[06:05] <pitti> wxl: correct, we need upstart-bin for the user session, that stays on upstart
[06:05] <pitti> wxl: so your upstart process isn't pid 1, but one for your user session
[13:55] <elopio> pitti: I would like the reboot target functionality you described. I tested it on my branch and it works nicely.
[13:55] <elopio> but I have no idea how to make a pull request on alioth.
[13:56] <elopio> pitti: oh, I've just read you email. Get some good rest! I'll talk to you on monday.
[15:11] <elopio> brendand: jfunk: Here is a story that I think is for us: remove the unnecessary dependencies from autopilot packages. Currently we are installing py2 and qt4.
[15:11] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1429163
[15:11] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1429158
[15:11] <elopio> he ran just in time.
[15:16] <elopio> jfunk: did you get my ping?
[15:28] <jfunk> elopio: no
[15:29] <elopio> jfunk: Here is a story that I think is for us: remove the unnecessary dependencies from autopilot packages. Currently we are installing py2 and qt4.
[15:29] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1429163
[15:29] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1429158
[15:29] <elopio> They make our tests slower, and it's harder to get a successful installation in a read-only phone with so many deps.
[15:29] <jfunk> elopio: thx
[15:29] <jfunk> will add it to the project team baklog
[15:30] <elopio> thanks.
[15:46] <brendand> elopio, you already submitted branches though - is that the end of it? or is it still worth a story?
[15:47] <elopio> brendand: I only submitted the unity8 branches that I prepared last friday. The toolkit changes are more than what I can do in 15 minutes, and touching all the other branches is a long process.
[15:48] <elopio> so we have it fixed for unity8, still missing work in the rest.
[15:49] <brendand> elopio, ah right it needs to be fixed in multiple packages. i thought it was just an autopilot thing
[15:56] <elopio> ping jibel, still around? the sanity test for adding a contact to the address book only uses the address book and doesn't require any phone hardware. Makes me wonder if it shouldn't be executed only as part of the address book suite.
[16:20] <elopio> jfunk: brendand: one more: https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1420949
[16:20] <elopio> this one is important because on the sanity suite we are printing too much information.
[16:20] <elopio> the useful logs are hidden by too many finger move entries.
[16:22] <brendand> elopio, i think the right approach there is to turn the finger move into an .info message
[16:23] <elopio> brendand: the idea is not to print the finger move. Moving it to info will still print it.
[16:24] <brendand> elopio, info is the highest log level no?
[16:24] <elopio> no, but it's higher than debug.
[16:24] <elopio> we need to either downgrade the finger-like messages, or upgrade our default logger.
[16:25] <elopio> the latter is better IMO. Also faster to implement.
[16:28] <brendand> elopio, btw the thing about the address book test is it uses the real backend
[16:28] <brendand> elopio, if they agree to include the test like that in their suite then sure it should be in there
[16:28] <brendand> elopio, but we should still import and run it in the sanity suite
[16:28] <elopio> brendand: we can have a subset of tests in the address book using the real backend.
[16:28] <brendand> or maybe not actually
[16:29] <brendand> since it will run on the dashboard
[16:29] <elopio> brendand: it will run on package updates.
[16:29] <elopio> so by the time we run the sanity, it should already have been run.
[16:30] <elopio> if we have low level tests for the real backend, and integration tests for it, we also don't need to execute any tests using the real backend.
[16:30] <elopio> it might be nice to run a few though.
[16:30] <elopio> and well, I suppose we don't have those low level tests, anywaya :)
[17:34] <wxl> anything i can do to help with touch's desperate attempt to get the milestone out?
[20:38] <jfunk> elopio: can you check the cards I added for you
[20:38] <jfunk> elopio: tell me if I missed anything
[20:38] <jfunk> or if the wording is off