[01:25] hexchat on mac!! [01:25] my fave irc program [01:27] Evening [01:29] howdy cmaloney! [01:33] i've not set up the dell yet. [01:34] i want to but i didn't want to bring it up to Saginaw along with my other stuff. [03:03] bah [03:05] humbug [03:12] <_stink_> ohhhh look what i just found [03:12] <_stink_> http://www.pydanny.com/cookie-project-templates-made-easy.html#comment-1004658971 [03:12] <_stink_> rick_h_: so what's the answer for modern-package-template in python3? [03:15] same as py2 [03:15] maybe port the template to python3 if needed, but it likely isn't needed. python3 isn't THAT different. [03:20] Yeah, not sure what, if anything is different for modern package templte for Py3 [03:20] I've been packaging up everything I can for work under MPT [03:51] <_stink_> hmm - when i pip install modern-package-tempate inside a virtualenv with python3, PasteScript appears broken [03:51] <_stink_> and if i search around, it looks like paste doesn't support python3. [03:51] <_stink_> am i wrong? [03:56] sounds familiar for some reason. [04:23] <_stink_> trying cookiecutter === jorge_ is now known as jcastro [14:10] Good morning [14:11] ugh wheeee [14:12] any emacs people here? [14:12] rick_h_: That good eh? [14:12] isn't gamerchick? [14:12] mrgoodcat: Not sure. I seem to remember devinheitmueller was but I might be making stuff up [14:13] i was gonna try to learn emacs basics, but the tutorial is gonna break my fingers [14:13] <_stink_> i was but then my fingers fell off [14:13] so many ctrl+alt [14:13] <_stink_> i did use it in grad school [14:13] i was gonna ask how emacs people deal with that [14:13] yeah, that and I didn't like how you basicall had to learn lisp to configure it [14:13] yea, I wanted to be a true geek and even got two emacs books [14:13] <_stink_> i pretty much only remember ctrl-x ctrl-s [14:13] and gave up and decided to be the best vim user I could be [14:13] cmaloney: it started because i'm learning lisp [14:13] so thats not a problem [14:13] mrgoodcat: It's a great test-bed for lisp [14:14] that's what i heard [14:14] as an editor it makes me cry. [14:14] heh [14:14] <_stink_> rick_h_: it looks like modern-package-template doesn't work in python3... is this true? if so, do you have a recommendatio nfor a similar thing in python3? [14:14] _stink_: Just fix paster. :) [14:15] That should be an afternoon. ;) [14:15] surely you remember ctrl-e and ctrl-a too? [14:15] rick_h_: haaha [14:15] _stink_: cookiecutter [14:15] _stink_: what we've moved to [14:15] jrwren: nope, by moving to vim in zsh I never have to use emacs style controls [14:16] jrwren: bash has vi-style keybindings [14:16] rick_h_: HARDCORE! :) [14:16] I finally made the plunge [14:16] cmaloney: yes. I used them for all of 10min once. [14:16] jrwren: even use 'jj' to 'esc' in zsh and vim <3 [14:16] jrwren: I was the same way. Persevere. :) [14:16] <_stink_> cmaloney: yeah, geez, no thanks [14:16] cmaloney: hey. [14:16] zsh has much better vim mode imo [14:16] <_stink_> rick_h_: ok great, that's what i settled on last night. thanks! [14:17] _stink_: <3 [14:17] rick_h_: do you use zsh locally and the default shell on your boxes? [14:17] Yeah, I’m an emacs user, but despite having used it for almost 20 years I still only use a handful of commands. [14:17] cmaloney: i don't know if it is perseverence if it is glorious at the same time. [14:17] devinheitmueller: I think that's true of most. [14:17] SneakyPhil: yea, I use zsh on all my boxes [14:17] <_stink_> jrwren: oh yeah i do remember those... but i think of them as bashy, not emacsy :P [14:17] <_stink_> this is surely heresy. [14:17] the only place it's not the default is on a shared server with the team and I'm |--| close to changing it [14:18] _stink_: yeah, they are emacs. emacs is so powerful it bleeds into bash and macosx input boxes :p [14:18] At least on bash you can reconfigure the command line hotkeys to use vi conventions rather than the default of emacs. [14:18] That said, most people know stuff like ctrl-a and ctrl-e because of bash. [14:21] That's how I learned it [14:24] Thinking of scripting, anybody know any junior engineers looking to do some contract work? [14:25] I want to setup an automation rig for test LinuxTV drivers (using codespeed), so I need somebody to setup a web server, install codespeed and do some scripting to write test cases. [14:27] I’m also looking at Tapper (http://tapper.github.io/Tapper/), which has the ability to output to codespeed. Mainly I’m looking to do a combination to compliance and performance tests on a regular interval across multiple devices and have a reasonable web UI for analyzing the results. [14:29] Sounds interesting [14:29] None of it is rocket science. It’s the sort of thing in the past I’ve hired a kid straight of college to do (assuming he knows UNIX scripting). That said, it just isn’t cost effective to do it myself. [14:30] yeah, it's a lot of grunt-work [14:30] Oh, here’s the codespeed project URL in case anybody is interested: https://github.com/tobami/codespeed [14:30] Neat little project, used by a number of other projects for benchmarking: “Known to be used by PyPy, Twisted, RubySpec and many more." [14:30] bookmarked [14:31] It’s got links to the sites setup by those projects, if you want to get a feel for the UI. [14:31] rick_h_: I _almost_ got jsivak using Bookie [14:31] cmaloney: lol [14:31] I swearh his bookmarking / scrapbooking configuration just screams Bookie [14:36] cmaloney: heh, I don't know. he might just crush things [14:37] I'm sure half of his bookmarks are 404 anyway [14:38] * rick_h_ shakes fist at UPS! "Delay in delivery due to weather or natural disaster" [14:39] rick_h_: What are they ransoming? [14:39] I prime overnight'd a camera because I wanted to take it on our zoo trip this weekend [14:39] You know that never works out [14:39] oooh... pypy <3 [14:39] Another camera?! [14:39] technically on wed, but it was late so turned into thurs ship for friday [14:40] pypy is the greatest thing that no one talks about. [14:40] brousch: yes, it's been a year since my last one :) [14:40] jrwren: +1 [14:40] jrwren: though they don't do a ton of talking to be honest expect on their 'failures' as they work on things like numpy [14:41] rick_h_: yup. and it is a hump to get to for sure. certain c modules have to be worked around, usually the DB provider you are using if you are doing web stuff. [14:41] yep [14:41] but once you get over that hump, on man, python isn't slow. [14:42] though most of the db drives have some sort of pure python drive these days, mostly for async love but side effect is it helps pypy [14:42] It is so good that you'd never use another GC langauge for speed reasons. its as fast or faster than java, go, .net, D, rust. pypy is awesome. [14:42] rick_h_: what camera? [14:42] rick_h_: yup. we found some psycopg2 pure python compat port which worked well. [14:42] jrwren: cool yea [14:42] mrgoodcat: oly em5 mk2 [14:43] nice [14:43] what are you using these days? [14:43] mrgoodcat: pany gx7 [14:43] since obviously your olympus is delayed [14:44] i've never had a panasonic [14:44] it's nice and done me well the last year [14:44] really enjoying my sony [14:44] but the new oly has me sold on the in body stabilization and I find I like oly lenses a lot since they're smaller since they don't need OIS in them [14:44] yea, I like the idea of the sony, but it's a chunk larger and my big thing is a travel camera for work that I can take on planes/trips [14:45] and the m4/3 lenses are so many more and nice [14:45] oh yea its not really a travel cam [14:45] i even have a second grip on it [14:45] assuming you mean like a a7 aor such [14:45] so its really big [14:45] a700 [14:45] ah [14:45] i have an a57 for travel [14:45] which is a bit smaller [14:45] and does HD video [14:45] I almost went to the new a7 2 [14:45] i almost had money [14:45] with its IBIS [14:45] i didn't know you guys were into photography. cool. [14:45] for that [14:46] i'm a photography wannabe mostly [14:46] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/ scroll and scrolls wheeee [14:46] yea, it's a nice hobby I can do while I work [14:46] my stuff isn't online [14:46] not publicly anyways [14:46] ah, I put most of my stuff up from trips/etc [14:46] i'm shy about artwork [14:47] especially since most of my stuff is more travel/street stuff [14:47] even my studio practice stuff so you can stare at my bald head 50+ times https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/sets/72157649833725800/ [14:47] rick_h_, nice pictures. really [14:47] as I practice with flash, umbrella, and such [14:48] i don't have studio equipment [14:48] haven't done any studio work since high school [14:48] I just picked up some flash and a portable softbox and such as my christmas gift this year [14:49] and need to play with it some more, only done a couple of practice sessions with it [14:49] cool [14:49] I still need to make a plugin for a CI that replaces the thunderstorm clouds with angry rick_h_ [14:49] oooo [14:49] i have a lightbox but its a bit small to put a person in [14:49] heh [14:49] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/16065134079/in/set-72157649833725800 [14:49] "Your test have failed and do not pass PEP8. Correct yourself." [14:50] perfect caption [14:50] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/16063747140/in/set-72157649833725800 [14:50] "You have committed Java to the repo." [14:50] lol [14:50] LOL [14:50] * gamerchick02 falls off chair [14:51] https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/15628883914/in/set-72157649833725800 [14:51] "I'm about to remove your commit bit" [14:51] OT, rick_h_ i think i'm going to name the new computer humboldt. after the Humboldt penguin. not the squid. [14:52] gamerchick02: nice [14:52] i have a penguin theme for all my computers (desktop is Emperor, macbook is rockhopper, and my wireless is named Igloo) [14:53] gamerchick02: Very cool [14:53] * gamerchick02 is such a huge nerd [14:53] Mine are named after Red Drawf characters [14:54] penguins are not thata nerdy. [14:54] apparently I'm now channeling Mario [14:54] "itsa Me, Mario!" [14:54] lol [14:55] Worst stereotype in videogames ever. [14:55] penguins are pretty awesome. did you know that there were HUGE prehistoric penguins? [14:55] i agree though, about the stereotype [14:55] That's because Penguins are badass [14:55] cmaloney: I think rick would be even more scary than that if there were java in the repo. I know I would [14:55] jrwren: Working with the material I have. [14:56] jrwren: Pretty sure there would be a paddling. [14:56] uhm. [14:57] note to self, do not commit Java to the repo. (not that i ever would) [14:57] cmaloney: team was none to happy when I tried to sneak in 20 lines of perl. :) [14:57] committing Java sounds like "committing seppuku" or something [14:58] "but you don't like my perls of wisdom" *badum tiss* [14:58] * gamerchick02 bows. i'll be here all day [14:59] jrwren: I don't blame them. With 20 lines of Perl you could rewrite the human genome [15:00] jrwren: mankind is not ready for that kind of awesome responsibility. [15:02] cmaloney: funny you mention it. I think I used perl to do some bioinformatics on part of the human genome 10+yrs ago. [15:02] See? [15:34] Penguins don't live in igloos [15:34] lol [15:36] Sorry. Lag. [18:17] no they don't. but i picked my wireless name and then was like "whoops". so i stuck with it. should be iceberg [18:17] and hi hi ColonelPanic001 long time no see [18:18] hi [18:19] i'm off work today. yay! [18:19] the best way to start a day [18:19] :) yes. that and coffee. [18:20] i'm going to a concert tonight and theoretically i could have worked but... i didn't want to. hah [18:21] that's all the reason that's needed [18:21] :-D [20:56] http://metalinjection.fm [20:56] ^^ Clothe your ears in metal. :) [22:28] has anybody set up filevault on a fresh MBP recently? [23:57] ok, so, every time I think "I should just whip up a quick python script to do this, there's already a library for that services API that looks nice." I end up not doing it because I remember bad experiences with venvs, system-installed versus user vs local libraries and having a hard time getting a program to run on a different machine due to mismatching versions [23:57] what should I follow to Do It Right(TM)? [23:57] opinionated opinions highly welcome