[00:14] nik90: yes, your build is working fine [00:15] karpatil: hmm not sure why your build isnt working [00:15] karpatil: I built it using my 14.04 laptop and a 15.04 chroot (qtc) [00:16] I will have to install ubutnu 15.04 on my other laptop to check if anything is wrong there [00:18] karpatil: but its getting late now here (01:18 AM) .. so I will be going offline soon [00:19] sure, thank you for your time [00:19] yw [00:19] nik90: i will look after it [00:20] nik90: maybe something with my system env settings [00:25] what do you guys think about this? http://ubports.com/ good or bad idea? [00:49] mariogrip: buying a domain and setting all that stuff up was probably a bit much. :) [00:51] dobey, maybe :P [00:52] mariogrip_: it /is/ possible to edit or create pages on the ubuntu wiki and use existing code hosting and such :) [00:56] dobey, i know, but i think this will be easier for developers where we can provide ota server, build servers and knowledge about porting. [00:57] and when (if) we get many devices ported, a place to find downloads and support [00:58] i've actually been thinking of setting up a system-image server of my own [00:59] :) [01:01] with a valid ssl cert === uuhimhere is now known as unbreakable === unbreakable is now known as Hard_Coretex [05:55] hola [05:55] what is the latest ubuntu-touch stable version ? [05:56] 14.09 [05:56] is it still r12 or is it something else now ? [05:56] yes 14.09 r12 ? [05:56] i forgot where you get the r12 from its in the about section i think [08:31] ogra_: morning === uuhimhere is now known as Orly_Cow === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === aaron_ is now known as ahoneybun [11:14] Is possible to install apps from store with apparmor disabled? === uuhimhere is now known as IllusionL0v3R [12:17] hi [13:07] that is the name for the settings-manager in ubuntu touch? i have a problem in a xfce-profile and don't know ho to delete it, rm .config/xfce4 is not working, it allways comes back. [13:07] sorry, i a mean what [13:21] solved [14:19] Hey i am unable to update kodiscope to version 4.0 it downloads from the store but does not install. [14:19] i have seen, that there are 2 new branches under ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed, krillin.en and krillin.es where is the different to the normal devel-proposed ? [14:20] hi all [14:20] hi [14:21] is anybody here, who use N4 with latest devel version of Ubutnu Touch? [14:22] atya I am [14:24] taiebot: can U tell me, is the agps works well with the latest dev version? if it isn't, is there any hope, it will works perfectly anytime? [14:24] agps you mean location based on gps + wifi? [14:24] taiebot: when I tried it with my N4, the GPS was terribly slow [14:25] gps is always slow. [14:25] taiebot: ok, the real question is: is the GPS usable on N4 now? how much time to find itself? [14:26] taiebot: not always. with Android it works well [14:26] almost 2min to get a location [14:26] taiebot: can U tell me, what is the cause of this? is it driver problem or Ubuntu error? [14:27] i do not know on this you can download an app to help you sensor status [14:28] taiebot: from where? what is that's name? [14:28] where it tells you if the backend is found and gives you your location [14:28] app store [14:29] the name is sensorsstatus [14:29] taiebot: thank a lot, I will try it soon [14:30] taiebot: is the GPS _always_ finds the location in 2 minutes? [14:31] depends where you are. It is normally not recommended to be inside [14:31] btw. what navigation software are you all using? never tied that and in the new image isn't the "here" anymore ... can you please give me an advice? [14:31] taiebot: it would be acceptable [14:32] . agps does not seems to work here as it did not find my position yet. [14:33] taiebot: I tried it outside in my car, but I can't wait for half an hour :S [14:33] studio_ i still have the here maps web app installed and osm [14:34] what version (image) do you use? [14:34] studio_: I want to develop one :D But I have to buy a Meizu MX4 before, I'm affraid :D [14:34] 15.04 r126 [14:35] i think the web app was removed from the store. [14:36] i have 15.04 r137 (krillin) but without here?! [14:36] i would like to know what ships with the BQ and the meizu? [14:37] atya it looks like it s not working here either so must be a ubuntu bug [14:37] taiebot: can anybody browse the Ubuntu Store without Touch? Is there any webapp? [14:38] atya https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/apps [14:39] taiebot: tnx [14:39] is there via command line a test tool for gps? [14:42] thans for your help, bye all! === yorick_ is now known as yorick [15:30] I have some problems with adb, but wifi works, ssh should start automatically? I cant connect to it (ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.116 port 22: Connection refused) [15:35] adrian47, did you enabled ssh? [15:37] when i connect adb unity is not usable, but i start ssh now for test and.. :Permission denied (publickey). [15:38] How can i start ssh automatically? [15:38] hehe, i had the same problem in the beginning, you have to change keys [15:39] username is not working [15:40] oh, thanks but how? :) [15:41] http://askubuntu.com/questions/563573/cant-ssh-into-ubuntu-touch-device [15:41] :) [15:52] hmm, i still can't connect via mtp to my phone (15.04 - r137) and there is also still an empty vendor/device on lsusb on 2a47:0c02 is that normal? [16:18] is there a "trick" to enable the mtp-client on the device? [16:20] studio_ you editet ssh.override file? [16:21] with ssh problem :) [16:21] no, just made the keys and imported them [16:23] was a little bit "tricky" with adb get or wget (from my server) to get it to the ubuntu-touch device. could be made more easy ... :( [16:35] but what about the mtp problem? on two computers no connection via mtp to the ubuntu-touch device. so it must be a problem with the software on the device. where can i find the changelog or diff to the software about changeings in the mt-protocol? [16:49] is still someone here who is using the bq e4.5 and can "maybe" help? [17:05] studio_, i made key and flashed it, now whe i try ssh it want's password but phablet doesn't work [17:12] adrian47, i am flashing my device right now back, because i have unsolved problems. but for ssh-connection you do not need to "flash" your device. "just" import the right ssh-key ... [17:20] adrian47, as the guy in the url wrote "Paste your public key to /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys2" ... did you made that? [17:25] studio_, yes, there wasn't .ssh folder so I created it [17:27] and after this, when trying to connect I have to enter password: 'phablet@192.168.1.116's password: ' [17:27] ok, "cd ~/.ssh" then "ssh-keygen" and change the keys on both sides :) [17:28] the password is normally the phrase you set ... [17:29] isn't it? [17:29] i set empty password [17:29] and it not works [17:30] it's better to set it? [17:31] i never worked with an empty phrase ... try one. [17:34] ssh is for beginners "not so nice". needs an easy how-to ... [17:37] most windows users use putty and when they try to connect to their ubuntu-touch device with ssh, then they have their first big problem ... [17:40] Is the new music app released .. Running stable .. Will the new music app be released for 14.10 [17:40] digim0nk, define 'new' music app? and do you mean desktop/phone ? === HoloIRCUser3 is now known as digim0nk [17:55] i am back on 14.10 on my device and mtp is working again. the error must be on 15.04! [17:57] hmm, i have ported 15.04 and here mtp works, it must be device specific [17:57] on what device? [17:57] HTC Desire HD [17:58] old one but i love him :) [17:58] i use a bq 4.5 :) [17:58] e4.5 [17:59] i also think now it is device specific ... :( [17:59] there are some known issues with vivid images that came up as people were concentrating on the rtm release for the bq phone. they should be getting fixed soon [18:00] import contacts from the sim card was not working on the 14.10, but on 15.04 it works... [18:00] the branch to fix that was only for vivid, yes [18:00] ahh ok [18:01] but on 14.10 i have nokia here? [18:02] why it was removed from 15.04? [18:04] are you mixing ports and official images? [18:05] no, from bq there is no official image. that was what Víctor González told me ... [18:08] how long do I have to wait for my bq :( still not got it [18:09] best is to ask the bq guys :) [18:11] g105b, they still have no release for the software :) [18:11] studio_: oh so there isn't any made yet? I thought I was waiting for the shipping... [18:12] made, maybe, but not public ... [18:13] g105b: last thing I saw on G+ seemed to indicate there was some issue with the cases that was holding up shipping [18:13] g105b: no idea how reliable that is though [18:13] aha there's me rushing to the mailbox every afternoon after work and they haven't finished building it yet :D [18:14] g105b: https://plus.google.com/110395302661228413735/posts/jaZeyc2DiuW [18:14] g105b: but like I say, no idea how reliable that is [18:14] if they use 14.10 i ask myself how user can import contacts from the sim card, when this is only possible with the 15.04? [18:14] hmm, very concerned about "unable to say if other devices will be shipped with Ubuntu or not" [18:17] studio_: no. the rtm image has what's on the phone that's shipped by bq [18:17] studio_: the vivid images are developer builds [18:17] studio_: you were told this already [18:18] studio_: also as arleady told to you, sim contacts import is not supported yet [18:19] g105b: why the concern? that's about whether they will product ubuntu versions of their other existing phone models [18:19] that will be a problem on the "release" when the users will figure out that ... [18:20] dobey: Oh, I read it as "we might not even send you the phone with Ubuntu on it" [18:20] studio_: no it won't. you are not all users. stop trying to act like you speak for everyone. [18:20] g105b: no, the ubuntu version of the phone will be shipped to those who bought it. there is apparently just some delay in shipment. [18:21] I see [18:21] Contact and Calendar sync from Google worked like a charm .. Impressive. [18:21] dobey, ok how can new users import their contacts to the ubuntu-phone? [18:21] studio_: google? anyone using an android phone will almost certainl have their contacts in google already [18:22] why google? thei do not use google !!! [18:22] thay [18:22] who do not use google? [18:23] studio_, i tried but still the same error [18:23] everyone with an android uses google. [18:23] everyone with an android phone is used by google. [18:23] i don't use google contacts. but i don't use android either [18:23] and all the nerds who dont use google because "google is evil" know how to handle their stuff with other services. [18:24] they use a phone with contacts on it, som also uses old phones without android ios or windows ... so how to import via th "normal" way from the sim card? [18:24] and i imported the contacts from my webos phone through a vcf export [18:24] studio_: who is "they" ? [18:24] pplz [18:24] studio_: 14:18 < dobey> studio_: no it won't. you are not all users. stop trying to act like you speak for everyone. [18:24] so there is no "dumb user" who knows that "google is evil" but doesnt know how to setup stuff without google. so dont pretend that is a usecase for 99% of the users. [18:25] studio_: SIM card import is under development, so it'll be available for users who can't use the existing methods when vivid becomes stable [18:27] Elleo, i understood under development, but is there an alternative way, not google, for exchange contacts? a tool for windows for example? [18:27] no there is no tool for windows [18:28] studio_: the contacts app can import vcf files (which most things can export) [18:30] Elleo, on the 14.10 is only import via google, nothing more. [18:31] studio_: you can do vcf imports on 14.10 as well [18:31] where? [18:31] Elleo: how? [18:31] studio_: just email yourself a vcf file for example, or download one through the browser and it'll let you open it in the contacts app [18:32] at least I'm pretty sure that's the case [18:32] it's possible that there's only vcf export, but I think there's import as well [18:32] Elleo: you cana't copy a vcf onto the phone via mtp and open it afaik [18:33] you can import a vcf as a new address book in evolution, and then copy the contacts.db onto the phone and overwrite whatever contacts you already have on the phone, with that [18:34] but there's no "import" button in the contacts app [18:34] dobey: no button, but import is available via content-hub [18:34] dobey: e.g. just visit http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/test.vcf in the browser [18:34] dobey: and it should provide contacts as a destination [18:34] Elleo: if there's no button, there's no way to copy your vcf onto the phone and import it [18:35] Elleo: that's fine, but that's different from importing a local vcf [18:35] dobey: it's still a non-google way of importing contacts [18:35] sure, but it's a very roundabout way of doing it which involves putting your contacts list somewhere on the internet [18:37] dobey: it'll work if you email them to yourself as well, uploading it was just the fastest public example [18:37] Elleo: yes, and e-mail == internet [18:37] dobey: and if it doesn't work from the file manager then that's a bug in the file manager that needs fixing [18:38] Elleo: there is no file manager on the retail phone [18:38] that's an app you have to install from the store [18:38] dobey: I don't really see installing an app as being an insurmountable challenge [18:38] even if it does work from the file manager "install this extra app that has nothing to do with contacts, to be able to import your contacts" is not a nice solution [18:38] dobey: I'm not saying the current solutions are perfect, but they do exist [18:38] Elleo: it's not about being a surmountable challenge or not. it's about user experience [18:39] you don't have to be tied to gmail to import contacts (it's the easiest way, but it's not the only one) [18:39] importing contacts from google or a web site, is the only thing that gives a halfway decent user experience right now though [18:41] dobey: I'm not saying it's the best user experience; someone asked how to import contacts without google and I was simply explaining how it can be done currently [18:42] dobey: I don't think that'll always be the way to do it (for one thing sim imports are landing in devel at the moment), but it's the way you can do it currently [18:58] i need help with ssh :D [19:00] Is there a way to hack it? I am usign it on private network so I don't need any security [19:03] Elleo, thanks for help with the vcard import, but that did/should not be the "common way" ... it must be more easy [19:12] adrian47: what do you mean "hack"? [19:13] popey, I'm not sure, do something to get it work :) [19:14] i added authorized_keys2 to /home/phablet/.ssh, but still getting Permission denied (publickey). [19:15] did you set permissions correctly? [19:16] and why authorized_keys2 and not authorized_keys? [19:17] studio gives me this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/563573/cant-ssh-into-ubuntu-touch-device [19:17] i tried with authorized_keys too [19:17] 19:15 < popey> did you set permissions correctly? [19:17] for me that was working ... [19:17] where? [19:17] for the .ssh folder and the authorized_keys file [19:17] they have to have specific authorisations to work correctly [19:17] drwx------ 2 phablet phablet 4096 Jan 8 15:32 .ssh [19:17] give me a second [19:17] -rw------- 1 phablet phablet 799 Mar 8 19:16 authorized_keys [19:18] this is the #1 reason why ssh with keys fails on every single platform [19:18] (that and people putting the wrong key on the machine) [19:18] popey, why now "authorized_keys" ? [19:19] studio_: that's easily found out by a simple online search [19:20] i made it with the authorized_keys2 and it worked ? [19:21] "by a simple online search" is http://askubuntu.com/questions/563573/cant-ssh-into-ubuntu-touch-device [19:21] .ssh has drwxrwxrwx, and authorized_keys has -rw-rw-rw- [19:21] isn't it? [19:21] adrian47: thats wronger than wrong [19:22] see mine above [19:24] popey, ok, so i changed it now and rebooting [19:24] rebooting!? [19:24] you dont need to reboot, this isn't windows [19:25] i have problems with adb [19:25] i need made changes from recovery [19:25] O_O [19:27] adb works but when i turn developer mode, unity is completely not usable (respond to touch after 10 minutes) until restart [19:28] what device is this and what image you running? [19:28] HTC DHD, my vivid port [19:28] ah [19:29] still the same error [19:29] what error? [19:29] Permission denied (publickey). [19:29] do "ssh -vvvv phablet@ip.add.ress" [19:29] and pastebin the result [19:30] http://pastebin.com/fXmpHkW6 [19:31] you're logged into your machine as root? [19:31] and you copied the key from the /root/.ssh/ directory to the device? [19:32] yes [19:32] not "your" key, but "root" key? [19:32] hmm, i was doing everything from 'sudo su' terminal session [19:33] i wouldn't do that :) [19:33] copy your own personal normal user key to the authorized keys file on the device and ssh as you, not root [19:33] looks like you may have copied the wrong key over [19:34] look at the end of the authorized_keys file on the device and you'll see the username @ hostname which owns the key [19:44] http://pastebin.com/ghxeRHVQ [19:44] the same [19:45] PasswordAuthentication should be yes or no? [19:46] you should not need to fiddle with the ssh config [19:46] adrian47: so, permissions are 100% correct, same as mine on .ssh and authorized_keys? [19:46] and you have the correct contents of authorized_keys? [19:46] pooooooooooooooooooopey! [19:48] debug apparmor group is auto-added by ubutnu-sdk, how can I disable this behaviour? [19:51] popey, seeecond, from recovery adb the file was there but now when I connected adb when running i dont see it [19:51] wolflarson: good evening [19:57] my adb works sooo slooooow :( [19:58] use ssh ;) [19:58] hahah :D [19:59] I want! But ssh don't want work with me :) [19:59] configure it correctly then :) [20:00] does you wlan work ? [20:00] *your [20:00] but how without working adb? [20:00] ogra_, yes [20:01] i need restart it now, adb blocked UT completely [20:01] put "true" into /userdata/android-data/property/persist.service.ssh [20:02] at least if your property system in the container works properly that should trigger ssh to start on boot [20:03] i inserted 'service ssh start' into /etc/rc.local (found it somewhere) [20:03] and it boots, but i am getting Permission denied (publickey). [20:04] ah, yeah, that would indeed work too ... (ugly, but works) [20:04] well, make sure the permissions are correct [20:04] for your public key and the ~/.ssh dir ) [20:06] trying and trying but it's hard with my adb [20:11] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls -lhd .ssh/ [20:11] drwxr-xr-x 2 phablet phablet 4,0K Feb 25 13:00 .ssh/ [20:11] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls -lh .ssh/ [20:11] -rw------- 1 phablet phablet 221 Mär 6 16:50 authorized_keys [20:11] -rw-r--r-- 1 phablet phablet 222 Feb 25 13:00 known_hosts [20:11] these are my permissions [20:12] (on a working ssh) [20:17] changing permissions from recovery adb will affect? [20:18] yes, but i'mm not sure your recovery shell allows UIDs that dont exist ... [20:18] phablet has 32011 or some such [20:18] guys, i figured out the problem with the ssh, because i made it new ... [20:21] adrian47, do you have the public key from your PC, example: "pc_id_rsa.pub" in /home/phablet/.ssh? [20:21] studio_ yes generated by ssh-keygen [20:22] and then 'cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys' [20:22] heh, you could just cp :) [20:22] if yes, make "cat pc_id_rsa.pub >> authorized_key" in /home/phablet/.ssh [20:23] if yes, make "cat pc_id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys" in /home/phablet/.ssh [20:23] "S" sorry [20:24] studio_ i made it on pc and then pushed with adb to /data/home/phablet/.ssh (data because i pushed it from recovery [20:25] hope it is a different name? id_rsa.pub is standard ... [20:26] if you adb push it, it will have the wrong owner and wrong permissions [20:26] which you need to fix [20:28] adrian47, use mtp and but it into Downloads, then adb to copy it from Downloads to /home/phablet/.ssh/pc_id_rsa.pub or what ever [20:29] this is confusing advice. [20:29] i know, but it is working [20:30] not with that filename it aint [20:30] It's been explained multiple times now by 3 people what needs to be done. It's really very simple. [20:31] it's hard because i don't have good working adb [20:31] did you use my hacked adbd binary ? [20:32] ogra_, yes it worked until i get working unity [20:32] the problem is, how to push the id_rsa.pub from the pc to the .ssh-folder with a different name than id_rsa.pub and then to add to the authorized_key [20:32] adrian47, oh ? [20:32] for that binary unity shouldnt make any difference [20:32] studio_: that is not remotely hard at all [20:33] and given that you are unlikely to have more keys on the device you can just cp id_rsa.pub authorized_keys [20:33] no need to cat [20:33] on pc, "cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub". On phone, "vim ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" and then "i" and then paste it in, save it, set permissions, _done_ [20:33] there is nothing else which needs doing. [20:33] popey, if you understand "how-to" it is easy, but most ppls do not understand [20:34] I disagree, but hey ho. [20:34] you're giving incorrect advice which is muddying the waters. [20:34] this is why phablet-shell does it automatically for you ... ;) [20:34] indeed [20:34] (but phablet-shell needs adb ) [20:35] hi guys, long time no see you [20:36] what's new? [20:36] the phablet shell can connect without problems to an ubuntu-server or RPI-Device. the problem is the other way [20:36] "the phablet shell" ? [20:36] terminal [20:36] i'm talking about the phablet-shell command :) [20:36] that you run on the PC to connect [20:37] (from the phablet-tools PPA ... it gives you a far advanced adb session ... (with working nano support for example ... and not limited to 80x24 chars)) [20:39] is whatsapp supported yet? [20:39] "that you run on the PC to connect" ok ... but i use ssh [20:39] n-iCe: no [20:39] sad [20:39] studio_, because you have working wlan :) [20:39] phablet-shell uses an ssh connection on top of adb ... doesnt need any network [20:40] the problem is to get ssh working for a beginner [20:40] a beginner should just install phablet-shell and call it once [20:40] or just follow one of a million ssh guides online [20:40] after that your ssh is completely set up .. nothing to do [20:40] they're all the same. [20:41] copy key to authorized_keys, set permissions. _done_ [20:41] a beginner is using putty on windows ... [20:41] nope [20:41] a beginner on ubuntu phone is almost certainly using ubuntu [20:41] (or some other linux) [20:41] in the future that will chage [20:41] *change [20:41] popey, beleve me, you are wrong [20:41] and again, there's a million "how to setup ssh" tutorials online [20:42] you don't know what you're talking about :) [20:42] right now, the vast majority of ubuntu phone users are ubuntu users [20:42] in the future that will change, but right now, I'm confident that's the case. [20:43] fist, the rpi was new land for windows users, but now they want more ... [20:45] ogra_, at boot i have few seconds when adb works fine but, next it slows down (very) and slows whole system (10mins for response) [20:45] ouch [20:48] now after few restarts, used every second, I pushed id_rsa.pub to device, cat it to authorized_keys, and set permissions (600 for authorized_keys, and 700 for .ssh) [20:48] still the same error :( [20:49] "id_rsa.pub" same name as your device made??? [20:50] you do not need id_rsa.pub on the device. [20:50] why not? [20:51] you need authorized_keys on the device [20:51] there wasn't .ssh folder in /home/phablet/, so i created it and there is "id_rsa.pub" and "authorized_keys" [20:52] adrian47: ok [20:52] http://pastebin.com/rUpvgYAd [20:52] adrian47: can you show us "ls -ld /home/phablet/.ssh" and "ls -l /home/phablet/.ssh/"? [20:53] adrian47: on your pc, do you have a ~/.ssh/id_rsa file? [20:53] debug3: Could not load "/home/adrian/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key [20:54] Anyone having networking issues? on vivid r126. I have been having multiple issues. Wifi i can have up to 100+ wifi network available in the dash when i walk around my house. 3g does not work very well i need to restart ofono multiple times before getting a network connection it looks like it conflicts with wifi network. The toogle which switch of the wifi does toggle as well the 3g network off. i have had few times at s [20:54] yes, it's in default dir: /home/adrian/.ssh , generated with ssh-keygen [20:54] ok [20:54] can you do those two ls commands above? [20:54] popey, yes [20:54] and also ls -l /home/adrian/.ssh on your pc [20:56] * ogra_ bets your ownership is still not right [20:56] +1 [20:58] popey, please again why he do not need the "id_rsa.pub" from his device? [20:59] I said he doesn't need id_rsa.pub _on_ his device. [20:59] "device" in this context meaning "phone" [20:59] http://pastebin.com/Sy9n9ZfJ [21:00] and when i like to connect to other devices by a shared key? [21:00] http://pastebin.com/0cI1EIxc [21:00] adrian47, root.root ... [21:00] thats your prob [21:00] +1 [21:00] oh [21:01] 20:26 < popey> if you adb push it, it will have the wrong owner and wrong permissions [21:01] :) [21:01] * ogra_ bets your ownership is still not right [21:01] \o/ [21:01] 19:18 < popey> this is the #1 reason why ssh with keys fails on every single platform [21:01] (just to keep rubbing it in there) :D [21:01] haha [21:02] hahah I missed it :D [21:02] it happens to everyone [21:02] at least once [21:03] when i remove authorized_keys file only, and then create it and cat as phablet user it should work? [21:03] just chown it [21:04] chown -R phablet:phablet /home/phablet/.ssh [21:11] popey, tricky if the phablet user doesnt exist ;) [21:11] (in recovery) [21:11] ooh, fun. [21:11] 1000? [21:12] 32011? [21:12] so chown -R 32011 instead of phablet? [21:12] 32011 [21:12] if the recovery chwon allows that [21:12]