[00:23] <xubuntu799> xubuntu is the best! :D
[00:25] <krytarik> xubuntu799: Lovely - enjoy! :)
[00:26] <xubuntu799> much better and easer than ubuntu
[00:27] <xubuntu799> i just bought new laptop i i'm installing now my favourite xubuntu :D
[01:11] <internetman> is there a way to check if my home dir is actually encrypted when my screen saver is tunred on?
[01:15] <GridCube> no idea
[06:11] <linuxnewbaby> hi
[06:12] <linuxnewbaby> can somebody help me to tell how to fix my monitor display that cant be changed
[06:12] <linuxnewbaby> please T_T
[07:00] <Alftand> hello
[07:00] <Alftand> is anyone there?
[07:00] <Alftand> im having a problem with the indicators in the tray
[07:01] <Alftand> a new thing has appeared where lots of application tabs appear when i open an application
[07:01] <Alftand> E.G when i open google chrome these tabs appear
[07:01] <Alftand> File, Edit, View, History, Tools, People, Help
[07:02] <Alftand> these keep appearing in the indicator tray and i dont know how to get rid of them
[07:02] <Alftand> does anyone know how to remove/disable it
[07:06] <Alftand> hi
[07:06] <Alftand> is anyone there?
[07:07] <Alftand> hi baizon
[07:07] <Alftand> can u help?
[07:08] <baizon> Alftand: what's the problem?
[07:08] <Alftand> for some reason i installed all of the unity packages "with the idea of better indicator support@
[07:08] <Alftand> it works well
[07:08] <Alftand> the downside
[07:09] <Alftand> now tabs appear in the indicator tray
[07:09] <Alftand> so when i have my web browser open it sais:
[07:10] <Alftand> File, Edit. View, History, Tools, People, Help
[07:10] <Alftand> how do i remove/disable this?
[07:12] <baizon> Alftand: remove indicator-appmenu appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
[07:13] <Alftand> it said "Selecting unity-gtk2-module instead of appmenu-gtk
[07:13] <Alftand> is that a problem
[07:13] <baizon> Alftand: no
[07:14] <Alftand> you are a legend of IRC support
[07:14] <Alftand> thx!
[07:15] <baizon> Alftand: np
[08:12] <FFF> hey!
[08:12] <FFF> I use 17 with Xfce 4.12 and the wm won't save the keyboard shortcuts properly (it forgets them after reboot). I tried delete many times the default settings but it didn't help.
[08:13] <cfhowlett> FFF, 17?  what is 17?
[08:16] <FFF> Mint
[08:17] <cfhowlett> FFF, not supported here.  xubuntu ain't mint.  mint ain't xubuntu.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !mint
[08:18] <FFF> oh
[08:18] <FFF> okay.jpg
[09:47] <OCP001> Hello. As XFCE 4.12 is now released I was wondering if there are plans to bring this version to Xubuntu 14.04? Do I need a PPA for the _stable_ XFCE 4.12 or will it be available in the Xubuntu repos?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> OCP001, hopefully a backport to 14.04 is on the board.  if not: ppa
[09:48] <OCP001> sorry, I'm not a native speaker. What does "is on the board" mean?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> OCP001, "planned for"
[09:49] <OCP001> ah, ok. thanks!
[10:39] <msev_> in xfce 4.12 task manager can I get a numerical representation of total memory consumption?
[11:38] <m1dnight___> guys, can anyone assist me in finding errors on a disk?
[11:38] <m1dnight___> I have ran badblocks and smartctl and they all came back clean. Gnome disk utility does however say that the selftest has failed. Gparted gives no errors either.
[11:38] <m1dnight___> I4m out of ideas on what to do.
[11:39] <m1dnight___> The reason i'm checking is that my server keeps remounting the disk as read only
[11:39] <m1dnight___> So I took it out, put it in my desktop and now i'm trying to figure out if it's broken or if my mainboard is broken.
[11:39] <golemiant> Hi, how can i clone my panel to the second monitor? I already tried making a new panel, but then the whiskers menu does not share favorites in both panel menus....
[11:42] <brainvvash> m1dnight___, that's a general question, please ask in #ubuntu or even ##linux
[11:42] <m1dnight___> I know, but it's rather silent in there. That's why I came here :) Sorry then.
[11:44] <m1dnight___> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033366, golemiant , something like that?
[11:52] <golemiant> i dont know how that helps me.....
[11:54] <brainvvash> golemiant, try to link one of the whisker menu config files to the other one (~/config/xfce4/panel)
[12:04] <golemiant> did that with a soft and a hard linjk, but they get overwritten eventually.....
[12:05] <brainvvash> not clue then (other than hacking the code)
[16:12] <SergioAD> Hello
[16:12] <SergioAD> how can I disable the password request at the boot on encrypted LVM?
[16:15] <SergioAD> I want encrypted LVM but I do not want put my password each boot
[16:16] <krytarik> SergioAD: Well, you can't have both, I suppose. :)
[16:16] <SergioAD> this is so sad :(
[16:16] <htqp> what do you expect to happen if another person boots the system? how do you want the computer to distinguish?
[16:17] <SergioAD> obviouslly you have sessions for that
[16:23] <SergioAD> well them, I will need to put my password each time, thank you so much
[16:24] <drc> you're welcome.
[18:54] <Alftand> hello?
[18:55] <Alftand> i just ran ps_mem.py and it's using 1.3gb !!!!!
[18:55] <Alftand> is this bad?
[18:56] <bekks> What is that "ps_mem.py"? What does it do?
[18:56] <ObrienDave> magic ;p
[18:56] <Alftand> it adds up all the memory used by all running processes
[18:56] <Alftand> and gives u a total
[18:57] <bekks> Why dont you just use "free -m", and read the values?
[18:57] <Alftand> because ps_mem.py goes into more detail
[18:58] <bekks> in which manner?
[18:58] <Alftand> 108.0 KiB +  57.5 KiB = 165.5 KiB	cron 140.0 KiB +  27.0 KiB = 167.0 KiB	cat 132.0 KiB +  35.5 KiB = 167.5 KiB	irqbalance 124.0 KiB +  60.5 KiB = 184.5 KiB	kerneloops 164.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 197.0 KiB	gnome-pty-helper 184.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 220.5 KiB	upstart-udev-bridge 192.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 225.0 KiB	upstart-socket-bridge  32.0 KiB + 195.0 KiB = 227.0 KiB	getty (6) 192.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 239.5 KiB	rtkit-daemon 228.0 KiB +  23.0
[18:58] <bekks> What does it do what free -m doesnt do?
[18:58] <bekks> Use a pastebin please.
[18:58] <Alftand> kk soz
[18:58] <Alftand> it came out wrong anyway
[18:58] <bekks> Yeah, since it basically does the same as "ps aux".
[18:59] <Alftand> it sais how much ram is used by EACH individual application
[18:59] <Alftand> then gives a total at the bottom
[18:59] <bekks> Thats what ps aux and free -m do, too :)
[19:00] <ObrienDave> mine says 4093 used
[19:00] <drc> Alftand: So, is your concern the total memory used or what?
[19:00] <Alftand> hang on, this wasn't even the question lol
[19:00] <Alftand> drc
[19:00] <Alftand> ur right
[19:00] <Alftand> 1.3gb!
[19:00] <bekks> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ :)
[19:01] <Alftand> sounds like a lot for xfce
[19:01] <bekks> 11Take a look at ps aux to see whats using your RAM.
[19:01] <drc> Alftand: Then use whatever tool you want and decide what is using what you consider an abnormal amount of memory.
[19:02] <drc> Once that's done you can decide what to do about it.
[19:03] <drc> But what I'd do is 1) reboot, 2) look at the memory using something that chows the changes as they occur, 3) start whatever apps you were usinig...one at a time...to see what changes.
[19:04] <bekks> Or omit 1), proceed to 2) and 3).
[19:04] <bekks> After 1), the memory usage will be different.
[19:04] <drc> bekks: You could, but I like starting from a clean/known state
[19:04] <Alftand> i removed the running applications like firefox and steam from the calculation
[19:04] <Alftand> down to 708mb
[19:04] <Alftand> is that bad?
[19:05] <bekks> Depends.
[19:05] <Alftand> xfce
[19:05] <bekks> Alftand: Did you read the link i posted?
[19:05] <Alftand> yh
[19:06] <recon_lap> hi, for the last month or so I've been having lots of issues with using the Internet, firefox keeps crashing and also had thunderbird crash occasionally(not sure why, but I think it's using some html display stuff) . anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
[19:06] <Alftand> kk
[19:06] <Alftand> rebooting
[19:07] <max12345> I have an interface problem: the default program at the top of a right click menu doesn't change to the default I want it to be.
[19:07] <max12345> how I can fix that?
[19:09] <recon_lap> crash report is here http://pastebin.com/3e3MeAbH
[19:10] <recon_lap> max12345: when you open a file with an alternative program there should be a  "always use this program" check box?
[19:11] <max12345> recon_lap, yes but it doesn't change the program at the top of the right click menu
[19:11] <max12345> oh wait no
[19:11] <max12345> it did
[19:11] <max12345> took some time for some reason
[19:11] <max12345> thanks anyway^
[19:40] <remline> How do I upgrade 14.04 to 14.10?
[19:42] <elfy> go to software and updates, Updates tab, change Notify me of new version to any new version - update and it'll tell you 14.10 is available
[19:42] <krytarik> remline: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS
[19:43] <elfy> bear in mind that 14.10 is out of support in July and you'll need to upgrade sooner
[19:43] <elfy> than if you stayed with LTS
[19:44] <Alftand> hi
[19:44] <Alftand> i need a hand with getting rid of an indicator
[19:45] <remline> Thank krytarik, does the wiki method use APT under the covers, or does it use some other mechanism?
[19:45] <krytarik> remline: Yep.
[19:45] <ObrienDave> Alftand, right click and remove
[19:46] <Alftand> not all of the indicators
[19:46] <Alftand> remove will remove all of them
[19:46] <Alftand> i need to remove one
[19:46] <ObrienDave> right click, properties
[19:46] <Alftand> thx!
[19:46] <remline> krytarik, so what is the APT method? I've seen an option in man apt-get about dist-upgrade, but I don't understand the description.
[19:47] <Alftand> dist-upgrade updates EVERYTHING
[19:47] <krytarik> remline: It's not that - it uses some other magic entirely.
[19:47] <Alftand> and can potentially break your system
[19:47]  * ObrienDave ALWAYS uses dist-upgrade
[19:47] <remline> krytarik, so when you said "Yep." above, you were referring to "yep, some other mechanism" ? :D
[19:49] <krytarik> remline: Nope, it's still using the APT system - it just switches sources first, and applies some additional magic so you don't end up with a broken system afterwards.
[19:52] <remline> Aha, so instead of something like http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse, sources would point to utopic multiverse?
[19:52] <Alftand> it doesn't show up in properties
[19:52] <Alftand> my problem ain't solved
[19:53] <Alftand> what's the name of this indicator:
[19:53] <Alftand> when you click it the options are:
[19:53] <krytarik> remline: Yes.
[19:53] <Alftand> About this computer
[19:53] <Alftand> ubuntu help
[19:53] <Alftand> system settings
[19:53] <Alftand> lock
[19:53] <Alftand> [my username]
[19:53] <remline> krytarik, cool, thanks for the patient explanation. I'll probably give it a try for 15.04.
[19:53] <Alftand> logout
[19:54] <Alftand> suspend
[19:54] <Alftand> restart
[19:54] <Alftand> shutdown
[19:54] <krytarik> Alftand: Indicator Session.
[19:55] <Alftand> thx!
[19:55] <Alftand> fixed!
[19:55] <Alftand> \thx!
[19:56] <krytarik> Alftand: Welcome.
[20:00] <Alftand> hiya
[20:01] <Alftand> i got another problem...
[20:01] <Alftand> lol
[20:01] <Alftand> no matter what i do the keyboard wont go to uk mode
[20:01] <Alftand> i keep trying to set it to uk
[20:01] <Alftand> and it keeps saying it's in uk mode
[20:01] <Alftand> but it isnt
[20:01] <Alftand> it's in US mode
[20:01] <Alftand> help?
[20:02] <krytarik> Alftand: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on one line - easier to follow for everyone.
[20:02] <Alftand> ok
[20:02] <Alftand> sorry
[20:02] <Alftand> habit
[20:02] <Alftand> ...doh
[20:02] <drc> Alftand: It might help if you said "how" you tried.
[20:02] <Alftand> i went into the whisker menu and i clicked "keyboard"
[20:03] <Alftand> then i added UK to the list and deleted US from the lisrt
[20:03] <Alftand> list*
[20:05] <Alftand> nvm
[20:05] <Alftand> fixed it
[20:05] <Alftand> it's because i installed alot of unity's files
[20:06] <Alftand> control of the keyboard layout was switched to a different application
[20:06] <Alftand> "keyboard input methods"
[20:06] <krytarik> Eww.
[20:47] <Alftand> i dont actually use unity
[20:48] <Alftand> oops nvm replying to a message sent almost an hour ago oops lol
[21:49] <Alftand> hi
[21:49] <Alftand> is anyone there?
[21:49] <holstein> Alftand: yes..
[21:49] <ObrienDave> we're waiting another hour before responding ;P
[21:49] <Alftand> my hdmi sound wont work, im trying to get hdmi sound to a television from my laptop
[21:50] <Alftand> pulseaudio doesn't see a new sound device
[21:50] <Alftand> pulseaudio has been playing up recently
[21:51] <holstein> Alftand: it may not work..
[21:51] <holstein> Alftand: you can try pavucontrol, and try referring to..
[21:51] <holstein> !audio
[21:51] <Alftand> the cable is 100%
[21:51] <holstein> Alftand: sure. im sure the "cable" is not the issue..
[21:51] <Alftand> it's transferring video
[21:51] <Alftand> video works
[21:52] <Alftand> sound doesn't work other than the internal speakers in the laptop
[21:52] <holstein> Alftand: yup. it may be that, your hardware doesnt support linux that well
[21:53] <holstein> Alftand: how does pavucontrol work for you? when you try to use it to route?
[21:53] <holstein> Alftand: what i have done in the past is transfer my audio via an analog cable to the TV, when the hardware didnt support linux well
[21:53] <Alftand> pavucontrol is what i've been referring to as "pulseaudio"
[21:54] <holstein> Alftand: sure.. its just that im specifically referring to pavucontrol
[21:54] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[21:54] <Alftand> thats what im using
[21:54] <Alftand> it doesn't see the tv output
[21:54] <holstein> Alftand: you can use it to route, for example. try and get a known good audio file playing, and try sendind it via the HDMI out. if you dont see the HDMI out, then, you can follow the guide above
[21:55] <holstein> Alftand: "it" wont see any TV out ever.. it'll show the hdmi out.. out of the computer
[21:55] <Alftand> by not seeing tv i mean it cant see a hdmi output
[21:56] <Alftand> this issue is localised to software
[21:56] <Alftand> linuxmint 17 worked on this
[21:56] <Alftand> it must be software
[21:56] <holstein> Alftand: no doubt, its software related
[21:57] <holstein> Alftand: linux mint is using the ubuntu kernels, so, if you get the *same* ubuntu base that linux mint 17 is using, you will likely experience "out of the box" support
[21:57] <holstein> Alftand: you can run "aplay -l" in a terminal, as per the link above to se it the hdmi audio device is "present"..
[21:59] <Alftand> it sais HDMI in the output
[21:59] <holstein> Alftand: sure, so test it.. route something to it
[22:00] <Alftand> how?
[22:00] <Alftand> pavucontrol picks up nothing but internal speakers and microphone
[22:00] <holstein> Alftand: i use pavucontrol, and a known good audio file, and i route to the sources
[22:01] <holstein> Alftand: i'll use alsamixer as well, to make sure all it unmuted.. i'll search for and apply all updates
[22:01] <Alftand> could it be kernel drivers
[22:01] <Alftand> ?
[22:01] <Alftand> maybe if i update my kernel...
[22:02] <holstein> Alftand: or downgrade.. for example, to the one you know worked from mint 17
[22:02] <Alftand> hmm
[22:02] <Alftand> ill give that a go
[22:15] <jonny__> hi
[22:36] <superprower> Hi. I'm using 2 monitors, left one is main. I also use drop down terminal guake. It's open's on screen where mouse is, but i want it to open only on left screen. And also there is bug: when i'm open it on right screen, i can't anymore open it on left until i open readme/settings. Is there a way to make terminal open only on main screen?
[22:38] <holstein> i would read up on quake, and see what configs there are.. see if they have a channel, superprower .. maybe someone in #ubuntu uses it and knows more about it
[22:39] <xubuntu246> avgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdcccccccccccccccccccccccavgfsdhbvhsdvdscvdccccc
[22:39] <knome> xubuntu246, please stop.
[22:41] <superprower> holstein: is #ubuntu on freenode? If not, what server is pls?
[22:41] <ObrienDave> yes, freenode
[22:41] <superprower> ObrienDave: ty, 'l try to ask there
[23:42] <tataku> I can't install vlc. It says I need to install : "libgles1-mesa (>= 7.8.1) or libgles1" but I can't install them too.
[23:45] <tataku> When I try to install libgles1 it says it hasn't a version susceptible to be installed.
[23:46] <krytarik> tataku: What version of Xubuntu are you using?  Can you pastebin the full output?
[23:47] <tataku> krytarik: Xubuntu 14.04
[23:47] <tataku> The output is in french sir but I think you'll understand
[23:47] <krytarik> Yeah, probably.
[23:49] <tataku> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10559155/
[23:50]  * krytarik looks
[23:52] <krytarik> tataku: What is the output of "apt-cache policy libgles1-mesa"?
[23:53] <tataku> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10559180/
[23:54] <krytarik> tataku: Try "sudo apt-get -f install".
[23:54] <tataku> yes but the error what doesn't mean?
[23:55] <krytarik> That command *should* fix it.
[23:56] <krytarik> Please also give the output of "uname -a" though.
[23:56] <tataku> Linux katastrof 3.13.0-46-generic #77-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 2 18:23:39 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:57] <krytarik> Alright, thanks - proceed.
[23:59] <tataku> krytarik: the same output