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[01:54] <VolUTFan> can someone take a look at this output from guvcview and tell me why I am getting a segmentation fault.  I tried this earlier today, and have since replaced my logitech webcam with another different model logitech webcam, still having problems. https://paste.kde.org/p8yb9mfpk
[01:55] <VolUTFan> i used guvcview a couple of years back with no problems, but you know how that is lol
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[03:09] <kalmeida> Hi, i'm from Brazil.
[03:43] <jkummerow> Is there anyone available to help me? I was to set up kubuntu as a dual boot with win 8.1, but the installer does not recognize the installed OS
[03:44] <jkummerow> guess not
[04:20] <VolUTFan> hey
[04:20] <VolUTFan> sorry, I was playing with the kids.  Wife doing dinner, and I was afk for a bit
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[06:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:09] <NotoriuS> good morning world
[07:13] <soee> good morning
[07:13] <denza252> good night for me (UTC-8)
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[09:14] <VolUTFan> Hey guys
[09:16] <lordievader> o/
[09:24] <VolUTFan> hey lordie
[09:38] <VolUTFan> lordievader: I gave up on using that guvcview.  Something strange about that application now
[09:39] <VolUTFan> lordievader: I decided to go with simplescreenrecorder.  Seemed to have done an excellent video
[09:57] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Is that an image viewer? Gwenview is quite nice...
[10:29] <VolUTFan> lordievader: no guvcview is a screencapture/webcam capture package.  Like vokoscreen or simplescreenrecorder
[10:30] <VolUTFan> sorry, been working on a couple of screencasts for youtube
[11:32] <bo> Hello
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[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[13:14] <remline> join #c
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[14:06] <forgeaus> uh just curious wheres the oxygen-air plasma theme? mine (in saucy) doesn't seem to have the squares (or circles) there used to be... its got air, air for mobile and air for netbooks but they all seem blank
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[16:00] <Anoniem4l> BluesKaj: Hello. an update to my situation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1424491?comments=all
[16:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1424491 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "apt-get fails to install fglrx or fglrx-updates in 14.04.2 and 12.04.5" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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[16:22] <BluesKaj> Anoniem4l, sorry to hear it's still messed up :/
[16:24] <Anoniem4l> yeah well, what can you do? I hope this gets fixed soon....
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[16:37] <BluesKaj> Anoniem4l, it's a shame there isn'ty more attn paid to the ati/amd driver problem, seems amd linux support has fallen off since amd took over ati , there was great support back 2008 just before the purchase
[16:39] <BluesKaj> shortly after that I bought a new pc and nvidia 7600gt gpu and it was great up until the card died a couple of yrs ago, but i've conr=tinued with nvidia graphics on our desktop pcs
[16:47] <solarseed> Hi @ll
[16:48] <solarseed> I am trying to build my own kernel for kubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr
[16:48] <solarseed> and I am referring to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[16:48] <solarseed> I have already built my own Kernels for Debian and Gentoo
[16:49] <solarseed> But I have no Idea how to build a Kernel for Kubuntu. I am hanging in the "Modifying the Configuration" Section of the above Link with no Idea where to execute the listed Commands
[16:50] <solarseed> could anyone assist me?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> solarseed, most users here don't bother building their own kernels
[16:51] <solarseed> but i do BluesKaj
[16:51] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[16:51] <ubottu> The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)
[16:52] <solarseed> I'll have a look at this Link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile thanks BluesKaj
[16:53] <solarseed> But I think it is kind of outdated
[16:54] <solarseed> Is even anyone here that builds his own Kernel??
[16:54] <solarseed> If so, help would be appreciated
[16:55] <BluesKaj> solarseed, maybe , but I haven't seen anyone so far asking about it , except you.
[16:56] <BluesKaj> it's not a common practice here
[16:56] <solarseed> BluesKaj: I am asking because the ability to configure and compile a Kernel from Source ist the true Key to the Advantages of using LINUX
[16:56] <solarseed> If there is no possibility to Compile a Kernel to fit my Special Needs I will kick Kubuntu from my HDD and reinstall Gentoo LINUX
[16:57] <BluesKaj> solarseed, perhaps from your POV it is , but others may dispute that
[16:57] <solarseed> BluesKaj: I just want to make some minor Changes (1000Hz Low Latency Preemptible Kernel for Core2Duo/newer Xeon
[16:58] <solarseed> I already installed the lowlatency Kernel from the Kubuntu Repositories...
[16:58] <BluesKaj> solarseed, fine, use gentoo if you must , personally I don't see any advantages, but i'm not a purist, I'm a realist :)
[16:58] <solarseed> But I want to do additional things to fit my neess
[16:58] <solarseed> needs
[16:58] <BluesKaj> which are ?
[16:58] <solarseed> Has already been mentioned above BluesKaj
[16:59] <solarseed> Maybe I'll switch to Debian instead of Gentoo
[16:59] <BluesKaj> oh well , that seems more like a philosophy than a real need
[16:59] <solarseed> Does anyone know how Steam will perform within Debian?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> best to ask in #debian
[17:00] <solarseed> At last the #steam-overlay works fine in Gentoo
[17:00] <solarseed> Yeah, right BluesKaj
[17:00] <solarseed> But after all I would prefer to keep Kubuntu by now and compile my own Kernel
[17:01] <solarseed> It does work with 'make menuconfig' and a Kernel from http://kernel.org
[17:01] <BluesKaj> solarseed, afaik compiling the kubuntu kernel can ber done, I just don't know of anyone who has.
[17:01] <solarseed> The Kernel compiles and installs, but I get an Error Message after each Boot concerning about the Nvidia Drivers
[17:01] <solarseed> But the Error Message is the only thing. The Nvidia Drivers work anyway...
[17:02] <solarseed> But I want a clean Installation without any Error Messages
[17:03] <BluesKaj> solarseed, that could be because the nouveau driver is the default nvidia driver on a new install , not nvidia-331 or 340 etc
[17:03] <solarseed> Okay... I will kick off Nouveau support from the Kernel and do it oldschool. Maybe that could fix the Error
[17:03] <BluesKaj> it might
[17:04] <solarseed> Nouveau is a Kernel built in... So keeping it off is no Problem with make menuconfig
[17:04] <BluesKaj> ok , if you say so
[17:08] <solarseed> Ok so far... I git cloned the Kernel Sources. But I am used to finding all the needed things in /usr/src/linux. Now by looking at my /home/user folder I found, that the things are there instead of the formerly mentioned directory
[17:08] <solarseed> So I will try building the Kernel in /home/user now
[17:09] <solarseed> With the Commands for configuring mentioned here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel and retry
[17:11] <BluesKaj> that's a pretty old kernel version
[17:12] <solarseed> BluesKaj: I use the trusty sources, not the precise ones
[17:12] <solarseed> It absolutely fits my Installation
[17:12] <solarseed> And it seems to work so far
[17:12] <BluesKaj> so are you going with the LTS ?
[17:12] <solarseed> But Building the Kernel within the /home dir is new to me. I am used to /usr/src/linux
[17:13] <solarseed> Yepp, LTS 14.04
[17:13] <solarseed> By git cloning the trusty sources
[17:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:14] <BluesKaj> right , if you must ...is this a class assignment of some sort, it seems so to me for some reason
[17:17] <solarseed> http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr.jpg
[17:17] <solarseed> Yeaaahhh
[17:22] <Jiyuhen> Hi all!
[17:23] <Jiyuhen> Sorry, I am at my beginning of the Kubuntu journey.
[17:23] <Jiyuhen> Does anyone know, if it is necessary to delete old Kernels?
[17:23] <Jiyuhen> or better even, does anyone have a recommended website, I can dig my teeth in? ( and yes-Google gives a hell of a lot a hits)
[17:24] <solarseed> sudo apt-get autoremove does the job Jiyuhen
[17:24] <Jiyuhen> Thanks solarseed!
[17:24] <solarseed> But there is no need for that... except your / filesystem lacks of space
[17:24] <BluesKaj> Jiyuhen, I always keep at least one older one around for safety
[17:25] <solarseed> BluesKaj: Here you can see the special things I was after to configure http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr1.jpg http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr2.jpg http://linux-is-lord.de/kernelconfig-trustytahr3.jpg
[17:25] <Jiyuhen> I am testing Kubuntu now for 2 weeks and I am not missing W7 to be honest. So, I am planing on deleting it and giving Linux more space before re-installing on a smaller partition
[17:26] <Jiyuhen> Thanks BluesKaj
[17:28] <OerHeks> solarseed, " sudo apt-get autoremove " does not remove old kernels AFAIK
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Jiyuhen, I still keep W7 around for wife's sake ...have to keep up with it in order to help when W7 has problems
[17:30] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, I've seen it do so after upgrading to a new kernel when doing a dist-upgrade
[17:31] <Jiyuhen> I am doing a bit with VB.Net and have some other things, so W7 is not too bad. But in direct comparison, Linux runs much smoother.
[17:32] <Jiyuhen> I might tonight try to do the mammoth task BluesKaj to delete and re-install and re-partition. 10 GB for Linux is not that much ;-)
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Jiyuhen, recommend  / and /home partitions, with the / partiton at 15G for headroom
[17:34] <solarseed> OerHeks: But old Kernel Images
[17:36] <Jiyuhen> Thanks for the tip! My / has 9,3 and /home 3,5 which is not much.
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[17:37] <BluesKaj> oh my,  /home only 3.5G ? 10 times that for some media files etc at a minimum
[17:40] <Jiyuhen> Exactly BluesKaj! :)  -So tonight, there will be a hell a lot of work coming down on me. :)
[17:40] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: /home usually grows much more rapidly than /
[17:40] <lordievader> This is why lvm is great :D
[17:41] <Jiyuhen> lol! Exactly lordievader :)
[17:41] <Jiyuhen> Hope, this works out as smooth as I am planing it to be. :)
[17:42] <solarseed> Jiyuhen: BluesKaj is right, home should be the bigger one
[17:42] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: You are using lvm?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Jiyuhen, it's not a lot of work if you have a partitioning live cd like gparted , prepartitioning can speed things up so that when the installation of the OS is running there is a straight forward manual option to set the / and /home partition mountpoints
[17:43] <Jiyuhen> Using would be an overstatement, as I just started to dig into Kubuntu, but I have it
[17:44] <Jiyuhen> Alright BluesKaj. I just can see W7 beeing a count. But I am eager to try.
[17:44] <Jiyuhen> First I need some quiet in the house for me beeing able to swear like a sailor if it will. ;-)
[17:45] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: Is your /home a logical volume?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Jiyuhen, how large is your HDD?
[17:45] <lordievader> Because if that is so, then a 3g /home ain't a problem.
[17:45] <solarseed> Jiyuhen: At last, don't make the Mistake to use Windows again. LINUX is the definitely better decision and you will have much more fun with it.
[17:45] <lordievader> LVM supports live resizing.
[17:46] <Jiyuhen> I will have a small partition with W7 for .Net stuff and such.
[17:46] <Jiyuhen> lordievader: Complete size is about 80 GB.
[17:46] <Jiyuhen> 40 GB is owned to W7 atm.
[17:48] <lordievader> No problem then ;)
[17:48] <lordievader> If I understand you correctly that is. 80Gb physical volume?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> ok Jiyuhen perhaps 10G for / is enough
[17:49] <Jiyuhen> 10G for / and 15/home?
[17:50] <Jiyuhen> yes, indeed lordievader
[17:50] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: Could you pastebin your output of 'lvs'?
[17:53] <solarseed> Or even more for /home Jiyuhen
[17:54] <Jiyuhen> Sorry - pastebin?
[17:54] <lordievader> !paste
[17:54] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[17:54] <solarseed> Jiyuhen: /home is the mount where all your personal data is stored and / contains /boot and all the other relevant mounts for the system
[17:54] <lordievader> solarseed: 15g is a good starting point.
[17:55] <solarseed> Jiyuhen: If you have additional HDDs you can mount them on /mnt/hdd and make them accessible for your user with 'sudo chown username /mnt/hdd' and 'sudo chgrp users /mnt/hdd'
[17:56] <solarseed> Jiyuhen: The LINUX Filesystem follows the Rule "Everything is a File" while MS Windows follows the Rule "Every Partition has it's own Drive from c:/ to z:/"
[18:03] <Jiyuhen> http://imgur.com/tYiJ7xV
[18:03] <Jiyuhen> like this?
[18:04] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: Those are not logical volumes...
[18:04] <lordievader> Jiyuhen: Extending /home becomes cumbersome this way, as you will likely need to move / and /boot... :(
[18:04] <Jiyuhen> Good thing Solarseed is, that Kubuntu did recognize the other drives without any issues. So,  I have a bigger NTFS drive for Media stuff ( Movies,Music) but Linux itself does need stuff - right?
[18:05] <Jiyuhen> Ouch! Ok, I am bracing myself then lordievader for a lot of pain
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[18:07] <Jiyuhen> Ok guys - I learned a lot ! Thank you for your help with explaining me some of the stuff :)
[18:07] <Jiyuhen> I be back later!
[18:08] <Jiyuhen> Thanks again - really appreciate it!
[18:37] <igalic> hello happy people o/~
[18:38] <igalic> today i installed kubuntu 15.04 and the combination of systemd (now the default after a dist-upgrade) and cryptsetup is not working.
[18:38] <igalic> like, at all. with upstart at least i get to unlock my disks (plural) manually, but with systemd it then hangs trying to kexec the kernel....
[18:53] <claydoh> igalic: probably #ubuntu+1 is you best bet for pre-release issues
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[19:47] <igalic> *nod*
[19:53] <Jiyuhen> Thank you lordie and solar!
[19:53] <Jiyuhen> Everything worked out just fine
[19:54] <Jiyuhen> Haven t bothered with re-installing W7 on the smaller partition.
[20:35] <mokush> anybody having issues with wifi on vivid? as in, the wifi not working at all? I tried the fixes here but no dice. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2261135
[20:42] <mparillo> mokush:
[20:42] <mparillo> Not at all, or having to re-connect every time? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344600
[20:42] <ubottu> KDE bug 344600 in applet "Network Manager Widget does not 'remember' to connect to previous WEP network" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
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[21:54] <rosco_y> How do you network two Ubuntu Computers together?
[21:54] <rosco_y> (for file sharing)
[21:56] <soee> use samba ?
[21:56] <lordievader> NFS :D It's faster!
[21:57] <rosco_y> soee, lordievader -- thank you--is NFS "almost" as easy as samba?
[21:57] <rosco_y> I thought samba was for networking with a Windows protocal...?
[21:58] <lordievader> rosco_y: Easier I'd say.
[21:58] <rosco_y> lordievader: ty, I'll look into it :)
[21:58] <lordievader> rosco_y: Yes it is an opensource implementation of cifs.
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[21:59] <rosco_y> Easy is definately good for me, I'm a networking dummy
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[22:17] <rosco_y> when setting up file sharing between two desktop machines, should I install nfs-common on both machines, or should I install nfs-kernal-server on one of them?
[22:18] <rosco_y> I have been trying to install nfs-kernal-server on one, and the nfs-common to the other, but the kernal-server install isn't working
[22:18] <rosco_y> I don't actually have a server OS installed on either machine....
[22:19] <rosco_y> well, I guess the how-to documentation is for sharing between two servers....I'd better look some more ....
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