani: I'll file a bug in a bit, but basically it seems needlessly hard to get a calculation to show up in favorites === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:45] t1mp: I guess you can help nik90 better on styling individual page headers separately... [12:47] zsombi, t1mp: If either of you can provide me with code samples on using the style components listed in https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Styles/, I can offer to add them in the SDK docs to help developers :) [12:47] ahayzen: ping [12:47] nik90, pong [12:48] nik90: what are you trying to do? [12:48] ahayzen: hey, in weather-reboot, does it already display the weather at a location? At the moment I see a blank white rectangle with only the settings buttons shown [12:48] nik90, erm it displays them at locations imported from the old app ... or if you add them via the bottom edge atm [12:48] t1mp: just trying to understand what the components in https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Styles/ do...it came up as a question by another community developer and I realised that I knew very little about it as well [12:49] nik90, we don't have any empty state/location detection atm [12:49] ahayzen: hmm strange..I am going to try to clear my old weather database and then try again [12:49] ah [12:49] nik90, you'll need to clear you new weather or flip the migrated flag as well... as it only does a one time import [12:49] zsombi: ^that's more a style-related question than a header one [12:50] zsombi: I think we don't have a complete story for that yet [12:50] ahayzen: ah [12:50] nik90: t1mp: ok, I remembered right then... just did not wanted to bite in :) [12:50] zsombi: lol [12:51] t1mp: nik90: so afair we were discussing to add a style property to Page.head at some point [12:51] ahayzen: I was working on a branch when I noticed the issue [12:51] nik90, yeah there should probably be a work item for empty state and/or location detection [12:51] zsombi: ah ok [12:51] zsombi: I think the problem is more general. We have Ubuntu.Components.Styles, but it is not clear what developers can do with the styles that we expose there [12:52] tbh, I don't know the answer to that also [12:52] t1mp: afair that is an API module, not more [12:52] t1mp: we agreed on that long ago [12:53] zsombi: yes, we had quite some discussions about it but I have problems fetching those from my memory [12:53] t1mp: LOL [12:55] hehe [12:56] looks like I hit upon on the old style API documentation issue ;) [12:56] t1mp: nik90: I hate that the d-u-c docs look completely different than what we generate from UITK, more, there is some valuable information lost, like this sentence from "Style API: The Style API defines the interface components use to style the visuals. Themes must make sure that these interfaces are all implemented." [12:57] zsombi: +100000...the UITK generated docs in qtC looks awesome [12:57] t1mp: nik90: so the story is there, but the online doc looses them :/ [13:00] zsombi: perhaps not now but sometime later, I would love to see an example where a standard component like a ComboButton is styled differently and used in a sample app. It would bring together a variety of stuff like Theme, StyledItem and ComboButtonStyle and provide a better understanding of the bigger picture. === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|lunch [13:01] zsombi: Currently these are explained individually but I cannot seem to wrap my mind around those. [13:01] Perhaps I must try it out myself and see If I could get that working [13:01] nik90: ther will be a tutorial made once we have the sub-theming done [13:02] ack. [13:03] ahayzen: can you pm me the twc key, I think that's what I am missing [13:03] nik90, use openweatherdata [13:04] nik90, and idk the key :P [13:04] m-b-o, ^^ ? [13:04] ahayzen: how do I switch? I removed com.ubuntu.weather to start fresh...but still I see a blank page despite having added locations [13:04] nik90, click settings then data provider [13:04] * m-b-o reads above [13:05] m-b-o, we would need the twc key to use it on the desktop right? ... i just use openweather thingy normally [13:06] ahayzen, m-b-o: hmm I get Error: Error while loading page: file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.weather/3.0.15/share/qml/ui/Settings/DataProviderPage.qml:-1 File not found when trying to open the data provider page.. [13:06] nik90, hahah uhoh [13:06] not sure...I branched lp:weather-reboot [13:06] nik90, maybe i broke something at some point [13:06] * ahayzen needs to write the AP tests next ;) [13:06] this is what I see http://imgur.com/9FP1BTk [13:07] :D [13:08] nik90, let me branch /reboot and see whats going on [13:08] nik90, it works for me? [13:08] nik90: stumbled over this yesterday too [13:09] hmmm [13:09] hmm [13:09] nik90 ahayzen: I will tomorrow try to fetch some bugs related to the data [13:09] ah you guys are running on device [13:09] I even removed com.ubuntu.weather completely [13:09] ahayzen: yes [13:09] ahayzen: yes [13:09] desktop ftw :) [13:09] i bet we're missing something in cmake [13:09] * ahayzen checks [13:09] ahayzen: pff..desktop is so ancient now :P [13:09] ahayzen too big for the pocket [13:10] nik90, like do none of the settings pages work? [13:10] ahayzen: yup [13:10] ...not that new sys76 thing... [13:10] nik90, yeah they are all in their own directory ... /app/ui/Settings [13:10] ahayzen nik90 only one of three locations was blank for me [13:10] nik90, bet it is being left out of the click [13:10] ahayzen, m-b-o: also on first load, the locations page does not show the saved locations..only after I add a new one, I see the others ones I added [13:10] m-b-o, oh yeah i noticed when adding new locations it is super super slow sometimes...but that is due to it refreshing *all* of the locations rather than adding the new one [13:11] ahayzen I guess caching is missing [13:11] m-b-o, i was thinking of reworking the way we have that global locationsList var at some point [13:11] m-b-o: hmm yes you are right! After adding the twc key, I see location in the 2nd location I added but not on the first one [13:11] m-b-o, yeah thats why i did those two refreshData() with a FIXME next to them [13:12] I will try to get caching done too tomorrow [13:12] damn this looks beautiful [13:12] ...so why is /app/ui/Settings missing? [13:13] ahayzen: I found the issue [13:13] in CMakelist, you asked it to move it to ui/settings...while you import from ui/Settings [13:13] notice the capital "S" [13:13] the cmake works diffferent to music so i'm a little confused.... [13:13] nik90, ahahah [13:13] nik90, oh dear [13:13] I will fix it [13:13] nik90, thanks [13:14] m-b-o, i started working on the expandable delegate thing ... but hit upon the issue of different data providers giving us different data [13:14] m-b-o, eg openweather vs twc only one of them will give info for eg pressure/humidity/uv whtever [13:14] ahyzen: yes, that's right [13:15] m-b-o, so either we need to be able to pull the same data....or what i was thinking was just to show the data that is available for that provider and hide the rest? [13:15] m-b-o, what do you think? [13:15] m-b-o, ahayzen: Btw great job..I cant stop staring at it. [13:15] ahayzen: try to do a differentiation and show what you got from the specific provider [13:15] nik90: thanks :) [13:15] m-b-o, cool will do :) [13:15] do you guys still looks at design docs at https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tXcyMBvJAYvwFvUAmTTYzmBP2NFQgbG_Gy8e2gv91kU/edit ? [13:15] nik90, yeah its pretty swish now :) [13:16] nik90, yeah still the same set of design docs [13:16] ahayzen: ok. I want to bring some consistency of the locations page (like using section headers) and settings page option w.r.t clock app [13:17] just bitesize stuff for now [13:17] cool :) [13:17] nik90, i was just trying to get it all functional :) [13:17] nik90, but we have multiselect/swipe delete and reordering \o/ [13:18] ahayzen: yeah yeah...you have done all the hard work..I am just polishingn it :P [13:18] ahayzen: yeah i noticed! [13:18] * ahayzen hijacked music-app-refactor's code [13:18] hehe..using your own code is not hijacking in my book :) [13:19] hehe [13:19] * nik90 gets to work [13:20] nik90, note the ordering of the locations page is the order they are in the app.... or are you meaning the add location page to put the section headers on? [13:20] ahayzen: I meant the add location page [13:20] cool :) [13:20] similar to clock [13:20] :) [13:22] popey, I'll take a look later. I've an appointment in 40 minutes, then I'll work on it. Mayve disabling bottom edge if nr favourite calc + 0? [13:22] * = 0 [13:22] rpadovani: I prefer to have text there as per the bug [13:22] rpadovani: because the text tells you what to do [13:22] rpadovani: also, it's more the UI for adding a favorite is clumsy. [13:23] ahayzen: nik90 i just grabbed weather reboot and used click-buddy and it built an amd64 click - is that expected? [13:23] * ahayzen pretends he is using a kernel with overlayfs to build things :( [13:23] popey: I will check it out [13:24] ahayzen: I'm on 3.18.0-13-generic now, seems okay [13:24] popey, did you make the jump to vivid in the end? [13:24] ya [13:24] 13:24:14 up 5 days, 8:28, 3 users, load average: 2.00, 1.35, 1.11 [13:24] .oO( I should probably reboot sometime ) [13:24] popey, i'm rocking 3.19.0-031900rc7-generic on utopic ... hasn't frozen yet :) [13:24] get you [13:24] i haven't had a freeze for a while, but I did rmmod intel_powerclamp [13:25] because it seems to pull my cpu down to 4.77Mhz IBM XT spec [13:25] popey, ok for the bottom edge, any idea for improving the add of a favourite? [13:25] u linux geeks :P [13:25] lulz [13:25] damn intel drivers lol [13:25] rpadovani: I'll have a play. [13:25] popey, ty! [13:32] swordfish90: see my awesome patch ㋛ [13:33] It's friday. Not the best day for me to be patching stuff. [13:34] popey, ahahah. That was a brilliant patch! I had to check it really carefully but I approved it! :D [13:34] :) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === rmescandon|lunch is now known as rmescandon [14:18] ahoneybun how goes it? I got my internet back.....its been months you may not remeber me. How many apps do you have in the store now? [14:19] no if I could only find Athinkpad.........or his screen name was something like that [14:22] kurt_: its usually akiva-thinkpad,,but he is not online atm [14:28] thats it [14:29] thank you couldnt rember the first part for the life of me [14:30] is anyone working on a GUI way to take a screenshot? [14:30] Ive found multiple times ive needed it not sure if there is a way to do it right now [14:31] balloons, yo yo yo - awake already? :) [14:33] balloons, I heard you like tests: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1428676/+merge/252117 [14:36] how do you run these kinds of tests? [14:36] dolbach [14:36] sorry dholebach [14:36] kurt_, the merge proposal adds a ./run-tests command [14:36] kurt_: use tab to complete people's names. dh gives dholbach [14:37] ... which will detect new test case files in the tests/ subdirectory [14:37] didnt know that worked here only thought it worked on the cli [14:39] testing may be over my head [14:41] dholbach: I have a launchpad account and akiva tried walking me through how to setup a trunk for my project but I could barely grasp that, is this merge proposal for the trunk [14:42] yes, you can see "Proposed branch:" and "Merge into:" at the top of the page [14:43] Do the test pertain to use installing your help app and trying it out? hit all the buttons try everything? [14:43] tests [14:43] no [14:44] * balloons looks :-) [14:44] it's a very very basic first step into the direction of having tests [14:44] "test_doc_files_size_not_0" is basically the only test in that MP [14:44] nice, yep I see my non-zero check :-) [14:45] it'll test if any of the base documents we use for generating html is size 0 [14:45] or not size 0 [14:47] dholbach, so I assume you got the new format for markup? I liked the definition list [14:47] yep, looks good to me - it's sufficiently easy for editors too [14:47] if anyone wants to use a markdown editor (never tried one), that wold work too [14:48] i checked how it looked on the web also; seemed fine [14:48] good work [14:49] * balloons looks at tasks [15:27] balloons, and https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1428678/+merge/252130 based on the former :) === jhodapp_ is now known as jhodapp [16:19] dholbach, looking, sorry otp [16:20] balloons, cool, thanks === jfunk is now known as jfunk-lunch [18:12] popey, sorry for the late [18:12] https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/favouritesScreenBlank/+merge/252154 [18:12] tomorrow I'll try to address others bugs [18:12] ahayzen, great interview :-) [18:13] rpadovani, haha thanks :) [18:13] rpadovani: you proposed it against the wrong branch [18:13] rpadovani, is it over the social mediums now? [18:13] ahayzen: wait wat interview? [18:13] nik90, just fixed, ty mate [18:13] ahayzen, I see it on Youtube [18:14] ah [18:14] nik90, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iSgIFD4UvI&feature=youtu.be [18:14] nik90, I used your UCS \o/ but I'll propose a patch for empty state [18:14] rpadovani: yeah the Mp I asked you to review yesterday needs to patched to UCS as well [18:14] since it concerns the empty state [18:15] Show then beers all night long \o/ see you tomorrow [18:15] nik90, I'll ping you about it then in next days :-) [18:15] beer \o/ [18:16] rpadovani: cool, have a grt weekend [18:16] rpadovani: Thanks! [18:17] beer is a good idea [18:45] mhall119: how does the whole automatic testing work for click packages? [18:45] is there some sort of coverage testing that goes with that? === jfunk-lu_ is now known as jfunk [22:12] ohhhh framework 15.04 just showed up:) [22:12] might be from my beta 1 desktop lol [22:34] hi all