| valorie | Riddell: question - should I leave in reference to daily unstable PPA? | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | valorie: that's a question for sitter I guess, I'm not sure if it's maintained currently (probably not) | 00:09 |
| valorie | then I think I'll clear it all out | 00:09 |
| valorie | it's time to move people on to vivid | 00:10 |
| valorie | it is kubuntu-desktop meta-package people need to install if they ppa-purge, correct? | 00:12 |
| Riddell | valorie: yep | 00:12 |
| valorie | hmmm, why are we still supplying these? http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ | 00:17 |
| valorie | and do we want to point anybody to them | 00:17 |
| valorie | they are isos, I guess it is not a problem, but there is still neon listed there! | 00:19 |
| Riddell | valorie: the weekly isos are now based on vivid + ci packages | 00:21 |
| valorie | ok, I'll change that text also then | 00:21 |
| Riddell | valorie: I believe the neon is just a symlink to keep old links happy | 00:21 |
| valorie | sanity check on https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu please | 00:23 |
| Riddell | valorie: "Live Images of Utopic Kubuntu Plasma 5 images " can go since they're obsolete | 00:27 |
| Riddell | valorie: "Live Image of Kubuntu Utopic with Packages from Git" should say vivid not utopic | 00:28 |
| valorie | ok | 00:28 |
| valorie | done, and added bash highlighting | 00:30 |
| valorie | I'll drop a note to -devel in case there are any more corrections needed | 00:30 |
| Riddell | thanks valorie | 00:30 |
| valorie | yw | 00:30 |
| Riddell | valorie: did you get a time for kubuntu at akademy? | 00:32 |
| valorie | uh, I don't know if anything is on the official calendar yet, but didn't we decide on dates? | 00:35 |
| * valorie goes to look at logs | 00:35 | |
| valorie | couldn't find anything in logs, probably lost in that data that wasn't backup up | 00:45 |
| valorie | wasn't backed up, sheesh | 00:45 |
| valorie | I've left a query for kenny | 00:45 |
| valorie | so set up a doodle, which has 2 answers: Riddell and sitter | 00:49 |
| valorie | when I lost my data, I guess I lost my memory as well | 00:50 |
| valorie | doodle says: We'll meet Wed. morning the 29th for a half day. Then Thursday, either morning or afternoon. | 00:50 |
| valorie | last call folks, if you care | 00:51 |
| valorie | also, pizza and beer time | 00:54 |
| === mustang_ is now known as VolUTFan_ | ||
| AndChat|675444 | Hello | 02:48 |
| AndChat|675444 | valorie: ping | 02:50 |
| valorie | pong? | 02:50 |
| AndChat|675444 | valorie: I got past that bug | 02:50 |
| valorie | ah, this must be ahoneybun | 02:51 |
| AndChat|675444 | Yeah it will not let me log in | 02:51 |
| valorie | what will not let you? | 02:51 |
| AndChat|675444 | I'm logged in at home | 02:51 |
| AndChat|675444 | I'm on my one plus one | 02:51 |
| valorie | you can link accounts I believe | 02:52 |
| valorie | a bit of rigmarole however | 02:52 |
| valorie | anyway, good to hear you got around it | 02:52 |
| AndChat|675444 | Yes well you know it's me lol | 02:52 |
| AndChat|675444 | I used fdisk to partition | 02:54 |
| valorie | sad that that was necessary | 02:54 |
| AndChat|675444 | And then let the installer do the work | 02:54 |
| valorie | I hope you will follow up on the bug report | 02:54 |
| AndChat|675444 | Well I added comments | 02:54 |
| AndChat|675444 | About what I did and what I think is the problem | 02:55 |
| valorie | cool | 02:56 |
| AndChat|675444 | Yep hopefully it will get fixed soon | 02:56 |
| AndChat|675444 | Kde connect works very well | 02:57 |
| valorie | I agree | 02:57 |
| valorie | <3 kdeconnect | 02:58 |
| valorie | so glad to have it back again | 02:58 |
| valorie | now I want to be able to reply to sms here on the laptop | 02:58 |
| AndChat|675444 | Sweet | 02:58 |
| AndChat|675444 | It's cool | 03:01 |
| AndChat|675444 | valorie: I restarted the trello board | 03:01 |
| AndChat|675444 | And I edited the docs some | 03:02 |
| valorie | yes, I saw that | 03:02 |
| valorie | I always read the backlog | 03:02 |
| AndChat|675444 | That's cool that it says that | 03:02 |
| valorie | that's great, because I have zero time right now | 03:02 |
| AndChat|675444 | I'll do want I can | 03:03 |
| AndChat|675444 | I added some screenies, edited text for what works now | 03:04 |
| AndChat|675444 | Rewrote somethings | 03:04 |
| valorie | if you run into any problems, please write an email to kubuntu-devel list | 03:05 |
| valorie | actually, once you have some pages done, please report those to the list | 03:05 |
| valorie | nothing gets enthusiasm going more than some work already done | 03:06 |
| AndChat|675444 | valorie: I'll report once I have something | 03:06 |
| valorie | cool | 03:07 |
| AndChat|675444 | BTW I installed steam just fine | 03:07 |
| AndChat|675444 | With no extra work but it might be from my previous Ubuntu install | 03:08 |
| AndChat|675444 | I kept my home partition | 03:08 |
| valorie | yes, we should get a tester | 03:09 |
| valorie | I have no time for that, unfortunately | 03:09 |
| AndChat|675444 | For steam? | 03:09 |
| valorie | for our install steam page | 03:09 |
| AndChat|675444 | Oh yea | 03:09 |
| AndChat|675444 | I might end up doing a clean install to try it out | 03:10 |
| AndChat|675444 | BTW don't use driver manager yet | 03:10 |
| AndChat|675444 | It will broke your systen | 03:10 |
| valorie | is there a bug report for that> | 03:11 |
| valorie | ? | 03:11 |
| valorie | shadeslayer: ^^^ | 03:11 |
| valorie | I don't want to hear about system-breaking things! | 03:11 |
| AndChat|675444 | No | 03:13 |
| AndChat|675444 | valorie: when is akademy | 03:13 |
| valorie | last week of july | 03:13 |
| valorie | look on the Dot, it's just been announced | 03:13 |
| AndChat|675444 | Think Ubuntu would sponsor? | 03:14 |
| AndChat|675444 | Me I mean | 03:14 |
| valorie | I forgot - did you get your membership? | 03:14 |
| AndChat|675444 | Yea | 03:14 |
| valorie | then yes | 03:15 |
| AndChat|675444 | valorie: sweet | 03:15 |
| AndChat|675444 | I would Love to go | 03:15 |
| valorie | are you reading kubuntu-devel? | 03:15 |
| AndChat|675444 | And helpout | 03:15 |
| AndChat|675444 | I saw your post yea | 03:15 |
| valorie | I just asked again for feedback about our Kubuntu day | 03:15 |
| AndChat|675444 | Email I mean | 03:15 |
| valorie | cool | 03:15 |
| AndChat|675444 | Yep I want to go more events and help where I can | 03:16 |
| AndChat|675444 | BRB 2 hours, watching a movie | 03:16 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:56 |
| alket | good morning | 09:57 |
| lordievader | Hey alket | 09:57 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:02 |
| shadeslayer | would be nice to know what broke | 12:31 |
| soee | Riddell: "Experience the future with Plasma 5" ? | 12:40 |
| BluesKaj | not crazy about the future if that's the case, soee :) | 12:43 |
| yofel | the vivid future? ^^ | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj | looks not so vivid atm | 12:45 |
| soee | BluesKaj: propose anything you want :) | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | altho it seems better than it was 2 days ago | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | I miss my varied backgrounds on the the VDs | 12:46 |
| soee | ok i'm off for 4 hours | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | oops | 12:46 |
| yofel | can't say I'm too impressed with p5 either though. At least its somewhat usable by now | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, it's ok so far, but I'm hoping it has some features that are missing atm | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | in the future | 12:52 |
| * yofel removes calligra* | 12:57 | |
| yofel | Riddell: could you please look at the latest packaging bugs for calligra? calligrasheets is uninstallable and I don't really understand your splitting plan | 12:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu: ping ahoneybun | 15:50 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help ping' | 15:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | kubotu: help ping | 15:50 |
| kubotu | ping => replies with a pong | 15:50 |
| lordievader | ovidiu-florin: You can set a /notify, then your client will notify you when someone comes online. | 15:57 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: freenode has a memoserv running if you want to use it | 16:12 |
| ovidiu-florin | memoserv? | 16:14 |
| yofel | [MemoServ] MemoServ allows users to send memos to registered users. | 16:14 |
| yofel | hey'll get a notify when he comes online | 16:14 |
| mustafam | Hello everybody | 16:38 |
| mustafam | I am testing beta 1 and found some problems | 16:39 |
| mustafam | I wanted to ask about them here before reporting | 16:39 |
| mustafam | First, I use pppoe, but it is not working out of the box, I am almost sure that the newer NetworkManager requires pppoe binary | 16:40 |
| mustafam | previously it only needed ppp | 16:40 |
| mustafam | Is this known or should I report it? | 16:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | For everybodys information (FYI) I neget got PPPoE working throught he KDE GUI | 16:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | I haven't tried on the latest | 16:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | on 15.04 | 16:47 |
| mustafam | I always use it, from the connection use "Add DSL Connection" | 16:48 |
| Riddell | yofel: meh, I dont think anyone understands calligra's splitting plan :( | 17:08 |
| soee | http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-Releases-PhysX-Source-Code-Free-on-GitHub-475158.shtml | 17:20 |
| yofel | seriously O.O | 17:22 |
| soee | in my hom dir i have some epty Snapshots folde - any idea to what app it belongs ? | 17:32 |
| Riddell | yofel: the main issue is filters and do they go into calligra-libs or into the app they're relevant for | 17:59 |
| yofel | did debian have some kind of pattern there? Otherwise I would have to ask upstream whether a filter is really only used by the application whose name it carries.. | 18:01 |
| Riddell | yofel: I think debian is inconsistent too | 18:02 |
| yofel | :S | 18:02 |
| yofel | remove the file from -data for now I guess? | 18:02 |
| Riddell | yofel: they don't usually carry the name of the application | 18:03 |
| Riddell | looking in filters/ https://paste.kde.org/pfob5y7qo | 18:03 |
| yofel | well, this one does, but yeah | 18:03 |
| Riddell | there are some which are non-application specific and some which are app specific | 18:03 |
| Riddell | so I guess the packaging could follow that | 18:04 |
| alket | is kde 4.14.3 coming to 14.04 ? | 18:08 |
| Riddell | alket: we don't have the person-power for that I'm afraid | 18:11 |
| Riddell | all help appreciated of course | 18:11 |
| alket | I would help , but i don't know where to start | 18:11 |
| alket | and I assume it will take time to do that | 18:11 |
| Riddell | you'd start by learning to package | 18:16 |
| Riddell | then once you have one package mastered we have scripts to make the big releases manageable | 18:16 |
| alket | why not just get them from debian | 18:17 |
| Riddell | we do but debian and ubuntu aren't binary or source compatible so they need recompiled and rejigged | 18:19 |
| Riddell | soee: have you tried kdeconnect-kde ? | 18:33 |
| soee | Riddell: after todays update ? | 18:35 |
| Riddell | soee: yes, do you now have "kdeconnect" installed? | 18:41 |
| Riddell | and can you now open your device in dolphin and send files to your device? | 18:41 |
| Riddell | hi drawkward | 18:43 |
| soee | Riddell: yes im running it since few days, do i have to reboot to test todays update ? | 18:44 |
| Riddell | soee: the change is that "kdeconnect" is back as well as "kdeconnect-plasma" | 18:48 |
| Riddell | soee: this means you should be able to open your device in dolphin and send files to it | 18:48 |
| soee | Riddell: yes i can browse Camera photos and All files directories, i can upload or download files to phone | 18:53 |
| soee | though if i open gallery on my phone, the photos list isn't updated | 18:54 |
| soee | probably some cache on phone | 18:54 |
| Riddell | lovely | 19:09 |
| Riddell | thanks | 19:09 |
| Riddell | hmm, we don't really track packaging on trello, I wonder why not | 19:22 |
| soee | any progress with lo ions ? | 19:23 |
| soee | *icons | 19:23 |
| yofel | because we have a working way to track packaging that also works with the rest of ubuntu, so why change it? | 19:24 |
| Riddell | yofel: what's that? | 19:25 |
| Riddell | soee: lo icons? | 19:26 |
| yofel | Riddell: bugs? | 19:26 |
| soee | Riddell: libre office breeze icons | 19:26 |
| Riddell | soee: still on my todo list | 19:26 |
| Riddell | yofel: right, I just wonder if the big releases, frameworks, plasma and applications would fit better into trello items | 19:27 |
| yofel | Riddell: hm.... a while ago sitter did make deadline items on trello for those (didn't we have a seperate deadline board?) - maybe he gave up | 19:29 |
| yofel | yeah, seems like he gave up on the idea for vivid | 19:30 |
| Riddell | I might add them and see how it works | 19:31 |
| Riddell | d__ed: you're famous lwn.net/Articles/635781/ | 19:31 |
| Riddell | hi KDDA | 19:34 |
| KDDA | hi Riddell | 19:34 |
| KDDA | any craic? | 19:34 |
| Riddell | 267 unread e-mails, that's crack enough! | 19:39 |
| KDDA | popular man! | 19:41 |
| d__ed | Riddell: thanks! yeah, it's weird wasn't a particularly amazing article, and I'm mostly just leeching off some Qt work | 19:41 |
| Riddell | d__ed: aye but big difference to users :) | 19:42 |
| d__ed | only posh users | 19:44 |
| VolUTFan | Does anyone have an example I can look at of how to go about scripting auto creation of a empty panel and adding shortcuts to it for Plasma4. I am Trying to streamline installation of workstation | 19:55 |
| Riddell | VolUTFan: plasma scripting is something that I always find confusing, javascript plus a fairly opaque api | 20:01 |
| Riddell | VolUTFan: examples in dpkg -L kubuntu-settings-desktop | grep js | 20:02 |
| VolUTFan | Riddell: thanks, I will read that | 20:02 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.defaultPanel/contents/layout.js | 20:02 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js | 20:02 |
| Riddell | https://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting | 20:02 |
| VolUTFan | awesome | 20:03 |
| VolUTFan | thanks a bunch Riddell | 20:03 |
| Riddell | valorie: you're famous too :) http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/07/1811253/kde-accepted-to-google-summer-of-code-2015 | 20:20 |
| Riddell | not sure why that's news to anyone but kde but always nice to make slashdot | 20:20 |
| KDDA | are there any Kubuntu applications that can stream to Chromecast? | 20:51 |
| Riddell | probably not unless it uses a standard protocol | 20:54 |
| valorie | very nice - would be cool to have some Murrican gsoc applicants | 21:55 |
| * alket hides | 21:56 | |
| Quintasan | Hmm | 21:56 |
| Quintasan | It's either SoC or some kind of work for me | 21:56 |
| * Quintasan looks at projects | 21:56 | |
| ahoneybun | hey all | 22:00 |
| Quintasan | Hi | 22:01 |
| ahoneybun | hey Quintasan | 22:02 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: propose a "fix kubuntu" project :) | 22:08 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: That would require at least 10 more people :D | 22:08 |
| Quintasan | >Project: Port Ubiquity to Qt 5 | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | This means I have to learn python | 22:11 |
| Riddell | a very worthy things to do (and not hard) | 22:13 |
| Riddell | and also it's easy to do so it would leave several weeks to fix kubuntu | 22:14 |
| prth | Riddell, I'm interested in "Port Ubiquity to Qt 5". i sent u an email, could you please point me to the bugs I can solve for this project? | 22:22 |
| Riddell | hi prth | 22:26 |
| Riddell | welcome to irc | 22:26 |
| prth | hi | 22:26 |
| Riddell | maybe bug 1429461 wouldn't be too hard | 22:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1429461 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "manual parition new/change dialog should pre-select filetype" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1429461 | 22:26 |
| Riddell | or bug 1350855 | 22:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350855 | 22:26 |
| prth | Riddell, cool, thanks | 22:27 |
| Riddell | hacking on an installer is difficult, be careful not to format your hard disk (use a usb drive maybe) | 22:28 |
| Riddell | this blog post should help http://agateau.com/2013/hacking-on-ubiquity-the-setup/ | 22:28 |
| valorie | Quintasan: it would be lovely to have you as an applicant | 22:30 |
| prth | prth yeah i was afraid of that too. thanks :) | 22:30 |
| alket | is kde 4 in maintenance mode ? | 22:32 |
| alket | like only bug fixes ? | 22:32 |
| yofel | yes | 22:32 |
| alket | for how long ? | 22:32 |
| yofel | workspace (plasma 2) until August | 22:37 |
| yofel | applications... you have to use current I believe | 22:39 |
| yofel | Riddell: ^ ? | 22:39 |
| Riddell | yep | 22:52 |
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