[02:06] <Espionage724> hmm, so I just did a clean install of today's Xubuntu 15.04 daily (BIOS mode with the LVM + encryption disk encryption options checked; no home folder encryption), and on the first boot after install, I only have a gray screen with a cursor on it
[03:48] <jumapico> Hi guys. Someone can tell me where is the source code of the xubuntu cd installer? (ubiquity?)
[03:48] <Unit193> `bzr branch lp:ubiquity`  to get it.
[03:49] <jumapico> trying...
[03:51] <Unit193> May take a while.  Do you want to view it online?  The site tends to be a little on the slower side, but you can if you'd like.
[03:51] <jumapico> no, i want write a preseed file
[03:51] <jumapico> currently i have issues with the partman step
[03:52] <jumapico> i want check the code, due i can't found documentation about the preseed options
[03:53] <Unit193> Did you happen to find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation?
[03:54] <jumapico> yes
[03:55] <jumapico> currently i have problems with this step: http://imgur.com/Ix14Q7q
[03:56] <jumapico> Install: Installation type (in partman?)
[03:56] <jumapico> i don't know how preseed that option
[03:58] <Unit193> d-i partman-auto/method string regular  ?
[03:59] <Unit193> d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda  too perhaps, or the like.
[04:00] <jumapico> nope :(
[04:02] <jumapico> i'm using this preseed as base: http://pastebin.com/dW3q8aZs
[04:03] <Unit193> Line 33?
[04:04] <jumapico> A typo error, yes. It is ignored, (i think), as line 57
[04:04] <jumapico> (invalid/unknown options)
[04:05] <Unit193> partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic
[04:06] <jumapico> yes, i miss it in this version. Maybe is best rewrite the file, with the steps needed to partman. Give me a sec
[04:06] <jumapico> (mins...)
[04:07] <Unit193> Since ubiquity is supposed to use the same as d-i, I'm basing off of http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/example-preseed.txt
[04:08] <Unit193> I'd say not a lot of us in here use preseeds much, if you can't get it with that, I'd recommend #ubuntu-desktop or #ubuntu-installer.
[04:10] <Unit193> Hah, yeeeah. :P
[04:10] <jumapico> yes, i try that example, but the xubuntu desktop installer adds some steps 
[04:11] <Unit193> Indeed.
[04:14] <jumapico> Unit193, with this partial preseed i can't pass the install screen: http://pastebin.com/ZYm7dmXn
[04:14] <jumapico> based in the example-preseed.txt
[04:21] <jumapico> now i search in the file ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py, i think that the step is stepPartAsk (from autopilot/ubiquity_autopilot_tests/configs/english_label_conf.py)
[04:39] <jumapico> Unit193, thanks for your help! (i need rest for today, tomorrow i hope resolve the problem!)
[04:39] <Unit193> jumapico: Heh, sure.  Good luck!
[04:40] <Unit193> bluesabre, ochosi: Will this help?  http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?id=ea9c3ae7644bcf118b5c66f52c75ec5396746e42
[05:30] <Unit193> bluesabre: Also, I have an xfce4-places-plugin I can sell you.
[05:31] <Unit193> Same place.
[05:35] <Unit193> Pushed new pulseaudio plugin too, git and ppa.
[06:40] <Unit193> FWIW, xfce4-places-plugin-1.7.0 still fails with gcc5. :D
[07:45] <ochosi> Unit193: i'm not sure what you mean, but if you're referring to the offscreen windows bug in ubiquity, that was already fixed by xfwm4 4.12
[07:46] <ochosi> but yeah, i talked to olivier about that yesterday and he said he would rewrite some of the struts code
[07:51] <elfy> morning peeps
[07:51] <Unit193> Peeper peep.
[08:12] <elfy> what's the pulseaudio plugin about? we intending to use it? test it? play with it? ignore it as an aberration? or something entirely different :)
[08:13] <ochosi> for 15.10 it could well be an indicator-sound replacement
[08:13] <ochosi> i've been working on it a bit lately
[08:13] <ochosi> it works, but still has quite a few things to be ironed out
[08:13] <ochosi> which is no surprise, first release was about 1week ago and the second one a few hrs ago
[08:16] <ochosi> elfy: btw, that xfpm crash challenge is on!
[08:17] <Unit193> I'm going with 'ignore it as an aberration'
[08:17] <ochosi> it's ready from my side so as soon as we have a package you can get down to testing it
[08:17] <elfy> ochosi: ok thanks - ignore it for a while? or? I'm happy enough to try the thing - of the 3 indicators we have currently the only one I use is sound 
[08:17] <elfy> ochosi: ok :D
[08:17] <ochosi> sure, testing it doesn't really hurt
[08:17] <ochosi> just don't double-right-click it ;)
[08:17] <Unit193> elfy: No media player controls on this one, fwiw.
[08:18]  * Unit193 hides in shame.
[08:18] <ochosi> yeah, at least not yet
[08:18] <elfy> Unit193: :)
[08:18] <Unit193> "Why would anyone do that?"  "I don't know, ask Unit 193"
[08:23] <elfy> ochosi: ok - I'll look later - I assume it's at 'extras'
[08:23] <Unit193> Noooo, that's my funhouse.
[08:23] <ochosi> elfy: i'll ping you with a link
[08:24] <ochosi> tbh i'd prefer if you test it first and we only make it available to a wider audience via -staging after that
[08:24] <elfy> ochosi: okey doke
[08:24] <ochosi> if we do that, i'll bump the versioning to 1.5
[08:24] <Unit193> elfy: You good with unit193/staging for now?
[08:24] <elfy> Unit193: :p
[08:24] <elfy> I'm good with whatever people say its' "here" :D
[08:40] <Unit193> Well that's where it is.
[08:42] <ochosi> failed to build?
[08:42] <ochosi> oh, only utopic
[08:42] <ochosi> so that's ok
[08:42] <Unit193> No?
[08:42] <Unit193> Ah yeah, upower, didn't bother.
[08:42] <ochosi> yeah, nvm
[08:43] <ochosi> this is targetted at gtk3.14, so no utopic
[08:56] <ochosi> elfy: so lemme know how it goes, i just installed it successfully from Unit193's staging ppa and it works smoothly
[10:53] <slickymasterWork> did you had time to see my MP to the slideshow? And also, the screenshots?
[10:53] <slickymasterWork> knome: ^^
[10:53] <knome> i've seen them, but not processed
[10:53] <slickymasterWork> ok
[13:13] <elfy> ochosi: mmm - I thought you were talking about the pa plugin :D
[13:14] <ochosi> nope, xfpm is there now
[13:14] <elfy> yep just grabbing it now
[13:20] <ochosi> cool
[13:22] <elfy> show system tray icon enabled - doesn't show though
[13:23] <ochosi> wfm
[13:23] <ochosi> but i have to admit that will likely be dropped anyway
[13:23] <elfy> lol
[13:23] <ochosi> but it should work
[13:23] <ochosi> as i said, wfm
[13:24] <elfy> definitely isn't here
[13:24] <ochosi> you could do "xfce4-panel -q; xfce4-panel" in the terminal
[13:24] <ochosi> maybe there's some output
[13:26] <elfy> rebooted - shows now
[13:26] <ochosi> k
[13:26] <ochosi> that's ok then
[13:26] <elfy> even if it's going to be dropped :)
[13:26] <ochosi> well, we'll see
[13:27] <ochosi> maybe we'll keep it as long as gtk3 supports it somewhat
[13:32] <elfy> :)
[13:34] <ochosi> anything else?
[13:34] <ochosi> managed to break it yet? :)
[13:45] <elfy> not yet :p
[13:45] <elfy> dealing with food issues atm ;)
[13:49] <ochosi> sorry to hear you're having *issues* with food ;)
[13:52] <elfy> :D
[14:12] <krytarik> slickymaster: Just fixed all of the current issues in the ES docs translation.  knome: You might want to update this link yourself: <ulink url=\"http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/apps/ristretto\">
[14:29] <slickymasterWork> krytarik, thanks for that. tbh I thought there were all fixed
[16:11] <ochosi> elfy: so everything smooth with xfpm-gtk3 so far?
[16:12] <jjfrv8> dpkg -l xfpm*
[16:13] <jjfrv8> no excuse this time :)
[16:13] <ochosi> jjfrv8: i've just asked elfy to test xfpm's gtk3 version from Unit193 PPA to see whether things generally work ok to make it public for wider testing
[16:14] <jjfrv8> right, saw that
[16:14] <Unit193> xfpm = xfce4-power-manager for the lazy.
[16:44] <elfy> ochosi: smooth as silk unfortunately - have an ether coffee on me 
[16:45] <ochosi> hehe
[16:45] <ochosi> not sure you read, but ff brought back the -remote option in 36.0.1 :D
[16:47] <elfy> ha ha 
[17:57] <ochosi> grrr, i might not be able to make the meeting tonight :/
[17:57] <ochosi> !team | who of you will be there for tonight's meeting?
[17:58] <elfy> still not sure here 
[18:00] <Unit193> Depends, what's the question?
[18:01] <ochosi> well, if nobody can attend, i can also cancel it
[18:01] <ochosi> if ppl attend, i'd first ask one of you to chair in case i can't make it
[18:02] <Unit193> More importantly, anything on the agenda?
[18:02] <ochosi> well, those three things
[18:03] <ochosi> but i don't think any of them are really pressing at this stage
[18:03] <elfy> agree with that 
[18:03] <ochosi> too late for that now
[18:03] <ochosi> other than that, nothing special, UIF is creeping up, but we got our things sorted already
[18:04] <ochosi> unless things start to break real bad now, i think we have a good status quo
[18:04] <Unit193> Basically, that's a great time for me, but those are too late now and I don't want to discuss them anyway. :P
[18:04] <Unit193> ochosi: systemd! ;)
[18:04] <ochosi> lol, yeah, that
[18:04] <ochosi> but that happens on monday
[18:04] <ochosi> so we have the whole week to clean up after it
[18:05] <ochosi> have any of you tried it so far?
[18:05] <slickymasterWork> not sure yet also, ochosi 
[18:05] <Unit193> Nooo, not at all.  I haven't been testing and using it since trusty.
[18:06] <ochosi> haha
[18:06] <ochosi> Unit193: so what should we expect? havoc and mayhem?
[18:06] <ochosi> slickymasterWork: ok, thanks, good to know
[18:06] <ochosi> friday night was a really bad idea :/
[18:06] <slickymasterWork> :)
[18:06] <Unit193> ochosi: Worst case, you'll merely have to hard power-off. :P
[18:07] <ochosi> :D
[18:07] <ochosi> great
[18:10] <Unit193> Only a problem somewhere in the stack, policykit/logind/systemd got out of sync, wouldn't let you poweroff, suspend, shutdown.  A couple times it would be only with the admin password, and those times wouldn't let you mount without it either.  But hopefully those are all behind now.
[18:10] <ochosi> cool
[18:10] <ochosi> yeah, hopefully
[18:10] <ochosi> otherwise they *hopefully* wouldn't push it
[18:21] <elfy> well suspend shutdown is working here :)
[18:21] <ochosi> that's good news i guess :)
[18:22] <elfy> :)
[18:22] <elfy> as far as meeting is concerned nothing that can't be put off
[18:22] <ochosi> alright
[18:23] <elfy> saves me typing stuff into a pad for you too :D
[18:23] <ochosi> then i'll try to schedule one for mon or tue around noon
[18:23] <ochosi> wat, pad?
[18:23] <ochosi> release notes for b2?
[18:23] <elfy> no ... what I would have said in the meeting :)
[18:24] <ochosi> ah, hehe
[18:25] <ochosi> alrighty, gotta run
[18:25] <elfy> cya - have a good one
[18:26] <ochosi> if i'm not back for the meeting and nobody else wants to chair, i'll schedule a new one
[18:26] <ochosi> sorry for the mess
[18:26] <ochosi> cyall
[19:00] <Noskcaj> ochosi, I'll be around for the meeting. it's 2100, isn't it?
[19:16] <elfy> Noskcaj: the meeting is 2100 but no telling who's going to be around 
[19:16] <elfy> likely ochosi won't be either
[19:16] <elfy> and hi elky :p
[19:16] <elky> hi
[20:18] <Unit193> andrzejr: Howdy.  So haven't filed it yet, but with xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin all you have to do to crash it is double right click on it.
[20:22] <andrzejr> Unit193, cannot reproduce it. What version do you use?
[20:23] <Unit193> 0.2.0.  Try left clicking first, then right double clicking.
[20:25] <andrzejr> nope, can you run:
[20:25] <andrzejr> PANEL_DEBUG=gdb xfce4-panel
[20:25] <andrzejr> ?
[20:25] <andrzejr> you should see a stacktrace in /tmp
[20:26] <andrzejr> also, does the slider work for you? ochosi was reporting some problems with new gtk3
[20:31] <andrzejr> Unit193?
[20:32] <Unit193> Hello!
[20:32] <Unit193> I'm updating another system now to pull it in, I was on another computer testing and this one isn't on vivid nor does it use pulse.
[20:35] <andrzejr> I see, please let me know if you find something more
[20:39] <Unit193> andrzejr: Slider is a bit broken, or rather unusably broken.
[20:39] <andrzejr> what exactly do you see?
[20:40] <andrzejr> (it works fine here on gtk3.12)
[20:40] <Unit193> http://unit193.net/1425674377_gdb_pulseaudio_9.log  When you click it, it jumps, drag it and it's several steps or more behind you.  Click it again and it jumped to 0.
[20:41] <Unit193> Pretty sure that'll be of no use.
[20:46] <andrzejr> Unit193, can you try this patch: http://pastebin.com/n57H68aq ?
[20:47] <andrzejr> ochosi says it fixes the problem on gtk 3.14, unfortunately it breaks the slider on 3.12
[20:48] <knome> i'm around at least somehow for the meeting
[20:54] <knome> pleia2, do you want to go through the -contacts email together, or how do you want to handle it?
[20:54] <andrzejr> Unit193, when the plugin crashes, do you see anything printed to the console?
[20:54] <andrzejr> (assuming xfce4-panel was started from a terminal)
[20:56] <Unit193> Yeah, a few things.  Problem is figuring out what is from where.
[20:57] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/ql9vgdZK5I2LtFvmoAKe/ meh.
[21:02] <andrzejr> Unit193, is there any devel iso image of xubuntu 15.04? I want to reproduce these issues
[21:05] <Unit193> andrzejr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ (if I typed it right.)
[21:06] <Unit193> Figure you'll compile from source, but ppa:xubuntu-dev/extras
[21:23] <PaulW2U> 192.com
[21:23] <PaulW2U> oops :)
[23:19] <flexiondotorg_> Evening.
[23:19] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, Did you test Xubuntu 14.04.2?
[23:50] <elfy> flexiondotorg_: yes
[23:51] <elfy> why?
[23:58] <elfy> so I assume we just all carefully avoided 2100 to make ochosi feel good ? 
[23:58] <elfy> :)
[23:59] <knome> i was kind of around then
[23:59] <knome> but not earlier to tell i would..
[23:59] <elfy> I was for sure not