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| mapp | hi all:D | 06:17 |
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| MooDoo | morning all | 08:11 |
| SuperMatt | ing | 08:11 |
| SuperMatt | *ning | 08:11 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Day of Unplugging! :-D | 09:58 |
| * bashrc remains plugged | 10:00 | |
| * davmor2 unplugs his router and blames JamesTait for his lack of internet when his boss is online :D | 10:07 | |
| * JamesTait enjoys the peace and tranquility. ;) | 10:08 | |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:15 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:29 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 10:29 |
| bigcalm | I got Ubuntu 14.04.2 installed on my new Dell XPS 8700 by disabling Secure Boot and wiping out all of the existing partitions on the HDD. | 10:29 |
| popey | \o/ | 10:30 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: 64bit should of installed with secureboot in place | 10:30 |
| bigcalm | I've installed the nvidia-current driver and rebooted. I get the lightgdm login screen and can enter my password. After that I have a moving mouse pointer, but nothing else | 10:30 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: indeed, but it didn't | 10:30 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: were you trying to boot from usb or dvd? | 10:31 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: USB. It would give me a grub screen but selecting any of the options resulted in a blank screen and nothing more. | 10:31 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: only by disabling Secure Boot could I progress any further | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: did you file a bug for that | 10:32 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: No, I wanted to get on with my life | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: 64bit should in theory just work | 10:32 |
| bigcalm | Anyway | 10:33 |
| bigcalm | I have an installed machine now | 10:33 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: how new is the gfx card it might be that you would need to enable the xteams ppa to get the right driver | 10:33 |
| bigcalm | But installing the nvidia drivers has resulted in unity not starting | 10:33 |
| bigcalm | GeForce GTX 750 Ti | 10:34 |
| davmor2 | popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xCd55oSgO4 you need to do this for your kids :D | 10:52 |
| Myrtti | difficult choices in life, I might have accidentally broken the SIM pins on hubbys old Galaxy Nexus. He might be in the market for a cheap-ish second smartphone for traveling. Firefox, Fire or Ubuntu. plah. | 10:55 |
| Myrtti | also: thank goddess for superglue | 10:55 |
| popey | hehe | 10:56 |
| Myrtti | if someone ever tells you that they're getting their first ever acrylic nails just few days before a big event and they are crafty people with hands on attitude, tell them they're doing a bad mistake | 10:58 |
| Myrtti | BAD mistake | 10:58 |
| Myrtti | massive. | 10:59 |
| foobarry | nail varnish remover is the antidote to super glue innit? | 10:59 |
| Myrtti | sure, but I don't want it to come off. | 11:00 |
| Myrtti | I had acrylic nails done two weeks ago. Last two came off yesterday and day before, after catching into my hair from the dislodged part near the cuticles. | 11:01 |
| TwistedLucidity | bigcalm: I had to put my ThinkPad into legacy mode to have a 64-bit Kubuntu install work; simply assumed it was me being stupid. | 11:02 |
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| TwistedLucidity | bigcalm: Have you gone in via a TTY and checked the logs? You might see an error that gives a clue to the issue. | 11:02 |
| Myrtti | on their way out the acrylic nails split my actual nail few fractions of a millimeter on the wrong place. the pain in the nail bed isn't fun, kids. | 11:03 |
| TwistedLucidity | bigcalm: I've only had issues similar to what describe with more bleeding-edge nvidia drivers (i.e. > v340). I assume you are running stock. | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | I've ended up with xorg-edgers ppa and installed nvidia-346. Working system now | 11:07 |
| TwistedLucidity | bigcalm: Neat. I pinned my drivers to 340 to stop things breaking. Maybe I'll chance 346, but I have a much other card (GT240). | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | I try to avoid xorg-edgers when I can. Don't always have such up to date hardware :) | 11:16 |
| bashrc | this weekend I will be mostly trying Ubuntu MATE | 11:20 |
| MooDoo | bashrc: it's not bad actually, I tried it the other day | 11:40 |
| * popey is downloading Ubuntu Mate 14.04.2 to test :) | 11:46 | |
| bigcalm | I keep 32bit UM on a USB stick on my keyring. Always handy to have. Used it to demo at the LUG and converted a distro hopper who had previously left Ubuntu because of the dislike of Unity | 11:47 |
| bigcalm | Hello from the new machine! | 11:56 |
| * bigcalm slowly transfers his work life from his personal laptop to the office workstation | 11:57 | |
| bigcalm | I didn't need to be productive today or anything | 11:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | can't you work while files are transferred in background. it's not windows were everything grinds t a halt when you transfer a teraabyte or 3 | 11:58 |
| bigcalm | No, I have to install all of the programs for my dev life | 11:58 |
| bigcalm | And set-up VMs | 11:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's still work | 12:02 |
| bigcalm | But not "billable" work | 12:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | well read http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.txt to determine how to decide what is productive :-) | 12:04 |
| TwistedLucidity | Often wondered about using Puppet (or something) to try and script all that. | 12:08 |
| TwistedLucidity | But then I need it to work on Windows as well, and promptly lost the will to live. | 12:08 |
| SuperMatt | http://imgur.com/gallery/rIomO | 13:30 |
| Myrtti | butterup butter knife arrived. | 13:32 |
| Myrtti | hm. | 13:32 |
| Azelphur | Well, this is pretty hilarious, technically speaking my own company just tried to recruit me | 13:35 |
| Azelphur | Company A owns a 30% stake in Company I work for, Company A just sent me an email trying to hire me lmao | 13:36 |
| Azelphur | tempting to write back "I already work for you, say hi to <boss> for me" | 13:36 |
| davmor2 | hey bigcalm isn't billable one of the characters from lord of the rings? | 13:42 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: yes | 14:02 |
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| davmor2 | bigcalm: Three main characters are billable feefor yourbadadmin | 14:19 |
| bigcalm | The last one is lost on me | 14:22 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: your bad admin | 14:26 |
| bigcalm | Nope, still don't get it | 14:26 |
| davmor2 | popey: today is the 33 anniversary of this amazing track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cD9cBEaNBc and I know you'll a) listen to it and b) sing along :) | 15:09 |
| daftykins | hey all | 15:12 |
| daftykins | i have a very specific challenge to provide a windows 98 laptop with floppy drive and serial port for my aircraft engineer mate | 15:12 |
| daftykins | does anyone have such an era machine kicking around gathering dust? :) | 15:12 |
| knightwise | daftykins: thats a tough one | 15:14 |
| daftykins | indeed :D | 15:15 |
| foobarry | virtualbox? | 15:16 |
| foobarry | does that pass serial port? | 15:16 |
| foobarry | daftykins: i did have one until recently, a lovely thinkpad 600e | 15:17 |
| daftykins | :O | 15:17 |
| daftykins | nah it needs to be a proper laptop, to carry onto planes | 15:18 |
| foobarry | great scren on it, still worked nice after 15 years | 15:18 |
| daftykins | foobarry: didn't take it out behind the barn and put it out of its' misery, did you? | 15:18 |
| foobarry | gave it to my friend to take to zimbabwe | 15:18 |
| foobarry | along with bunch of other laptops | 15:19 |
| daftykins | ;_; | 15:19 |
| foobarry | i'm sure ebay is chock full of them at less than 20 quid | 15:20 |
| daftykins | well i'm browsing but it's tough to find something that isn't broken or is just parts | 15:21 |
| foobarry | ask a local uni? | 15:21 |
| foobarry | probably got a room full | 15:21 |
| daftykins | hehe, i'm on an island sir | 15:21 |
| foobarry | he | 15:21 |
| foobarry | school | 15:21 |
| daftykins | mmm maybe, my ol' head of IT at a College of higher ed. might have something relevant | 15:21 |
| hazrpg | Hey all \o | 15:22 |
| foobarry | hi | 15:22 |
| shauno | o/ | 15:22 |
| foobarry | how are you | 15:22 |
| hazrpg | not too bad, how's you? | 15:22 |
| foobarry | old, but good | 15:22 |
| hazrpg | ^_^ we all get old someday | 15:24 |
| hazrpg | The most important thing is always your health :) | 15:24 |
| hazrpg | Just wondering if someone would help me diagnose why ubuntu has been freezing a lot on me recently | 15:25 |
| hazrpg | I keep blaming chrome... however I'm not sure if that's the true cause, because surely chrome tabs and extensions should just crash themselves not the whole OS | 15:26 |
| foobarry | do you have swap sapce? | 15:27 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: yeah, I'd be insane not to :P | 15:27 |
| foobarry | its overrated | 15:28 |
| foobarry | :P | 15:28 |
| foobarry | which is probably why i get hangups | 15:28 |
| foobarry | but swap space just delays the problem | 15:28 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: actually, now that you say that - htop says I have 0/0 swap o.O | 15:28 |
| foobarry | if you are using too much | 15:28 |
| foobarry | free -m | 15:28 |
| hazrpg | but I know I definitely have a swap partition (always make it!) | 15:28 |
| foobarry | sudo swapon -s | 15:29 |
| popey | daftykins: thinkpad x61 off ebay | 15:29 |
| hazrpg | sudo swapon -s returns nothing | 15:29 |
| popey | would run win98 just lovely | 15:29 |
| popey | oh, floppy is a problem | 15:29 |
| popey | usb :) | 15:29 |
| foobarry | hazrpg haz no swap | 15:29 |
| foobarry | probably why you get hangs | 15:30 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: indeed... | 15:30 |
| popey | daftykins: the hardest part is getting all the software updates after you install win98se | 15:31 |
| popey | because the windows update service is shut down i think | 15:31 |
| daftykins | popey: won't need any though | 15:31 |
| popey | even stuff like .net and other libs? | 15:32 |
| daftykins | it just needs to run this ghetto plane software to pull data over serial from an ATR aircraft :> | 15:32 |
| popey | right | 15:32 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: I'll be honest, I'm baffled, because I clearly have 6GB swap partition - just checked with gparted | 15:32 |
| daftykins | lol .NET on 98? | 15:32 |
| popey | yeah | 15:32 |
| popey | .net runtime | 15:32 |
| popey | anway, not needed | 15:32 |
| foobarry | check /etc/fstab | 15:32 |
| popey | i installed windows 3.11 on a usb stick recently :) | 15:32 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:32 |
| popey | http://i.imgur.com/9MVKdPG.jpg | 15:32 |
| popey | and gem desktop | 15:33 |
| popey | http://i.imgur.com/uFIoyDv.jpg | 15:33 |
| foobarry | sudo swapon <swap partition> | 15:33 |
| daftykins | i've got an old 12" Dell latitude LS400, but it needs a docking station to provide a serial port. and those'd likely require mains power to run wouldn't they? | 15:33 |
| daftykins | i've never owned a docking station | 15:33 |
| popey | the dock would, yes | 15:33 |
| popey | usb floppy? | 15:33 |
| daftykins | mmm that's a no-go then | 15:33 |
| popey | they're 10 a penny | 15:33 |
| foobarry | any old laptop will have dead battery | 15:33 |
| popey | yeah, unless thinkpad, in which case you can get replacements | 15:34 |
| daftykins | wouldn't there be issues having ghetto software seeing a USB floppy on windows 98 as the true floppy drive? | 15:34 |
| popey | nah, it just shows up as A: | 15:34 |
| popey | bios sees it | 15:34 |
| daftykins | i'd be a little wary of expecting that to fly, given a 98 era machine though | 15:34 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: I'll be honest, fstab has recently baffled me too of late - in the past it use to use /dev/sd* but now it uses UUID which I can never quite get my head around (I know what it is, just /dev/sd* made more sense to me) | 15:34 |
| daftykins | USB would probably be exotic enough as is :D | 15:34 |
| popey | i used to use a usb floppy on win98 | 15:35 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: fstab clearly has a line for swap though | 15:35 |
| popey | on a sony vaio | 15:35 |
| popey | which had no other option | 15:35 |
| daftykins | hazrpg: heh, but it was too susceptible to disk changes | 15:35 |
| daftykins | popey: ah, good to know | 15:35 |
| hazrpg | foobarry: # swap was on /dev/sda3 during installation, followed by the line below it for the swap part | 15:35 |
| hazrpg | daftykins: true, I know what you mean - but it still made more sense :P | 15:36 |
| daftykins | i don't see any harm in a quick 'sudo blkid' and UUID check | 15:36 |
| daftykins | not the most editable of things, granted ;D | 15:37 |
| daftykins | in fact if i were CLI only and having to change one, i'd probably end up using paper :S | 15:37 |
| hazrpg | daftykins: I didn't know that command - cheers for that :) | 15:37 |
| daftykins | ^_^ np | 15:38 |
| hazrpg | daftykins: thanks for that command btw, seems my UUID for the swap changed | 15:40 |
| daftykins | 0o | 15:40 |
| daftykins | keep an fstab backup as-is just in case | 15:41 |
| hazrpg | daftykins: indeed ;) | 15:41 |
| hazrpg | I wonder what would have caused that to change o.O | 15:44 |
| hazrpg | going to reboot to see if that new fstab works, back shortly | 15:49 |
| hazrpg | seems that sorted out the fstab :) | 15:52 |
| hazrpg | still don't understand why my system has recently been hanging up/freezing though | 15:52 |
| hazrpg | it's always something different in the /var/log/syslog | 15:53 |
| foobarry | will stop hanging now | 15:56 |
| foobarry | *maybe | 15:56 |
| daftykins | heh i've found a nice Dell C800... in Nebraska | 16:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | shipping will cost a fortune :-) | 16:53 |
| daftykins | it oddly enough comes up as £15 on ebay | 16:53 |
| daftykins | but yeah i would rather not go that far afield if possible | 16:53 |
| diddledan | C800? isn't that a rather large freight plane? | 16:54 |
| daftykins | :> | 16:54 |
| diddledan | in which case it'll deliver itself :-p | 16:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | no you load it up in the antonov 225 and they air drop it on your doorstep | 16:55 |
| daftykins | any recommendations'd be handy, this task seems quite hard | 17:00 |
| daftykins | so it's any laptop that'll run win98, with a floppy drive and serial port | 17:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | go to your nearest recycle centre and see if they have one lying around? | 17:01 |
| daftykins | ;] | 17:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | as a doorstep even :-) | 17:01 |
| diddledan | teehee: https://plus.google.com/111403714821787277067/posts/2K3BY1NMp7V | 17:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's old, i think it wants a bitcoin miner these days too :-) | 17:06 |
| diddledan | it's just reared it's head for mac users tho | 17:07 |
| diddledan | from yesterday (us time) http://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-extends-its-adware-bundling-to-include-java-for-macs/ | 17:07 |
| diddledan | Myrtti, I'm intrigued by your bouquet requiring charging | 17:09 |
| Myrtti | I'll probably participate in Adafruit show and tell session and blog about it later ;-) | 17:10 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 17:10 |
| Myrtti | I've got one request for a write-up already from a FinnIsh maker fanzine | 17:14 |
| Myrtti | stupid predictive text | 17:14 |
| diddledan | ooh, nice one! | 17:14 |
| Azelphur | Anyone electronicsy know where I might pick up one of these micro switches? https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=096a2e5364b88925ab763868ec90d62e | 17:15 |
| shauno | the blue bit? | 17:22 |
| Azelphur | shauno: nah, bluish green, the one with 3S1802A on the side | 17:22 |
| shauno | probably something like http://uk.farnell.com/omron-electronic-components/ss-01/microswitch-spdt-pin-30vdc-0-1a/dp/1829514 | 17:23 |
| shauno | but you'll want to look around 'subminature pin-plunger' to find the best match | 17:23 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: maplins | 17:23 |
| shauno | (eg, how many connections come out the bottom, and what lines up, and blah blah. make sure it fits) | 17:23 |
| Azelphur | shauno: tbh I have no clue of what that is, I might need a little education :) | 17:24 |
| ujjain | does theather monkey have a green seat map or only reviews? | 17:29 |
| Azelphur | shauno: certainly looks like the right part, just as you say may not fit | 17:30 |
| diddledan | googley play-doh is giving away fast and furious for free | 17:35 |
| diddledan | https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Fast_and_Furious | 17:35 |
| shauno | Azelphur, that's the problem .. there's characteristics you can't see from there. like whether it has big flat legs or straight pins, or .. | 17:35 |
| Azelphur | shauno: oh wow, so I did a google search and I found someone replacing the middle button (not left as I want to do) but boatloads of photos, http://rellinger.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/replacing-middle-button-on-logitech.html | 17:37 |
| Azelphur | I might do the middle too tbh with that info, my middle is a bit funky. | 17:38 |
| Azelphur | shauno: last photo clearly shows the underside of the board too though | 17:39 |
| daftykins | i have a couple of those M570s for the boss | 17:39 |
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| IhaveScreenArtif | Judging from me user name you may have figured out i have screen artifacts after a series of updates. | 19:07 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | i need help | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | what kind of artifacts? | 19:08 |
| ali1234 | what graphics card and what did you update to/from? | 19:08 |
| daftykins | either that or you have screen art | 19:09 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | i dont know what i updated from. | 19:09 |
| diddledan | daftykins, only conditional art | 19:09 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | and i dont know what graphics card i have | 19:11 |
| daftykins | "lspci | pastebinit" to share with the group, IhaveScreenArtif | 19:11 |
| daftykins | you may have to install pastebinit first | 19:11 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | i need to install it | 19:12 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10552136/ | 19:14 |
| daftykins | hmm intel Q35 | 19:14 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | really old? | 19:15 |
| diddledan | intel should be well-supported, no? | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | diddledan: it's well supported if you have a headless server | 19:15 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:15 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | it seems like for now the so called screen artifacts cant be seen | 19:49 |
| diddledan | take a screen shot :-p | 19:50 |
| diddledan | I did that to show someone the huge moth that had landed on my monitor | 19:50 |
| * bashrc is running on Ubuntu MATE | 19:59 | |
| popey | \o/ | 20:01 |
| bashrc | it's like going back in time to 10.10 | 20:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | arrrrrrrrr | 20:02 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | has anyone decided what party your going to vote in the general elections? | 20:03 |
| bashrc | eh, well, maybe | 20:03 |
| daftykins | not my government :D | 20:03 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | im sure your pro europe | 20:04 |
| popey | !politics | 20:04 |
| lubotu3 | Please take political discussion to ##politics-uk. Thank you! | 20:04 |
| popey | :) | 20:04 |
| bashrc | I'm a people person | 20:04 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | who on earth will have Tesco broadband | 20:06 |
| Myrtti | nobody nowadays, it's all TalkTalk | 20:07 |
| IhaveScreenArtif | no, its BT | 20:07 |
| Myrtti | http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/utilities/2015/01/talktalk-to-take-over-tesco-broadband-and-home-phone-customers | 20:07 |
| * zmoylan-pi has tesco mobile in ireland and hopes the 3 and o2 merger doesn't muck things up too much. i saw a price change sms in last week | 20:15 | |
| zmoylan-pi | tesco mobile is run as a mvpn on o2's network | 20:15 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSDPOvtPi5s | 20:20 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, mvpn? | 20:21 |
| * zmoylan-pi loans them my bow and arrows to do real damage to their server fort :-) | 20:21 | |
| zmoylan-pi | a mobile network that is virtual in that it has no masts of its own but rents space on another companies. | 20:22 |
| daftykins | it's MVNO i think? mobile virtual network operator | 20:22 |
| diddledan | not one of these then: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk828/tech_digest09186a00801a64a3.html | 20:22 |
| diddledan | this might be a more readable version: http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=32100&seqNum=3 | 20:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | my bad mvno. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator | 20:23 |
| daftykins | nothing like a good wiki salt | 20:33 |
| daftykins | ;) | 20:33 |
| diddledan | wikiwikiwiki oi oi oi | 20:42 |
| Myrtti | wakawaka | 20:47 |
| diddledan | pacman? | 20:47 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMnb4-t8vo <-- first couple of minutes where he talks about "hate driven development" .. funny | 21:47 |
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