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VolUTFancan someone take a look at this output from guvcview and tell me why I am getting a segmentation fault.  I tried this earlier today, and have since replaced my logitech webcam with another different model logitech webcam, still having problems. https://paste.kde.org/p8yb9mfpk01:54
VolUTFani used guvcview a couple of years back with no problems, but you know how that is lol01:55
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kalmeidaHi, i'm from Brazil.03:09
jkummerowIs there anyone available to help me? I was to set up kubuntu as a dual boot with win 8.1, but the installer does not recognize the installed OS03:43
jkummerowguess not03:44
VolUTFanhey04:20
VolUTFansorry, I was playing with the kids.  Wife doing dinner, and I was afk for a bit04:20
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lordievaderGood morning.06:44
NotoriuSgood morning world07:09
soeegood morning07:13
denza252good night for me (UTC-8)07:13
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VolUTFanHey guys09:14
lordievadero/09:16
VolUTFanhey lordie09:24
VolUTFanlordievader: I gave up on using that guvcview.  Something strange about that application now09:38
VolUTFanlordievader: I decided to go with simplescreenrecorder.  Seemed to have done an excellent video09:39
lordievaderVolUTFan: Is that an image viewer? Gwenview is quite nice...09:57
VolUTFanlordievader: no guvcview is a screencapture/webcam capture package.  Like vokoscreen or simplescreenrecorder10:29
VolUTFansorry, been working on a couple of screencasts for youtube10:30
boHello11:32
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BluesKajHiyas all12:16
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remlinejoin #c13:14
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forgeausuh just curious wheres the oxygen-air plasma theme? mine (in saucy) doesn't seem to have the squares (or circles) there used to be... its got air, air for mobile and air for netbooks but they all seem blank14:06
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Anoniem4lBluesKaj: Hello. an update to my situation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1424491?comments=all16:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1424491 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "apt-get fails to install fglrx or fglrx-updates in 14.04.2 and 12.04.5" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:00
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BluesKajAnoniem4l, sorry to hear it's still messed up :/16:22
Anoniem4lyeah well, what can you do? I hope this gets fixed soon....16:24
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BluesKajAnoniem4l, it's a shame there isn'ty more attn paid to the ati/amd driver problem, seems amd linux support has fallen off since amd took over ati , there was great support back 2008 just before the purchase16:37
BluesKajshortly after that I bought a new pc and nvidia 7600gt gpu and it was great up until the card died a couple of yrs ago, but i've conr=tinued with nvidia graphics on our desktop pcs16:39
solarseedHi @ll16:47
solarseedI am trying to build my own kernel for kubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr16:48
solarseedand I am referring to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel16:48
solarseedI have already built my own Kernels for Debian and Gentoo16:48
solarseedBut I have no Idea how to build a Kernel for Kubuntu. I am hanging in the "Modifying the Configuration" Section of the above Link with no Idea where to execute the listed Commands16:49
solarseedcould anyone assist me?16:50
BluesKajsolarseed, most users here don't bother building their own kernels16:51
solarseedbut i do BluesKaj16:51
BluesKaj!kernel16:51
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)16:51
solarseedI'll have a look at this Link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile thanks BluesKaj16:52
solarseedBut I think it is kind of outdated16:53
solarseedIs even anyone here that builds his own Kernel??16:54
solarseedIf so, help would be appreciated16:54
BluesKajsolarseed, maybe , but I haven't seen anyone so far asking about it , except you.16:55
BluesKajit's not a common practice here16:56
solarseedBluesKaj: I am asking because the ability to configure and compile a Kernel from Source ist the true Key to the Advantages of using LINUX16:56
solarseedIf there is no possibility to Compile a Kernel to fit my Special Needs I will kick Kubuntu from my HDD and reinstall Gentoo LINUX16:56
BluesKajsolarseed, perhaps from your POV it is , but others may dispute that16:57
solarseedBluesKaj: I just want to make some minor Changes (1000Hz Low Latency Preemptible Kernel for Core2Duo/newer Xeon16:57
solarseedI already installed the lowlatency Kernel from the Kubuntu Repositories...16:58
BluesKajsolarseed, fine, use gentoo if you must , personally I don't see any advantages, but i'm not a purist, I'm a realist :)16:58
solarseedBut I want to do additional things to fit my neess16:58
solarseedneeds16:58
BluesKajwhich are ?16:58
solarseedHas already been mentioned above BluesKaj16:58
solarseedMaybe I'll switch to Debian instead of Gentoo16:59
BluesKajoh well , that seems more like a philosophy than a real need16:59
solarseedDoes anyone know how Steam will perform within Debian?16:59
BluesKajbest to ask in #debian17:00
solarseedAt last the #steam-overlay works fine in Gentoo17:00
solarseedYeah, right BluesKaj17:00
solarseedBut after all I would prefer to keep Kubuntu by now and compile my own Kernel17:00
solarseedIt does work with 'make menuconfig' and a Kernel from http://kernel.org17:01
BluesKajsolarseed, afaik compiling the kubuntu kernel can ber done, I just don't know of anyone who has.17:01
solarseedThe Kernel compiles and installs, but I get an Error Message after each Boot concerning about the Nvidia Drivers17:01
solarseedBut the Error Message is the only thing. The Nvidia Drivers work anyway...17:01
solarseedBut I want a clean Installation without any Error Messages17:02
BluesKajsolarseed, that could be because the nouveau driver is the default nvidia driver on a new install , not nvidia-331 or 340 etc17:03
solarseedOkay... I will kick off Nouveau support from the Kernel and do it oldschool. Maybe that could fix the Error17:03
BluesKajit might17:03
solarseedNouveau is a Kernel built in... So keeping it off is no Problem with make menuconfig17:04
BluesKajok , if you say so17:04
solarseedOk so far... I git cloned the Kernel Sources. But I am used to finding all the needed things in /usr/src/linux. Now by looking at my /home/user folder I found, that the things are there instead of the formerly mentioned directory17:08
solarseedSo I will try building the Kernel in /home/user now17:08
solarseedWith the Commands for configuring mentioned here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel and retry17:09
BluesKajthat's a pretty old kernel version17:11
solarseedBluesKaj: I use the trusty sources, not the precise ones17:12
solarseedIt absolutely fits my Installation17:12
solarseedAnd it seems to work so far17:12
BluesKajso are you going with the LTS ?17:12
solarseedBut Building the Kernel within the /home dir is new to me. I am used to /usr/src/linux17:12
solarseedYepp, LTS 14.0417:13
solarseedBy git cloning the trusty sources17:13
BluesKajok17:13
BluesKajright , if you must ...is this a class assignment of some sort, it seems so to me for some reason17:14
solarseedhttp://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr.jpg17:17
solarseedYeaaahhh17:17
JiyuhenHi all!17:22
JiyuhenSorry, I am at my beginning of the Kubuntu journey.17:23
JiyuhenDoes anyone know, if it is necessary to delete old Kernels?17:23
Jiyuhenor better even, does anyone have a recommended website, I can dig my teeth in? ( and yes-Google gives a hell of a lot a hits)17:23
solarseedsudo apt-get autoremove does the job Jiyuhen17:24
JiyuhenThanks solarseed!17:24
solarseedBut there is no need for that... except your / filesystem lacks of space17:24
BluesKajJiyuhen, I always keep at least one older one around for safety17:24
solarseedBluesKaj: Here you can see the special things I was after to configure http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr1.jpg http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr2.jpg http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr3.jpg17:25
JiyuhenI am testing Kubuntu now for 2 weeks and I am not missing W7 to be honest. So, I am planing on deleting it and giving Linux more space before re-installing on a smaller partition17:25
JiyuhenThanks BluesKaj17:26
OerHekssolarseed, " sudo apt-get autoremove " does not remove old kernels AFAIK17:28
BluesKajJiyuhen, I still keep W7 around for wife's sake ...have to keep up with it in order to help when W7 has problems17:29
BluesKajOerHeks, I've seen it do so after upgrading to a new kernel when doing a dist-upgrade17:30
JiyuhenI am doing a bit with VB.Net and have some other things, so W7 is not too bad. But in direct comparison, Linux runs much smoother.17:31
JiyuhenI might tonight try to do the mammoth task BluesKaj to delete and re-install and re-partition. 10 GB for Linux is not that much ;-)17:32
BluesKajJiyuhen, recommend  / and /home partitions, with the / partiton at 15G for headroom17:33
solarseedOerHeks: But old Kernel Images17:34
JiyuhenThanks for the tip! My / has 9,3 and /home 3,5 which is not much.17:36
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BluesKajoh my,  /home only 3.5G ? 10 times that for some media files etc at a minimum17:37
JiyuhenExactly BluesKaj! :)  -So tonight, there will be a hell a lot of work coming down on me. :)17:40
lordievaderJiyuhen: /home usually grows much more rapidly than /17:40
lordievaderThis is why lvm is great :D17:40
Jiyuhenlol! Exactly lordievader :)17:41
JiyuhenHope, this works out as smooth as I am planing it to be. :)17:41
solarseedJiyuhen: BluesKaj is right, home should be the bigger one17:42
lordievaderJiyuhen: You are using lvm?17:42
BluesKajJiyuhen, it's not a lot of work if you have a partitioning live cd like gparted , prepartitioning can speed things up so that when the installation of the OS is running there is a straight forward manual option to set the / and /home partition mountpoints17:43
JiyuhenUsing would be an overstatement, as I just started to dig into Kubuntu, but I have it17:43
JiyuhenAlright BluesKaj. I just can see W7 beeing a count. But I am eager to try.17:44
JiyuhenFirst I need some quiet in the house for me beeing able to swear like a sailor if it will. ;-)17:44
lordievaderJiyuhen: Is your /home a logical volume?17:45
BluesKajJiyuhen, how large is your HDD?17:45
lordievaderBecause if that is so, then a 3g /home ain't a problem.17:45
solarseedJiyuhen: At last, don't make the Mistake to use Windows again. LINUX is the definitely better decision and you will have much more fun with it.17:45
lordievaderLVM supports live resizing.17:45
JiyuhenI will have a small partition with W7 for .Net stuff and such.17:46
Jiyuhenlordievader: Complete size is about 80 GB.17:46
Jiyuhen40 GB is owned to W7 atm.17:46
lordievaderNo problem then ;)17:48
lordievaderIf I understand you correctly that is. 80Gb physical volume?17:48
BluesKajok Jiyuhen perhaps 10G for / is enough17:48
Jiyuhen10G for / and 15/home?17:49
Jiyuhenyes, indeed lordievader17:50
lordievaderJiyuhen: Could you pastebin your output of 'lvs'?17:50
solarseedOr even more for /home Jiyuhen17:53
JiyuhenSorry - pastebin?17:54
lordievader!paste17:54
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:54
solarseedJiyuhen: /home is the mount where all your personal data is stored and / contains /boot and all the other relevant mounts for the system17:54
lordievadersolarseed: 15g is a good starting point.17:54
solarseedJiyuhen: If you have additional HDDs you can mount them on /mnt/hdd and make them accessible for your user with 'sudo chown username /mnt/hdd' and 'sudo chgrp users /mnt/hdd'17:55
solarseedJiyuhen: The LINUX Filesystem follows the Rule "Everything is a File" while MS Windows follows the Rule "Every Partition has it's own Drive from c:/ to z:/"17:56
Jiyuhenhttp://imgur.com/tYiJ7xV18:03
Jiyuhenlike this?18:03
lordievaderJiyuhen: Those are not logical volumes...18:04
lordievaderJiyuhen: Extending /home becomes cumbersome this way, as you will likely need to move / and /boot... :(18:04
JiyuhenGood thing Solarseed is, that Kubuntu did recognize the other drives without any issues. So,  I have a bigger NTFS drive for Media stuff ( Movies,Music) but Linux itself does need stuff - right?18:04
JiyuhenOuch! Ok, I am bracing myself then lordievader for a lot of pain18:05
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JiyuhenOk guys - I learned a lot ! Thank you for your help with explaining me some of the stuff :)18:07
JiyuhenI be back later!18:07
JiyuhenThanks again - really appreciate it!18:08
igalichello happy people o/~18:37
igalictoday i installed kubuntu 15.04 and the combination of systemd (now the default after a dist-upgrade) and cryptsetup is not working.18:38
igaliclike, at all. with upstart at least i get to unlock my disks (plural) manually, but with systemd it then hangs trying to kexec the kernel....18:38
claydohigalic: probably #ubuntu+1 is you best bet for pre-release issues18:53
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igalic*nod*19:47
JiyuhenThank you lordie and solar!19:53
JiyuhenEverything worked out just fine19:53
JiyuhenHaven t bothered with re-installing W7 on the smaller partition.19:54
mokushanybody having issues with wifi on vivid? as in, the wifi not working at all? I tried the fixes here but no dice. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226113520:35
mparillomokush:20:42
mparilloNot at all, or having to re-connect every time? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34460020:42
ubottuKDE bug 344600 in applet "Network Manager Widget does not 'remember' to connect to previous WEP network" [Normal,Unconfirmed]20:42
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rosco_yHow do you network two Ubuntu Computers together?21:54
rosco_y(for file sharing)21:54
soeeuse samba ?21:56
lordievaderNFS :D It's faster!21:56
rosco_ysoee, lordievader -- thank you--is NFS "almost" as easy as samba?21:57
rosco_yI thought samba was for networking with a Windows protocal...?21:57
lordievaderrosco_y: Easier I'd say.21:58
rosco_ylordievader: ty, I'll look into it :)21:58
lordievaderrosco_y: Yes it is an opensource implementation of cifs.21:58
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rosco_yEasy is definately good for me, I'm a networking dummy21:59
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rosco_ywhen setting up file sharing between two desktop machines, should I install nfs-common on both machines, or should I install nfs-kernal-server on one of them?22:17
rosco_yI have been trying to install nfs-kernal-server on one, and the nfs-common to the other, but the kernal-server install isn't working22:18
rosco_yI don't actually have a server OS installed on either machine....22:18
rosco_ywell, I guess the how-to documentation is for sharing between two servers....I'd better look some more ....22:19
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