[00:08] Riddell: question - should I leave in reference to daily unstable PPA? [00:09] valorie: that's a question for sitter I guess, I'm not sure if it's maintained currently (probably not) [00:09] then I think I'll clear it all out [00:10] it's time to move people on to vivid [00:12] it is kubuntu-desktop meta-package people need to install if they ppa-purge, correct? [00:12] valorie: yep [00:17] hmmm, why are we still supplying these? http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ [00:17] and do we want to point anybody to them [00:19] they are isos, I guess it is not a problem, but there is still neon listed there! [00:21] valorie: the weekly isos are now based on vivid + ci packages [00:21] ok, I'll change that text also then [00:21] valorie: I believe the neon is just a symlink to keep old links happy [00:23] sanity check on https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu please [00:27] valorie: "Live Images of Utopic Kubuntu Plasma 5 images " can go since they're obsolete [00:28] valorie: "Live Image of Kubuntu Utopic with Packages from Git" should say vivid not utopic [00:28] ok [00:30] done, and added bash highlighting [00:30] I'll drop a note to -devel in case there are any more corrections needed [00:30] thanks valorie [00:30] yw [00:32] valorie: did you get a time for kubuntu at akademy? [00:35] uh, I don't know if anything is on the official calendar yet, but didn't we decide on dates? [00:35] * valorie goes to look at logs [00:45] couldn't find anything in logs, probably lost in that data that wasn't backup up [00:45] wasn't backed up, sheesh [00:45] I've left a query for kenny [00:49] so set up a doodle, which has 2 answers: Riddell and sitter [00:50] when I lost my data, I guess I lost my memory as well [00:50] doodle says: We'll meet Wed. morning the 29th for a half day. Then Thursday, either morning or afternoon. [00:51] last call folks, if you care [00:54] also, pizza and beer time === mustang_ is now known as VolUTFan_ [02:48] Hello [02:50] valorie: ping [02:50] pong? [02:50] valorie: I got past that bug [02:51] ah, this must be ahoneybun [02:51] Yeah it will not let me log in [02:51] what will not let you? [02:51] I'm logged in at home [02:51] I'm on my one plus one [02:52] you can link accounts I believe [02:52] a bit of rigmarole however [02:52] anyway, good to hear you got around it [02:52] Yes well you know it's me lol [02:54] I used fdisk to partition [02:54] sad that that was necessary [02:54] And then let the installer do the work [02:54] I hope you will follow up on the bug report [02:54] Well I added comments [02:55] About what I did and what I think is the problem [02:56] cool [02:56] Yep hopefully it will get fixed soon [02:57] Kde connect works very well [02:57] I agree [02:58] <3 kdeconnect [02:58] so glad to have it back again [02:58] now I want to be able to reply to sms here on the laptop [02:58] Sweet [03:01] It's cool [03:01] valorie: I restarted the trello board [03:02] And I edited the docs some [03:02] yes, I saw that [03:02] I always read the backlog [03:02] That's cool that it says that [03:02] that's great, because I have zero time right now [03:03] I'll do want I can [03:04] I added some screenies, edited text for what works now [03:04] Rewrote somethings [03:05] if you run into any problems, please write an email to kubuntu-devel list [03:05] actually, once you have some pages done, please report those to the list [03:06] nothing gets enthusiasm going more than some work already done [03:06] valorie: I'll report once I have something [03:07] cool [03:07] BTW I installed steam just fine [03:08] With no extra work but it might be from my previous Ubuntu install [03:08] I kept my home partition [03:09] yes, we should get a tester [03:09] I have no time for that, unfortunately [03:09] For steam? [03:09] for our install steam page [03:09] Oh yea [03:10] I might end up doing a clean install to try it out [03:10] BTW don't use driver manager yet [03:10] It will broke your systen [03:11] is there a bug report for that> [03:11] ? [03:11] shadeslayer: ^^^ [03:11] I don't want to hear about system-breaking things! [03:13] No [03:13] valorie: when is akademy [03:13] last week of july [03:13] look on the Dot, it's just been announced [03:14] Think Ubuntu would sponsor? [03:14] Me I mean [03:14] I forgot - did you get your membership? [03:14] Yea [03:15] then yes [03:15] valorie: sweet [03:15] I would Love to go [03:15] are you reading kubuntu-devel? [03:15] And helpout [03:15] I saw your post yea [03:15] I just asked again for feedback about our Kubuntu day [03:15] Email I mean [03:15] cool [03:16] Yep I want to go more events and help where I can [03:16] BRB 2 hours, watching a movie [09:56] Good morning. [09:57] good morning [09:57] Hey alket [11:02] 'Morning folks [12:31] would be nice to know what broke [12:40] Riddell: "Experience the future with Plasma 5" ? [12:43] not crazy about the future if that's the case, soee :) [12:43] the vivid future? ^^ [12:45] looks not so vivid atm [12:45] BluesKaj: propose anything you want :) [12:45] altho it seems better than it was 2 days ago [12:46] I miss my varied backgrounds on the the VDs [12:46] ok i'm off for 4 hours [12:46] oops [12:48] can't say I'm too impressed with p5 either though. At least its somewhat usable by now [12:52] yeah, it's ok so far, but I'm hoping it has some features that are missing atm [12:52] in the future [12:57] * yofel removes calligra* [12:58] Riddell: could you please look at the latest packaging bugs for calligra? calligrasheets is uninstallable and I don't really understand your splitting plan [15:50] kubotu: ping ahoneybun [15:50] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help ping' [15:50] kubotu: help ping [15:50] ping => replies with a pong [15:57] ovidiu-florin: You can set a /notify, then your client will notify you when someone comes online. [16:12] ovidiu-florin: freenode has a memoserv running if you want to use it [16:14] memoserv? [16:14] [MemoServ] MemoServ allows users to send memos to registered users. [16:14] hey'll get a notify when he comes online [16:38] Hello everybody [16:39] I am testing beta 1 and found some problems [16:39] I wanted to ask about them here before reporting [16:40] First, I use pppoe, but it is not working out of the box, I am almost sure that the newer NetworkManager requires pppoe binary [16:40] previously it only needed ppp [16:40] Is this known or should I report it? [16:46] For everybodys information (FYI) I neget got PPPoE working throught he KDE GUI [16:47] I haven't tried on the latest [16:47] on 15.04 [16:48] I always use it, from the connection use "Add DSL Connection" [17:08] yofel: meh, I dont think anyone understands calligra's splitting plan :( [17:20] http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDIA-Releases-PhysX-Source-Code-Free-on-GitHub-475158.shtml [17:22] seriously O.O [17:32] in my hom dir i have some epty Snapshots folde - any idea to what app it belongs ? [17:59] yofel: the main issue is filters and do they go into calligra-libs or into the app they're relevant for [18:01] did debian have some kind of pattern there? Otherwise I would have to ask upstream whether a filter is really only used by the application whose name it carries.. [18:02] yofel: I think debian is inconsistent too [18:02] :S [18:02] remove the file from -data for now I guess? [18:03] yofel: they don't usually carry the name of the application [18:03] looking in filters/ https://paste.kde.org/pfob5y7qo [18:03] well, this one does, but yeah [18:03] there are some which are non-application specific and some which are app specific [18:04] so I guess the packaging could follow that [18:08] is kde 4.14.3 coming to 14.04 ? [18:11] alket: we don't have the person-power for that I'm afraid [18:11] all help appreciated of course [18:11] I would help , but i don't know where to start [18:11] and I assume it will take time to do that [18:16] you'd start by learning to package [18:16] then once you have one package mastered we have scripts to make the big releases manageable [18:17] why not just get them from debian [18:19] we do but debian and ubuntu aren't binary or source compatible so they need recompiled and rejigged [18:33] soee: have you tried kdeconnect-kde ? [18:35] Riddell: after todays update ? [18:41] soee: yes, do you now have "kdeconnect" installed? [18:41] and can you now open your device in dolphin and send files to your device? [18:43] hi drawkward [18:44] Riddell: yes im running it since few days, do i have to reboot to test todays update ? [18:48] soee: the change is that "kdeconnect" is back as well as "kdeconnect-plasma" [18:48] soee: this means you should be able to open your device in dolphin and send files to it [18:53] Riddell: yes i can browse Camera photos and All files directories, i can upload or download files to phone [18:54] though if i open gallery on my phone, the photos list isn't updated [18:54] probably some cache on phone [19:09] lovely [19:09] thanks [19:22] hmm, we don't really track packaging on trello, I wonder why not [19:23] any progress with lo ions ? [19:23] *icons [19:24] because we have a working way to track packaging that also works with the rest of ubuntu, so why change it? [19:25] yofel: what's that? [19:26] soee: lo icons? [19:26] Riddell: bugs? [19:26] Riddell: libre office breeze icons [19:26] soee: still on my todo list [19:27] yofel: right, I just wonder if the big releases, frameworks, plasma and applications would fit better into trello items [19:29] Riddell: hm.... a while ago sitter did make deadline items on trello for those (didn't we have a seperate deadline board?) - maybe he gave up [19:30] yeah, seems like he gave up on the idea for vivid [19:31] I might add them and see how it works [19:31] d__ed: you're famous lwn.net/Articles/635781/ [19:34] hi KDDA [19:34] hi Riddell [19:34] any craic? [19:39] 267 unread e-mails, that's crack enough! [19:41] popular man! [19:41] Riddell: thanks! yeah, it's weird wasn't a particularly amazing article, and I'm mostly just leeching off some Qt work [19:42] d__ed: aye but big difference to users :) [19:44] only posh users [19:55] Does anyone have an example I can look at of how to go about scripting auto creation of a empty panel and adding shortcuts to it for Plasma4. I am Trying to streamline installation of workstation [20:01] VolUTFan: plasma scripting is something that I always find confusing, javascript plus a fairly opaque api [20:02] VolUTFan: examples in dpkg -L kubuntu-settings-desktop | grep js [20:02] Riddell: thanks, I will read that [20:02] /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.defaultPanel/contents/layout.js [20:02] /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/layout.js [20:02] https://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting [20:03] awesome [20:03] thanks a bunch Riddell [20:20] valorie: you're famous too :) http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/07/1811253/kde-accepted-to-google-summer-of-code-2015 [20:20] not sure why that's news to anyone but kde but always nice to make slashdot [20:51] are there any Kubuntu applications that can stream to Chromecast? [20:54] probably not unless it uses a standard protocol [21:55] very nice - would be cool to have some Murrican gsoc applicants [21:56] * alket hides [21:56] Hmm [21:56] It's either SoC or some kind of work for me [21:56] * Quintasan looks at projects [22:00] hey all [22:01] Hi [22:02] hey Quintasan [22:08] Quintasan: propose a "fix kubuntu" project :) [22:08] Riddell: That would require at least 10 more people :D [22:10] >Project: Port Ubiquity to Qt 5 [22:11] This means I have to learn python [22:13] a very worthy things to do (and not hard) [22:14] and also it's easy to do so it would leave several weeks to fix kubuntu [22:22] Riddell, I'm interested in "Port Ubiquity to Qt 5". i sent u an email, could you please point me to the bugs I can solve for this project? [22:26] hi prth [22:26] welcome to irc [22:26] hi [22:26] maybe bug 1429461 wouldn't be too hard [22:26] bug 1429461 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "manual parition new/change dialog should pre-select filetype" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1429461 [22:26] or bug 1350855 [22:26] bug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350855 [22:27] Riddell, cool, thanks [22:28] hacking on an installer is difficult, be careful not to format your hard disk (use a usb drive maybe) [22:28] this blog post should help http://agateau.com/2013/hacking-on-ubiquity-the-setup/ [22:30] Quintasan: it would be lovely to have you as an applicant [22:30] prth yeah i was afraid of that too. thanks :) [22:32] is kde 4 in maintenance mode ? [22:32] like only bug fixes ? [22:32] yes [22:32] for how long ? [22:37] workspace (plasma 2) until August [22:39] applications... you have to use current I believe [22:39] Riddell: ^ ? [22:52] yep