[00:41] <charlie> Hi!
[00:41] <charlie> is somebody here?
[00:42] <Guest15392> Hi!
[00:43] <Guest15392> hi..
[00:43] <holstein> Guest15392: yes
[00:43] <holstein> Guest15392: typically, folks just ask, if they have a question.. a volunteer here may be able to assist
[00:43] <Guest15392> Hi, I needed to know how and where I could downloadd the packages of ubuntu studio
[00:43] <holstein> Guest15392: the repos
[00:43] <Guest15392> since I currently have debian lxde
[00:44] <Guest15392> ahmmm
[00:44] <Guest15392> clever
[00:44] <holstein> Guest15392: you cant.. there are no "debian" repos
[00:44] <Guest15392> thank you
[00:44] <Guest15392> oh...
[00:44] <holstein> Guest15392: you will use, mostly, the same pacakges from the default debian repos
[00:44] <holstein> Guest15392: you can use KXstudio, which, provides ppa's to add to ubuntu, and sources to add to debian for additional
[00:44] <holstein> otherwise, ubuntustudio is ubuntu. we dont have any special sources
[00:46] <holstein> you can always use the .debs from ubuntustudio's repos in debian, but, theres no need for that
[00:46] <holstein> you can install lubuntu, and add whatever packages you are wanting from ubuntustudio, and end up with ubuntustudio, basically, running lxde
[00:47] <Guest15392> yeah, that will be way better
[00:47] <Guest15392> since actually the lxqt is only available on lubuntu
[00:47] <holstein> "better" is a matter of opinion.. it will be "Faster" for ssure
[00:47] <holstein> Guest15392: lxqt can likely be added the same.. with a 3rd party source, to either..
[00:48] <Guest15392> (actually Im only using lxde since I couldnt install lubuntu on my netbook since its faulty hd didnt install it
[00:50] <holstein> you wont address a "faulty hard drive" in any way, with any software.. .nothing like a desktop environment, anyway
[00:50] <holstein> some say you can do "magic" with spin right.. but, if the drive is bad.. its bad
[00:50] <holstein> lxde/lxqt is a nice lightweight environment.. wont fix any hardware
[14:33] <Bernhard_L> Hello is there a lfo audi plugin with pulse?
[17:37] <Bernhard_L> Hello, is it possible to emulate a dub siren with ardour?
[17:38] <holstein> Bernhard_L: a dub siren..
[17:38] <holstein> ?
[17:39] <holstein> if its on a seperate channel, you can mute it in a DAW
[17:39] <Bernhard_L> I am thinking of an oscillator and an lfo with pulse wave.
[17:39] <holstein> so, more noise removal?
[17:39] <holstein> you want to try and remove a certain predictable "noise"?
[17:40] <Bernhard_L> Yes I want to produce a tone with an oxci and the manipulate it with some plugins, maybe lfos.
[17:40] <holstein> Bernhard_L: if you are generating these tones, then, you just generate what you like, give it its own channel, and do what you like to it
[17:40] <Bernhard_L> holstein, I don't understand, what do you mean with remove?
[17:41] <holstein> Bernhard_L: i probably read "emulate" and "eliminate"
[17:41] <Bernhard_L> simple synthesizer architecture with 1 Oscillator and 2 independent LFOs (LFO1: rectified sine LFO2: pulse) additional chopper circuit to mute the sound during the low phase of LFO2
[17:41] <holstein> Bernhard_L: anyways, i would use whatever tools, or external synths, or whatever to create the sound i want, put it on its own track in ardour, and add whatever plugins and mix as i please
[17:42] <Bernhard_L> holstein, sorry I meant produce a siren like sound.
[17:42] <holstein> Bernhard_L: sure.. you can do that as you please
[17:43] <Bernhard_L> holstein, I cannot use a vst plugin like "The interruptor"
[17:43] <holstein> Bernhard_L: if it supports linux, you can use what you like
[17:43] <Bernhard_L> But I do not have lfo plugins like mentioned above, no pulse.
[17:44] <holstein> no pulse?
[17:44] <holstein> anyways, when i needed something like what you are talking about, i just generated it in the menu of audactity.. but, thats was more of a tone
[17:44] <Bernhard_L> No only sine, triangle ...
[17:44] <holstein> if i wanted, what i see you asking for, i would generate it with a synth.. such as http://wootangent.net/2010/03/linux-synth-tutorial-part-5/
[17:45] <holstein> using xsynth or whatever else does what i want.. then, i would use whatever plugin i need, if any, on it, after either importing, or recording into ardour
[17:45] <holstein> ardour, or qtractor, or whatever DAW im using..
[17:45] <Bernhard_L> holstein, I gonna have a look. I use Yoshimi, but that is not satisfying.
[17:45] <Bernhard_L> holstein, okay
[17:46] <holstein> Bernhard_L: i think, you are looking for a "dub siren" button.. and you are going to need to go higher level with it
[17:46] <holstein> you'll have to create whatever sound you want, and you can edit and create those sounds *many* ways
[17:46] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you can try a community such as #opensourcemusicians
[17:47] <holstein> i would have a prepared sample via youtube to share, so, folks like me, who *dont* konw what a "dub siren" is, but, can assist with sound generation, will know what you are talking about
[17:47] <holstein> "can i get assistance generating something like this in linux?" for example, with a link
[17:47] <Bernhard_L> holstein, are there some lfo ladspa plugins. I only use lfo phaser, that is not good.
[17:48] <holstein> "good" is a matter of opinion, of course.. but, there are many said tools
[17:48] <holstein> and outboard synths, you can use, and record into your machine
[17:48] <Bernhard_L> holstein, thank you, I will do it like you say.
[17:48] <holstein> could be, there is a system. where, you create the sound with a tool you dont much "like" and edit it with an audio plugin afterwards.
[17:49] <holstein> i would have to hear what you are going for, and do experiementation on my own to find an emulation path..
[17:50] <Bernhard_L> holstein, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe5pJz1mgII Dub siren example
[17:52] <holstein> Bernhard_L: i havent heard a sample yet,but you can do the same thing that is happening there
[17:52] <Bernhard_L> holstein, dub siren vst plugin
[17:52] <Bernhard_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFaN6gK5HfM
[17:52] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you'll generate the sound, and run it through the same type of effects that are on that hardware
[17:53] <holstein> Bernhard_L: you do that in jack with routing.. and you can control, in "realtime" whatever tweaks you want, and record that into ardour, or whatever DAW
[17:53] <holstein> Bernhard_L: i understand that there is a "dub siren "plugin.. and im not saying there is none for linux.. or none in the ubuntu repos. but, i dont do this. and i dont know anyone to tell you to ask
[17:54] <holstein> Bernhard_L: all i can suggest is, asking in communities like #opensourcemusicians, if you want a "standalone-all-in-one" plugin
[17:54] <Bernhard_L> holstein, don't worry, it is okay. I will ask them.
[17:54] <holstein> otherwise, i would create my own sound, like the guy that made the "rasta box" states.. and put them on a loop. and setup an effect chain that does what i want
[17:55] <holstein> then, i would start the loop, and press record on ardour, or whatever DAW, and make the sounds i need
[17:55] <Bernhard_L> holstein, yes.
[17:55] <holstein> Bernhard_L: the creators of *any* of those tools can, and are welceom to create a plugin for linux.. if you want to ask them if they have one
[17:56] <holstein> you can see, the ja effects has analog inputs on it..
[17:56] <holstein> you can route analog sources, like you can with your machine
[17:56] <holstein> you can hear the deb elephant.. we have pitch controls.. you can add occilation with a plugin.. and control it in realtime..
[17:57] <Bernhard_L> holstein, to be true, at the moment it is a book with seven seals for me. But I will go further step by step.
[17:57] <holstein> you'll generate the sound loop you want, and play it with a player.. something simple like audacious.. or whatever you want to use.. route it through whatever you like, and record it
[17:58] <holstein> i say, start simple.. think about this guy building that device.. and building each circuit, and testing them
[17:58] <holstein> thats what you can do.. you can chain *anything* into this loop..
[17:59] <Bernhard_L> holstein, good ideas. Simple is allways more creative.
[18:00] <holstein> Bernhard_L: there are some interesting, and similar effects on some of the guitar specific effects setups.. guitarix and rakarrack. might be worth looking at those, and playing with them
[18:03] <Bernhard_L> holstein, yes, that's it. I am experimenting with amsynth now. Very promising.
[18:05] <holstein> yup.. i dont hear anything that cant be done.. it'll just take some experimenting. and i do mostly just analog tracking, so, i dont have much first-hand suggestions..
[18:11] <Bernhard_L> holstein, with amsynth i can do all i want, i guess. I give a midi signal and than play with the random function!
[18:11] <holstein> Bernhard_L: cool.. enjoy!
[18:11] <Bernhard_L> holstein, thanks for your hand.