[01:22] <ahoneybun> yofel: Riddell I can confirm a problem with nvidia and beta 1
[01:24] <ahoneybun> I installed the nonfree nvidia driver and was unable to start a session
[01:38] <ahoneybun> Riddell: also do we have a banner made for this release?
[03:00] <valorie> ahoneybun: no banner yet, you were being asked for about that
[03:01] <valorie> any ideas?
[03:01] <valorie> is there a launchpad bug about nvidia + sddm?
[03:01] <valorie> if not, file one, but I think there is - please add your input
[06:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:13] <soee> good morning
[08:22] <yofel> ahoneybun: nvidia-340 runs fine on my notebook. Any errors in Xorg.0.log ?
[09:58] <Riddell> bug 1427654 is go
[10:21] <lordievader> Exciting!
[11:08] <mparillo> So the systemd should land in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150310/ ? I assume there will be a call for testers?
[11:13] <Riddell> mparillo: yep
[11:13] <Riddell> feel free to make that call for testers :)
[11:19] <mparillo> Feeling powerful ;-), but I expect http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150310 will land long before I wake.
[11:19] <yofel> from +1: "<rat> This is 11.04 all over again. ;)"
[11:19] <yofel> this will be fun ^^
[11:21] <Riddell> yofel: what's the problem? systemd or something else?
[11:21] <Riddell> and what happened in 11.04?
[11:22] <yofel> systemd on chromebook, and 11.04 was upstart
[11:38] <ahoneybun> yofel: I don't have that system installed anymore so no logs I'll install the driver again later today or tomorrow and grab the log
[11:39] <ahoneybun> valorie: Riddell I have some designs for the banner
[11:55] <Riddell> ahoneybun: great, although there's a small possibility we will have a new website
[11:55] <Riddell> depends if ovidiu-florin does his thing in time or not
[11:55] <mparillo> Based on this, https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67569-Is-15-04-about-to-switch-from-upstart-to-systemd&p=368247&viewfull=1#post368247 we may not need new images to test systemd, just a dist-upgrade
[11:56] <Riddell> mparillo: yep indeed
[11:57] <ahoneybun> Riddell: so no more banner?
[12:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun: dunno ask ovidiu-florin 
[12:09] <Riddell> probably will need banners
[12:10] <soee> we need motto :)
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:23] <Riddell> valorie: is but https://launchpad.net/bugs/1428849 what you wanted?
[12:23] <Riddell> valorie: does sddm have anything to do with nvidia drivers?
[12:35] <soee> woho nvidia-prime version
[12:36] <Streamstormer> Riddell: is the dependency on sddm back?
[12:36] <Riddell> Streamstormer: how do you mean?
[12:38] <Streamstormer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328
[12:41] <soee> Streamstormer: this bug is not about dependency, with sddm installed we can't switch profiles using nvidia-prime
[12:45] <Streamstormer> soee: hm ok.. Do you think you will be able to implement it in sddm in this cycle?
[12:46] <soee> Streamstormer: i am noty developer :) i have no experiance on this field :)
[12:46] <soee> i just reported few bugs related to nvidia-prime as i use it daily on my laptop
[12:47] <soee> Streamstormer: but it is on teh devs tasks list https://trello.com/c/cfvI6Rkp/5-ensure-sddm-works
[12:47] <kubotu> [15.04 :: Doing :: Ensure SDDM works ++ JR]
[12:49] <Streamstormer> soee: ok. Thx for your answers :)
[12:50] <mparillo> dist-upgrade ran fine, systemd-sysv installed, upstart removed, shut down, and re-started fine. I did not notice any obvious improvement in boot times on my VM, and I thought speeding-up boot times was the main benefit end-users were supposed to get from systemd.
[12:51] <soee> i doubt
[12:53] <soee> when some kernel version is removed i se often this warning:
[12:53] <soee> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[12:56] <yofel> mparillo: that's the common headline, but we already have parallel boot since upstart, so for there's little to no difference
[12:56] <yofel> *for us
[13:18] <ScottK> mparillo: If the switch to systemd gets noticed at the user level, then we've screwed up.
[13:20] <mparillo> ScottK: I was hoping to have no functional difference for the end-user, but much faster boots, because I had (dimly) understood that systemd made booting process parallel rather than sequential. But, at least for the *buntus, it sounds as if we already had that..
[13:20] <ScottK> Yep.
[13:21] <ScottK> If you're a sysadmin looking at details of system maintenance there's some additional boot logging stuff and some of the interactions are different, but I've put off learning much about it myself.
[13:22] <mparillo> On Vivid, is anybody having to re-connect to wireless on every boot? It "remembers" my password, but not the connect automatically. I am afraid that upstream will close https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344600 as an *buntu only issue.
[13:24] <mparillo> Following links in various bug reports, I found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1354924 but is the wireless widget in the system tray the same thing as in the Launchpad bug?
[13:33]  * BluesKaj is tired of having to relogin if the mouse isn't moved for 5 mins ...the power settings obviously aren't being used or read
[13:34] <soee> ;]
[13:36] <BluesKaj> and why is "systemctl status" shown as "degraded" ...maybe that's a clue ?
[13:41] <sgclark> morning
[13:42] <soee> good morning sgclark
[13:43] <Riddell> hi sgclark!
[13:43] <Riddell> how's your web server/e-mail?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hey sgclark
[13:45] <sgclark> Riddell: finally done. But spent the weekend sick :(
[13:45] <BluesKaj> systemd-sysv just installed aon the laptop, seems fine so far ...no worries about the nvidia-prime bug there, it's all intel :)
[13:45] <Riddell> sgclark: aww sucks, did you rest and get better?
[13:45] <Riddell> BluesKaj: did you reboot yet? does sddm start?
[13:46] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah I feel better today
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Riddell, yes sddm started fine :)
[13:46] <sgclark> Riddell: so any clue about the merge issue I had, does all this need to be done by hand now?
[13:47]  * sgclark think s that defeats the purpose of ci packaging
[13:49] <Riddell> sgclark: your only problem was you had branches without kubuntu_stable?  then just ignore those branches
[13:49] <Riddell> I think most won't have a kubuntu_stable because most aren't in kubuntu ci yet
[13:49] <sgclark> Riddell: the script barfs
[13:50] <Riddell> which script?
[13:50] <sgclark> initial upload
[13:50] <Riddell> does it try to merge kubuntu_stable?
[13:50] <sgclark> yeah you told me to add a merge line
[13:51] <soee> BluesKaj: what nvidia-prime bug ? 
[13:52] <Riddell> sgclark: ah well then it needs something clever to work out if it has a kubuntu_stable branch or not and only run it if it does
[13:52] <Riddell> or something less clever to just ignore any failures
[13:52] <sgclark> hmm, ok, let me see if my new python skills are up to snuff
[13:54] <BluesKaj> soee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1428328
[13:55] <Riddell> you could run   git branch -a  and check if the output contains kubuntu_stable
[13:55] <Riddell> or you could run  git checkout kubuntu_stable and check if the return is 0 or 1
[13:55] <sgclark> k
[13:55] <soee> BluesKaj: ah yesm but this has nothing to do with systemd, and i thought we aere talking about it :)
[14:02] <Riddell> BluesKaj: did you do a dist-upgrade?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> soee, I had a problem with lightdm and systemd and the nvidia-prime bug which led me to install sddm which didn't work either after X was broken ..assume these bugs are all related to the nvidia-prime problem
[14:03] <sgclark> eww nvidia-prime still a problem? no upgrade for me today
[14:04] <Riddell> sgclark: systemd was changed to default today and maybe this causes problems with nvidia-prime
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Riddell, yes
[14:05] <sgclark> Riddell: ah ok, holding to upgrade after I finish these applications..
[14:05] <yofel> systemd/nvidia-prime uninstallability got fixed by pitti
[14:05] <yofel> it still doesn't work with sddm though
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Riddell, altho my laptop desktop just crashed, but the reboot was successful..gonna check the logs
[14:11] <BluesKaj>  /var/log/syslog says the laptop went into sleep mode, altho it's not set to do so for another 5 mins on low battery, but then crashed on wake up ...have to keep an eye on that one 
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yofel, I just installed the nvidia-340 driver and that seems to fixed things here, but that was before installing sddm 
[14:17] <Riddell> sitter: has kubuntu-ci been tested with systemd? d__ed has a non-working sddm today
[14:21]  * Riddell removes plasma-mediacentre from vivid, it doesn't work with Plasma 5
[16:08] <sgclark> sigh every package fails again
[16:30] <Riddell> sgclark: oh?
[16:33] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah I can't seem to sort where the build is being called, but basically the orig is the dir above build-area and the call expects it to be in the build-area dir
[16:34] <sgclark> I tried a shutil.move call next to the orig rename but alas no go. I have to put on my KDE hat soon..
[16:35] <Riddell> sgclark: so you're calling kubuntu-initial-upload and it's failing on git-buildpackage?
[16:35] <sgclark> yes
[16:35] <sgclark> the orig tarball is in the wrong place
[16:35] <Riddell> I do dislike git-buildpackage
[16:36] <sgclark> it worked before the build-area stuff appeared, who  did that?
[16:36] <Riddell> that's always been made, by git-buildpackage
[16:37] <sgclark> hmm don't recall it, ok..
[16:37] <sgclark> well this script used to work, something changed
[16:40] <Riddell> sgclark: what command are you running? I'll give it a go and see what happens
[16:52] <sgclark> Riddell: ok I hacked the script to move the orig into the right folder.
[16:54] <sgclark> blech but fails somewhere esle now ..
[16:55] <sgclark> fixed
[17:05] <yofel> I really wonder what you do different, it always worked as inteded for me and sitter
[17:05] <yofel> *intended
[17:06] <yofel> and even bzr had a build-area folder, new is just that *everything* should now be in there
[17:06] <yofel> which is a lot cleaner than before
[17:21] <sgclark> yofel: I agree, but for whatever reason the script was putting the orig in the 'package' folder and not build-area for me and therefore the script failed. My script fix has it running fine now, but since I am the only one with this gremlin I will leave the fix local..
[17:41] <yofel> o.O
[17:58] <sgclark> ksnakeduel just barfed, something change?
[17:58] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[18:01] <Riddell> sgclark: yes I did change that upstream, leave for now I guess
[19:14] <Riddell> hmm, I wonder why I don't get muon popping up to say updates are available
[19:14] <Riddell> does anyone else?
[19:15] <sgclark> no
[19:16] <Riddell> hmm
[19:18] <claydoh> not here, until I went into the systray settings and checked the  "updates" option in "extra items"
[19:19] <sgclark> systray settings? where is that?
[19:20] <claydoh> cannot recall if I had to install update-notifier-kde or whichever package
[19:20] <yofel> you don't need that
[19:20] <Riddell> ooh I do have it in my systray
[19:21] <Riddell> I only just noticed it
[19:21] <claydoh> sgclark: right-click the arrow at the right of the systray
[19:21] <Riddell> I wonder if it had been there the whole time
[19:21] <sgclark> ah hah thanks
[19:22] <Riddell> so question is if updates it ticked by default
[19:22]  * Riddell starts virtualbox
[19:22] <sgclark> well it was unticked here
[19:22] <sgclark> ticked now..
[19:22] <claydoh> Riddell: not for me on 2 boxen
[19:22] <sgclark> both laptop and desktop unticked
[19:23] <sgclark> ticked now, I think we can safely say it is not ticked by default
[19:24] <Riddell> things not ticked on live system: printers, updates, touchpad, kde connect
[19:24] <Riddell> touchpad is broken in plasma 5.2, we should remove it from the packaging
[19:24] <Riddell> oh and kate session applet
[19:24] <Riddell> I think we can live without that
[19:25] <sgclark> touchpad still broken? :(
[19:25] <Riddell> sgclark: the applet is broken in plasma 5.2, fixed in plasma 5.3
[19:25] <ahoneybun> Update was not ticked on mine as well
[19:25] <sgclark> ok
[19:25] <Riddell> kate session applet seems broken anyway :(
[19:26] <sgclark> Riddell: yup broken here too
[19:26] <Riddell> the rest don't show unless there's some reason to anyway so I think we can set them all to on
[19:26] <Riddell> question is why isn't it on upstream
[19:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I have some banners for you just have to upload them
[19:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: nice :)
[19:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I have been though all the pages on the Docs I believe
[19:29] <ahoneybun> I'll give it another read though before posting it to the list
[19:29] <sgclark> Riddell: I noticed kdevelop never made it to archive, I have been using it fine, what exactly is the method for single apps like that?
[19:32] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely thanks, I'll add a todo to update the package
[19:33] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm confused, what's the problem with kdevelop?
[19:34] <Riddell> "This is ready in ninjas, just need some testing and approval to push to archive." well test it and upload if you're happy with it, or ask for more testing if you're not
[19:35] <sgclark> from what I can see it is still only in ninjas and never made it to archive
[19:35] <sgclark> Riddell: I have been using it fine. I don't know how to push a single app to archive. Sorry I am stupid
[19:35] <yofel> dput ubuntu .dsc, that's it ;)
[19:36] <Riddell> sgclark: dput ubuntu foo.changes
[19:36] <yofel> listen to Riddell, not me -.-
[19:36] <Riddell> although kdevelop is 4 packages isn't it?
[19:36] <sgclark> it is not going to put all that ppa stuff?
[19:36] <Riddell> all what ppa stuff?
[19:36] <sgclark> yeah it is 4
[19:37] <Riddell> so upload them to ubuntu
[19:37] <sgclark> 4 stuff no go in vivid?
[19:37] <sgclark> err nm
[19:38] <sgclark> I am losing it
[19:38] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://imgur.com/a/yUZul#0
[19:38] <Riddell> did you check behind the fridge? if you lose something it's nearly always there :)
[19:38] <sgclark> lol
[19:38] <jose> cheese?
[19:38] <jose> what?
[19:38]  * jose is hungry
[19:39] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ooh bonny :)
[19:41] <ahoneybun> bonny
[19:41] <ahoneybun> ?
[19:41] <yofel> sgclark: if you mean the ppa version, you'll have to fix that before upload. If you mean the other packages, no, dput will upload exactly what you tell it ^^
[19:42] <yofel> you can ofc. write a magic upload scripts that haunts you if you want :P
[19:42] <yofel> *script
[19:42] <yofel> but usually only harald does that
[19:42] <sgclark> yofel: yeah meant the first one, ok
[19:43] <sgclark> and when I finsih this backport, where do I put it?
[19:43]  * sgclark fears backports now
[19:43] <mparillo> ahoneybun: If you are taking notes, I like the one that looks like the Plasma 5 background: http://imgur.com/a/yUZul#1
[19:43] <yofel> what backport?
[19:43] <sgclark> kdevelop
[19:43] <yofel> huh?
[19:43] <yofel> didn't we talk about uploading to vivid?
[19:43] <sgclark> I am backporting kdevelop top utopic as well
[19:44] <sgclark> yeah, different topic :)
[19:44] <yofel> ah, put it in kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:44] <yofel> *after* testing
[19:44] <sgclark> k, ty
[19:44] <Riddell> maybe put it into kubuntu-ppa/staging and then copy it when tested
[19:44] <yofel> that ^
[19:44] <sgclark> ok well I do not have utopic to actually use it on, so where to put for others to test?
[19:44] <sgclark> ok thanks
[19:46] <ahoneybun> mparillo: that is the Plasma 5 background btw
[19:46] <sgclark> yeah I like that one too ahoneybun
[19:48] <yofel> hm, how about blurring the logo slightly? To me it somehow doesn't fit into the surroundings...  (except on the 3rd one, but there it essentially melts in)
[19:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: better use the 5.2 background not 5.0 one
[19:54] <ahoneybun> Riddell: sgclark mparillo http://imgur.com/5clDXjA
[19:54] <ahoneybun> Riddell: https://kver.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/header.jpg?
[19:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: use version number 15.04 rather than codename
[19:55] <Riddell> yep https://kver.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/header.jpg is the 5.2 wallpaper
[19:55] <Riddell> ahoneybun: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/2560x1600.png
[19:58] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://imgur.com/a/yUZul#4
[19:58] <Riddell> ahoneybun: mm, looking nice
[19:58] <Riddell> now we need a tagline
[19:59] <Riddell> "featuring Plasma 5" or something like that
[19:59] <soee> hiho
[20:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: maybe with this in, I'm not sure https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0/plasma-5-banner.png
[20:01] <Riddell> annoyingly the Updates and other applets are enabled in kubuntu ci images
[20:01] <Riddell> so it's a problem with Plasma 5.2 (or with something on kubuntu)
[20:04] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I found this https://d1099yxbcpf3k9.cloudfront.net/theme/logo/thumbnail/0d99ea8432d00a30b9433d6b1bcf1a15 and this http://www.kdeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/KDE_Plasma_Next_logo-292x300.png
[20:08] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://imgur.com/a/yUZul#1
[20:08] <soee> you need banner ?
[20:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: don't use KDE_Plasma_Next_logo-292x300.png that's the logo for kde's design group
[20:09] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[20:09] <Riddell> https://d1099yxbcpf3k9.cloudfront.net/theme/logo/thumbnail/0d99ea8432d00a30b9433d6b1bcf1a15 is good but I still think the text "plasma 5" is useful to have
[20:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://imgur.com/a/yUZul#0 and https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Welcome
[20:12] <Riddell> looking nice
[20:13] <ahoneybun> cool
[20:14] <Riddell> ahoneybun: send to kubuntu-devel along with the svg or whatever source you have?
[20:15] <ahoneybun> I have a xcf (made in gimp)
[20:15] <Riddell> ahoneybun: that'll do
[20:15] <Riddell> just so we don't forget/lose it
[20:17] <ahoneybun> I'll send the background and the plasma 5 logo incase you want to change anything
[20:18] <Riddell> ah hah, found it, default applets is a hardcoded list at /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.systemtray/contents/config/main.xml in plasma 5.2
[20:25] <ahoneybun> Riddell: someone needs to approve my message as the size is to large for the list
[20:26] <Riddell> done
[20:26] <Riddell> systray patched to add update, print and kdeconnect applets
[20:33] <ahoneybun> Riddell: looks like it was sent thanks
[20:35] <ahoneybun> Riddell: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu :)
[20:37] <Riddell> lovely
[20:42] <ahoneybun> has anyone been able to install steam with no extra work
[20:42] <ahoneybun> just apt-get install steam?
[20:45]  * Riddell out
[20:45] <ahoneybun> should I update the screenshot of system settings here: https://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings
[20:48] <yofel> I think that's how I installed steam, but that was quite a while ago
[20:50] <ahoneybun> in 14.10 I think we had to install USC and then steam
[20:51] <ahoneybun> for some reason it would not show up in a search
[20:51] <ahoneybun> like this https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Software/Games/Steam
[21:08] <ahoneybun> seems google has made a display server http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Is-Ditching-the-X11-Server-for-Freon-475211.shtml
[21:10] <lordievader> Hmm, too bad they don't join forces with Wayland.
[21:17] <ahoneybun> yea
[21:17] <ahoneybun> hey shadeslayer
[21:22] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: hey
[21:22] <ahoneybun> we still have that server siting around lol
[21:22] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: sup
[21:23] <shadeslayer> good, not much, just tired after work
[21:23] <ahoneybun> yea same 
[21:24] <ahoneybun> was someone able to export the Docs into html?
[21:53] <ahoneybun> yofel: where would one file a bug about the nvidia drivers?
[21:54] <ahoneybun> against driver manager?
[21:55] <soee> ahoneybun: what bug ?
[21:55] <yofel> usually against the driver.., but yeah, what bug?
[21:59] <kfunk> sgclark: dependency problems?
[21:59] <ahoneybun> yofel: I could not start a session
[21:59] <ahoneybun> thats what the display manager said when I tried to login
[22:00] <sgclark> kfunk: yep, I have asked for help in the kubuntu-devel list, but for now I have to wear my kde hat and have to set it aside for the moment sorry
[22:01] <yofel> ahoneybun: if sddm starts, you probably don't have driver issues. Can you find something interesting in ~/.xsession-errors?
[22:02] <kfunk> sgclark: sure, no pressure. I'd just like to understand the issue
[22:13] <ahoneybun> yofel: I did not format my home partition so there might be some logs there left
[22:15] <yofel> ahoneybun: it'll write that file when you start your session. So if you tried to log in, there should be *something* in it
[22:16]  * ahoneybun finds sgclark's email in my .xsession-errors lol
[22:17] <ahoneybun> yofel: I think I will have to install the driver again and then look
[22:17] <sgclark> err wut? I am an error... that is no surprise lol
[22:17] <yofel> ahoneybun: like I said, unlikely
[22:17] <ahoneybun> it lists your email lol
[22:18] <yofel> if you don't have errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it's probably not a driver issue
[22:18] <ahoneybun> yofel: it only happened after I installed the driver
[22:18] <yofel> uh, okaaay... o.O
[22:18] <ahoneybun> yofel: I reinstalled after I could not load the session
[22:18] <ahoneybun> so no log there
[22:18] <yofel> ah ok
[22:19] <ahoneybun> yea I can install the driver again get a log for you 
[22:19] <yofel> the mail might be from akonadi / baloo, they have pretty verbose logging ^^
[22:19] <ahoneybun> yea it does say that
[22:19] <ahoneybun> askonadi
[22:19] <yofel> sure, will have to be tomorrow though
[22:19] <yofel> I'm almost falling asleep on the keyboard already ^^
[22:19] <ahoneybun> ok I'll install the driver now and keep the log around
[22:20] <ahoneybun> I have version 340.76 from nvidia-340
[22:21] <ahoneybun> yofel: it could be from the UEFI I have in my machine as well
[22:22] <yofel> I would be rather surprised about that, but with all the weirdness we have lately who knows xD
[22:22] <yofel> anyway, I'm off to bed, gn8
[22:22] <ahoneybun> night
[22:35] <ahoneybun> well for some reason it worked
[22:42] <ahoneybun> I think it might be because I picked lightdm last time
[23:21] <valorie> Riddell: cool, looks like they fixed the nividia driver bug -- just in time
[23:44] <valorie> ah, or not, reading the rest of the backlog
[23:44] <AndChat|675444> valorie: hey
[23:44] <valorie> I was asking for someone else, I don't have nvidia - intel here
[23:45] <AndChat|675444> Ahoneybun here
[23:45] <valorie> hi AndChat|675444 - if you are going to log in from there frequently you can link your accounts
[23:45] <AndChat|675444> Yea I have 20gbs of data so I can login mobile lol
[23:45] <valorie>  do a /msg nickserv help link I believe
[23:45] <AndChat|675444> First I would need another nick
[23:46] <AndChat|675444> Like ahoneybun_mobilr
[23:46] <AndChat|675444> E
[23:46] <valorie> I just can't do irc on a little screen and with thumbtyping
[23:46] <valorie> no, you can just link to ahoneybun
[23:46] <valorie> get a bouncer!
[23:46] <valorie> and then you just login to that
[23:47] <AndChat|675444> Oh
[23:47] <AndChat|675444> You've been saying that
[23:47] <valorie> your banners look great!
[23:47] <valorie> yes, I've been using a bouncer for years
[23:47] <AndChat|675444> I don't like this Nick though
[23:47] <AndChat|675444> Thabks
[23:47] <AndChat|675444> Thanks
[23:47] <valorie> backlog is cruial for the work I do in both kubuntu and KDE
[23:48] <AndChat|675444> I moved a few screenies on the docs
[23:48] <AndChat|675444> And the banner is on there too
[23:49] <valorie> very cool
[23:49] <valorie> have not had a moment to look
[23:49] <valorie> too many things to do every day!
[23:49] <AndChat|675444> I just need to add some screenies of the installer
[23:50] <AndChat|675444> Added a driver section under advanced
[23:50] <AndChat|675444> And Riddell asked for the kubuntu-docs to be updated
[23:50] <AndChat|675444> Package wise
[23:51] <valorie> excellent, I'm glad to see you here and pitching in
[23:51] <valorie> it was a constant nag in the back of my mind, but no time to do it
[23:53] <AndChat|675444> Yea I'll do what I can
[23:54] <AndChat|675444> I saw Ubuntu mate release a video shooting their new features
[23:54] <AndChat|675444> Thinking of doing something similar
[23:55] <valorie> that would be very cool
[23:55] <AndChat|675444> Yep 
[23:55] <valorie> well, need to go fix dinner
[23:55] <AndChat|675444> I compare plasma 4 to plasma 5 like android 4.4 to android 5
[23:56] <valorie> I just wanted you to know that I am happy you are back
[23:56]  * valorie off for a few hours
[23:56] <AndChat|675444> Something great and proven to something even prettier
[23:56] <AndChat|675444> See ya valorie and thanks