| gamerchick02 | hexchat on mac!! | 01:25 |
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| gamerchick02 | my fave irc program | 01:25 |
| cmaloney | Evening | 01:27 |
| gamerchick02 | howdy cmaloney! | 01:29 |
| gamerchick02 | i've not set up the dell yet. | 01:33 |
| gamerchick02 | i want to but i didn't want to bring it up to Saginaw along with my other stuff. | 01:34 |
| cmaloney | bah | 03:03 |
| rick_h_ | humbug | 03:05 |
| _stink_ | ohhhh look what i just found | 03:12 |
| _stink_ | http://www.pydanny.com/cookie-project-templates-made-easy.html#comment-1004658971 | 03:12 |
| _stink_ | rick_h_: so what's the answer for modern-package-template in python3? | 03:12 |
| jrwren | same as py2 | 03:15 |
| jrwren | maybe port the template to python3 if needed, but it likely isn't needed. python3 isn't THAT different. | 03:15 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, not sure what, if anything is different for modern package templte for Py3 | 03:20 |
| cmaloney | I've been packaging up everything I can for work under MPT | 03:20 |
| _stink_ | hmm - when i pip install modern-package-tempate inside a virtualenv with python3, PasteScript appears broken | 03:51 |
| _stink_ | and if i search around, it looks like paste doesn't support python3. | 03:51 |
| _stink_ | am i wrong? | 03:51 |
| jrwren | sounds familiar for some reason. | 03:56 |
| _stink_ | trying cookiecutter | 04:23 |
| === jorge_ is now known as jcastro | ||
| cmaloney | Good morning | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | ugh wheeee | 14:11 |
| mrgoodcat | any emacs people here? | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: That good eh? | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | isn't gamerchick? | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Not sure. I seem to remember devinheitmueller was but I might be making stuff up | 14:12 |
| mrgoodcat | i was gonna try to learn emacs basics, but the tutorial is gonna break my fingers | 14:13 |
| _stink_ | i was but then my fingers fell off | 14:13 |
| mrgoodcat | so many ctrl+alt | 14:13 |
| _stink_ | i did use it in grad school | 14:13 |
| mrgoodcat | i was gonna ask how emacs people deal with that | 14:13 |
| cmaloney | yeah, that and I didn't like how you basicall had to learn lisp to configure it | 14:13 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I wanted to be a true geek and even got two emacs books | 14:13 |
| _stink_ | i pretty much only remember ctrl-x ctrl-s | 14:13 |
| rick_h_ | and gave up and decided to be the best vim user I could be | 14:13 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: it started because i'm learning lisp | 14:13 |
| mrgoodcat | so thats not a problem | 14:13 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: It's a great test-bed for lisp | 14:13 |
| mrgoodcat | that's what i heard | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | as an editor it makes me cry. | 14:14 |
| mrgoodcat | heh | 14:14 |
| _stink_ | rick_h_: it looks like modern-package-template doesn't work in python3... is this true? if so, do you have a recommendatio nfor a similar thing in python3? | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | _stink_: Just fix paster. :) | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | That should be an afternoon. ;) | 14:15 |
| jrwren | surely you remember ctrl-e and ctrl-a too? | 14:15 |
| SneakyPhil | rick_h_: haaha | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | _stink_: cookiecutter | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | _stink_: what we've moved to | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: nope, by moving to vim in zsh I never have to use emacs style controls | 14:15 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: bash has vi-style keybindings | 14:16 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: HARDCORE! :) | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | I finally made the plunge | 14:16 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: yes. I used them for all of 10min once. | 14:16 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: even use 'jj' to 'esc' in zsh and vim <3 | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I was the same way. Persevere. :) | 14:16 |
| _stink_ | cmaloney: yeah, geez, no thanks | 14:16 |
| devinheitmueller | cmaloney: hey. | 14:16 |
| rick_h_ | zsh has much better vim mode imo | 14:16 |
| _stink_ | rick_h_: ok great, that's what i settled on last night. thanks! | 14:16 |
| rick_h_ | _stink_: <3 | 14:17 |
| SneakyPhil | rick_h_: do you use zsh locally and the default shell on your boxes? | 14:17 |
| devinheitmueller | Yeah, I’m an emacs user, but despite having used it for almost 20 years I still only use a handful of commands. | 14:17 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: i don't know if it is perseverence if it is glorious at the same time. | 14:17 |
| cmaloney | devinheitmueller: I think that's true of most. | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | SneakyPhil: yea, I use zsh on all my boxes | 14:17 |
| _stink_ | jrwren: oh yeah i do remember those... but i think of them as bashy, not emacsy :P | 14:17 |
| _stink_ | this is surely heresy. | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | the only place it's not the default is on a shared server with the team and I'm |--| close to changing it | 14:17 |
| jrwren | _stink_: yeah, they are emacs. emacs is so powerful it bleeds into bash and macosx input boxes :p | 14:18 |
| devinheitmueller | At least on bash you can reconfigure the command line hotkeys to use vi conventions rather than the default of emacs. | 14:18 |
| devinheitmueller | That said, most people know stuff like ctrl-a and ctrl-e because of bash. | 14:18 |
| cmaloney | That's how I learned it | 14:21 |
| devinheitmueller | Thinking of scripting, anybody know any junior engineers looking to do some contract work? | 14:24 |
| devinheitmueller | I want to setup an automation rig for test LinuxTV drivers (using codespeed), so I need somebody to setup a web server, install codespeed and do some scripting to write test cases. | 14:25 |
| devinheitmueller | I’m also looking at Tapper (http://tapper.github.io/Tapper/), which has the ability to output to codespeed. Mainly I’m looking to do a combination to compliance and performance tests on a regular interval across multiple devices and have a reasonable web UI for analyzing the results. | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | Sounds interesting | 14:29 |
| devinheitmueller | None of it is rocket science. It’s the sort of thing in the past I’ve hired a kid straight of college to do (assuming he knows UNIX scripting). That said, it just isn’t cost effective to do it myself. | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | yeah, it's a lot of grunt-work | 14:30 |
| devinheitmueller | Oh, here’s the codespeed project URL in case anybody is interested: https://github.com/tobami/codespeed | 14:30 |
| devinheitmueller | Neat little project, used by a number of other projects for benchmarking: “Known to be used by PyPy, Twisted, RubySpec and many more." | 14:30 |
| cmaloney | bookmarked | 14:30 |
| devinheitmueller | It’s got links to the sites setup by those projects, if you want to get a feel for the UI. | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: I _almost_ got jsivak using Bookie | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: lol | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | I swearh his bookmarking / scrapbooking configuration just screams Bookie | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: heh, I don't know. he might just crush things | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | I'm sure half of his bookmarks are 404 anyway | 14:37 |
| * rick_h_ shakes fist at UPS! "Delay in delivery due to weather or natural disaster" | 14:38 | |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: What are they ransoming? | 14:39 |
| rick_h_ | I prime overnight'd a camera because I wanted to take it on our zoo trip this weekend | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | You know that never works out | 14:39 |
| jrwren | oooh... pypy <3 | 14:39 |
| brousch | Another camera?! | 14:39 |
| rick_h_ | technically on wed, but it was late so turned into thurs ship for friday | 14:39 |
| jrwren | pypy is the greatest thing that no one talks about. | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yes, it's been a year since my last one :) | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: +1 | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: though they don't do a ton of talking to be honest expect on their 'failures' as they work on things like numpy | 14:40 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yup. and it is a hump to get to for sure. certain c modules have to be worked around, usually the DB provider you are using if you are doing web stuff. | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | yep | 14:41 |
| jrwren | but once you get over that hump, on man, python isn't slow. | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | though most of the db drives have some sort of pure python drive these days, mostly for async love but side effect is it helps pypy | 14:42 |
| jrwren | It is so good that you'd never use another GC langauge for speed reasons. its as fast or faster than java, go, .net, D, rust. pypy is awesome. | 14:42 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: what camera? | 14:42 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: yup. we found some psycopg2 pure python compat port which worked well. | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: cool yea | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: oly em5 mk2 | 14:42 |
| mrgoodcat | nice | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | what are you using these days? | 14:43 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: pany gx7 | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | since obviously your olympus is delayed | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | i've never had a panasonic | 14:44 |
| rick_h_ | it's nice and done me well the last year | 14:44 |
| mrgoodcat | really enjoying my sony | 14:44 |
| rick_h_ | but the new oly has me sold on the in body stabilization and I find I like oly lenses a lot since they're smaller since they don't need OIS in them | 14:44 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I like the idea of the sony, but it's a chunk larger and my big thing is a travel camera for work that I can take on planes/trips | 14:44 |
| rick_h_ | and the m4/3 lenses are so many more and nice | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | oh yea its not really a travel cam | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | i even have a second grip on it | 14:45 |
| rick_h_ | assuming you mean like a a7 aor such | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | so its really big | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | a700 | 14:45 |
| rick_h_ | ah | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | i have an a57 for travel | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | which is a bit smaller | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | and does HD video | 14:45 |
| rick_h_ | I almost went to the new a7 2 | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | i almost had money | 14:45 |
| rick_h_ | with its IBIS | 14:45 |
| gamerchick02 | i didn't know you guys were into photography. cool. | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | for that | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm a photography wannabe mostly | 14:46 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/ scroll and scrolls wheeee | 14:46 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it's a nice hobby I can do while I work | 14:46 |
| mrgoodcat | my stuff isn't online | 14:46 |
| mrgoodcat | not publicly anyways | 14:46 |
| rick_h_ | ah, I put most of my stuff up from trips/etc | 14:46 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm shy about artwork | 14:46 |
| rick_h_ | especially since most of my stuff is more travel/street stuff | 14:47 |
| rick_h_ | even my studio practice stuff so you can stare at my bald head 50+ times https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/sets/72157649833725800/ | 14:47 |
| gamerchick02 | rick_h_, nice pictures. really | 14:47 |
| rick_h_ | as I practice with flash, umbrella, and such | 14:47 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't have studio equipment | 14:48 |
| mrgoodcat | haven't done any studio work since high school | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | I just picked up some flash and a portable softbox and such as my christmas gift this year | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | and need to play with it some more, only done a couple of practice sessions with it | 14:49 |
| mrgoodcat | cool | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | I still need to make a plugin for a CI that replaces the thunderstorm clouds with angry rick_h_ | 14:49 |
| gamerchick02 | oooo | 14:49 |
| mrgoodcat | i have a lightbox but its a bit small to put a person in | 14:49 |
| mrgoodcat | heh | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/16065134079/in/set-72157649833725800 | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | "Your test have failed and do not pass PEP8. Correct yourself." | 14:49 |
| gamerchick02 | perfect caption | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/16063747140/in/set-72157649833725800 | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | "You have committed Java to the repo." | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:50 |
| gamerchick02 | LOL | 14:50 |
| * gamerchick02 falls off chair | 14:50 | |
| cmaloney | https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/15628883914/in/set-72157649833725800 | 14:51 |
| cmaloney | "I'm about to remove your commit bit" | 14:51 |
| gamerchick02 | OT, rick_h_ i think i'm going to name the new computer humboldt. after the Humboldt penguin. not the squid. | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | gamerchick02: nice | 14:52 |
| gamerchick02 | i have a penguin theme for all my computers (desktop is Emperor, macbook is rockhopper, and my wireless is named Igloo) | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | gamerchick02: Very cool | 14:53 |
| * gamerchick02 is such a huge nerd | 14:53 | |
| cmaloney | Mine are named after Red Drawf characters | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | penguins are not thata nerdy. | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | apparently I'm now channeling Mario | 14:54 |
| gamerchick02 | "itsa Me, Mario!" | 14:54 |
| gamerchick02 | lol | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | Worst stereotype in videogames ever. | 14:55 |
| gamerchick02 | penguins are pretty awesome. did you know that there were HUGE prehistoric penguins? | 14:55 |
| gamerchick02 | i agree though, about the stereotype | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | That's because Penguins are badass | 14:55 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: I think rick would be even more scary than that if there were java in the repo. I know I would | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Working with the material I have. | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Pretty sure there would be a paddling. | 14:56 |
| gamerchick02 | uhm. | 14:56 |
| gamerchick02 | note to self, do not commit Java to the repo. (not that i ever would) | 14:57 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: team was none to happy when I tried to sneak in 20 lines of perl. :) | 14:57 |
| gamerchick02 | committing Java sounds like "committing seppuku" or something | 14:57 |
| gamerchick02 | "but you don't like my perls of wisdom" *badum tiss* | 14:58 |
| * gamerchick02 bows. i'll be here all day | 14:58 | |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I don't blame them. With 20 lines of Perl you could rewrite the human genome | 14:59 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: mankind is not ready for that kind of awesome responsibility. | 15:00 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: funny you mention it. I think I used perl to do some bioinformatics on part of the human genome 10+yrs ago. | 15:02 |
| cmaloney | See? | 15:02 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Penguins don't live in igloos | 15:34 |
| SneakyPhil | lol | 15:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Sorry. Lag. | 15:36 |
| gamerchick02 | no they don't. but i picked my wireless name and then was like "whoops". so i stuck with it. should be iceberg | 18:17 |
| gamerchick02 | and hi hi ColonelPanic001 long time no see | 18:17 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hi | 18:18 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm off work today. yay! | 18:19 |
| ColonelPanic001 | the best way to start a day | 18:19 |
| gamerchick02 | :) yes. that and coffee. | 18:19 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm going to a concert tonight and theoretically i could have worked but... i didn't want to. hah | 18:20 |
| ColonelPanic001 | that's all the reason that's needed | 18:21 |
| gamerchick02 | :-D | 18:21 |
| cmaloney | http://metalinjection.fm | 20:56 |
| cmaloney | ^^ Clothe your ears in metal. :) | 20:56 |
| mrgoodcat | has anybody set up filevault on a fresh MBP recently? | 22:28 |
| greg-g | ok, so, every time I think "I should just whip up a quick python script to do this, there's already a library for that services API that looks nice." I end up not doing it because I remember bad experiences with venvs, system-installed versus user vs local libraries and having a hard time getting a program to run on a different machine due to mismatching versions | 23:57 |
| greg-g | what should I follow to Do It Right(TM)? | 23:57 |
| greg-g | opinionated opinions highly welcome | 23:57 |
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