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Kilosmorning peeps05:51
Kilosha these qwe peeps come from our site06:36
* Trixar_za just shakes head07:21
Kiloswassup Trixar_za  07:22
Trixar_zaSo my dad's micro-sim came lose in his 3G modem. His solution was to cut it out. He has two of them.07:22
Kilossjoe07:23
Trixar_zaAnd when I say cut out, it's the whole panel in the 3G modem that covers the sim07:23
Kilosoh my goodness07:23
Trixar_zaHis reasoning was it didn't work anyway, so it didn't matter07:23
Kiloshahaha07:23
Trixar_zaIt works. I'm using it now.07:23
Trixar_zaHad to fashion a panel from tape, but it works07:23
Trixar_zaThis poor thing has survived a trip through the wash and no blatent destruction07:25
Kiloslol07:25
Trixar_zaI also think he's younger than you Kilos - lol :P07:27
Kiloshahaha07:27
Kilosnot everyone is practical07:27
Trixar_zaWhy he couldn't just have used a precision set's mini flat screw driver, I don't know :/07:27
Kilosmodems can be rather frustrating at times when it comes to changing sims07:28
Trixar_zaYeah. The sim looks like a dog got hold of it though07:29
Kiloslol07:29
inetproTrixar_za: take a photo09:21
inetprogood mornings09:21
Kilosmorning inetpro  09:21
Trixar_zainetpro: http://tinypic.com/r/eqwl0i/810:06
inetproTrixar_za: yikes!10:07
Trixar_zaWas a slight pain to get a makeshift cover thing going10:08
Trixar_zaBut luckly I just slid in two thin bits of cardboard under the remaining parts. Then I just put some tape on top of it to keep it pressed down.10:09
inetproVivid will switch to booting with systemd next Monday, brace for impact10:15
inetprohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-March/001130.html10:16
inetprosad day10:16
Trixar_zaThis is why I like that SliTaz used Busybox's init10:17
Trixar_zaliked*10:18
inetproprobably means I will have to start looking into systemd10:18
SquirmHello10:33
SquirmThatGraemeGuy ?10:34
SquirmHekk10:34
SquirmHello10:34
SquirmMaaz: coffee on10:34
* Maaz flips the salt-timer10:34
SquirmMaaz: large10:34
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Squirm10:34
* Squirm pokes Trixar_za10:34
Kiloshi Squirm  10:34
Trixar_zaHey Squirm10:34
Trixar_zaYou see the pic?10:34
Trixar_zahttp://tinypic.com/r/eqwl0i/810:35
Trixar_za:P10:35
KilosThatGraemeGuy  got no telkom lines again10:35
KilosMaaz  coffee please10:35
MaazKilos: Alrighty10:35
SquirmNice one Trixar_za10:35
Trixar_zaMy dad did that. With scissors10:35
SquirmAh10:35
SquirmBut why>10:35
Squirm?10:35
SquirmKilos: ok10:35
Trixar_zaHe thought it was broken and the microsim got loose from the container card thing10:36
Trixar_zaSo instead of using a precision flat, he cut it open10:37
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!10:38
Squirm^^10:38
KilosMaaz  danke10:38
MaazBitteschön10:38
SquirmTrixar_za: nice :P10:38
Trixar_zaGot it to work again. I think I'm keeping it. He also just did it for the free 100MB he gets per month on the sim, but he hurt the sim in the extraction process10:39
magellanicinetpro: you prefer upstart then :p10:44
Trixar_zaupstart is great :P10:47
SquirmI prefer upstart10:51
SquirmBut I still feel Ubuntu is kind of mixed between the two :/10:52
magellanicwell they're switching over to systemd10:53
inetpromagellanic: I like it when I can inspect the scripts for myself whenever I want 11:07
inetproand tweak if really necessary 11:07
inetprobut it's a mixed bag, let's see how it goes with systemd 11:09
inetprowill be interesting 11:09
inetproI just hope that freedom will still prevail in the end 11:11
Kiloshi mopkop  11:29
mopkopHello everyone!11:29
SquirmHas anyone got anything interesting running on their free Amazon ec2 instance?11:45
magespawngood afternoon12:04
Maazmagespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn http://www.zdnet.com/article/companies-really-want-linux-savvy-employees-and-they-want-them-now/" 2 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes and 2 seconds ago12:04
mopkopHello magespawn!12:08
Kilosohi magespawn  12:09
mopkopWhat do you think? http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2015/03/02/jihadi-john-tried-to-enter-sa12:33
captinehi all..13:02
Kiloshi captine  13:12
captinehey  there.  how things going?  13:16
captinebe away a while13:16
Kilosyeah where did you go13:16
captinedaughter was born... been tired...13:20
Kilosoh ya , congrats man13:20
captinethnx13:21
magespawnnice one captine 13:27
magespawnexit14:04
Kiloshi arnaudmez  14:18
arnaudmezhi Kilo14:19
arnaudmezhi Kilos14:19
Kiloshi gremble_  14:19
gremble_hey arnaudmez 14:19
arnaudmezhi gremble_: 14:20
gremble_Hello Kilos 14:20
magellaniccongrats captine 14:33
magellanicinetpro: understandable, I like the idea though, of a binary only boot process, no slow shelly things :p14:33
magellanicSquirm: there's a free instance offering now?14:34
Squirmmagellanic: Yes15:24
Squirmyou get the t2.micro for a year15:25
SquirmVery basic15:25
SquirmBut free none-the-less15:25
Squirmanyway, I'm out. Enjoy the evenenings15:25
magellanicyou too, enjoy15:25
Kiloshi Private_User  superfly  16:38
Private_Userhi Kilos16:38
Private_Userso Kilos, did you get kicked out of the channel you created?16:41
Private_Userhehe16:41
Private_UserKilos:  i.e. ##ubuntu-za-social?16:41
Kilosoh my16:41
Private_UserI never see you on there Kilos16:42
Kilosya i was low on data so closed some down and didnt activate them again when data came16:42
Private_Userah ok16:42
Kilosits only us that ever chats there16:43
Kilosi have #ubuntu-locoteams and #ubuntu-africa open all the time too16:43
Kilosi had actually forgotten about it al together16:44
Private_Userget this package I have the 200Giga from CellC it comes with 50GB peak data and 150GB nite surfer(00:00 - 06:00) valid for 12 months so all this is once of you will have to manage the data usage cause if you go wild and start downloading like crazy and finish before the end of 365 days then you will have to buy another and its like R1799 once off but there is another one with 100GB once of any time data valid for 365 days but16:48
Private_UserOI guess the only issue is the fund to purchase the package16:48
Kilosyeah16:49
Kilosi use a telkom 2+1 every 2 months16:49
Kilosi dont download stuff16:49
Private_Userbut it serves the purpose for me I download stuff as well during Nite Surfing time16:49
Kiloslol16:49
Kilosi have been too busy trying to learn bzr and nikola to build static sites with16:50
Private_Userah ok I guess if you do not download stuff and just browse the net check emails and maybe chat online then what you have is not too bad16:50
Kilosna R149 every 2 months is good for me16:51
Kilosi use my upgrading with the night surfer16:51
Private_Userok16:51
Private_Userok cool16:52
inetprowb barrydk17:48
inetproai!17:49
inetproStormers 10 - 10 Sharks17:50
Kilosya17:50
inetprotough game17:51
Kilosya them cape oks woken up ththis year17:51
barrydkHi everyone18:03
Kiloshi barrydk  18:03
Kilosai! 26/13. kaapenare eet ons18:43
* inetpro keeps quiet about rugby 18:45
Kiloshaha18:45
Kilos<inetpro> Stormers 10 - 10 Sharks  ???18:46
inetpronot having a good weekend with my teams 18:46
Kilosyou bang they ungeek you?18:46
Kilosah18:46
Kilosai!18:47
Kilosno time to catch up with 14 players18:48
inetpromore salt in the wound 18:49
Kilosyeah18:49
inetproit hurts man 18:50
Kilosi know it burns like hell18:50
Kilosbetter to look at the cheerleaders18:50
Kilosai!18:52
Kilosback to the drawing board18:52
inetproneed a different team 18:52
Kilosno man the team is good but the sjambok is too min18:53
Kilosoi18:54
inetproI don't talk about it 18:55
Kiloshaha18:57
Kilosive even forgotten how to craft things in minetest18:58
Kilosif i try work the team reports and break something can you fix it inetpro  ?18:59
Kilosdoesnt seem like neelsie is gonna get to it19:00
inetprowhich link? 19:00
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports19:00
inetprohmm...19:03
inetprogo for it19:03
Kilosmany months with no reports19:03
Kilossad19:03
inetproai! 19:08
inetprothe wiki is superslow!19:08
Kilosya19:08
Kilosgave up with opera , chrome goes into edit mode quick19:08
inetproserious!?19:09
Kilosya19:09
Kilos15 secs and in19:09
inetprodon't think it has anything to do with the browser19:12
Kilosi have no idea19:12
Kilosbut chrome is much faster in the wiki19:13
Kiloshere by me anyway19:13
Kilosive already added a bit and saved19:13
Kilosgoing back to edit now19:14
Kilosin19:14
Kilosvery fast19:14
Kilosmaybe its because my opera has 20 tabs open19:15
inetproit's all about the timing19:21
inetprosometimes you be lucky, other time less so19:21
Kilosok19:21
Kilosmy opera was still trying after 5 mins when chrome just went in19:22
Kilosso what was blocking opera19:22
inetproKilos: wait19:22
inetproyou're doing it wrong19:22
Kilosya i see sometrhing funny happening there19:23
Kilosdoes it add each month on its own19:23
inetproFullSearchCached(title:ZATeam/TeamReports/14 goes and effectively pulls in 2014 reports19:23
inetproso you don't actua;;y modify ZATeam/TeamReports19:24
Kilosoh so do you just make one for feb under current19:24
inetproactually19:24
inetpromodify ZATeam/TeamReports/1419:24
inetpromodify ZATeam/TeamReports/1519:24
Kiloshuh both of them?19:25
inetprono sorry19:25
inetprolast one19:25
inetprowb SubOracle19:25
inetprooops19:25
Kiloslol19:25
inetprowb superfly19:25
Kiloswb superfly  19:25
inetproKilos: I will undo your edit19:26
superflyta19:26
superflydata centre maintenance - all the hosts needed a reboot19:26
Kilosty i see it adds minutes there on its own19:26
Kilosi was worrying about where to go find them19:27
Kiloswhile you there add jan too please19:27
inetprook19:29
Kilosty19:29
magellanicgreets19:29
magellanicsuperfly: sounds like aws reboots? :p19:29
Kiloshi magellanic  why dont you volunteer for team reports man19:30
magellanicI see Dale's video was featured by google-developers on g+ :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uIUBnmWD9Y19:30
magellanicKilos: what's that?19:30
Kilosmagellanic  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports#preview19:30
Kilosim too old for all this new stuff19:31
magellanicI have nothing to report Kilos :p19:32
Kiloshahaha19:32
Kilosevery month after our meetings man19:33
inetproKilos: it's actually much easier than I thought19:33
magellanictoo lazy for that Kilos :p19:34
Kilosthats good inetpro  , the job is yours now19:34
Kilosnono magellanic  we not allowed to be lazy when it comes to ubuntu team stuff19:34
magellanicI also don't lik,e wiki's in general :/19:35
magellaniclike*19:35
Kiloswho does19:35
superflymagellanic: no, Linode. There was some Xen thingie they needed to do19:35
superflyhttp://status.linode.com/incidents/2dyvn29ds5mz19:36
magellanicsecurity patches I guess19:36
superflymagellanic: did you see that Dale's interviewy thing is up on YouTube?19:36
superflygah, didn't see you mention it earlier... hehe19:37
magellanicyes, google-developers featured it on g+19:37
magellanic:)19:37
superflyNN is going to media-bomb it on Monday19:37
magellaniclol19:37
magellanicnice19:37
magellanicI'll reshare it on gdg cape towns page too19:38
superflyIt was really funny, as Dale was talking, I knew exactly *who* he was referencing :-)19:38
superflymagellanic: did you ever see his ScaleConf 2013 talk ?19:38
magellanichahah19:39
magellanicvery cool19:39
magellanicwe're planning on doing more of those type vids19:39
superflyyeah19:39
superflyIt looked good, but was rather disjointed19:40
magellanicfirst one :p we'll improve..19:40
superflyif you're going to ask questions, even if the interviewer is off-camera, at least make it audible19:40
superflyif you don't want to, rather fade between19:41
superflyalso, put a table in front of the person, they will naturally lean forward. Dale is leaning back the whole time19:41
superflylooks very weird19:41
magellanicnoted19:41
magellanic;)19:41
superflyalso, it looks weird that he's looking directly at the camera the whole time (and it makes him visibly uneasy)19:42
superflyanother reason to actually have the interviewer "around" even if not visible19:42
magellanicyeah I was thinking two people sit, even if one says nothing, then the talker can glance between19:42
superflyja19:42
magellanicyeah true19:42
magellanicsuperfly: yes I was in the audience when he talked for scaleconf19:43
superflycool I was comparing the two19:43
magellanicI was very impressed with his scaleconf talk, at the time19:43
inetprocool!19:44
magellaniccan't remember though, it was quite long ago :p19:44
superflyinitially he was more relaxed with this one, but in the ScaleConf talk he started nervous but really got into the swing of things19:44
magellanicyeah19:44
inetproKilos: even the upstream TeamReport is automagic19:44
inetprohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/February2015#South_African_Ubuntu_team19:44
magellanicI talked with another gde at scaleconf this year, same story, started nervous, then sort of got into it19:44
superflyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMofn2dKhA19:44
superflymagellanic: yeah, I know ;-)19:45
superflyit was you and Johan(n)?19:45
Kiloswow inetpro  thats cool19:45
magellanicah, were you there superfly ?19:45
magellanicme and Alex19:46
superflyoh right, of course. Alex. I know him through Ingress19:46
superflyno, I wasn't there. We were offered tickets, but had too much work to do.19:46
magellaniccool, the talks go up online anyway19:47
superfly(and most people at ScaleConf seem to talk about "look how much data we have to push through in $time seconds!!1!1!"19:47
magellanicthere were 3-4 good ones, over the 2 days19:47
superflyand I don't care for that)19:47
magellaniclol19:47
magellanicyeah19:47
magellanicI went just the one day too19:48
superflyEtsy's talk is really good, though they just reuse it for every conference they go to. So I'd already seen it online before ScaleConf 201319:49
superflythen there was Dale's, which I helped put together ;-)19:50
magellanicyeah19:50
magellanicnice one :)19:50
magellanicetsy was there this year too, not sure they talked or not, I wasn't there second day19:50
barrydkLekker slaap almal19:51
Kilosinetpro  are you done?19:53
Kilosleave a message with maaz20:02
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:02
inetproMaaz: tell Kilos yes20:04
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode20:04
magespawn/exit21:57
Squirmmeh22:04
SquirmMaaz: tell magespawn that he is up too late22:04
MaazSquirm: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode22:04
inetpro/exit?22:14
inetproai!22:15
inetprogood night22:15

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