[00:22] <popey> bzoltan_: i have reproduced that issue on askubuntu with a clean 14.04 install, added the ppa, dist-upgraded then tried to install ubuntu-sdk and got this:- http://imgur.com/bdsVPFH
[00:23] <popey> bzoltan_: trying to install ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev depends libqt5webkit5-dev but won't be installed
[00:23] <popey> bzoltan_: if I manually install libqt5webkit5-dev it pulls in the universe
[00:23] <popey> bzoltan_: and it wants to remove a load too - including all the xorg utopic HWE stack
[00:25] <popey> bzoltan_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10559268/
[00:32] <Guest53016> hello... this is forum for Qt Creator --> Ubuntu?
[04:34] <bzoltan_> popey:  we need to know where these packages come from. apt-cache policy ubuntu-sdk ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev libqt5webkit5-dev
[04:41] <bzoltan_> popey: I clearly do remember that the ubuntu-sdk meta package comes from the SDK PPA, but it seems to be gone from there. Somebody just removed it and I am afraid that now  it comes from the rchive... what is not necessray the right one.
[04:46] <bzoltan_> popey: I have not touched the LTS sdk packages for ages ... all I kept updateing was the click*, phablet-tools and qtc packages
[04:58] <bzoltan_> popey:  I suspect the webapp team. Let's check with dbarth and  alexabraeu
[10:35] <popey> bzoltan_: yes, confimed http://paste.ubuntu.com/10561384
[10:36] <popey> bzoltan_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10561392 is a better paste
[10:51] <bzoltan_> popey:  so all we need to figure out is who, when and why  changed what in Trusty.
[10:51] <popey> bzoltan_: in the ppa you mean?
[10:52] <bzoltan_> popey:  Yes, that too.. but as you see, this ubuntu-sdk comes from the LTS archive.
[10:52] <popey> right
[10:52] <bzoltan_> popey: who and when released this 1.126.1 ubuntu-sdk in Trusty?
[10:53] <popey> bzoltan_: i see nothing recently at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/trusty-changes/
[10:54] <popey> i.e. nothing this year
[10:54] <bzoltan_> popey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-sdk here it is 1.126 and not 1.126.1 ... does it matter?
[10:55] <popey> where are you seeing 1.126.1?
[10:55] <popey> oh, trusty-updates
[10:56] <bzoltan_> popey:  in your pastebin
[10:56] <popey> ya
[10:56] <popey> i see now.
[10:56] <bzoltan_>   Candidate: 1.126.1
[10:56] <popey> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/devel/ubuntu-sdk
[10:56] <popey> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/u/ubuntu-touch-meta/ubuntu-touch-meta_1.126.1/changelog
[10:56] <popey> loic :)
[10:56] <popey> but that was nearly a year ago
[10:57] <popey> i dont think that's the issue.
[10:57] <popey> (I need to go afk)
[10:57] <popey> (sorry)
[10:57] <bzoltan_> popey:  May 2014 by lool .. I do not think it is relevant
[11:41] <the0man> hello
[19:43] <ogra_> geez ...
[19:43] <ogra_> how do others handle the fact that all timers get stopped if your app is backgrounded ?
[19:43] <popey> they don't
[19:44] <ogra_> well, i'm surethe "time elapsed" counting in the music app is correct
[19:44] <ogra_> so they must handle that somehow
[19:44] <ahayzen_> ogra_, that time elapsed is directly from the MediaPlayer.position
[19:44] <ogra_> ah
[19:44] <ogra_> crapp
[19:44] <ahayzen_> ogra_, and we have a lifecycle exception at the moment ;)
[19:44] <ogra_> cant get that for my app
[19:45] <ahayzen_> ogra_, can you not just take like the time() and compare?
[19:45] <ogra_> yeah, i will have to
[19:46] <ogra_> i' workign on a native internet radio app ... cnstant stream from the station ... so media-hub wont get me a proper duration/elapsed time
[19:46] <ahayzen_> ugh :/
[19:46] <ahayzen_> do you not get any timestamp/position at all ?
[19:46] <ogra_> they give me json with a timestamp when the song started so i can compute the offset when entering the strem
[19:47] <ogra_> (assuming my clock matches the servers :P )
[19:47] <ahayzen_> haha
[19:48] <ahayzen_> you should probably talk to jhodapp when he is about
[19:48] <ogra_> well, i doubt he can help me there
[19:48] <ogra_> the actual mp3 streaam has no meta data i think
[19:48] <ahayzen_> unless there is some position he can expose in media-hub for you
[19:49] <ogra_> well, i'll just sotore timestamps and compare them i guess
[19:49] <ogra_> *store
[19:50] <ahayzen_> yeah probably best for now :)
[19:50]  * ogra_ has heard unbelivable amounts of music today fiddlin gwith that app ... unbelivable what old stuff you run into that you havent heard in 20 years 
[19:51] <ogra_> me wonders if anyone remembers "Stephen "tin tin" Duffy" - "Kiss Me" thats just playing here :P
[19:51] <ogra_> i guess davmor2 has a weird enough music taste to remember it :)
[19:54] <popey> i do
[19:54] <ogra_> haha, old farts united
[19:55] <popey> yesterday I heard Blockbuster by Sweet and Parts of the union by Strawbs, which is now stuck in my head
[19:55] <popey> yes
[19:57] <ahayzen_> blockbuster \o/
[19:58] <popey> :)
[19:58] <popey> you're _way_ too young to remember that!
[19:58] <ogra_> :)
[19:58]  * popey looks around and suspects ahayzen_ is the youngest here.
[19:58] <ahayzen_> gotta love the 70s
[19:59] <ahayzen_> not that i was around for another 20yrs....
[19:59] <popey> :)
[19:59]  * ogra_ listens too "strech - Why did you do it" ... the maxi version atm
[20:06] <popey> I would quite like a TuneIn radio style app
[20:06] <ahayzen_> that'd be cool
[20:06] <popey> but I'm content with it having just one button "Make Radio 4 Come out of my speakers"
[20:06]  * ogra_ doesnt know tune-in
[20:07] <popey> very popular app on android and ios
[20:07] <ahayzen_> heh Radio 4
[20:07] <popey> yeah, shut your face, you'll be old one day :)
[20:07] <ogra_> hmm ...
[20:07] <ogra_> i wonder what to do with my lautfm webapp
[20:08] <ogra_> i guess i have to remove it when i upload the native one
[20:08]  * popey notes that someone put a YouPorn webapp in the store
[20:08] <ogra_> lol
[20:08] <popey> wondered how long before someone would do that
[20:08] <popey> ogra_: why not just upload the native one over the top of the old one?
[20:08] <popey> so people get an "upgrade"
[20:08] <ogra_> popey, namespace changed
[20:08] <ogra_> i doubt it would just replace the old one
[20:09] <popey> if it doesn't, its a bug
[20:09] <ogra_> new is: lautfm.ogra
[20:09] <ogra_> old is com.ubuntu.developer.ogra.lautfm
[20:09] <ahayzen_> we should have a way of like aliasing an old namespace to a new one  ... or is it supposed to ?
[20:09] <ogra_> it is on the server ... but i doubt click on the device handles it
[21:10] <nik90> popey: hey, btw it would be best if tomorrow I get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1429273 merged before you ask QA to review clock for store upload.
[21:10] <nik90> popey: it fixes a critical crash in vivid
[21:10] <popey> erk
[21:11] <nik90> popey: ?
[21:11] <popey> yes. it would be prudent, as they'll reject it otherwise.
[21:12] <popey> focus is heavily on vivid now
[21:12] <nik90> popey: well the crasher started appearing only after the UITK upload on friday
[21:12] <popey> bah
[21:12] <nik90> popey: so I dint see this coming when I asked for the store upload
[21:13] <popey> sorry about that. Yes, lets get that merged asap and we can ask QA soon after.
[21:13] <popey> how are translations looking?
[21:14] <nik90> around 13 languages 100 % complete
[21:14] <nik90> I think French will be imported tomorrow morning since it was done 20 mins back
[21:16] <nik90> popey: Yeah I will get the help of zsombor to approve and merge the MP tomorrow morning as well
[21:17]  * ahayzen_ notes he should probably move to vivid on his desktop and phone
[21:19] <popey> system-D-Day!
[21:19] <popey> nik90: ok.
[21:20] <ahayzen_> \o/ social troll day :/
[21:20] <popey> hah
[21:22] <nik90> hehe
[21:23] <ahayzen_> popey, did you sort that issue with the weather-app reboot building for amd64 instead of arm in the end?
[21:25] <popey> no, nik90 said he would take a look :)
[21:26] <popey> or did I?
[21:26] <nik90> popey: u did..I cross-checked and it seems clock does the same as well
[21:26] <nik90> which is where we took the cmake file from
[21:26] <popey> oh, so mess on my end
[21:26] <popey> oh
[21:27] <ahayzen_> magic
[21:27] <nik90> popey: my guess is that the CMakeList detects the arch it is built on ... and you built it on your amd64 laptop
[21:27] <popey> probably yeah
[21:27] <nik90> while QtC creates the armhf click package using the necessary chroots
[21:29] <nik90> popey, ahayzen_: Yup that has to be it .. looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/CMakeLists.txt#L76
[21:29] <nik90> it looks at the host arch
[21:29] <popey> makes no sense for a pure qml app
[21:29] <ahayzen_> nik90, yeah that looks like it
[21:29] <nik90> well both weather and clock aren't pure qml apps
[21:30] <nik90> I presume weather will soon get a C++ backend to get the timezone info the same way clock is doing that now
[21:30] <ahayzen_> yup i would assume that as well
[21:31] <popey> oh of course
[21:31] <popey> i forgot about that
[21:31] <popey> so ignore me
[21:32] <nik90> The clock CMakelists was reviewed by 2-3 people, so I would stick to it. Hopefully when we get fat package support from the SDK we can revisit this again
[21:33] <popey> +1
[21:36] <mzanetti> popey, hey, can you test this please? see the description on instructions: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/improve-error-handling/+merge/252227
[21:37] <mzanetti> rpadovani, ^
[21:42] <popey> woah, nice update
[21:42] <popey> will have to test in the morning, my device is dead
[23:30] <DS-McGuire> mhall119, Are you awake?