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Kilosgreetings oh learned ones04:33
Kiloshi Tonberry  05:00
Tonberryhi05:01
Squirmmorning05:03
Kiloshi Squirm  05:03
Kiloshi barrydk  05:42
barrydkMore Kilos and others05:44
Kiloshi mazal  05:44
mazalMôre oom05:44
Kiloshi Padroni  06:14
Padronihi Kilos06:15
Kilosyou have the day off yesterday?06:15
Padroniyes06:17
Kiloslekker06:18
Padroniworked a double the previous day06:18
Kilosai!06:18
Padronihad a late meeting last night as well with some government people06:18
Padroniso when I got home I crashed HARD06:18
Kilossjoe06:18
stickyboySoftware Freedom Conservancy is suing VMWare over Linux GPLv2 violations:06:25
stickyboyhttps://twitter.com/conservancy/status/57352394424806604806:25
stickyboyWe should all go donate to them.06:25
Kilosmorning stickyboy  06:26
stickyboyKilos: yo yoyoy06:33
Kiloshehe06:35
stickyboyMorning, Kilos.06:42
Kiloshahaha you full of beans hey06:42
stickyboyKilos: :P06:48
stickyboyKilos: pushing code to GitHub, of course I'm full of beans. :P06:48
stickyboyAnd I just donated to the Software Freedom Conservancy. :D06:48
mazalKilos: You're making me lus for coffee06:49
Kilosstickyboy  go see if you see me there sharpeys. i seem to have got 2 accounts over the time but didnt know what to do with them06:52
Kilosmazal  coffe is on its way here06:52
mazalNever mention beans , steak or sweets :P06:53
Kiloslol06:54
PadroniI bought rump steak yesterday06:59
Kilossis man06:59
Padronithinking that - as my wife and daughters don't really like red meat06:59
PadroniI am gonna score on supper last night06:59
Padroniand have left over for lunch today07:00
Padronidecided to make it like I used to when I was a bachelor:07:00
Kiloshehe07:00
Padroniin the oven, spiced up and drowned in worcheshire sause07:00
Padroni*sauce07:00
Kiloseeeek07:00
* Padroni noticed that dyslexia is fnu07:00
PadroniSo I pop it in the oven and go to my meeting07:00
Padronicome back07:01
PadroniTHEY ATE IT ALL07:01
Kilosrofl07:01
Padronileft me almost nothing07:01
mazallol07:01
Padronieveryone is sitting there stuffed an remarking on the meat07:01
mazalLaat dit vir jou 'n les wees07:01
Kilospeeps that dont eat meat only dont eat meat when no one is watching07:01
PadroniI am sitting with 1/2 a plate of mash and a brown stain where my meat should be, crying over my steak07:01
mazalNever leave your meat alone07:01
Padronilesson learned.07:01
Kilosrump must be done on a braai and eaten there07:02
PadroniI even cut off all the fat, knowing they hate it07:02
Padroninext time, the fat stays07:02
Padronimaybe they will be less likely to devour the f&%$king thing07:02
Kilosthe fat is the best part07:02
Padroniikr?07:02
PadroniI got a new set of Zwilling (JA Henckel) knives for my birthday07:03
Padronithey are SHARP07:04
Padronicuts through that steak like you cannot believe07:04
Kilosgood knives are worth every cent you pay for them07:04
Padronihttps://www.facebook.com/ZWILLINGJAHENCKELSLLC07:05
PadroniI agree07:05
PadroniI hate a blunt knife07:05
Kiloscheap knives are for bread only07:05
Kiloshmm...07:18
Kilosinetpro  cremora07:23
inetprogood mornings07:23
Kiloshi TinuvaMac  07:44
TinuvaMacmorning Kilos07:46
=== TinuvaMa_ is now known as Tinuva
magellanicdoes anyone trust the "unattended-upgrade" package, to detect (never actually do), security updates?11:19
SquirmWe use apticron11:21
magellanicmint update manager tells me there's a security upgrade waiting, running unattended-upgrades -d --dry-run, says no packages would be upgraded.11:22
magellanicI suspect it is not correctly identifying security updates. checking in the mint channel too11:23
ThatGraemeGuymagellanic: did you properly configure unattended-upgrades?11:24
magellanicno, left it at default settings?11:25
ThatGraemeGuyyou have to tell it which apt sources to pull from11:25
ThatGraemeGuyI would offer to share my config, but my local copper liberation organisation was hard at work again, so my pc is currently offline11:26
ThatGraemeGuyand will be for the forseeable future if last time is any indication11:26
magellanicit comes with a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades which looks right?11:26
magellanicin there I see this: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security";11:27
magellanicwhich I assume would let it find security updates11:27
tumbleweedI trust Ubuntu security updates not to break things11:28
tumbleweedbut I don't want updates on a database master, at a random time11:28
tumbleweedI want to be in control of that11:28
magellanicyeah, I'm just wondering if this tool is valid in the case for finding all your security updates, among all the pending updates.11:31
magellanicsomeone I'm helping wants to do frequent updates of just security packages, leaving other stuff for later11:32
tumbleweedthat's what unattended-upgrade does by default11:34
magellanicI'm on mint, it's update manager tells me there is a security update waiting, but if I run the unattended-upgrade command in dry run, it doesn't find any packages as security candidates11:37
magellanicso I wasn't sure I should trust the tool11:37
tumbleweedah, I don't know if I'd trust mint's security updates11:38
magellanichaha11:38
tumbleweedmint also might not have customised unattended-upgrade to work with therir updates11:38
magellanicsounds like the second case, the changelog in its tool says icu needs an update: icu (52.1-3ubuntu0.2) trusty-security; urgency=medium (SECURITY UPDATE: information disclosure via incorrect font file parsing)11:40
tumbleweedthat's an Ubuntu update, not a mint one11:59
magellanichmm, so unattended-upgrade should have found it as a security update candidate no?12:01
ThatGraemeGuyAll I can say is that unattended-upgrades does work if you configure it properly12:10
ThatGraemeGuybut yeah, no ADSL means I'm no further help12:10
ThatGraemeGuyI have mine automaticaly upgrading everything12:11
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s214VArrw412:13
Kiloshehe12:13
tumbleweedmagellanic: it should12:13
* Squirm looks around12:26
SquirmHello all12:26
Kiloshi Squirm  12:26
Kilos  maaz also took a break12:26
MaazKilos: Excuse me?12:26
mazalBye everyone , have a nice weekend , God bless12:38
ThatGraemeGuyafter years of threatening I'm finally going to get myself hooked up to ctwug12:48
Tinuvasame here12:49
Tinuvayour id is pretty damn low12:49
Tinuva221112:49
magellanicanything interesting on ctwug? I was considering also connecting12:56
ThatGraemeGuyyeah I added myself 4 or 5 years ago already, there was just always something else13:12
ThatGraemeGuynow that our telkom line is dead yet again i'm making a plan13:12
magellanicis it worth joining though, one can't get internet off of there13:16
Tinuvamagellanic: its not meant for internet13:29
Tinuvabut there is lotsa linux distros available on ctwug13:29
Tinuvaeven the latest linux distros available13:29
Tinuvathe linux distros i have automated via sickrage/sabnzbd will also be on it once i am connected13:30
magellanicyeah I know it's most useful for lan gaming and file sharing14:02
* Symmetria builds himself a network probe outta a rasberry pi 2 14:35
magellanicprobing what?14:57
Symmetriabasically to run cron'ed pings and traceroutes and mtr's15:02
Symmetriaand send all the data back to myself where I process it15:02
Symmetriaso at a glance I can see how the network is performing from a customer perspective15:02
magellanicah okay, yeah15:13
magellanichow long did it take to get your pi? did you order from rs components?15:44
=== hadoop is now known as Guest95643
Guest95643i want to know what application is the best to download video files17:34
Kiloshi Guest95643  17:34
Kilosif you have the direct link to it use wget -c from your terminal17:34
Guest95643thanks very grateful17:36
Kilosimo its quicker than with a browser and the -c lets it fetch only what hasnt been downloaded in case of broken connection17:36
Kilosyou welcome to visit here more often or even stay here all the time17:36
Kilosbecome part of our community17:37
Guest95643i'll always visit and stay on this forum, it's really an eye opener17:37
Kiloscool thats why we are here17:38
Kilosyou can install an IRC client then its easier17:38
Guest95643yes i have xchat already installed17:40
Kiloscool17:40
Guest95643does it download to the present working directory ??17:42
Kilosinto you home folde17:42
Kilosfolder17:42
Kilosif you dont see it then tick on view and tick show hidden17:43
Guest95643okay17:47
Guest95643thanks17:47
Kilosyoure welcome17:47
Guest95643the video file dosen't play17:53
Guest95643and it is not a video file i can transfer to a USB to play on a windows machine17:54
Kiloswhat error do you get?17:55
Guest95643it doesn't give any error, tried opening it with firefox.17:56
Guest95643file:///home/hadoop/Downloads/11940330017:56
Guest95643this is the file name17:56
Kilosdoesnt it show as a video or jpeg or something?17:56
Kilosdo you have vlc installed17:57
Kilostry opening it with a media player like vlc17:57
Kilosright click and open with17:58
Guest95643it shows as a html file17:59
Guest95643not a video file17:59
Kiloseish17:59
Kilosdid you download the right file17:59
Guest95643yes i did17:59
Kiloswhat format is it in online18:00
Kilosim not clued up with this kind of stuff but im sure someone here will have an answer18:01
Kilosmy last try would be to rename it .jpeg or some video thing18:01
Guest95643i have sent the file18:03
Kilosto where?18:04
Kilosyou been here before hey? hadoop rings a bell somewhere18:04
Guest95643this is my first time here18:05
Kilosah then welcome to ubuntu-za18:05
Guest95643thanks18:06
inetprohi Guest9564318:11
Guest95643hello18:11
inetprochange your nick to something we can recognise 18:11
Guest95643okay i'll do18:11
inetpro /nick SomeProperNick18:12
inetprowith a space in front18:12
inetprowithout*18:12
Kiloshadoop is good18:13
Kiloswe have a mopkop here too18:13
inetprohadoop reminds me of Apache Hadoop18:14
Kilosive seen it somewhere18:14
Kiloshehe18:14
inetproa software framework written in Java18:15
Kiloswow i dont look at that heavy stuff18:15
Kilosinetpro  why would a video file come out as html18:16
inetprobecause the real video is wrapped inside it18:16
Guest95643trying to look for the way to change my profile name18:16
Kilosoh so he must just open it18:16
KilosGuest95643  /nick newnick18:16
inetproGuest95643: /nick SomeProperNick18:17
inetproGuest95643: /nick MyRealName18:17
inetprolike danny or something :-)18:17
Kilosyou do it here not in a terminal18:17
Guest95643Guest95643: /nick hadoop18:18
inetprostart with the slash18:18
inetproai!18:20
Guest95643so it's changed now18:20
inetprono18:21
Kilosthe /nick is a command for freenode18:21
* inetpro goes to make some coffee18:22
Kilosshame18:22
inetprohmm...18:25
inetproah18:25
Kiloshi dannyxyz  wb18:25
inetprowb dannyxyz18:25
dannyxyzyes i'm back18:25
dannyxyzhow can i save my channels on xchat18:26
Kiloscool inetpro  will tell you how to open that file and get your video18:26
inetpronow even though that nick still looks odd it's much better than Gues...18:26
inetproKilos: uh18:26
Kiloslol18:26
dannyxyzyes the video is embedded in the doc18:27
Kilosdannyxyz  when it opens the frist window you tick freenode then tick edit on the right18:27
dannyxyzi have been able to see it18:27
Kilosthen in favourite channels you enter #ubuntu-za18:27
dannyxyzaii thanks18:31
Kilosyw18:31
dannyxyzi am trying to setup an opensource tacacs server does anyone have an idea on how to go about this18:32
Kiloshi magellanic  18:33
magellanicheya18:34
Kilosdannyxyz  just be patient, someone that knows will see your request now now18:46
magellanicwhat was the request?18:46
Kiloshttp://www.brocade.com/downloads/documents/html_product_manuals/FOS_730_ADMIN_04/GUID-5BC4B7B6-ADE1-4715-80B3-F0F46BA5220D.html18:47
Kilos<dannyxyz> i am trying to setup an opensource tacacs server does anyone have an idea on how to go about this18:47
Kilosdannyxyz  that link or this one could help18:48
magellanicoh, interesting. what is the use case?18:48
Kiloshttp://freelinuxtutorials.com/tutorials/installation-setup-of-free-tacacs-server-in-linux/18:48
dannyxyzyes i have seen the link, i think it will18:49
dannyxyzkilos thanks for the prompt feedback18:49
Kiloswe try keep peeps happy here18:49
Kiloswhen you type in someones nick here type in the first 3 or 4 letters and hit tab18:51
Kilostab complete function18:51
magellanicwhat's your use case dannyxyz? 18:51
SquirmEvenikng18:52
Kiloshi Squirm  y18:52
Kiloshi Trixar_za  18:53
dannyxyzmagellanic, the use case is to authenticate and authorize users on the network devices18:53
SquirmHe's not here, just our bouncers coming u18:54
Squirmp18:54
Kilosah18:54
KilosSquirm  did you kill QA18:55
Kilosor you guys been upgrading or something18:55
SquirmOur box restarted18:55
Kilosah18:55
magellanicah okay dannyxyz, and how far have you gotten? where are you stuck?18:56
Kiloshaha inetpro  just had an evil idea18:57
inetproKilos: ?18:58
Kilosi should apply for a seat on the membership board then i can ensure you dont get a sjambok18:59
* Kilos hides18:59
* inetpro has had a sjambok long ago already19:01
Kilosnot such a powerful one19:01
Kilosseekoei19:01
Kilosyou got a plastic one19:01
dannyxyzyea magellanic i'm still installing, things going smoothly thanks19:02
magellanicokay good19:03
magellanicgood luck ;)19:04
Kilosi <3 konversation19:07
Kilosget to see all the emoticons19:07
Kiloshi mopkop  19:07
mopkopGood evening all!19:07
magellanicheya19:07
dannyxyzleaving thanks for the help it's been a very helpful forum.19:10
Kiloshmm...19:11
Kilosisnt this better than a forum19:12
magellanicguess not :/19:12
Kilosat least he said ty19:13
magellanic:p19:13
magellanicforum of bots19:13
magellanicyou lot19:13
magellanic:p19:14
Kilosuh oh19:30
Kiloshe broke it again19:30
* Kilos waits for habana19:31
Kiloshibana19:31
Kilosohi superfly  19:31
mopkopBroke what?19:31
Kilosthier server19:31
Kilostheir19:31
mopkopOeps :|19:31
Kilosmost likely upgrading or maintenance19:32
Kiloson his way back now19:33
magellanichas anyone had good experiences with afrihost dedicated hosting? is it just me hating the service?..19:33
mopkopHello Mzolisto!19:33
Kiloswb inetpro  19:33
mopkopHello inetpro!19:33
KilosMzolisto  never chats19:33
mopkopI see...19:33
inetprouh oh!19:34
mopkopMaybe it's a bot logging all our messages, spying on us...19:34
Kilosno he works with inetpro  19:34
inetprohe's very shy19:34
mopkopSjoe :)19:34
* Kilos also very shy19:35
mopkopAnyway. Anyone from Pretoria? I need help with a church project. Actually I just need a bunch of old computers people are willing to throw out. Where can I get some?19:38
Kiloshow old is old?19:38
Kilosas in what must they be able to run19:39
magellanicget some pi's19:39
mopkopAny computer. I'm gonna fix them and sell it for a fund raiser. If I can't fix it, I can use it for parts.19:39
Kilosoh i see the new pi is a quadcore with 1g of ram19:40
magellanicyeah heard praises of it so far19:40
Kiloscan one use that pi in place of a motherboard in a pc?19:41
magellanicno, you can't change the processor or ram on it etc19:41
Kilosno man i mean put the py in a box instead of a motherboard19:42
magellanicno, have you seen its size?19:42
Kilosya they small19:43
magellaniccomes with its own cute little casing19:43
Kilosmaybe put 2 in a box19:43
Kilosand can you install ubuntu on it and use it like a pc19:43
magellanicit comes with snappy core I think19:44
magellanicbut there's 2/3 roms for it I believe19:44
magellanicyes people are already using it as a small but full functional pc19:44
Kilosi saw a pic where they have 4 next to each other19:45
Kiloscalled it a super computer19:45
magellanicyeah, I need to get one19:46
KilosR350 is a good price, thats less than 4g ddr3 ram19:47
magellanicafrihost are changing a disk for me, 2 hours no word. something seems wrong19:47
Kilosai!19:47
magellanicor it takes this long for them to change a disk, who knows19:48
Kilosdisk?19:48
magellanichard disk drive19:49
Kiloswb inetpro  19:49
Kiloscan they do it without cutting power?19:49
mopkophttp://ngkwonderboom.co.za/www/index.php/argiewe/nuus/858-skenk-n-rekenaar19:49
magellanicno, they've shut it down19:49
Kilosmaybe theyll only do it at 3am19:50
Kilossurely theres more than 1 drive there that needs to be shutdown19:50
Kilosoh they have already19:50
magellanicit's off19:51
Kilosai!19:51
magellanicsince 8pm19:51
Kilosmaybe its supper time19:52
Kiloscall them man19:53
magellanicheh19:53
magellanicyeah19:53
magellanicbrb19:53
mopkopSo what TLC needs to be done on the Get-involved page?19:54
Kilosi dont know19:55
mopkopMaybe we could just explain everything more?19:56
Kiloswho put that card there19:57
Kilosoh the fly19:57
Kilosi donnt see anything wrong with it19:59
mopkopIs there anything that still needs to be done with the menu's and social links. Have we decided where the Social links should be?19:59
Kilosno we are waiting for the fly to view it but he is very busy20:00
Kilosi like it with the social links at the bottom and opening in a new page20:01
Kilosthey still show up well in red like that i think20:01
mopkopI see. So we just wait?20:03
Kilosyeah20:03
Kiloshave you started learning python yet?20:04
SquirmWhat's that minecraft-like game you guys were playing?20:05
SquirmIs the server still up?20:05
Kilosminetest20:05
mopkopI know a few people who are also constantly busy. Ironically they are the ones who always make time for you. My mother always says: "If you want something done, give it to a busy man to do".20:05
mopkopNo I haven't, been doing assignments all this time.20:05
Kilosdo you know the link to the server Squirm  20:06
SquirmKilos: is the server still up?20:06
Kilosive lost it somewhere20:06
Kilosi think so20:06
Kilosi dont even have minetest installed anymore20:07
SquirmOk20:07
Squirm:/20:07
SquirmHmm20:07
Kilosthe pro will know the link20:07
Kiloslet me search other drives and see , maybe i have it saved somewhere20:08
Squirminetpro?20:10
nuvolarioh hi20:11
nuvolari:D20:11
Kiloshi nuvolari  20:11
Squirm'lo20:11
Squirmltnc nuvolari20:11
* nuvolari and Squirm is partying big time20:11
nuvolari:P20:11
nuvolariyeah20:11
nuvolariltnc20:11
SquirmKilos: come now20:13
SquirmWe want to play20:13
Kilosim hunting20:13
Squirm:D20:13
Kiloscould be anywhere on 5 drives20:13
Kiloslol20:13
Squirm:p20:14
inetproSquirm: mt.donaldson.za.net:3000020:20
inetproI think so at least20:20
mopkopCan I join?20:20
* inetpro found it in my backups20:20
Kilosthat looks like it ya ty inetpro  20:20
Kilosyes mopkop  20:21
Kilosbut you need to install minetest20:21
mopkopAlready did :)20:21
Kilosand you gotta get the right version i think20:21
Kiloswe had a big rigmarole20:21
inetproI'm sure ThatGraemeGuy will be happy to see people interested again20:22
Kilosbut try go to the link20:22
Kilosyes20:22
Kiloswhen you totally hooked you can blow 30g data in a month20:23
Squirminetpro: Brilliant20:23
mopkopMy current usage is about 800 GB, but that's for the whole family.20:24
inetproSquirm: we also have the local channel #minetest-za 20:24
inetpronot much happening there now but maybe you can get it alive again20:24
mopkopI'm in!20:24
Squirmnuvolari and myself might join now20:24
mopkopNow I just need to figure out how to make a torch... ::-/20:25
Kilosyay mopkop  find my place then to the north and left some is a pad for moving place to place20:25
mopkopI'm ther :)20:26
mopkopthere20:26
Kilosthere are lights in my place20:26
mopkopHow do I open the door?20:26
Kilosand the stuff needed for everything in the chests20:26
Kilosoh my did i close them20:27
Kilosjust knock a hole throught the wall so long20:27
Kilosor20:27
mopkopNevermind, I used the teleporter20:27
Kilosyou can go to the power station and find the hole to the tunnels underneeth and follow the cables 20:28
Kilosthose steel doors only open for the owner i think20:29
Kilosjust add another door in one side wall20:29
mopkopNevermind, the sun is up now :)20:30
Kiloslol20:30
Kilostorches you make out of sticks and coal i think20:30
Kilosmust be some in the chests there20:30
Kilosis the power off?20:31
nuvolaritestmine20:32
nuvolariplaying am i20:32
Kiloslol20:33
Kilosmopkop  is the power off at my place?20:33
Kilosthen you got big work20:33
mopkopO sorry, I moved on already, i'll go look.20:33
inetpronuvolari, mopkop, Kilos: join #minetest-za20:34
Kilosai!20:34
inetpronuvolari: join #minetest-za20:36
Kilosnight all . sleep tight21:29

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