[04:23] <jimmyd> wiped out the the Whole kernal and lost all my stuff trying to make room oin boot holstein
[04:23] <jimmyd> so i reinstalled
[04:51] <holstein> jimmyd: ?
[04:52] <holstein> jimmyd: i, and the guides i linked suggested *not* getting rid of all the kernels
[04:52] <jimmyd> yes man what a nightmare
[04:52] <holstein> jimmyd: also, you can "Fix" it with chroot
[04:52] <holstein> jimmyd: i say, *dont* do seperate partitions..
[04:53] <jimmyd> well i thin its all gone now isnt it
[04:54] <holstein> jimmyd: i dont know what you have, but, when installing, you should see that the installer wants to put everything in one partition.. just do that
[04:56] <jimmyd> ok i installed Zubuntu the latest one through ubootin from my mac and updated it i think it erased the previous one unfortunatly
[04:57] <jimmyd> because it was there but wouldnt boot for some reason and so i booted from the usb and just reinstalled and im getting this crazy error message then it boots up anyway
[04:58] <holstein> jimmyd: cool. just let a volunteer know if you have a question
[04:58] <holstein> otherwise, i say, just go with the defaults..
[04:59] <holstein> "xubuntu" for searching, etc..
[05:00] <jimmyd> ok well thats all fine and good but im starting over again lost my spred sheet full of records luckily i do it on my other machine and on paper
[05:00] <holstein> jimmyd: you need to have backups, regardless of operating system, since *all* hard drives will fail.. and it wont the "fault" of any OS
[05:02] <holstein> jimmyd: in the future, linux *is* the kernel. you can remove it and have a booting system..
[05:02] <jimmyd> yes yes i have it on the paper tablet for that reason ive done this before and am working on improving my backup habits thank you
[05:03] <jimmyd> what do you mean by that Holstein
[05:04] <holstein> jimmyd: just what i said.. if you dont have a kernel, "linux" wont work.. you shouldnt remove "linux" from your system
[05:04] <jimmyd> thing is i like to try things and don't completly know what im doing
[05:04] <holstein> jimmyd: you really dont need to have a seperate /boot
[05:04] <jimmyd> ok
[05:06] <jimmyd> so would you be able to tell where i made my mistake and lost my "linux Kernel if i could post somthing i have here
[05:06]  * ObrienDave tip toes through the room and silently exits
[05:07] <holstein> jimmyd: you removed it
[05:08] <holstein> jimmyd: and, if you are reinstalling, or already did, then, its not big deal.. you cant "Fix" it now
[05:08] <jimmyd> pretty much accept what i have now is booting strangely
[05:08] <holstein> jimmyd: again, if you have a question, im sure a volunteer can assist
[05:08] <holstein> "my computer is booting strangely" is a statement
[05:09] <jimmyd> ok  my question can i get any of the files back
[05:10] <holstein> jimmyd: what files? the ones that were on your hard drive? that you just formatted and reinstalled over?
[05:10] <jimmyd> sure so i will try to get the propper info for the exact error message if i can reproduce it
[05:10] <holstein> *if* you ran recovery on it, then, you *might* get back what is in the empty space.. but, you could have lifted them easily off there from a live CD
[05:11] <jimmyd> ok
[05:11] <holstein> you are just thinking out of order a bit
[05:11] <holstein> you should recover the data *first*, *if* you dont have backups.. then, move to making the machine boot..
[05:11] <jimmyd> sure illtryto get straightened out
[05:12] <jimmyd> i got it to boot
[05:12] <jimmyd> im just trying to figure out how i got rid of the wrong kernels
[05:13] <holstein> jimmyd: you stated you got rid of *all* of them.. thats how. there is no "wrong" kernels.. they wont be labeled as such, or able to be found that way.. there are just newer and older ones, and the ones you dont have room for
[05:14] <jimmyd> Is there a comand line prompt i can use to find out
[05:14] <holstein> jimmyd: there *would* have been. let me get you the link i gave you before..
[05:14] <jimmyd> actualy i didnt get rid of all of them
[05:14] <holstein> jimmyd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89710/how-do-i-free-up-more-space-in-boot
[05:15] <holstein> 00:23 < jimmyd> wiped out the the Whole kernal and lost all my stuff trying to make room oin boot holstein
[05:15] <holstein> ^ thats all im working from.. what you stated.. im not sure what you removed, or why/how
[05:15] <jimmyd> i follow the comand on the term emulator and removed all but thelast two i thought
[05:16] <holstein> you cant just copy paste them in
[05:16] <holstein> you have to look and see what you have. thats why i just gave the information, and stated that i prefered using synaptic
[05:16] <holstein> when i did this for a friend in the LUG, i ran "sudo update-grub" to see if all was well with his system, and get a list of the kernels..
[05:16] <jimmyd> so since my memory isnt that good or my typing either what do i do
[05:17] <holstein> i then just used synaptic to simply search for the ones i *specifically* wanted to remove.. one at a time
[05:17] <holstein> jimmyd: you said you have reinstalled. so, you use the new system you wrote overtop the old one you broken
[05:17] <holstein> broke*
[05:18] <jimmyd> i see i tried to take all but the last two off with the comand line then it was working until i tried to reboot and it didnt so i freaked out and reinstalled
[05:19] <jimmyd> yes that what i think i did
[05:19] <jimmyd> thats
[05:20] <holstein> jimmyd: the most *recent* 2.. or whatever, like i said, you decide. its not important how many, just that, *if* you want to free up more space in /boot, thats one way
[05:20] <jimmyd> ok isee
[05:20] <jimmyd> im old but still learning
[05:21] <holstein> jimmyd: could have been a simple grub issue.. i'll run "uname -a" and "sudo update-grub" and see that everything looks "good"
[05:25] <jimmyd> 3.16.0-31-generic #41~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 11 19:30:43 UTC 2015 i686 i686
[05:26] <jimmyd> that was the result of uname -a
[05:27] <jimmyd> do you want the result of update grub
[05:27] <holstein> jimmyd: for what, friend?
[05:28] <holstein> jimmyd: if you have wiped and reinstalled, then, just enjoy your new installation
[05:28] <holstein> jimmyd: you need not troubleshoot this anymore, and cant
[05:28] <jimmyd> ok
[05:29] <jimmyd> the thing is its still using the old name
[05:30] <holstein> jimmyd: "its" a machine.. so, it'll just be called what you call it
[05:30] <jimmyd> but i get you
[05:41] <jimmyd1> now when i boot in it says error write not supported press any key to continue can you tell me how to get it to quit telling me that everytime it boots
[05:42] <jimmyd1> holstein this is jimmyd
[05:42] <ObrienDave> external drive? ntfs?
[05:42] <holstein> or, something in the bios.. i need more informaiton.. the *exact* message
[05:42] <jimmyd1> ok ill go get it be right back i have to reboot
[05:51] <jimmyd1> Ok the exact message is error: diskfilter writes are not supported. press any key to continue..._
[08:03] <allstarsnorks2> Hi there. Why is lightdm.conf missing from Xubuntu 14.04?
[08:04] <allstarsnorks2> Is there any way I can get it back? Apparently, remastersys needs the file.
[08:14] <allstarsnorks2> anyone?
[08:19] <elfy> allstarsnorks2: lightdm changed a bit - check in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d at least
[08:20] <allstarsnorks2> does making an empty lightdm.conf file work?
[08:20] <elfy> no idea never used remastersys
[08:26] <allstarsnorks2> Alright
[08:27] <allstarsnorks2> Now, after install GTK 3.12, my icons aren't used in some parts of the Greybird theme. Why's that?
[10:18] <Interprog56> Hello
[10:18] <Interprog56> Do anyone here online?
[10:44] <rat> whelp. I expect that you guys will be hearing plenty come morning when people start reporting in about the systemd switchover...
[10:44] <rat> But it completely broke my ability to use a mouse and keyboard with 15.04 on my chromebook.
[10:45] <bazhang> !vivid | rat
[10:45] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu+1 rat
[10:46] <rat> Done. Will see what they have to say. Meanwhile grub menu enabled so I can switch back to upstart for booting.
[10:47] <bazhang> why do you say 'tomorrow'
[10:47] <bazhang> april is the release of vivid
[10:48] <rat> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/06/1448247/ubuntu-to-officially-switch-to-systemd-next-monday
[10:48] <rat> The switch to systemd is what broke my xUbuntu install.
[10:49] <brainvvash> please file a bug report and let the ubuntu devs know about this issue
[10:50] <rat> Yeah. Already on it. I just wanted to let you guys have a heads up that it's already making a mess of some previously reliable installs.
[12:24] <kashel> Halli
[12:24] <kashel> Hallo
[12:27] <knome> hello
[12:27] <kashel> Do you speak russian?
[12:27] <knome> !ru | kashel
[12:28] <kashel> Ok
[12:28] <kashel> I know then chanel
[13:10] <knob> Good morning!
[13:16] <knob> Hey guys... just moved from Unity to xfce.    How do I "upgrade" XScreensaver?
[13:16] <knob> It's telling me it is out of date... what do you usually do?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> knob, xscreensaver can conflict with dmlogin manager.  therefore, recommendation from xfce is to disable it.
[13:17] <knome> knob, there is no way to easily do that; however, xubuntu doesn't use xscreensaver by default, so you don't even need it for the "xubuntu experience"
[13:19] <knob> ahh...
[13:19] <knob> Ok... so, what do you suggest?   I just found a askubuntu link, stating to remove    xscreensaver
[13:19] <knob> and tehn intall   gnome-screensaver   (this is a suggestion)
[13:19] <knob> What do you think?
[13:19] <knob> It's just that I think I have a mini-mess running right now with these screens and lock screens
[13:20] <knome> knob, if you explicitly need a screensaver...
[13:27] <cfhowlett> knob, turn of xscreensaver.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> knob, and the suggestion to use the gnome screensaver?  stupid ...
[13:31] <knob> I trully don't need a screensaver... just the "blank screen" and "lock when awake" is good.
[13:31] <knome> knob, then you can simply remove xscreensaver, it is not needed
[13:31] <knob> What do you think?  Sorry guys... I am just lost on this.         Should I uninstall xscreensaver, and install something else?   Or can I configure that blankscreen and lock somehow else?
[13:31] <knob> knome, ok... removing that guy then.
[13:32] <knome> knob, make sure you have light-locker installed
[13:32] <knome> it should pull light-locker-settings with it so you can edit the locker configuration
[13:35] <knob> Ok... running this through you guys for input:   I removed  xscreensaver.
[13:36] <knob> I then opened Light Locker Settings... it told me that my screensaver settings are managed by Xfce Power Manager
[13:36] <knob> Should I leave it that way, and then have Light Locker lock the screen ?  Or... somehow else?
[13:36] <knome> that is correct
[13:37] <knob> Ok... I *think*  we have it.
[13:37] <knome> :)
[13:38] <knob> So I have Light Locker:     Automatically lock the session:  When the screensaver is activated
[13:38] <knob> And over in Xfce Power Manager, I have "blank screen" after 5 minutes
[13:38] <knob> I think I am missing somethign
[13:38] <knome> what would it be?
[13:39] <knob> screensaver I reckon...   I don't think she sees the "blank screen" the same as screensaver active??
[13:39] <knome> it is
[13:39] <knob> Ahhh... ok!  Then.... testing it is now.
[13:39] <knob> Thank you!
[13:40] <knob> I installed Ubuntu about 7-8 months ago... all super good.  Installed in my workstation, and on my laptop.   Then, last week, I installed Xubuntu in a spare laptop I had.   Liked it so much, that in 3-4 days installed Xubuntu in main laptop, and the workstation
[13:40] <knob> I like it a LOT more than Unity
[13:40] <knob> In Unity I had installed CairoDock, and... tint2 (for the "taskbar")
[13:41] <knome> thanks for the nice feedback and glad to hear you like it :)
[13:41] <knob> And something that worked out of the box, is that in my workstation's dual monitors, then "edge" between monitors, was always Sticky.    I tried to set its width to 0... yet the cursor always got a little bit "stuck" between screens
[13:42] <kashel> I need your help with plymouth
[13:42] <knob> knome, if you are one of the people that work with Xubuntu, thank YOU guys!!     I love computers... yet, don't know how to program.   So, thanks for all the work you guys do!
[13:42] <knome> knob, i am, and others who do are in this channel too :)
[13:43] <knob> Super super!  Well, thanks everyone.    Xubuntu rocks!   Solid!
[13:43] <knob> =)
[13:43] <knome> enjoy!
[13:51] <obscurehero> hey, I've got a question about the mainline kernels
[13:52] <obscurehero> they're designated with vivid or utopic... is that because they've been tested with that release?
[13:52] <knome> yes
[13:52] <obscurehero> could I use a 3.19-vivid kernel with utopic?
[13:54] <knome> you could, but that would not be supported
[13:54] <obscurehero> are mainline kernels supported anyway?
[13:54] <obscurehero> arent' they just supposed to be for testing and whatnot?
[13:54] <knome> if mainline is something else than "default", then you'll need to ask from the people who maintain those kernels
[13:55] <obscurehero> gotcha, alright. Well thank you for your work on xubuntu and the help. :)
[13:55] <knome> you're welcome
[13:56] <kashel> I need your help with plymouth
[13:58] <knome> kashel, why don't you ask the real question to find out if somebody can help with it?
 after install driver video card plymouth doesn`t work with start system
 only text
[14:00] <knome> kashel, plymouth and proprietary nvidia drivers do not work well together
 splash not starting
[14:00] <knome> there are some workaround that i've heard works (please google them)
[14:00] <knome> there's nothing wrong with you not seeing the plymouth splash though, it's just a visual issue
 then why there is a version x64 fix working
[14:01] <knome> what "version x64 fix" ?
[14:02] <kashel> knome> i386 fix not working &
[14:02] <kashel> fix plymouth
[14:02] <knome> i have no idea why it's not working, we are not building the proprietary nvidia drivers
[14:03] <kashel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jIegOR6A0M
[14:04] <knome> kashel, ask the video author why the i386 fix doesn't work
[14:04] <kashel> on xubuntu 14.04.1 x 64 this fix work
[14:04] <Ananaskirsche> Hello, I have a problem, is this the place to ask?
[14:04] <kashel> author notknows
[14:04] <knome> Ananaskirsche, yes
[14:05] <knome> kashel, then i guess you need to find another tutorial for it that works
[14:05] <Ananaskirsche> I need ndiswrapper to install on my xubuntu installation, but i dont know how to install
[14:05] <knome> !ndis | Ananaskirsche
[14:05] <Ananaskirsche> I already downloaded the .deb files from the ubuntu repo, but they didnt worked
[14:06] <Ananaskirsche> just type !ndis?
[14:06] <knome> Ananaskirsche, no, please follow the link that ubottu output
[14:06] <Ananaskirsche> can u give me the link? dont know what it means
[14:06] <knome> Ananaskirsche, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:07] <Ananaskirsche> I already looked my wifi chipset up there, but its not supported
[14:07] <knome> Ananaskirsche, then it's possible that your wifi card will not work with ubuntu
[14:08] <Ananaskirsche> i already installed it offline under ubuntu and manjaro and it worked
[14:08] <knome> ok, then you can follow the same tutorial you used for ubuntu for xubuntu
[14:08] <Ananaskirsche> there has to be a way because ubuntu + xfce = xubuntu
[14:08] <Ananaskirsche> but that doesnt work
[14:09] <knome> why doesn't it work? what's the error message you are getting on xubuntu you didn't get on ubuntu?
[14:09] <Ananaskirsche> my chipset is the Broadcom BCM43526
[14:10] <Ananaskirsche> when i install it with the deb files it works as long as i type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" -> no version could be found of ndiswrapper
[14:10] <knome> so how did you install ndiswrapper on ubuntu, and how did you install it on xubuntu?
[14:10] <Ananaskirsche> I installed it on ubuntu with the make command
[14:10] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> I used Trusty Tahir
[14:11] <knome> and in xubuntu?
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> The version 14.04.02
[14:11] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper trusty
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> I installed it with make and so on on ubuntu
[14:11] <Ananaskirsche> it worked
[14:11] <knome> Ananaskirsche, ...and how did you install it on xubuntu?
[14:12] <bazhang> you wouldn't modprobe ndiswrapper
[14:12] <Ananaskirsche> tried it with the .deb files and the make command
[14:12] <knome> Ananaskirsche, without knowing the exact steps you did on ubuntu, i suspect this is where you're going off rails and why it isn't working
[14:13] <Ananaskirsche> if you wait a minute i will give you the tutorial that worked for me under ubuntu
[14:13] <Ananaskirsche> http://askubuntu.com/questions/460277/how-to-get-netgear-a6200-to-work-on-14-04
[14:14] <knome> Ananaskirsche, i don't need it; you will need to follow the same tutorial on xubuntu
[14:14] <Ananaskirsche> i did, but it doesn't work
[14:14] <Ananaskirsche> normally you just do "apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> but because Im not online I downloaded the tar.gz file
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> unzipped it and did following commands
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> "make"
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> "make instaöö"
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> *"make install"
[14:15] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, there is not an ndiswrapper to apt-get
[14:15] <Ananaskirsche> ?
[14:16] <Ananaskirsche> i know what u mean
 normally you just do "apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[14:16] <bazhang> no such package
[14:16] <Ananaskirsche> sry it was ndisgtk
[14:16] <Ananaskirsche> or ndiswrapper-common
[14:17] <bazhang> what is the make and etc for
[14:17] <Ananaskirsche> dont know, in the installation instruction was written do "make"
[14:18] <bazhang> you need to know that
[14:18] <knome> Ananaskirsche, do you know what you are doig or blindly following a tutorial?
[14:18] <knome> *doing
[14:18] <Ananaskirsche> no, but i oftenly heared that you install tar.gz files with make
[14:18] <knome> Ananaskirsche, you are sailing on dangerous waters.
[14:18] <Ananaskirsche> I know
[14:19] <bazhang> thats not answering any of our questions either
[14:19] <Ananaskirsche> I'm new to linux and i thought xubuntu is the same as ubuntu so i could use it too
[14:20] <bazhang> it is
[14:20] <bazhang> what you are saying wont work there either
[14:20] <Ananaskirsche> but why it doesnt work?
[14:20] <Ananaskirsche> the installation doesnt work
[14:20] <bazhang> of what exactly
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, did you (1) verify your .iso and (2) verify your boot USB/DVD?
[14:20] <Ananaskirsche> I've 2 ways to install it offline: with the deb-files or with the tar.gz package
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, did you (1) verify your .iso and (2) verify your boot USB/DVD?
[14:21] <Ananaskirsche> yes I did. I used sha1 for downloading and for burning i used the oprion to test the disk
[14:22] <Ananaskirsche> @bazhang both doesnt work
[14:22] <knome> cfhowlett, i'm fairly certain that's unrelated
[14:22] <knome> cfhowlett, ndiswrapper brings enough problems on its own...
[14:23] <knome> Ananaskirsche, i thought you just said it worked on ubuntu
[14:23] <Ananaskirsche> yes
[14:23] <cfhowlett> knome, true ...
[14:23] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, what exact tar are you talking about, give us a link
[14:23] <Ananaskirsche> wait a sec
[14:23] <knome> Ananaskirsche, you must have done something differently then, because there is no reason why it wouldn't work on xubuntu too.
[14:24] <Ananaskirsche> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/files/latest/download
[14:24] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, and where are the windows drivers to use with that
[14:24] <Ananaskirsche> www.mediafire.com/?od9wpw6ccrnyhaa
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, absolutely NOT an approved source for official ubuntu downloads!
[14:25] <Ananaskirsche> it are just the windows drivers extracted out of the install file for windows. I used them already twice and they worked for me
[14:25] <knome> cfhowlett, well again, ubuntu doesn't provide official windows driver downloads ;)
[14:26] <Ananaskirsche> if i wanted to extract the drivers by my own i could, but the drivers are not the problem
[14:26] <Ananaskirsche> *want
[14:32] <Ananaskirsche> aren't there any ideas?
[14:32] <bazhang> for what
[14:33] <Ananaskirsche> for my problem
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Ananaskirsche, see, this is where DETAILS matter.  restate the issue
[14:33] <bazhang> you have not made clear at all what exact commands you have used, the exact errors you received
[14:33] <bazhang> you just say DONT WORK
[14:34] <bazhang> pastebin the exact commands used
[14:34] <bazhang> !paste | Ananaskirsche
[14:34] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, also paste the exact error messages you have received
[14:36] <Ananaskirsche> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10568602/
[14:37] <koegs> why do you want to install ndiswrapper manually?
[14:37] <Ananaskirsche> how should I install it?
[14:38] <koegs> either via apt-get, synaptic, software-center or manually via .deb file if no network is available
[14:38] <koegs> but NOT via "make install" :(
[14:39] <Lyze> good evening guys ;)
[14:39] <Ananaskirsche> I would install with apt-get but it requires a network connection, wouldnt it?
[14:39] <koegs> Ananaskirsche: that is why i mentioned .deb files
[14:39] <bazhang> you have one now
[14:39] <Ananaskirsche> which one?
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> ndisgtk, utils or common
[14:40] <bazhang> a net connection
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> or all?
[14:40] <bazhang> !find ndis-gtk
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> Im using my windows machine
[14:40] <koegs> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk dkms ndiswrapper-dkms
[14:40] <Ananaskirsche> try version 12.10
[14:41] <koegs> Ananaskirsche: you are on 12.10?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> koegs, for the sake of clarity, please run this command:  cat /etc/issue | pastebinit
[14:42] <bazhang> he said he was on trusty
[14:43] <Ananaskirsche> sry for let u wait... Im on version 14.04.02 but you can find the packages in the 12.10 repo
[14:43] <cfhowlett> bazhang, confused about the 12.10 then ..
[14:43] <cfhowlett> I should say I'M confused ... :)
[14:43] <bazhang> heh
[14:43] <Ananaskirsche> :)
[14:43] <knome> Ananaskirsche, using packages for a two year old release isn't the best thing you can do and i wouldn't be surprised if that didn't work
[14:44] <Ananaskirsche> sry just found http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/utopic/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[14:44] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[14:44] <koegs> if you are on trusty, you should use packages for trusty...
[14:45] <Ananaskirsche> do i have to install all it dependencies manuelly?
[14:47] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, you have a net connection currently; why not use that wire to connect to the ubuntu machine, then do it that way
[14:49] <koegs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Installing_Packages_without_internet_access
[14:49] <Ananaskirsche> wired connection is no option, i would need a 30m cable
[14:49] <Ananaskirsche> im using my windows machine at the moment
[14:50] <Ananaskirsche> @koegs is this for xubuntu ok too?
[14:50] <koegs> Ananaskirsche: yes
[14:50] <Ananaskirsche> and is synaptics preinstalles?
[14:50] <Ananaskirsche> *preinstalled
[14:51] <bazhang> no
[14:51] <Ananaskirsche> and how i install it offline?
[14:51] <koegs> you can use the software center
[14:52] <bazhang> did you read the actual link above
[14:52] <Ananaskirsche> If found a possible way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1901446
[14:53] <Ananaskirsche> @koegs the software-center is the biggest crap ive ever seen for me. I've used it a few times and it never worked for me
[14:53] <Ananaskirsche> also when it was preinstalled
[14:53] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Installing_Packages_without_internet_access
[14:54] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, ^^^
[14:54] <drc> Ananaskirsche: Without reading that link closely and for detail, I'd be wary of using a 4 year old post, it <may> work and it may not.
[14:54] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, did you read that or NOT
[14:54] <koegs> it basically says: use the files from CD/iso
[14:55] <Ananaskirsche> i read that but didnt understood it
[14:55] <Ananaskirsche> but it says: "click System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager" and someone said that synaptics isnt preinstalled, which means i have to install it
[14:56] <koegs> you can also use "sudo apt-cdrom add" if you dont like software center
[14:57] <koegs> it is just one of the many tool to add the cdrom to the package sources -.-
[14:57] <Ananaskirsche> and then=
[14:57] <Ananaskirsche> ?
[14:57] <koegs> then just use at-get
[14:57] <koegs> *apt-get
[14:57] <Ananaskirsche> apt-get install ndiswrapper-common?
[14:58] <koegs> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[14:58] <Ananaskirsche> ok, will try this and come again
[14:58] <Ananaskirsche> thanks
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !cookie | koegs good work
[15:03] <bazhang> !helpersnack
[15:03] <bazhang> heh
[15:29] <Ananaskirsche> Hello, Im back
[15:29] <Ananaskirsche> It doesnt worked
[15:30] <Ananaskirsche> @bazhang can you give me the commands again please?
[15:30] <bazhang> details of the exact errors
[15:30] <bazhang> pastebin them
[15:30] <Ananaskirsche> couldnt found package
[15:30] <bazhang> also the exact commands used
[15:31] <Ananaskirsche> it could found the package
[15:31] <bazhang> "dont work" is not a detail
[15:31] <Ananaskirsche> could not found package
[15:31] <Ananaskirsche> apt-cdrom was successful
[15:32] <Ananaskirsche> it added the cd
[15:32] <bazhang> so apt-get update
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> when i do this it says ing cdrom://Xubuntu 14-04-02 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20150218) trusty/main
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> which means it ignores the cd?
[15:34] <bazhang> its says "ing" <------
[15:34] <bazhang> what is "ing"
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> sry ign
[15:34] <Ananaskirsche> not ing
[15:35] <bazhang> apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[15:35] <Ananaskirsche> gives nothing to output
[15:37] <Ananaskirsche> no idea?
[15:37] <bazhang> you said adding the cd was successful
[15:39] <Ananaskirsche> the command i used was "sudo apt-cdrom -m --no-auto-detect -d /media/ananaskirsche/Xubuntu\ 14.04.02\ LTS\ amd64/ add"
[15:41] <Ananaskirsche> anyone no idea?
[15:42] <knome> Ananaskirsche, i'm sure people won't suddenly have new ideas even if you asked every 2 minutes
[15:42] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, is the net connection not yours?
[15:43] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, whats stopping you from moving your ubuntu computer MUCH closer to the router
[15:43] <Ananaskirsche> it is but my router is upstairs i would need a 30m cable
[15:43] <Ananaskirsche> and its in the room my dad is working
[15:44] <bazhang> so go in there when he's not
[15:44] <Ananaskirsche> thats once a month
[15:44] <Ananaskirsche> cant wait so long
[15:44] <bazhang> cat5e cables are quite common, and 30m is nothing
[15:45] <Ananaskirsche> Thats not possible
[15:45] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche, you are very very light on details, and just keep repeating "dont work"
[15:45] <Ananaskirsche> i dont want to buy something
[15:45] <Ananaskirsche> say what u need bazhang
[15:45] <bazhang> so it is possible
[15:46] <bazhang> you just want to do it the very hardest way
[15:46] <Ananaskirsche> say how i should do it bauhang
[15:46] <Ananaskirsche> *bazhang
[15:46] <bazhang> Ananaskirsche> Thats not possible <Ananaskirsche> i dont want to buy something
[15:47] <Ananaskirsche> i really saying that the only solution is to buy a cable?
[15:47] <bazhang> connecting by wire, and this would done in an instant
[15:47] <Ananaskirsche> ITS NOT POSSIBLE
[15:47] <bazhang> very well
[15:48] <Ananaskirsche> It worked under Ubuntu and it worked under Manjaro, why its not possible when xubuntu is the same?!
[15:48] <bazhang> you said it did NOT work with ubuntu
[15:48] <bazhang> now it does?
[15:48] <Ananaskirsche> I said it worked
[15:48] <Ananaskirsche> under ubuntu it worked the hole time
[15:48] <bazhang> when was this
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> the last time i used it
[15:49] <bazhang> which was when
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> now i wanted to install xubuntu instead
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> i think a week ago
[15:49] <bazhang> when did it last work
[15:49] <bazhang> so log into the ubuntu session
[15:49] <Ananaskirsche> cant, ubuntu is deleted
[15:50] <bazhang> how was xubuntu installed
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> by cd
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> downloaded from my windows machine
[15:50] <bazhang> so get a usb stick
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> go
[15:50] <Ananaskirsche> t
[15:51] <bazhang> ?
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> I have one
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> its just now in my hands
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> Im holding it
[15:51] <bazhang> packages ubuntu com
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> calling packages.ubuntu.com
[15:51] <Ananaskirsche> I have
[15:52] <bazhang> dl the deb and dependencies for those packages
[15:52] <Ananaskirsche> all?
[15:52] <bazhang> put on the usb stick
[15:52] <Ananaskirsche> all?
[15:52] <bazhang> take the usb stick to your immovable ubuntu computer
[15:52] <Ananaskirsche> all packages + dependencies?
[15:53] <bazhang> copy them over to the ubuntu machine
[15:53] <bazhang> get the windows drivers, start up ndisgtk, point it to the drivers
[15:54] <Ananaskirsche> all packages + dependencies?
[15:54] <bazhang> dl the deb and dependencies for those packages <--- Ananaskirsche
[15:54] <Ananaskirsche> sry
[15:55] <bazhang> keeping in mind this is the very hardest way to do it
[15:55] <Ananaskirsche> ok
[15:55] <bazhang> good luck
[15:55] <Ananaskirsche> thx
[15:55] <Ananaskirsche> tz
[15:55] <bazhang> np
[15:58] <koegs> i am not sure if this works on an offline PC: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk --allow-unauthenticated -y --print-uris | grep -o '\'http.*\' | tr "\'" " "
[15:58] <koegs> this will generate a list of needed packages, Ananaskirsche
[15:58] <Ananaskirsche> ok will try
[15:59] <koegs> i think the apt-cdrom does not work because nowerdays they put everything into squashfs
[15:59] <Ananaskirsche> ok
[15:59] <Ananaskirsche> what does that mean for me?
[16:00] <bazhang> setting up a vm with ubuntu in it and then creating an aptoncd would be tons easier as well
[16:00] <koegs> nothing, just that my "apt-cdrom" command does not help here :D
[16:00] <koegs> <- afk
[16:03] <Ananaskirsche> I will install ubuntu again
[16:03] <Ananaskirsche> it doesnt work
[16:03] <Ananaskirsche> I hate xubuntu
[16:04] <Ananaskirsche> why it doesnt work when its the same?
[16:04] <Ananaskirsche> why?
[16:22] <Lachezar> Hey all. For some time now I've been unable to open URLs in Xubuntu from various places. Can't open URLs from Thunderbird or the Console. However "xdg-open http://ubuntu.com/" works.
[16:23] <Nivex> known issue. Firefox changed their URL open command line in the latest update
[16:23] <knome> bug 1425972
[16:25] <Nivex> I hope a backport fix makes it soon. I'm getting tired of right click, copy url, open url, paste
[16:25] <knome> if you look at the bug comments, you'll find a workaround right now
[16:26] <knome> and, if you want to help updates land faster, all contributions are welcome
[16:33] <Nivex> that bug report is so long I wasn't able to find much of value in there, so i figured it out myself. and <voice="mccoy">Dammit Jim, I'm a sysadmin, not a developer.</voice>
[16:40] <Lachezar> Maaaannnn! This .desktop editor is full-of-it!
[16:42] <knome> Lachezar, please calm down
[16:42] <Lachezar> knome: Oh, I'm calm, that was a disappointment line, not an angry one.
[16:43] <Lachezar> knome: the current .desktop editor is like a game 'Find-Where-The-Focus-Is-If-You-Can' :)
[16:44] <knome> Lachezar, then stop acting like you need to calm down...
[16:45] <Lachezar> knome: That's a hard thing to do: writing is not the same as talking, and everyone has his/her own idea of what an angry write is.
[16:46] <knome> Lachezar, then don't leave room for interpretation.
[16:46] <Lachezar> knome: That's pretty unachievable. Ask any lawyer ;)
[16:46] <knome> Lachezar, ok, enough of this, but please keep the disappointment down in the future.
[16:46] <bazhang> !ot | Lachezar
[16:47] <Lachezar> Is there a way to 'override' a .../xfce4-helpers/something.desktop using the $HOME?
[16:47] <knome> Lachezar, and if you don't give us any examples of what's actually wrong with the editor (and tell us which you are using), it's hard to "fix" anything
[16:51] <Lachezar> Nivex: This work-around actually helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs24/+bug/1425972/comments/85
[16:52] <slickymasterWork> Nivex: FAIW bug 1425972 is already Fix Released status~
[17:32] <Lachezar> quit Going home.
[17:32] <Lachezar> Whops. Forgot the slash :(
[17:32] <srsr> good morning, is anyone here?
[17:33] <slickymasterWork> !ask | srsr
[17:34] <srsr> I am running ubuntu 14 and wondering what the best way would be to hook up to a homegroup or workgroup just to use the printer
[17:34] <srsr> the homegroup is made up of win 7 puters
[17:35] <srsr> Im onthe same wifi
[17:41] <GridCube> just share the printer from windows and add the printer on the settings manager > printers
[17:55] <srsr> none of the three windows seven machines are set up wired into the network, they are wireless and a homegroup is set up.we have one printer being shared by three machines all windows 7 and working that way but im thinking i may not be able to do this because they are not hard wired
[17:56] <srsr> just looking up samba
[17:58] <krytarik> !samba | srsr: Just in case
[17:59] <srsr> thanks
[18:16] <pinkeee> hola a todos - q pasa?
[18:17] <krytarik> !es | pinkeee
[18:17] <elfy> !es | pinkeee
[18:17] <elfy> hah :)
[18:17] <krytarik> lol
[18:17] <pinkeee> trato la dvd del web ahora. q por exacto me hace?
[18:17] <srsr> ok.. using samba and was wondering? when you open up a terminal and get into samba to change the workgroup = WORKGROUP for instance can i change that to homegroup = myhomegroupname instead ? to make it see the printer on homegroup
[18:18] <pinkeee> oops i sorry
[18:19] <pinkeee> i speak english
[18:19] <pinkeee> what is it that i do after install dvd?
[18:20] <knome> srsr, workgroup is a technical term, you should not change that.
[18:22] <krytarik> pinkeee: What exactly do you mean?
[18:26] <srsr> ya... but in windows there is a option to make a workgroup or a homegroup.. so i made a homegroup for that little network because homegroups are trusted and less locked down.. it is workig for the three computers on that little wireless group with one printer attached by usb... now i want to join the group with my ubuntu laptop just to print so i was wondering if i should change it to homegroup because that is what it is called
[18:47]  * srsr slaps himself with a huge rainbow trout
[19:54] <xubuntu60w> how do create a usb os disk for use of the live xubuntu
[19:55] <ObrienDave> unetbootin
[19:55] <ObrienDave> or burn ISO to DVD disc
[20:03] <bynarie> xubuntu60w, what OS are you tryin to make the liveusb in?
[22:57] <qkzoo1978> Hi.  Everytime I close my laptop lid, while the power is still on, the unit goes into standby mode.  When I open it back up, I sometimes get the unlock screen, I type in my password, and then the screen goes black again.  This happens consistently.  If I switch to another terminal (i.e., CTL + ALT + F1) the screen turns on for that terminal, but if I switch back to the main one (CTL + ALT + F7) I still get the blank black scr
[22:57] <qkzoo1978> een.  Any fix suggestions?
[23:40] <qkzoo1978> Links in Thunderbird don't work when you click on them.
[23:41] <qkzoo1978> Any fix, starting to get annoying?
[23:43] <ObrienDave> there's a setting for that in thunderbird. don't remember where it is
[23:46] <qkzoo1978> It opens a new Firefox window, it just doesn't open the link I clicked.
[23:49] <drc1> could it be related to Launchpad bug 1425972 in exo (Ubuntu Utopic) "Firefox no longer supports -remote parameter" [Undecided,In progress] ?
[23:50] <qkzoo1978> Cool, thanks :)