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adrian47popey, ogra_, ssh works now, but when i connect there is the same situation as with adb :(00:23
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zonoHey. Are there any common things that keep the wifi and bluetooth from working?02:10
ahoneybunzono: drivers02:10
ahoneybunoh crap this is the touch channel sorry02:11
zonolol. no problem :-)02:11
ahoneybunis it the Nexus 4?02:11
zonoNo nook hd+. I just ported touch to it.02:11
ahoneybunoh ok cool02:14
zonoFunny thing wifi worked on saucy but isn't on vivid.02:14
ahoneybunstill cool that it boots and everything zono02:15
dobeyzono: drivers :)02:16
zonodefinitely is to have the latest booting :-)02:17
dobeyzono: if there was a saucy image for it, that was probably based on CM. you'd need the proper drivers for the AOSP build to get the latest version of ubuntu working on it.02:18
zonodobey. I'm using cm11 for vivid and the specified drivers in the boardcommonconfig. Still a problem?02:21
zonoas far as I can tell in the logs, the drivers are fine.02:21
dobeyzono: the official images for nexus devices (and retail phones) is based on AOSP, and the porting guide is based around building AOSP. if you managed to get it working using CM11 then cool, but it's not the supported way to build ubuntu images for devices02:22
zonohmm interesting. That could explain it. Thanks :-)02:27
dobeyno problem. later :)02:28
zonodobey. I'm dumb sometimes lol. I had used the aosp source via the porting guide and device & kernel from use with cm11.02:39
zonoand vendor.02:40
zonoThough I now see the vendor files are slightly different from back then. See what happens.02:45
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roastedhi04:35
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dholbachgood morning07:46
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adrian47ogra_,popey, are you here? :)11:43
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popeyogra_: does "phablet-dev-bootstrap foo" just sit there for ages doing nothing usually?12:26
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ogra_popey, no idea, i havent run that command in about a year :P12:31
ogra_but it downloads several GB12:32
ogra_should be verbose though12:32
popeyit says "Invalid clone.bundle file; ignoring" then sits there12:32
popeyits downloaded 6.5M and nothing is moving12:33
popeyogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056811112:43
popeyfatal: cannot obtain manifest https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/p/aosp/platform/manifest.git12:43
popeyERROR:phablet-dev-bootstrap:Error while trying to sync repository12:43
ogra_popey, ask rsalveti janimo or sergiusens  ... i really rarely do anything with the android trees12:44
popeykk12:44
adrian47ogra_, popey, many thanks to you guys, ssh works (almost) now, but there is the same situation as with adb, when i connect whole system hangs, it's really strange12:45
rsalvetiwe have issues (from time to time) with this server12:45
rsalvetilet me try it here12:45
rsalvetisometimes we just need to restart the gerrit server in there12:45
rsalvetisimple git clone https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/p/aosp/platform/manifest.git is failing12:52
popeysuper12:52
popeyrsalveti: who can do the restart? is it an IS thing?12:55
adrian47interesting is that, when i pushed files to /home/phablet/ from adb, system didn't seen them, but pushing to /etc/ worked12:55
rsalvetipopey: yup, asked in IS already12:56
adrian47I had to create some script to copy files from /etc to /home/pablet at boot, then it worked12:56
popeyrsalveti: super, thanks.12:56
adrian47" /home/phablet/ from 'recovery' adb"*12:57
Ihakhhi12:57
Ihakhis there any way to make a dual boot from the images here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ ?12:58
Ihakhanyone here?12:59
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Ihakhhi13:00
IhakhI have question13:00
Ihakhplease help me13:00
Ihakhhi13:02
Ihakhhi13:02
Ihakhhello????13:03
popeyhello13:04
popey!ask | Ihakh13:04
ubot5Ihakh: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:04
popeyIhakh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation13:05
IhakhI did the dual installation13:06
Ihakhand dual boot app dowloaded the ubuntu touch13:06
Ihakhbut when I press the restart to ubuntu buttun It will restart to recovery13:07
Ihakhhow can I fix this?13:07
dobeywhat device?13:07
Ihakhnexus 713:08
dobeyhave you tried multirom app from the play store?13:08
Ihakhyes but I remove it13:09
dobeyit should work afaik13:09
Ihakhis there any code to run in shell that fix mine?13:10
Ihakhmy question is what exactly dual boot app do that ruin the recovery13:11
IhakhI think that it is not working on lollipop13:14
dobeyvery likely13:14
dobeymultirom should work though i think13:14
Ihakhmultirom said that my device not support the ubuntu touch so I removed it13:16
Ihakhanyone knows how to prevent recovery from booting insted of ubuntu touc?13:26
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Ihakhanyone knows how to prevent recovery from booting instead of ubuntu touch?13:32
Ihakhanyone knows how to prevent recovery from booting instead of ubuntu touch?13:37
popeyIhakh: please don't keep asking repeatedly13:40
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adrian47What about adb and ssh hanging Ubuntu Touch system? Is there a way to debug it?13:57
jgdxadrian47, device? And what does adb devices say?13:59
adrian47It's my port to HTC DHD, when I turn on debugging or connect with ssh (connections work) but then whole system hangs, does not respond to touch, sometimes abd commands works but slooowly14:01
jgdxsounds like something is consuming 100% of the cpu14:03
adrian47jgdx, sometimes at boot i have 3-5 seconds (when still in spinning logo) to use adb, and then it works good, but next all hangs14:03
jgdxadrian47, if you start top on your phone and then ssh in you should eventually be able to see what process is crapping on your phone14:04
adrian47I tought about it, it looks like that14:04
adrian47when I do ssh all hangs, I can't use it and need pull out battery14:05
jgdxoh14:05
jgdxmpt, ping14:06
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lotuspsychjertm 14.09 is realy fantastic on my nexus7 tnx guys!!14:21
lotuspsychjenot one single issue on it and works smoother then channel=devel14:22
ogra_:)14:25
ogra_and we dont even do any QA for rtm on tablets :)14:26
lotuspsychjewell om in rtm 14.09 proposed ogra_14:26
ogra_heh, eah14:26
ogra_*yeah14:26
lotuspsychjeas the normal rtm 14.09 gave me error14:27
ogra_we have never promoted flo images in rtm i think14:28
ogra_as i said, we dont do any QA at all for tablets in RTM14:28
lotuspsychjebut it works pretty nice on proposed :p14:28
lotuspsychjeyou guys should work from rtm to tablets version14:29
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ogra_once there are tablet manufacturers14:32
ogra_RTM = "release to manufacturer"14:32
lotuspsychjeogra_: but if you know rtm works better then the devel version...14:32
lotuspsychjegoes superfast and smooth on my n714:32
ogra_vivid will be synced into RTM very soon14:33
lotuspsychjeso you mean switching a nexus7 to vivid will go as smooth as the rtm?14:33
Ihakhanyone knows how to prevent recovery from booting instead of ubuntu touch?14:36
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ogra_lotuspsychje, no idea ... as i said, we dont really care for tablets in RTM ...14:37
ogra_14.09 wil be history soon though and RTM will be synced with vivid14:38
lotuspsychjeogra_: ok lemme rephrase, wh would be the best version to install on a nexus7 besides channel=devel?14:38
ogra_devel-proposed perhaps :)14:38
dobeythe "rtm as a distro" concept will go away soon i hope anyway. and it will just then be stable pointing at vivid14:39
lotuspsychjeogra_: but wont devel proposed have the same feeling as devel14:39
dobey"feeling" ?14:39
ogra_not really, no14:39
dobeyi hope it doesn't have feelings14:39
lotuspsychjelol14:39
dobeyif it does, run :P14:40
ogra_devel is really outdated14:40
lotuspsychjeand devel proposed will receive more updates then<?14:40
lotuspsychjewhat a huge list of images, how will the normal user know wich to choose :p14:42
davmor2lotuspsychje: devel-proposed is like 15.04 daily iso, devel is like alpha/beta/rc  so it is a more stabilised version of the daily images. Currently we are not pushing devel-proposed images to devel but soon we will and the devel channel should be much more stable and up-to-date14:42
dobeylotuspsychje: -proposed == ~daily images14:43
lotuspsychjeok so ill do the switch to devel proposed then14:43
Ihakh:(14:47
Ihakhplz some one tell me how to prevent recovery from booting instead of ubuntu touch?14:47
Ihakh:(14:47
lotuspsychjeIhakh: what kind of devices do you have?14:48
Ihakhnexus 714:48
ogra_Ihakh, what device and what did you do to get there ?14:48
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IhakhI installed dual boot but instead of reboot to ubuntu I reboot to recovery14:49
* ogra_ has no idea about dual boot, never used it 14:49
ogra_(and we never officially supported it)14:49
dobeyand we don't support android 5.x14:50
dobeyIhakh: switch to android 4.4 and try again?14:50
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Ihakhthanks14:52
roastedHi15:59
oSoMoNrpadovani, hey, I tested https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/newTabRefactoring/+merge/247498 again, and I’m seeing some issues, see my comment16:17
roastedDoes Ubuntu touch have a messaging app? (Hangouts style, not text message style)16:22
dobeyroasted: there is no hangouts app, no. the main messaging app may likely become useful for more general IM usage in the future though16:27
Elleoroasted: there's also telegram16:27
roastedDoes telegram only message telegram to telegram users?16:28
dobeyright, but it's not a general messaging app. it's specific to the telegram service. there are also several other chat oriented web apps for specific chat services16:28
Elleoroasted: yep16:28
roastedWhat's the name of the messaging app by Ubuntu?16:29
DonkeyHoteimy hammerhead arrives today so i'll be able to hack on ubuntu touch within the next few hours16:29
dobeyroasted: messaging-app16:29
dobeyjust "Messaging" on the phone16:30
roasteddobey: ahh. I figured it would have some specific name. :P16:30
roasteddobey: I assume that's just a text messenger? I.e. not something you can log into on the computer and utilize?16:33
dobeyroasted: it only deals with SMS right now. it uses telepathy as a back-end though, so getting it to support other general IM systems properly is mostly a matter of UI changes, and then some changes on the phone to be able to install/use additional backends for telepathy16:39
roastedSounds awesome and very promising16:40
dobeyi don't know if design has made up/published designs to deal with that though, or if any other progress has been made in that direction16:46
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seb128mpt, bug #1419866, so you prefer to disable the device selection rather than disabling the "connect" button? (not sure if it could be useful to look at the details of a device you can't connect to, also it's not very obvious to the user why that the reason you can't select the device is because not supported)17:23
ubot5bug 1419866 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[bluetooth] Computer pairing is unimplemeted but the UI still let you try it" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141986617:23
seb128mandel, kenvandine, hey, did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1429022 ? any idea what debug extra info would be useful there if any?17:31
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1429022 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "click update fails without giving much details" [Undecided,New]17:31
mandelseb128, hm.. let me finish an mr I have to deal with that is very urgent and I'll take a look17:32
seb128mandel, no hurry, thanks17:32
mandelseb128, the udm logs will show the stdout of the click call, that might be helpful17:32
seb128mandel, where are those?17:33
mandelseb128, ~/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager17:33
seb128thanks17:33
mardydidrocks: hi, still there?17:37
didrocksmardy: hey, not for long, but yeah17:41
mardydidrocks: cool! Quick question: where are the migration script installed?17:41
didrocksmardy: hum, which migration script?17:42
didrocksoh17:42
didrocksdh-migrations17:42
mardydbarth_: I need to leave now, in a hurry! But didrocks should know ^17:42
mardydidrocks: yep17:42
didrocksmardy: dbarth_: /usr/share/session-migration/scripts/17:42
dobeydbarth_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/man1/dh_migrations.1.html17:43
dbarth_dobey: ah17:44
dbarth_didrocks: thanks17:44
didrocksdbarth_: but yeah, as dobey told, if you use my dh helpers in package build, it will be installed at the right place17:44
didrocks(have the execution bits and so on…)17:44
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dbarth_nope, i can't see the acl-updater script17:45
didrocksdbarth_: would worth looking the package shipping it17:46
didrocksdbarth_: I can have a look if needed tomorrow if you ping me and know the package name17:46
dobeydbarth_: can't see it where?17:46
dobeyhmm17:47
dobeyindeed17:47
dbarth_dobey: maybe you can try silo 010 or check the branch to see what's wrong17:49
dbarth_i'm a bit at a loss at this stage, and that's still a very much wanted fix for the image17:49
dobeydbarth_: i don't know what's wrong. i just checked the build log and i see it's not in the files listing of the package :-/17:49
dbarth_right, so that explains17:50
dobeyand dh is called --with migrations17:50
dobeyand dh_migrations is being run17:50
dbarth_dobey: ok, so that part works; except the file is not there17:51
dobeydbarth_: because the file doesn't exist.17:53
dbarth_dobey: not in the branch?17:54
dobeydbarth_: because the migrations file has "obj-*/" from the previous revision when it was not a script, but a compiled object17:55
dbarth_ugh17:55
dobeydbarth_: so the file it's trying to copy doesn't exist. i don't know why it doesn't error out during the build, though17:55
dobeyshould have caught that earlier :-/17:56
dbarth_dobey: so i should strip the obj-*/ and just leave "acl-updater/acl-updater" right ?17:57
dobeydbarth_: i think so, yes17:57
dobeysince that is where the file is, in the source.17:58
dobeyprobably should be renamed too, so that it's properly namespaced for the package, but eh17:58
dobeydbarth_: what is the cut-off time for landing this for the w11 image? i still haven't got an answer from anyone about when that cut-off time is :(18:00
dbarth_dobey: i'm told we're the last bit missing before they cut :/18:01
dobeydbarth_: ah, well i'm wanting to get a new pay-ui package built and in the image too. but haven't been able to get an ack on it :-/18:02
dbarth_dobey: i have re-created the mp, since mardy is not available to merge right now18:03
dbarth_dobey: https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/ubuntuone-credentials/acl-updater-script/+merge/25234618:03
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dbarth_getting the silo reconfig'ed meanwhile18:05
dobeyok18:05
dobeydbarth_: ping me when the silo is rebuilding, that's probably the easiest way to check that it's right now18:05
dbarth_dobey: yup, will do; thanks18:06
ogra_beuno, yo ... if i have an old click app that used the old namespace and now uploada new version that uses the new namespace, will everything "just work" ? or hav i to remove the old one from the store and add the new one newly ?18:08
beunoogra_, either uploads using the old namespace18:11
beunoor upload with new one, unpublish the old one18:11
ogra_ah, so there is no way to just transition ?18:11
beunoogra_, not at the moment, no18:12
lotuspsychjeogra_: this is the channel i need right? ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed (alias to ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed)18:12
ogra_k, thanks18:12
ogra_lotuspsychje, thats the daily vivid builds, yep18:13
lotuspsychjeokay here i go tnx18:13
lotuspsychje2015/03/09 19:15:26 Flashing version 126 from devel-proposed channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device flo18:15
lotuspsychjegreat :p18:15
lotuspsychjeogra_: 2015/03/09 19:20:24 Rebooting into recovery to flash :p18:22
ogra_good18:22
lotuspsychjeogra_: ok worked nice n smooth tnx alot mate 15.04 r12618:26
ogra_)18:26
dbarth_dobey: silo ready for testing; i will revert to image #16 and then install the silo, reboot and upgrade to #18 to verify18:58
dobey-rwxr-xr-x root/root       876 2015-03-09 18:14 ./usr/share/session-migration/scripts/acl-updater18:59
dobeyit's in the package now18:59
dbarth_cool19:03
dobeydbarth_: marked your branch as approved, and rejected mardy's19:07
dbarth_dobey: ok; so far so good; it upgraded my account with the ACL and TOKENS table being ok19:07
dbarth_now upgrading19:08
dobeydbarth_: reboot a few times with it installed, and then check the signon.db, to be sure it does the right thing19:09
dbarth_hmm, i'm updating now; you fear the migration script could be re-triggered?19:10
jgdxhey kenvandine, do you have time for a settings review? If not, that's okay.19:13
dobeydbarth_: migration scripts are just run every time the user logs in, i think19:13
kenvandinejgdx, i can today19:13
kenvandinejgdx, hotspot?19:14
jgdxkenvandine, woo, yes https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/hotspots-binding/+merge/25229619:14
dobeydbarth_: a few reboots at least verifies the data is correct, whether they are being run every time or not19:14
kenvandinejgdx, i had looked at that, do you know why the CI failed?19:14
jgdxkenvandine, I'm not too happy about the private side of that binding, so suggestions/critique is very welcome!119:14
jgdxkenvandine, seems like a spurious tz failure, but I will look into it.19:15
kenvandinejgdx, we had stopped getting those19:16
jgdxkenvandine, and it's not feature complete on the UI side, because I wanted that to be in its own branch. But maybe that's a bad idea, idk.19:16
jgdxkenvandine, oh19:17
kenvandinejgdx, makes it harder to test19:17
jgdxkenvandine, okay, then I'll move the ui forward.19:17
jgdxkenvandine, so no review today19:17
kenvandinethe tz failure may be triggered by your tests19:17
kenvandinejgdx, try this though19:18
kenvandinecomment out the tests for a CI run19:18
kenvandineand see if it passes19:18
kenvandinejgdx, and i don't mind them being in separate branches19:19
dbarth_dobey: i am now on #19, but when going into system settings > OS > updates, it breaks right after displaying available upgrade19:19
dbarth_s19:19
dbarth_hmm, scratch that, it is just switching to install real fast19:19
kenvandinejgdx, we'll just need to land them together, if we use separate branches19:19
dbarth_pfew19:19
kenvandinebecause we'll need something for QA to test19:19
dobeydbarth_: hmm ok19:20
jgdxkenvandine, didn't add a test though.19:20
dbarth_dobey: i'm just waiting for the last upgrade cycle to finish to declare the fix ok19:23
dbarth_dobey: i'll do some regression testing right after19:23
dobeyok19:26
kenvandinejgdx, there are 4 new tests19:33
dbarth_dobey: seems ok here; i tried updates, app installs and attempt to buy an app19:36
dbarth_dobey: maybe you can give it a try, but i'll declare the silo good to go at this stage19:36
dbarth_dobey: ok for you?19:36
dobeydbarth_: i'm ok with it from just reading the code and seeing the build log, yes19:37
dobeydbarth_: if it was going to not work, then the account would not be there and you'd have to log in again :)19:37
jgdxkenvandine, that's dangling helpers from the hotspot testcase. Not sure how they snuck in. Anyway, back to wip to get the ui stuffs in.19:39
kenvandinejgdx, ok19:39
kenvandinecool19:39
dbarth_dobey: ok cool19:40
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popeybfiller: dunno if you realise but the screenshots for phone, contacts, messaging etc are all quite old. you can see them if you long press on the apps on the phone.20:25
bfillerpopey: yuck20:26
bfillerpopey: mind filing a bug on for that20:26
popeyya20:27
popeybfiller: bug 143000420:32
ubot5bug 1430004 in messaging-app "Screenshot(s) outdated when accessed from device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143000420:32
bfillerpopey: thanks20:32
popeydammit, so close to getting a round number20:32
nuclearbobwhere is the documentation for the ubuntu-app-launch tools, in particular ubuntu-app-watch?20:38
nuclearbobtedg: is there documentation for ubuntu-app-watch somewhere?20:40
tedgnuclearbob, No, not really. It's pretty simple though.20:40
tedgnuclearbob, What's up?20:40
tedgnuclearbob, It basically just grabs all the events from libual and prints them.20:41
nuclearbobtedg: I'm grepping the output with grep -m1, and I want to exit after I've seen a particular app stop.  The process doesn't seem to terminate, however20:41
nuclearbobI basically want the opposite of ubuntu-app-wait20:41
tedgnuclearbob, Oh, please don't do that, use the libual bindings :-)20:41
nuclearbobtedg: okay, can do, thanks20:42
nuclearbobevery time I do this, you remind me those exist, and they're way better :)20:42
tedgnuclearbob, You might need to watch both for failed and stop20:42
nuclearbobtedg: that's also a good idea.  In this case, I'm sending an explicit stop20:42
nuclearbobtedg: can you remind me where the libual documentation is?20:43
tedgnuclearbob, I don't have it generated anywhere :-(  You'll have to look in the header file, it's all there.20:44
nuclearbobtedg: okay, can do20:44
tedgNot sure where that should even go.20:44
tedgI don't think we'd want it on developer.u.c, but there's no where else really.20:45
nuclearbobhmm20:45
nuclearbobI don't know20:45
ahoneybunhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2015/03/09/the-mobile-dev-test-conference-is-a-six-day-event-for-mobile-app-development-and-testing-happening-april-12th-17th-in-san-diego-sponsored-post/21:42
laszlo-karpatinik90: are u here?21:54
nik90laszlo-karpati: yes21:54
laszlo-karpatinik90: i had a problem with compiling the clock app, and you tried to help me at the last weekend21:57
laszlo-karpatinik90: i just found the problem21:57
nik90laszlo-karpati: ah21:58
laszlo-karpatinik90: i was on the RTM channel. That caused the problem21:58
laszlo-karpatiNow I switched to vivid-prop, and it working fine :)21:59
nik90laszlo-karpati: oh..but the vivid branch is almost the same as the trunk-rtm22:00
nik90but glad to know it worked22:00
laszlo-karpati I thought it too22:01
laszlo-karpatinik90: I'm just thinking about to develop a tiny feature to the clock app. Just to see how it goes on ubuntu touch22:09
nik90laszlo-karpati: ooh I am curious...any hints to what it might be?22:09
laszlo-karpatinik90: I have not decided yet. Maybe a custom (editable) snooze and "silence after" time22:15
nik90laszlo-karpati: Both of them are handled by datetime-indicator..the clock app only shows the options it is provided by the datetime-indicator22:17
nik90laszlo-karpati: so if you want it to work, the patch would also be required in datetime-indicator22:17
laszlo-karpatinik90: hm thanks.. it doesn't seems easy :)22:27
nik90laszlo-karpati: the clock app is constrained like every other app. As such it cannot ring the alarms...instead the datetime indicator does it on behalf of the clock app and hence the required upstream patch to have customisable snooze options22:33
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laszlo-karpatinik90: Thanks. I will look after it.22:45
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Guest72857can anyone help in adding a new device tree23:00
Guest72857https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/  Enable new device part23:01

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