[07:58] <dholbach> good morning
[08:01] <dholbach> dpm, do you think you can help with https://code.launchpad.net/help-app/+activereviews?
[08:10] <dpm> dholbach, I've approved the easy one, but I think on the other two it's best to talk to nskaggs. I see he's already done some reviews, and I'm not sure I'll manage to get familiar enough with testing to do a good review
[08:10] <dholbach> ok
[08:23] <dholbach> dpm, nevermind - looks like balloons commented on them - for some reason LP didn't show this to me earlier :)
[08:23] <dholbach> I'll take a look at it when I'm back from the dentist
[08:25] <dpm> ok, cool
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Organize Your Home Office Day! :D
[11:16] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, I got caught up with something else here it is: lp:~dpm/help-app/attr-lists-and-embedded-html
[11:16] <dholbach> thanks
[11:17] <dpm> dholbach, so python-markdown supports something called attribute lists, which allow us to add additional ids and classes to content
[11:17] <dpm> you'll see it on settings.md
[11:17] <dpm> {: #myid .myclass}
[11:17] <dholbach> ok
[11:17] <dholbach> let's see how that's going to work out
[11:18] <dpm> and also one can embed arbitrary html
[11:18]  * dholbach sees more workaround work coming his way
[11:18] <dpm> both things work well
[11:18] <dholbach> :)
[11:18] <dpm> dholbach, but the issue is that they get added to the .pot file
[11:18] <dholbach> right
[11:18] <dpm> dholbach, if we have to do a big hack, we might as well not use those features, though
[11:19] <dpm> but I thought perhaps you might have some ideas
[11:19] <dholbach> it'd mean readding an old hack
[11:19] <dholbach> I think
[11:19] <dholbach> let me take a look
[11:19] <dholbach> it's the same with [TOC]
[11:19] <dholbach> +#: content/pages/settings.md:6
[11:19] <dholbach> +msgid "[TOC]"
[11:19] <dholbach> +msgstr ""
[11:20] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, I added a comment in the description of the MP I sent
[12:18] <popey> hey nik90, hows the clock coming along? I saw z left a comment a few hours ago. wondered if we'd have something for QA this week?
[12:18] <nik90> popey: hey, I am going to top approve it now
[12:18] <popey> ok
[12:31] <newsages> hi, i cant install kit i386 15......    in create os.remove("%s/sbin/initctl" % mount) FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-i386/sbin/initctl'
[12:32] <popey> haha
[12:32] <popey> systemd strikes!
[12:32]  * popey pokes bzoltan_ ^
[12:33] <newsages> ??
[12:37] <nik90> lol
[12:37] <bzoltan_> popey: WOW
[12:40] <nik90> popey, your MP at https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/ubuntu-weather-app/fix-1401718/+merge/252361 for the old weather app does still include a C++ timezone plugin.
[12:40] <popey> gah, I'm an idiot
[12:40] <popey> sorry.
[12:41] <nik90> no worries, I will top-approve once you push the fix
[12:43] <popey> kk
[12:45] <popey> nik90: done
[12:46] <nik90> popey: top-approved
[12:47] <nik90> popey: the critical bug-fix for clock app just landed in rev 216. I have updated the changelog as well at http://pad.ubuntu.com/clock-app-changelog
[12:47] <nik90> we're good to go
[12:48] <popey> thanks so much nik90 !
[12:50] <Elleo> nik90: I'm happy either way with the licensing, having it relicensed under the GPL might be a bit simpler to keep track of if mhall119 doesn't mind that; but including it under a BSD license is also fine by me
[12:51] <nik90> Elleo: I am fine with either as well..so you will have to make the decision :P
[12:51] <Elleo> nik90: alright, got with GPLv3 then so we don't have to make any special notes about it :P
[12:51] <Elleo> go*
[12:51] <nik90> :)
[12:52] <Elleo> nik90: put the copyright owner as mhall119 though, also feel free to add yourself to any copyright statements throughout the code if you haven't already
[12:53] <nik90> Elleo, yeah the owner of the theme manager will be mhall119. Any new file that I coded, I usually put the owner as Podcast team.
[12:54] <Elleo> nik90: ah okay, if we don't already have an AUTHORS file might be worth making one to clarify who the podbird team are then
[12:54] <nik90> Elleo, ack. I will add that in a new MP
[12:54] <Elleo> nik90: great, thanks :)
[13:17] <dholbach> dpm, regarding the TOC branch - what do you think about simply overwriting all related msgstr with [TOC]? :)
[13:17] <dholbach> it's a hack, but I can't see it breaking :)
[13:18] <dholbach> dpm, I'll write some code for that and propose a branch for yours
[13:22] <popey> nik90: autopilot tests are failing here. I suspect because of the location popup....
[13:22] <nik90> popey, on the phone?
[13:22] <popey> yes, confirmed,
[13:23] <popey> nexus 7
[13:23] <dpm> dholbach, I'm not sure tbh. Translators will still be able to change that translation
[13:23] <nik90> popey, yup it has to be due to the location prompt
[13:23] <dholbach> dpm, we change it before we write any translated markdown
[13:23] <popey> yeah, the test suite produces screenshots
[13:23] <dholbach> dpm, as part of the build process
[13:23] <dpm> dholbach, ah, I see
[13:24] <dholbach> dpm, kind of like making {filename}(something.html) be {filename}(something.de.html) instead
[13:24] <nik90> popey, looks like the upstream MP in the trust-store hasn't been merged yet https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/trust-store/fix-1420790/+merge/249320
[13:24] <popey> ok. i cant submit this to the store until we get AP passing
[13:25] <beuno> s/can't/shouldn't
[13:25] <beuno> :)
[13:25] <popey> meh
[13:25] <popey> don't get me started
[13:25] <nik90> popey, Then I guess it would take at least a month to have all the necessary pieces in place to get AP passing.
[13:26] <popey> looks like tvoss is away
[13:29] <popey> davmor2: ^
[13:29] <popey> we need to talk about clock app.
[13:29] <popey> (again)
[13:31] <nik90> popey, I have raised the priority of bug 1425004 to critical since this is now blocking crash fixes from being pushed to the store.
[13:31] <nik90> bah, I meant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1425044
[13:32] <popey> thanks
[13:32] <dholbach> dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/question-navigation.fixes/+merge/252431
[13:33] <dpm> dholbach, thanks, looking. I've also filed bug 1430326
[13:34] <popey> nik90: there's only actually two autopilot tests. in my mind we should skip them both because the platform is broken. That would mean all five tests are skipped.
[13:34] <popey> (this is the only quick workaround I can think of)
[13:35] <dholbach> dpm, looking at your bug now - I think balloons ran into a similar issue
[13:37] <nik90> popey, hmm..I would rather apply pressure upstream since I have been asked to add AP tests for all critical functionality in clock app instead of QML tests. Only it is noticed that the clock app is crashing and cannot be patched due to AP failures upstream will this become a higher priority in the trust-store.
[13:37] <nik90> s/only/only if it is noticed,
[13:37] <popey> I agree that we need to put pressure upstream, but this is blocking store uploads for a crasher bug.
[13:38] <davmor2> popey: what?
[13:38] <nik90> popey, and that is precisely when it will be noticed..the next time I upload with new feature for instance, we won't be able to by pass the AP failures and clock app will have to suffer as a result
[13:39] <popey> well we already suffer
[13:39] <popey> we have a crasher to fix
[13:41] <popey> davmor2: clock AP failures due to trust store prompt means I cant upload a crasher fix to the store.
[13:41] <nik90> popey, its your call. I have seen the location-prompt failures being there since november 2014 without much progress. Disabling the AP tests would also not make QA happy either.
[13:42] <popey> exactly, hence pinging davmor2
[13:42] <dpm> dholbach, reviewd
[13:43] <davmor2> popey: have a chat with jibel I think we can possibly make an exception based on it not being in your hands to fix that, but I think tvoss's landing is in a ppa for vivid right?
[13:44] <dholbach> dpm, I'll look into the HTML stuff separately, if that's all right?
[13:44] <dholbach> dpm,  was that in the attr-lists-and-embedded-html branch?
[13:44] <dholbach> dpm, I also have https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1430326/+merge/252433 for you :)
[13:45] <dpm> dholbach, yes to both. As I was saying, I think we might just have to not add support for that. I'm worried about opening a can of worms and generating more work
[13:45] <popey> davmor2: I'll poke jibel about it
[13:45] <dholbach> dpm, I'll play around with it for a bit and let you know
[13:45] <davmor2> popey: I think the crasher fix would be more important but not my call
[13:46] <dholbach> dpm, can you merge the [TOC] fix into your branch and land it in trunk?
[13:46] <nik90> davmor2, https://code.launchpad.net/~brendan-donegan/ubuntu-clock-app/disable_location_prompt/+merge/242682/comments/622419
[13:46] <dholbach> dpm, or shall I land the two together?
[13:47] <dpm> dholbach, give me a few mins and I can do the TOC branch
[13:47] <dholbach> awesome
[14:21] <balloons> dholbach, how we feeling after these branches land about putting a click in the store? ;-)
[14:22] <dholbach> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/help-app/+activereviews would be nice to get landed - although I'm not sure how well this is going to work on the phone
[14:22] <dholbach> and then there's bug 1416385
[14:24] <newsages> hi  .. i have problem when install Kit 15.04..
[14:24] <newsages> I: Base system installed successfully.  Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/click", line 86, in sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/bin/click", line 82, in main return mod.run(args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/commands/chroot.py", line 266, in run return args.func(parser, args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/commands/chroot.py", line 68, in create return chroot.create(args.keep_broken_chr
[14:26] <balloons> dholbach, right I was meaning after the active review branches land..
[14:26]  * balloons looks at bug
[14:26] <balloons> I fixed *some* of that bug
[14:33] <dholbach> balloons, one for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/fix-automated-testing-content-build/+merge/252449 :)
[14:36] <balloons> dholbach, pep8, <3
[14:42] <dholbach> dpm, regarding the attr-lists-and-embedded-html branch... do we have a definite list of HTML tags and stuff we're going to use?
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, is there on-air today?
[14:44] <popey> akiva-thinkpad: yes, dpm and dholbach are doing it
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll go advertise it :)
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> what time dpm?
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> (calendar is not updated)
[14:45] <dholbach> 16 utc
[14:45] <dpm> dholbach, so on the Q&A: we've got daytime savings, which means it appears in our calendars in 15 mins. Do you prefer doing it in 15, or in 1:15?
[14:45] <dholbach> oh
[14:46] <dpm> I'd go for 1:15, but I'm happy with either
[14:46] <dholbach> whose daylight savings time changed?
[14:46] <dpm> US, I think
[14:46] <dholbach> ok
[14:46] <dholbach> let's stick to our time then :-P
[14:46] <akiva-thinkpad> :(
[14:46] <dpm> wfm :)
[14:46] <akiva-thinkpad> so its in an hour and 15?
[14:46] <dholbach> can we also just make the calendar UTC and be done with it?
[14:47] <dholbach> I'll set up the event in G+
[14:47] <dpm> ok, thanks dholbach
[14:47] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, yes
[14:47] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, does that not work for you today?
[14:49] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, lol no its good; i'm just gonna go make a reddit post
[14:49] <dpm> ok, cool :)
[14:51] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, we should start calling these AMA s :)
[14:52] <dholbach> ubuntuonair updated
[14:54] <popey> it's because it's in mhall119's calendar
[14:54] <popey> everything goes screwy every 6 months as a result
[14:56] <akiva-thinkpad> damn you mhall119 !
[14:57] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, this might be more questions than we're expecting :)
[14:58] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, mhall has ran out of time before. This is my goal
[15:00] <dholbach> balloons, fixed :)
[15:01] <dholbach> balloons, there was no ".matches" :)
[15:02] <akiva-thinkpad> Ubuntu Team AMA on Google Hangouts starting in one hour | #ubuntu-on-air  (Preface any question you have with "QUESTION:" ) http://ubuntuonair.com/
[15:04] <balloons> dholbach, lol.. I didn't use matches at first, but then decided I might like it better, so I only threw that version at you
[15:05] <balloons> dholbach, ahh, I like it.. at least you dropped the needless ()
[15:08] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, I didn't answer your question earlier re: the html tags in the help app. I was thinking of only <div> really (and <div class="whatever">) but I'm thinking we might just have to sacrify the markup for the sake of not making the build more complex
[15:09] <dholbach> dpm, let me take a closer look at it again - maybe we can still do it :)
[15:11] <dpm> ok
[15:41] <daker> dholbach: is the web theme reponsive ?
[15:42] <dholbach> daker, yes
[17:07] <dpm> dholbach, merged the navigation fixes branch
[17:08] <dpm> I had to fix a conflict, didn't seem to be a hard one to fix, but might be worth checking if I didn't break anything
[17:09]  * dholbach likes the look of https://code.launchpad.net/help-app/+activereviews
[17:10] <dholbach> dpm, actually, the test suite is now broken, but that might be a problem I created earlier - I'll take a look at it
[17:17] <dpm> ok, thanks dholbach
[17:17] <popey> Elleo: was it you that was playing around with google cardboard?
[17:18] <Elleo> popey: yeah
[17:18] <dholbach> dpm, you just have to put money into the "breaks the test suite" fund now
[17:18] <popey> Elleo: I just ordered a couple off ebay for lulz
[17:18] <dholbach> aka the beer fund
[17:18] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, Any luck on getting the sdk to work with "help"?
[17:18] <Elleo> popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5kYzcrAet0
[17:18] <dholbach> DS-McGuire, no - I didn't look at it for now
[17:19] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, No problem.
[17:19] <Elleo> popey: will really need to get the gyroscope sensor sorted to be able to do anything decent with it though
[17:19] <dholbach> DS-McGuire, as I said in the other comment: it's not easy to do as we don't use "standard SDK components"
[17:19] <Elleo> popey: I had a quick look at the libhybris sensors stuff but it all seems like black magic to me
[17:19] <dholbach> DS-McGuire, so the best way, right now, is to just use your favourite editor and a terminal
[17:19] <dpm> dholbach, wait, you said it was you! :P
[17:19] <dholbach> dpm, no, you :)
[17:19] <dpm> nothing like blaming someone else :)
[17:19] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, That's fine. I can do that however I don't have a lot of experience with doing it this way. I shall see what I can do
[17:20] <dholbach> DS-McGuire, I know that's not as nice as using a proper SDK or something, but to make up for it we have some documentation in the HACKING file :)
[17:20] <dholbach> DS-McGuire, thanks a lot for your help!
[17:20] <Elleo> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtubuntu-sensors/+bug/1398806
[17:20] <popey> awww
[17:21] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, Not a problem. I really want to use HTML5 in Ubuntu touch as much as possible and this is a great start with a good idea.
[17:21] <dholbach> dpm, ok... partly you :)
[17:21] <dholbach> dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/test-suite-fixes/+merge/252480 :)
[17:22] <dholbach> dpm, lines 22ff of the MP are probably what you looked at earlier, right?
[17:25] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, How are you testing the app? Pushing it to an Ubuntu Device?
[17:25] <DS-McGuire> Seems that's the only way
[17:25] <dholbach> DS-McGuire, or just launch it in a browser once you've built either the web or phone variant
[17:26] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, Okay :)
[17:28] <dholbach> balloons, or maybe you can take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/test-suite-fixes/+merge/252480
[17:28] <dholbach> I'll call it a day now
[17:28] <dholbach> have a good one everyone and see you tomorrow!
[17:30] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, o/ Have a good dayt
[17:31] <dholbach> :)
[17:47] <karni> popey: Hi Alan :) Just heads up I sent you an e-mail re: Telegram release. Cheers!
[17:48] <popey> karni: super
[17:48] <karni> :)
[17:51] <DS-McGuire> mhall119, Are you here? I have a question
[17:56] <DS-McGuire> popey, Could you help me out since mhall119 is away? I am trying to replicate the QML apps header on HTML5, see image: http://imgur.com/glar8UJ mhall119 Mentioned somebody did this in his talk at scale, do you know here I can find out about this?
[17:56] <popey> DS-McGuire: that would be daker
[17:57] <DS-McGuire> popey, Is he the "HTML" guy? haha!
[17:57] <popey> beuno: app store is busted. I am trying to upload an updated click but the submit button at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/1501/upload/ never stops being grey.
[17:57] <popey> DS-McGuire: he's the guy mhall119 talked about at SCALE
[17:57] <beuno> popey, indeed it is
[17:57] <beuno> we are working on it
[17:57] <popey> yay
[17:57] <DS-McGuire> popey, fantastic, thank you
[17:57] <popey> ok
[17:57] <popey> beuno: lemme know when I can try again pls
[17:58] <beuno> will do, it's a popular queue that one
[18:05] <beuno> popey, try again?
[18:06] <popey> beuno: still seems unwell.
[18:06] <beuno> k
[18:06] <popey> oh, now it passed
[18:06] <beuno> it's settling down
[18:06] <popey> just took a while
[18:06] <beuno> right
[18:06] <beuno> popey, upload is fine?  this is an update to an existing app, yes?
[18:06] <popey> yes
[18:06] <beuno> thanks
[18:06] <popey> "Waiting for package scan to complete..."
[18:07] <beuno> ah
[18:07] <beuno> so not done done
[18:09] <popey> yeah, still waiting
[18:13] <popey> beuno: There was an unrecoverable error during the scan process. Please resubmit your application.
[18:13] <popey> CONTEXT: pollScanResultsSuccess:poll-timeout
[18:13] <beuno> popey, try once more?
[18:14] <beuno> (we're debugging)
[18:14] <popey> ok
[19:31] <DS-McGuire> balloons, Can we talk about the Help app?
[19:47] <DS-McGuire> popey, Do you know anything about the help app? I need to know what direction the guys are looking for and it seems everyone is away.
[19:55] <balloons> DS-McGuire, let's talk!
[19:57] <DS-McGuire> balloons, I just want to know where we are trying to go with Help. I don't know where to start as there isn't any content at the moment.
[20:00] <balloons> DS-McGuire, we have a launchpad project, and some initial content now: https://launchpad.net/help-app
[20:00] <balloons> You can grab the code and add some new content; bzr branch lp:help-app
[20:00] <balloons> you can also view the content locally on your pc, or generate a click easily and load it on a device
[20:01] <DS-McGuire> balloons, That I have done. It looked like this when I started: http://i.imgur.com/y4BO7EE.png Is that the most up to date?
[20:02] <balloons> DS-McGuire, click the take me to the faq!. Does it have content?
[20:02] <balloons> what's in the branch (assuming you are up to date) is what we have, and we'd appreciate any further content :-)
[20:03] <balloons> you might need to bzr pull to get the updates
[20:03] <DS-McGuire> Takes me to: Get your questions answered. and a hyperlink to apps in there
[20:03] <balloons> DS-McGuire, yea, sounds like it's old. Update the branch and you'll see the new stuff
[20:03] <DS-McGuire> I am trying to work on styling more than anything
[20:03] <balloons> ohh, even better
[20:03] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/help-app/+bug/1416385
[20:04] <DS-McGuire> Ah, okay. Well thanks for this, I am sorry but I need to shoot off right now, I will be back later on tonight if you are here.
[20:04] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/help-app/+bug/1420408
[20:04] <balloons> DS-McGuire, sure.. feel free to leave questions and I'll respond, or send a long a mail
[20:04] <balloons> I'd love to see a new theme!
[20:04] <balloons> But there should be plenty of content for theming if you update
[20:04] <balloons> cheers
[20:06] <DS-McGuire> balloons, Fantastic, feel free to assign that bug to me Daniel McGuire and I will be sure to fix it up. Toodals! o/
[20:16] <beuno> popey, we are back
[20:19] <popey> lemme try
[20:21] <popey> beuno: nice
[20:22] <popey> beuno: all done, thanks
[20:25] <newsages> hiiiiii
[20:25] <newsages> what emulator i need to use QT 5.4 an kit 15.04 ?