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xubuntu799xubuntu is the best! :D00:23
krytarikxubuntu799: Lovely - enjoy! :)00:25
xubuntu799much better and easer than ubuntu00:26
xubuntu799i just bought new laptop i i'm installing now my favourite xubuntu :D00:27
internetmanis there a way to check if my home dir is actually encrypted when my screen saver is tunred on?01:11
GridCubeno idea01:15
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linuxnewbabyhi06:11
linuxnewbabycan somebody help me to tell how to fix my monitor display that cant be changed06:12
linuxnewbabyplease T_T06:12
Alftandhello07:00
Alftandis anyone there?07:00
Alftandim having a problem with the indicators in the tray07:00
Alftanda new thing has appeared where lots of application tabs appear when i open an application07:01
AlftandE.G when i open google chrome these tabs appear07:01
AlftandFile, Edit, View, History, Tools, People, Help07:01
Alftandthese keep appearing in the indicator tray and i dont know how to get rid of them07:02
Alftanddoes anyone know how to remove/disable it07:02
Alftandhi07:06
Alftandis anyone there?07:06
Alftandhi baizon07:07
Alftandcan u help?07:07
baizonAlftand: what's the problem?07:08
Alftandfor some reason i installed all of the unity packages "with the idea of better indicator support@07:08
Alftandit works well07:08
Alftandthe downside07:08
Alftandnow tabs appear in the indicator tray07:09
Alftandso when i have my web browser open it sais:07:09
AlftandFile, Edit. View, History, Tools, People, Help07:10
Alftandhow do i remove/disable this?07:10
baizonAlftand: remove indicator-appmenu appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt07:12
Alftandit said "Selecting unity-gtk2-module instead of appmenu-gtk07:13
Alftandis that a problem07:13
baizonAlftand: no07:13
Alftandyou are a legend of IRC support07:14
Alftandthx!07:14
baizonAlftand: np07:15
FFFhey!08:12
FFFI use 17 with Xfce 4.12 and the wm won't save the keyboard shortcuts properly (it forgets them after reboot). I tried delete many times the default settings but it didn't help.08:12
cfhowlettFFF, 17?  what is 17?08:13
FFFMint08:16
cfhowlettFFF, not supported here.  xubuntu ain't mint.  mint ain't xubuntu.08:17
cfhowlett!mint08:17
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org08:17
FFFoh08:18
FFFokay.jpg08:18
OCP001Hello. As XFCE 4.12 is now released I was wondering if there are plans to bring this version to Xubuntu 14.04? Do I need a PPA for the _stable_ XFCE 4.12 or will it be available in the Xubuntu repos?09:47
cfhowlettOCP001, hopefully a backport to 14.04 is on the board.  if not: ppa09:48
OCP001sorry, I'm not a native speaker. What does "is on the board" mean?09:48
cfhowlettOCP001, "planned for"09:49
OCP001ah, ok. thanks!09:49
msev_in xfce 4.12 task manager can I get a numerical representation of total memory consumption?10:39
m1dnight___guys, can anyone assist me in finding errors on a disk?11:38
m1dnight___I have ran badblocks and smartctl and they all came back clean. Gnome disk utility does however say that the selftest has failed. Gparted gives no errors either.11:38
m1dnight___I4m out of ideas on what to do.11:38
m1dnight___The reason i'm checking is that my server keeps remounting the disk as read only11:39
m1dnight___So I took it out, put it in my desktop and now i'm trying to figure out if it's broken or if my mainboard is broken.11:39
golemiantHi, how can i clone my panel to the second monitor? I already tried making a new panel, but then the whiskers menu does not share favorites in both panel menus....11:39
brainvvashm1dnight___, that's a general question, please ask in #ubuntu or even ##linux11:42
m1dnight___I know, but it's rather silent in there. That's why I came here :) Sorry then.11:42
m1dnight___http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033366, golemiant , something like that?11:44
golemianti dont know how that helps me.....11:52
brainvvashgolemiant, try to link one of the whisker menu config files to the other one (~/config/xfce4/panel)11:54
golemiantdid that with a soft and a hard linjk, but they get overwritten eventually.....12:04
brainvvashnot clue then (other than hacking the code)12:05
SergioADHello16:12
SergioADhow can I disable the password request at the boot on encrypted LVM?16:12
SergioADI want encrypted LVM but I do not want put my password each boot16:15
krytarikSergioAD: Well, you can't have both, I suppose. :)16:16
SergioADthis is so sad :(16:16
htqpwhat do you expect to happen if another person boots the system? how do you want the computer to distinguish?16:16
SergioADobviouslly you have sessions for that16:17
SergioADwell them, I will need to put my password each time, thank you so much16:23
drcyou're welcome.16:24
Alftandhello?18:54
Alftandi just ran ps_mem.py and it's using 1.3gb !!!!!18:55
Alftandis this bad?18:55
bekksWhat is that "ps_mem.py"? What does it do?18:56
ObrienDavemagic ;p18:56
Alftandit adds up all the memory used by all running processes18:56
Alftandand gives u a total18:56
bekksWhy dont you just use "free -m", and read the values?18:57
Alftandbecause ps_mem.py goes into more detail18:57
bekksin which manner?18:58
Alftand108.0 KiB +  57.5 KiB = 165.5 KiBcron 140.0 KiB +  27.0 KiB = 167.0 KiBcat 132.0 KiB +  35.5 KiB = 167.5 KiBirqbalance 124.0 KiB +  60.5 KiB = 184.5 KiBkerneloops 164.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 197.0 KiBgnome-pty-helper 184.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 220.5 KiBupstart-udev-bridge 192.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 225.0 KiBupstart-socket-bridge  32.0 KiB + 195.0 KiB = 227.0 KiBgetty (6) 192.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 239.5 KiBrtkit-daemon 228.0 KiB +  23.018:58
bekksWhat does it do what free -m doesnt do?18:58
bekksUse a pastebin please.18:58
Alftandkk soz18:58
Alftandit came out wrong anyway18:58
bekksYeah, since it basically does the same as "ps aux".18:58
Alftandit sais how much ram is used by EACH individual application18:59
Alftandthen gives a total at the bottom18:59
bekksThats what ps aux and free -m do, too :)18:59
ObrienDavemine says 4093 used19:00
drcAlftand: So, is your concern the total memory used or what?19:00
Alftandhang on, this wasn't even the question lol19:00
Alftanddrc19:00
Alftandur right19:00
Alftand1.3gb!19:00
bekkshttp://www.linuxatemyram.com/ :)19:00
Alftandsounds like a lot for xfce19:01
bekks11Take a look at ps aux to see whats using your RAM.19:01
drcAlftand: Then use whatever tool you want and decide what is using what you consider an abnormal amount of memory.19:01
drcOnce that's done you can decide what to do about it.19:02
drcBut what I'd do is 1) reboot, 2) look at the memory using something that chows the changes as they occur, 3) start whatever apps you were usinig...one at a time...to see what changes.19:03
bekksOr omit 1), proceed to 2) and 3).19:04
bekksAfter 1), the memory usage will be different.19:04
drcbekks: You could, but I like starting from a clean/known state19:04
Alftandi removed the running applications like firefox and steam from the calculation19:04
Alftanddown to 708mb19:04
Alftandis that bad?19:04
bekksDepends.19:05
Alftandxfce19:05
bekksAlftand: Did you read the link i posted?19:05
Alftandyh19:05
recon_laphi, for the last month or so I've been having lots of issues with using the Internet, firefox keeps crashing and also had thunderbird crash occasionally(not sure why, but I think it's using some html display stuff) . anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?19:06
Alftandkk19:06
Alftandrebooting19:06
max12345I have an interface problem: the default program at the top of a right click menu doesn't change to the default I want it to be.19:07
max12345how I can fix that?19:07
recon_lapcrash report is here http://pastebin.com/3e3MeAbH19:09
recon_lapmax12345: when you open a file with an alternative program there should be a  "always use this program" check box?19:10
max12345recon_lap, yes but it doesn't change the program at the top of the right click menu19:11
max12345oh wait no19:11
max12345it did19:11
max12345took some time for some reason19:11
max12345thanks anyway^19:11
remlineHow do I upgrade 14.04 to 14.10?19:40
elfygo to software and updates, Updates tab, change Notify me of new version to any new version - update and it'll tell you 14.10 is available19:42
krytarikremline: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS19:42
elfybear in mind that 14.10 is out of support in July and you'll need to upgrade sooner19:43
elfythan if you stayed with LTS19:43
Alftandhi19:44
Alftandi need a hand with getting rid of an indicator19:44
remlineThank krytarik, does the wiki method use APT under the covers, or does it use some other mechanism?19:45
krytarikremline: Yep.19:45
ObrienDaveAlftand, right click and remove19:45
Alftandnot all of the indicators19:46
Alftandremove will remove all of them19:46
Alftandi need to remove one19:46
ObrienDaveright click, properties19:46
Alftandthx!19:46
remlinekrytarik, so what is the APT method? I've seen an option in man apt-get about dist-upgrade, but I don't understand the description.19:46
Alftanddist-upgrade updates EVERYTHING19:47
krytarikremline: It's not that - it uses some other magic entirely.19:47
Alftandand can potentially break your system19:47
* ObrienDave ALWAYS uses dist-upgrade19:47
remlinekrytarik, so when you said "Yep." above, you were referring to "yep, some other mechanism" ? :D19:47
krytarikremline: Nope, it's still using the APT system - it just switches sources first, and applies some additional magic so you don't end up with a broken system afterwards.19:49
remlineAha, so instead of something like http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse, sources would point to utopic multiverse?19:52
Alftandit doesn't show up in properties19:52
Alftandmy problem ain't solved19:52
Alftandwhat's the name of this indicator:19:53
Alftandwhen you click it the options are:19:53
krytarikremline: Yes.19:53
AlftandAbout this computer19:53
Alftandubuntu help19:53
Alftandsystem settings19:53
Alftandlock19:53
Alftand[my username]19:53
remlinekrytarik, cool, thanks for the patient explanation. I'll probably give it a try for 15.04.19:53
Alftandlogout19:53
Alftandsuspend19:54
Alftandrestart19:54
Alftandshutdown19:54
krytarikAlftand: Indicator Session.19:54
Alftandthx!19:55
Alftandfixed!19:55
Alftand\thx!19:55
krytarikAlftand: Welcome.19:56
Alftandhiya20:00
Alftandi got another problem...20:01
Alftandlol20:01
Alftandno matter what i do the keyboard wont go to uk mode20:01
Alftandi keep trying to set it to uk20:01
Alftandand it keeps saying it's in uk mode20:01
Alftandbut it isnt20:01
Alftandit's in US mode20:01
Alftandhelp?20:01
krytarikAlftand: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on one line - easier to follow for everyone.20:02
Alftandok20:02
Alftandsorry20:02
Alftandhabit20:02
Alftand...doh20:02
drcAlftand: It might help if you said "how" you tried.20:02
Alftandi went into the whisker menu and i clicked "keyboard"20:02
Alftandthen i added UK to the list and deleted US from the lisrt20:03
Alftandlist*20:03
Alftandnvm20:05
Alftandfixed it20:05
Alftandit's because i installed alot of unity's files20:05
Alftandcontrol of the keyboard layout was switched to a different application20:06
Alftand"keyboard input methods"20:06
krytarikEww.20:06
Alftandi dont actually use unity20:47
Alftandoops nvm replying to a message sent almost an hour ago oops lol20:48
Alftandhi21:49
Alftandis anyone there?21:49
holsteinAlftand: yes..21:49
ObrienDavewe're waiting another hour before responding ;P21:49
Alftandmy hdmi sound wont work, im trying to get hdmi sound to a television from my laptop21:49
Alftandpulseaudio doesn't see a new sound device21:50
Alftandpulseaudio has been playing up recently21:50
holsteinAlftand: it may not work..21:51
holsteinAlftand: you can try pavucontrol, and try referring to..21:51
holstein!audio21:51
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.21:51
Alftandthe cable is 100%21:51
holsteinAlftand: sure. im sure the "cable" is not the issue..21:51
Alftandit's transferring video21:51
Alftandvideo works21:51
Alftandsound doesn't work other than the internal speakers in the laptop21:52
holsteinAlftand: yup. it may be that, your hardware doesnt support linux that well21:52
holsteinAlftand: how does pavucontrol work for you? when you try to use it to route?21:53
holsteinAlftand: what i have done in the past is transfer my audio via an analog cable to the TV, when the hardware didnt support linux well21:53
Alftandpavucontrol is what i've been referring to as "pulseaudio"21:53
holsteinAlftand: sure.. its just that im specifically referring to pavucontrol21:54
holstein!info pavucontrol21:54
ubottupavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-2 (utopic), package size 111 kB, installed size 962 kB21:54
Alftandthats what im using21:54
Alftandit doesn't see the tv output21:54
holsteinAlftand: you can use it to route, for example. try and get a known good audio file playing, and try sendind it via the HDMI out. if you dont see the HDMI out, then, you can follow the guide above21:54
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holsteinAlftand: "it" wont see any TV out ever.. it'll show the hdmi out.. out of the computer21:55
Alftandby not seeing tv i mean it cant see a hdmi output21:55
Alftandthis issue is localised to software21:56
Alftandlinuxmint 17 worked on this21:56
Alftandit must be software21:56
holsteinAlftand: no doubt, its software related21:56
holsteinAlftand: linux mint is using the ubuntu kernels, so, if you get the *same* ubuntu base that linux mint 17 is using, you will likely experience "out of the box" support21:57
holsteinAlftand: you can run "aplay -l" in a terminal, as per the link above to se it the hdmi audio device is "present"..21:57
Alftandit sais HDMI in the output21:59
holsteinAlftand: sure, so test it.. route something to it21:59
Alftandhow?22:00
Alftandpavucontrol picks up nothing but internal speakers and microphone22:00
holsteinAlftand: i use pavucontrol, and a known good audio file, and i route to the sources22:00
holsteinAlftand: i'll use alsamixer as well, to make sure all it unmuted.. i'll search for and apply all updates22:01
Alftandcould it be kernel drivers22:01
Alftand?22:01
Alftandmaybe if i update my kernel...22:01
holsteinAlftand: or downgrade.. for example, to the one you know worked from mint 1722:02
Alftandhmm22:02
Alftandill give that a go22:02
jonny__hi22:15
superprowerHi. I'm using 2 monitors, left one is main. I also use drop down terminal guake. It's open's on screen where mouse is, but i want it to open only on left screen. And also there is bug: when i'm open it on right screen, i can't anymore open it on left until i open readme/settings. Is there a way to make terminal open only on main screen?22:36
holsteini would read up on quake, and see what configs there are.. see if they have a channel, superprower .. maybe someone in #ubuntu uses it and knows more about it22:38
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knomexubuntu246, please stop.22:39
superprowerholstein: is #ubuntu on freenode? If not, what server is pls?22:41
ObrienDaveyes, freenode22:41
superprowerObrienDave: ty, 'l try to ask there22:41
tatakuI can't install vlc. It says I need to install : "libgles1-mesa (>= 7.8.1) or libgles1" but I can't install them too.23:42
tatakuWhen I try to install libgles1 it says it hasn't a version susceptible to be installed.23:45
krytariktataku: What version of Xubuntu are you using?  Can you pastebin the full output?23:46
tatakukrytarik: Xubuntu 14.0423:47
tatakuThe output is in french sir but I think you'll understand23:47
krytarikYeah, probably.23:47
tatakuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10559155/23:49
* krytarik looks23:50
krytariktataku: What is the output of "apt-cache policy libgles1-mesa"?23:52
tatakuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10559180/23:53
krytariktataku: Try "sudo apt-get -f install".23:54
tatakuyes but the error what doesn't mean?23:54
krytarikThat command *should* fix it.23:55
krytarikPlease also give the output of "uname -a" though.23:56
tatakuLinux katastrof 3.13.0-46-generic #77-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 2 18:23:39 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:56
krytarikAlright, thanks - proceed.23:57
tatakukrytarik: the same output23:59

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