[04:33] greetings oh learned ones [05:00] hi Tonberry [05:01] hi [05:03] morning [05:03] hi Squirm [05:42] hi barrydk [05:44] More Kilos and others [05:44] hi mazal [05:44] Môre oom [06:14] hi Padroni [06:15] hi Kilos [06:15] you have the day off yesterday? [06:17] yes [06:18] lekker [06:18] worked a double the previous day [06:18] ai! [06:18] had a late meeting last night as well with some government people [06:18] so when I got home I crashed HARD [06:18] sjoe [06:25] Software Freedom Conservancy is suing VMWare over Linux GPLv2 violations: [06:25] https://twitter.com/conservancy/status/573523944248066048 [06:25] We should all go donate to them. [06:26] morning stickyboy [06:33] Kilos: yo yoyoy [06:35] hehe [06:42] Morning, Kilos. [06:42] hahaha you full of beans hey [06:48] Kilos: :P [06:48] Kilos: pushing code to GitHub, of course I'm full of beans. :P [06:48] And I just donated to the Software Freedom Conservancy. :D [06:49] Kilos: You're making me lus for coffee [06:52] stickyboy go see if you see me there sharpeys. i seem to have got 2 accounts over the time but didnt know what to do with them [06:52] mazal coffe is on its way here [06:53] Never mention beans , steak or sweets :P [06:54] lol [06:59] I bought rump steak yesterday [06:59] sis man [06:59] thinking that - as my wife and daughters don't really like red meat [06:59] I am gonna score on supper last night [07:00] and have left over for lunch today [07:00] decided to make it like I used to when I was a bachelor: [07:00] hehe [07:00] in the oven, spiced up and drowned in worcheshire sause [07:00] *sauce [07:00] eeeek [07:00] * Padroni noticed that dyslexia is fnu [07:00] So I pop it in the oven and go to my meeting [07:01] come back [07:01] THEY ATE IT ALL [07:01] rofl [07:01] left me almost nothing [07:01] lol [07:01] everyone is sitting there stuffed an remarking on the meat [07:01] Laat dit vir jou 'n les wees [07:01] peeps that dont eat meat only dont eat meat when no one is watching [07:01] I am sitting with 1/2 a plate of mash and a brown stain where my meat should be, crying over my steak [07:01] Never leave your meat alone [07:01] lesson learned. [07:02] rump must be done on a braai and eaten there [07:02] I even cut off all the fat, knowing they hate it [07:02] next time, the fat stays [07:02] maybe they will be less likely to devour the f&%$king thing [07:02] the fat is the best part [07:02] ikr? [07:03] I got a new set of Zwilling (JA Henckel) knives for my birthday [07:04] they are SHARP [07:04] cuts through that steak like you cannot believe [07:04] good knives are worth every cent you pay for them [07:05] https://www.facebook.com/ZWILLINGJAHENCKELSLLC [07:05] I agree [07:05] I hate a blunt knife [07:05] cheap knives are for bread only [07:18] hmm... [07:23] inetpro cremora [07:23] good mornings [07:44] hi TinuvaMac [07:46] morning Kilos === TinuvaMa_ is now known as Tinuva [11:19] does anyone trust the "unattended-upgrade" package, to detect (never actually do), security updates? [11:21] We use apticron [11:22] mint update manager tells me there's a security upgrade waiting, running unattended-upgrades -d --dry-run, says no packages would be upgraded. [11:23] I suspect it is not correctly identifying security updates. checking in the mint channel too [11:24] magellanic: did you properly configure unattended-upgrades? [11:25] no, left it at default settings? [11:25] you have to tell it which apt sources to pull from [11:26] I would offer to share my config, but my local copper liberation organisation was hard at work again, so my pc is currently offline [11:26] and will be for the forseeable future if last time is any indication [11:26] it comes with a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades which looks right? [11:27] in there I see this: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security"; [11:27] which I assume would let it find security updates [11:28] I trust Ubuntu security updates not to break things [11:28] but I don't want updates on a database master, at a random time [11:28] I want to be in control of that [11:31] yeah, I'm just wondering if this tool is valid in the case for finding all your security updates, among all the pending updates. [11:32] someone I'm helping wants to do frequent updates of just security packages, leaving other stuff for later [11:34] that's what unattended-upgrade does by default [11:37] I'm on mint, it's update manager tells me there is a security update waiting, but if I run the unattended-upgrade command in dry run, it doesn't find any packages as security candidates [11:37] so I wasn't sure I should trust the tool [11:38] ah, I don't know if I'd trust mint's security updates [11:38] haha [11:38] mint also might not have customised unattended-upgrade to work with therir updates [11:40] sounds like the second case, the changelog in its tool says icu needs an update: icu (52.1-3ubuntu0.2) trusty-security; urgency=medium (SECURITY UPDATE: information disclosure via incorrect font file parsing) [11:59] that's an Ubuntu update, not a mint one [12:01] hmm, so unattended-upgrade should have found it as a security update candidate no? [12:10] All I can say is that unattended-upgrades does work if you configure it properly [12:10] but yeah, no ADSL means I'm no further help [12:11] I have mine automaticaly upgrading everything [12:13] http://slexy.org/view/s214VArrw4 [12:13] hehe [12:13] magellanic: it should [12:26] * Squirm looks around [12:26] Hello all [12:26] hi Squirm [12:26] maaz also took a break [12:26] Kilos: Excuse me? [12:38] Bye everyone , have a nice weekend , God bless [12:48] after years of threatening I'm finally going to get myself hooked up to ctwug [12:49] same here [12:49] your id is pretty damn low [12:49] 2211 [12:56] anything interesting on ctwug? I was considering also connecting [13:12] yeah I added myself 4 or 5 years ago already, there was just always something else [13:12] now that our telkom line is dead yet again i'm making a plan [13:16] is it worth joining though, one can't get internet off of there [13:29] magellanic: its not meant for internet [13:29] but there is lotsa linux distros available on ctwug [13:29] even the latest linux distros available [13:30] the linux distros i have automated via sickrage/sabnzbd will also be on it once i am connected [14:02] yeah I know it's most useful for lan gaming and file sharing [14:35] * Symmetria builds himself a network probe outta a rasberry pi 2 [14:57] probing what? [15:02] basically to run cron'ed pings and traceroutes and mtr's [15:02] and send all the data back to myself where I process it [15:02] so at a glance I can see how the network is performing from a customer perspective [15:13] ah okay, yeah [15:44] how long did it take to get your pi? did you order from rs components? === hadoop is now known as Guest95643 [17:34] i want to know what application is the best to download video files [17:34] hi Guest95643 [17:34] if you have the direct link to it use wget -c from your terminal [17:36] thanks very grateful [17:36] imo its quicker than with a browser and the -c lets it fetch only what hasnt been downloaded in case of broken connection [17:36] you welcome to visit here more often or even stay here all the time [17:37] become part of our community [17:37] i'll always visit and stay on this forum, it's really an eye opener [17:38] cool thats why we are here [17:38] you can install an IRC client then its easier [17:40] yes i have xchat already installed [17:40] cool [17:42] does it download to the present working directory ?? [17:42] into you home folde [17:42] folder [17:43] if you dont see it then tick on view and tick show hidden [17:47] okay [17:47] thanks [17:47] youre welcome [17:53] the video file dosen't play [17:54] and it is not a video file i can transfer to a USB to play on a windows machine [17:55] what error do you get? [17:56] it doesn't give any error, tried opening it with firefox. [17:56] file:///home/hadoop/Downloads/119403300 [17:56] this is the file name [17:56] doesnt it show as a video or jpeg or something? [17:57] do you have vlc installed [17:57] try opening it with a media player like vlc [17:58] right click and open with [17:59] it shows as a html file [17:59] not a video file [17:59] eish [17:59] did you download the right file [17:59] yes i did [18:00] what format is it in online [18:01] im not clued up with this kind of stuff but im sure someone here will have an answer [18:01] my last try would be to rename it .jpeg or some video thing [18:03] i have sent the file [18:04] to where? [18:04] you been here before hey? hadoop rings a bell somewhere [18:05] this is my first time here [18:05] ah then welcome to ubuntu-za [18:06] thanks [18:11] hi Guest95643 [18:11] hello [18:11] change your nick to something we can recognise [18:11] okay i'll do [18:12] /nick SomeProperNick [18:12] with a space in front [18:12] without* [18:13] hadoop is good [18:13] we have a mopkop here too [18:14] hadoop reminds me of Apache Hadoop [18:14] ive seen it somewhere [18:14] hehe [18:15] a software framework written in Java [18:15] wow i dont look at that heavy stuff [18:16] inetpro why would a video file come out as html [18:16] because the real video is wrapped inside it [18:16] trying to look for the way to change my profile name [18:16] oh so he must just open it [18:16] Guest95643 /nick newnick [18:17] Guest95643: /nick SomeProperNick [18:17] Guest95643: /nick MyRealName [18:17] like danny or something :-) [18:17] you do it here not in a terminal [18:18] Guest95643: /nick hadoop [18:18] start with the slash [18:20] ai! [18:20] so it's changed now [18:21] no [18:21] the /nick is a command for freenode [18:22] * inetpro goes to make some coffee [18:22] shame [18:25] hmm... [18:25] ah [18:25] hi dannyxyz wb [18:25] wb dannyxyz [18:25] yes i'm back [18:26] how can i save my channels on xchat [18:26] cool inetpro will tell you how to open that file and get your video [18:26] now even though that nick still looks odd it's much better than Gues... [18:26] Kilos: uh [18:26] lol [18:27] yes the video is embedded in the doc [18:27] dannyxyz when it opens the frist window you tick freenode then tick edit on the right [18:27] i have been able to see it [18:27] then in favourite channels you enter #ubuntu-za [18:31] aii thanks [18:31] yw [18:32] i am trying to setup an opensource tacacs server does anyone have an idea on how to go about this [18:33] hi magellanic [18:34] heya [18:46] dannyxyz just be patient, someone that knows will see your request now now [18:46] what was the request? [18:47] http://www.brocade.com/downloads/documents/html_product_manuals/FOS_730_ADMIN_04/GUID-5BC4B7B6-ADE1-4715-80B3-F0F46BA5220D.html [18:47] i am trying to setup an opensource tacacs server does anyone have an idea on how to go about this [18:48] dannyxyz that link or this one could help [18:48] oh, interesting. what is the use case? [18:48] http://freelinuxtutorials.com/tutorials/installation-setup-of-free-tacacs-server-in-linux/ [18:49] yes i have seen the link, i think it will [18:49] kilos thanks for the prompt feedback [18:49] we try keep peeps happy here [18:51] when you type in someones nick here type in the first 3 or 4 letters and hit tab [18:51] tab complete function [18:51] what's your use case dannyxyz? [18:52] Evenikng [18:52] hi Squirm y [18:53] hi Trixar_za [18:53] magellanic, the use case is to authenticate and authorize users on the network devices [18:54] He's not here, just our bouncers coming u [18:54] p [18:54] ah [18:55] Squirm did you kill QA [18:55] or you guys been upgrading or something [18:55] Our box restarted [18:55] ah [18:56] ah okay dannyxyz, and how far have you gotten? where are you stuck? [18:57] haha inetpro just had an evil idea [18:58] Kilos: ? [18:59] i should apply for a seat on the membership board then i can ensure you dont get a sjambok [18:59] * Kilos hides [19:01] * inetpro has had a sjambok long ago already [19:01] not such a powerful one [19:01] seekoei [19:01] you got a plastic one [19:02] yea magellanic i'm still installing, things going smoothly thanks [19:03] okay good [19:04] good luck ;) [19:07] i <3 konversation [19:07] get to see all the emoticons [19:07] hi mopkop [19:07] Good evening all! [19:07] heya [19:10] leaving thanks for the help it's been a very helpful forum. [19:11] hmm... [19:12] isnt this better than a forum [19:12] guess not :/ [19:13] at least he said ty [19:13] :p [19:13] forum of bots [19:13] you lot [19:14] :p [19:30] uh oh [19:30] he broke it again [19:31] * Kilos waits for habana [19:31] hibana [19:31] ohi superfly [19:31] Broke what? [19:31] thier server [19:31] their [19:31] Oeps :| [19:32] most likely upgrading or maintenance [19:33] on his way back now [19:33] has anyone had good experiences with afrihost dedicated hosting? is it just me hating the service?.. [19:33] Hello Mzolisto! [19:33] wb inetpro [19:33] Hello inetpro! [19:33] Mzolisto never chats [19:33] I see... [19:34] uh oh! [19:34] Maybe it's a bot logging all our messages, spying on us... [19:34] no he works with inetpro [19:34] he's very shy [19:34] Sjoe :) [19:35] * Kilos also very shy [19:38] Anyway. Anyone from Pretoria? I need help with a church project. Actually I just need a bunch of old computers people are willing to throw out. Where can I get some? [19:38] how old is old? [19:39] as in what must they be able to run [19:39] get some pi's [19:39] Any computer. I'm gonna fix them and sell it for a fund raiser. If I can't fix it, I can use it for parts. [19:40] oh i see the new pi is a quadcore with 1g of ram [19:40] yeah heard praises of it so far [19:41] can one use that pi in place of a motherboard in a pc? [19:41] no, you can't change the processor or ram on it etc [19:42] no man i mean put the py in a box instead of a motherboard [19:42] no, have you seen its size? [19:43] ya they small [19:43] comes with its own cute little casing [19:43] maybe put 2 in a box [19:43] and can you install ubuntu on it and use it like a pc [19:44] it comes with snappy core I think [19:44] but there's 2/3 roms for it I believe [19:44] yes people are already using it as a small but full functional pc [19:45] i saw a pic where they have 4 next to each other [19:45] called it a super computer [19:46] yeah, I need to get one [19:47] R350 is a good price, thats less than 4g ddr3 ram [19:47] afrihost are changing a disk for me, 2 hours no word. something seems wrong [19:47] ai! [19:48] or it takes this long for them to change a disk, who knows [19:48] disk? [19:49] hard disk drive [19:49] wb inetpro [19:49] can they do it without cutting power? [19:49] http://ngkwonderboom.co.za/www/index.php/argiewe/nuus/858-skenk-n-rekenaar [19:49] no, they've shut it down [19:50] maybe theyll only do it at 3am [19:50] surely theres more than 1 drive there that needs to be shutdown [19:50] oh they have already [19:51] it's off [19:51] ai! [19:51] since 8pm [19:52] maybe its supper time [19:53] call them man [19:53] heh [19:53] yeah [19:53] brb [19:54] So what TLC needs to be done on the Get-involved page? [19:55] i dont know [19:56] Maybe we could just explain everything more? [19:57] who put that card there [19:57] oh the fly [19:59] i donnt see anything wrong with it [19:59] Is there anything that still needs to be done with the menu's and social links. Have we decided where the Social links should be? [20:00] no we are waiting for the fly to view it but he is very busy [20:01] i like it with the social links at the bottom and opening in a new page [20:01] they still show up well in red like that i think [20:03] I see. So we just wait? [20:03] yeah [20:04] have you started learning python yet? [20:05] What's that minecraft-like game you guys were playing? [20:05] Is the server still up? [20:05] minetest [20:05] I know a few people who are also constantly busy. Ironically they are the ones who always make time for you. My mother always says: "If you want something done, give it to a busy man to do". [20:05] No I haven't, been doing assignments all this time. [20:06] do you know the link to the server Squirm [20:06] Kilos: is the server still up? [20:06] ive lost it somewhere [20:06] i think so [20:07] i dont even have minetest installed anymore [20:07] Ok [20:07] :/ [20:07] Hmm [20:07] the pro will know the link [20:08] let me search other drives and see , maybe i have it saved somewhere [20:10] inetpro? [20:11] oh hi [20:11] :D [20:11] hi nuvolari [20:11] 'lo [20:11] ltnc nuvolari [20:11] * nuvolari and Squirm is partying big time [20:11] :P [20:11] yeah [20:11] ltnc [20:13] Kilos: come now [20:13] We want to play [20:13] im hunting [20:13] :D [20:13] could be anywhere on 5 drives [20:13] lol [20:14] :p [20:20] Squirm: mt.donaldson.za.net:30000 [20:20] I think so at least [20:20] Can I join? [20:20] * inetpro found it in my backups [20:20] that looks like it ya ty inetpro [20:21] yes mopkop [20:21] but you need to install minetest [20:21] Already did :) [20:21] and you gotta get the right version i think [20:21] we had a big rigmarole [20:22] I'm sure ThatGraemeGuy will be happy to see people interested again [20:22] but try go to the link [20:22] yes [20:23] when you totally hooked you can blow 30g data in a month [20:23] inetpro: Brilliant [20:24] My current usage is about 800 GB, but that's for the whole family. [20:24] Squirm: we also have the local channel #minetest-za [20:24] not much happening there now but maybe you can get it alive again [20:24] I'm in! [20:24] nuvolari and myself might join now [20:25] Now I just need to figure out how to make a torch... ::-/ [20:25]