[00:22] bzoltan_: i have reproduced that issue on askubuntu with a clean 14.04 install, added the ppa, dist-upgraded then tried to install ubuntu-sdk and got this:- http://imgur.com/bdsVPFH [00:23] bzoltan_: trying to install ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev depends libqt5webkit5-dev but won't be installed [00:23] bzoltan_: if I manually install libqt5webkit5-dev it pulls in the universe [00:23] bzoltan_: and it wants to remove a load too - including all the xorg utopic HWE stack [00:25] bzoltan_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10559268/ === Edwin is now known as Guest53016 [00:32] hello... this is forum for Qt Creator --> Ubuntu? [04:34] popey: we need to know where these packages come from. apt-cache policy ubuntu-sdk ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev libqt5webkit5-dev [04:41] popey: I clearly do remember that the ubuntu-sdk meta package comes from the SDK PPA, but it seems to be gone from there. Somebody just removed it and I am afraid that now it comes from the rchive... what is not necessray the right one. [04:46] popey: I have not touched the LTS sdk packages for ages ... all I kept updateing was the click*, phablet-tools and qtc packages [04:58] popey: I suspect the webapp team. Let's check with dbarth and alexabraeu [10:35] bzoltan_: yes, confimed http://paste.ubuntu.com/10561384 [10:36] bzoltan_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10561392 is a better paste [10:51] popey: so all we need to figure out is who, when and why changed what in Trusty. [10:51] bzoltan_: in the ppa you mean? [10:52] popey: Yes, that too.. but as you see, this ubuntu-sdk comes from the LTS archive. [10:52] right [10:52] popey: who and when released this 1.126.1 ubuntu-sdk in Trusty? [10:53] bzoltan_: i see nothing recently at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/ [10:54] i.e. nothing this year [10:54] popey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-sdk here it is 1.126 and not 1.126.1 ... does it matter? [10:55] where are you seeing 1.126.1? [10:55] oh, trusty-updates [10:56] popey: in your pastebin [10:56] ya [10:56] i see now. [10:56] Candidate: 1.126.1 [10:56] http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/devel/ubuntu-sdk [10:56] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/u/ubuntu-touch-meta/ubuntu-touch-meta_1.126.1/changelog [10:56] loic :) [10:56] but that was nearly a year ago [10:57] i dont think that's the issue. [10:57] (I need to go afk) [10:57] (sorry) [10:57] popey: May 2014 by lool .. I do not think it is relevant === aaron_ is now known as ahoneybun [11:41] hello [19:43] geez ... [19:43] how do others handle the fact that all timers get stopped if your app is backgrounded ? [19:43] they don't [19:44] well, i'm surethe "time elapsed" counting in the music app is correct [19:44] so they must handle that somehow [19:44] ogra_, that time elapsed is directly from the MediaPlayer.position [19:44] ah [19:44] crapp [19:44] ogra_, and we have a lifecycle exception at the moment ;) [19:44] cant get that for my app [19:45] ogra_, can you not just take like the time() and compare? [19:45] yeah, i will have to [19:46] i' workign on a native internet radio app ... cnstant stream from the station ... so media-hub wont get me a proper duration/elapsed time [19:46] ugh :/ [19:46] do you not get any timestamp/position at all ? [19:46] they give me json with a timestamp when the song started so i can compute the offset when entering the strem [19:47] (assuming my clock matches the servers :P ) [19:47] haha [19:48] you should probably talk to jhodapp when he is about [19:48] well, i doubt he can help me there [19:48] the actual mp3 streaam has no meta data i think [19:48] unless there is some position he can expose in media-hub for you [19:49] well, i'll just sotore timestamps and compare them i guess [19:49] *store [19:50] yeah probably best for now :) [19:50] * ogra_ has heard unbelivable amounts of music today fiddlin gwith that app ... unbelivable what old stuff you run into that you havent heard in 20 years [19:51] me wonders if anyone remembers "Stephen "tin tin" Duffy" - "Kiss Me" thats just playing here :P [19:51] i guess davmor2 has a weird enough music taste to remember it :) [19:54] i do [19:54] haha, old farts united [19:55] yesterday I heard Blockbuster by Sweet and Parts of the union by Strawbs, which is now stuck in my head [19:55] yes [19:57] blockbuster \o/ [19:58] :) [19:58] you're _way_ too young to remember that! [19:58] :) [19:58] * popey looks around and suspects ahayzen_ is the youngest here. [19:58] gotta love the 70s [19:59] not that i was around for another 20yrs.... [19:59] :) [19:59] * ogra_ listens too "strech - Why did you do it" ... the maxi version atm [20:06] I would quite like a TuneIn radio style app [20:06] that'd be cool [20:06] but I'm content with it having just one button "Make Radio 4 Come out of my speakers" [20:06] * ogra_ doesnt know tune-in [20:07] very popular app on android and ios [20:07] heh Radio 4 [20:07] yeah, shut your face, you'll be old one day :) [20:07] hmm ... [20:07] i wonder what to do with my lautfm webapp [20:08] i guess i have to remove it when i upload the native one [20:08] * popey notes that someone put a YouPorn webapp in the store [20:08] lol [20:08] wondered how long before someone would do that [20:08] ogra_: why not just upload the native one over the top of the old one? [20:08] so people get an "upgrade" [20:08] popey, namespace changed [20:08] i doubt it would just replace the old one [20:09] if it doesn't, its a bug [20:09] new is: lautfm.ogra [20:09] old is com.ubuntu.developer.ogra.lautfm [20:09] we should have a way of like aliasing an old namespace to a new one ... or is it supposed to ? [20:09] it is on the server ... but i doubt click on the device handles it [21:10] popey: hey, btw it would be best if tomorrow I get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1429273 merged before you ask QA to review clock for store upload. [21:10] Ubuntu bug 1429273 in Ubuntu Clock App "Clock App crashes when editing on alarm on vivid" [Critical,In progress] [21:10] popey: it fixes a critical crash in vivid [21:10] erk [21:11] popey: ? [21:11] yes. it would be prudent, as they'll reject it otherwise. [21:12] focus is heavily on vivid now [21:12] popey: well the crasher started appearing only after the UITK upload on friday [21:12] bah [21:12] popey: so I dint see this coming when I asked for the store upload [21:13] sorry about that. Yes, lets get that merged asap and we can ask QA soon after. [21:13] how are translations looking? [21:14] around 13 languages 100 % complete [21:14] I think French will be imported tomorrow morning since it was done 20 mins back [21:16] popey: Yeah I will get the help of zsombor to approve and merge the MP tomorrow morning as well [21:17] * ahayzen_ notes he should probably move to vivid on his desktop and phone [21:19] system-D-Day! [21:19] nik90: ok. [21:20] \o/ social troll day :/ [21:20] hah [21:22] hehe [21:23] popey, did you sort that issue with the weather-app reboot building for amd64 instead of arm in the end? [21:25] no, nik90 said he would take a look :) [21:26] or did I? [21:26] popey: u did..I cross-checked and it seems clock does the same as well [21:26] which is where we took the cmake file from [21:26] oh, so mess on my end [21:26] oh [21:27] magic [21:27] popey: my guess is that the CMakeList detects the arch it is built on ... and you built it on your amd64 laptop [21:27] probably yeah [21:27] while QtC creates the armhf click package using the necessary chroots [21:29] popey, ahayzen_: Yup that has to be it .. looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/CMakeLists.txt#L76 [21:29] it looks at the host arch [21:29] makes no sense for a pure qml app [21:29] nik90, yeah that looks like it [21:29] well both weather and clock aren't pure qml apps [21:30] I presume weather will soon get a C++ backend to get the timezone info the same way clock is doing that now [21:30] yup i would assume that as well [21:31] oh of course [21:31] i forgot about that [21:31] so ignore me [21:32] The clock CMakelists was reviewed by 2-3 people, so I would stick to it. Hopefully when we get fat package support from the SDK we can revisit this again [21:33] +1 [21:36] popey, hey, can you test this please? see the description on instructions: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/improve-error-handling/+merge/252227 [21:37] rpadovani, ^ [21:42] woah, nice update [21:42] will have to test in the morning, my device is dead [23:30] mhall119, Are you awake?