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tewardsarnold: wrt glue records, can you explain a little bit on what exactly that is...?01:42
tewardi understand the concept... but... :/01:45
tewardwell, actually, i think i have a solution... *shrugs*01:45
tewardmy more stupid questoin: how can i configure a mailserver to accept relay for aliases from google mailservers or other mailservers outside my network01:48
tewardor should i go and set up a full email server, postfix, etc. and mailman?01:48
jiridoHi. I have installed vsftpd and want to sighn and validate my clients certificates against my own ca authority. Is it possible?05:42
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jak2000hi all07:51
jak2000how to ask if a file exists in a bash scripting file?07:51
Sling[ -f /pathtofile ]07:56
jak2000i edn a line with a ; ?08:02
jak2000*end08:02
jak2000Sling: http://pastie.org/1001563908:03
jak2000wich is wrong?08:03
Slingjak2000: google for it :) you are missing a ; indeed08:05
Slingif [ -f /file ]; then08:05
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lordievaderGood morning.08:59
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haitharre10:52
haitharGot this question yesterday, after some hours when going home I just left the window open, now it's past the window history, can't find where the channel is logged, sorry if someone has answered it :/  ssssooo,10:52
Sling21:45:15 < haithar> pmatulis: thanks! About understanding "sponsorship" in this context, do you think comments 16 and 18 suggest that I can contact him and offer money to Oleg / his favourite charity /... to keep pushing it so it gets into trusty?10:52
haitharContext: I'd like to roll out trusty for our Squid proxy park. There's an open bug in trusty which drops cache hit rate from 80% to 10%. Since I can't reliably code in C and know zero about the Ubuntu bugfixing lifecycle, I'm willing to offer a small amount of $$ for anyone who's willing to push that bug through the pipes so it'd appear in trusty.10:52
haithar>10:52
Sling22:09:03 < pmatulis> haithar: ubuntu development is not a free-for-all.  changes are backported according to certain guidelines.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates10:52
Slingthat ?10:53
haitharwow man thanks10:53
haitharyep10:53
Slingok :)10:53
strikovhaithar: do you mean Vary-header bug?10:53
haitharyep10:53
haitharsince we're using CDN for images etc. squid basically caches favicon.ico only :)10:54
OpenTokixhaithar: replace squid with nginx, - squid is a piece of shit10:54
strikovhaithar: i saw your merge request for trusty and response that i needs to be fixed in vivid first; just fyi -- i has been fixed in vivid dew days ago10:54
haitharcan nginx reverse proxy?10:54
OpenTokixhaithar: yes10:55
OpenTokixhaithar: like seven billion times better then squid10:55
haitharstrikov: kudos man!10:55
OpenTokixhaithar: also support spdy-sockets and modern tech like that. - Also super easy to make a dual stack frontend, for your ipv4 backend etc.10:56
haitharstrikov: I'll be honest, I don't think I have the capacity to fully understand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates , even though I reckon it must contain all infos. Do you think there's a chance for this to appear in trusty? Is it appropriate to offer a small $$ for you to help that process?10:57
haitharOpenTokix: thanks for the suggestion. Trying nginx is on my bucket list for years. I'll look into it.10:58
OpenTokixhaithar: do it, do it now. - You will hate yourself for wasting time on squid10:58
strikovhaithar: I don't think that $$ make any sense in that case. SRU process is mostly about (value for all users) / (potential issues for all users).10:59
haitharOpenTokix: just to be on the safe side, can you send me a link with open nginx bugs in trusty? ;)10:59
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OpenTokixhaithar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty?field.searchtext=nginx&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= <-- all four of them, 50% relating ...11:00
OpenTokix... to "default config"11:00
haitharstrikov: yeah that's something I don't get, ever since people are using CDNs, this issue renders Squid useless in trusty for reverse proxying. Sounds like a high-impact thing for me, but hey, I'm in sysops for like 2 months after a 10 year gap:)11:01
OpenTokixso not really a bug per say11:01
haitharOpenTokix: thanks, checking it now11:01
strikovrbasak: Morning. What's your opinion on the squid3 vary-header bug? Do we have any chance to get positive response for the SRU? haithar really wants to have this bug fixed11:01
ReScOhow can i monitor with a cronjob if there are new updates?12:32
ReScOwithout actually installing them?12:33
ReScOi prefer to do this with a bash script12:33
OpenTokixReScO: yes, there is a program for it even12:34
OpenTokixReScO: apticron or something, you can tell it to either install, or mail about them etc.12:34
OpenTokixyes, apticron12:34
lordievaderOr cron-apt.12:35
OpenTokixlordievader: cron-apt will install, apticron report12:35
lordievaderAh, check.12:35
lordievaderThought you could set cron-apt to not install stuff though.12:36
ReScOi don't want to receive emails12:36
OpenTokixReScO: Where do you want the report ?12:36
ReScOi'm looking for a bash implementation so i can use curl to send a PushBullet message12:36
OpenTokixReScO: check the manpage fro apt-get, it has tools for getting info about what updates is available12:36
rbasakReScO: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check. This is what the motd uses.12:37
rbasakReScO: if you want more detail, you could use apt-get --simulate12:38
ReScOi only need that, thanks :)12:38
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ReScOhmm, i'm having trouble splitting the output of that script, rbasak12:49
ReScO$(echo $IN | tr ";" "\n")  IN=$(/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check)12:50
rbasakReScO: looks like it outputs to stderr. Which is bad. That should probably be a bug.13:20
rbasakBut you can redirect using 2>&113:21
rbasakAnd then eg. cut -d\; -f1 (and -f2)13:21
OpenTokix/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check 2>&1|tr ";" "\n"13:22
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arcskywhat logs do you guys sends to your external syslog servers?14:19
jpdsAll of them from syslog?14:20
jpdsauditd.14:20
arcskywhich logs from /var/log/ are more important?14:22
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jpdsarcsky: Only you know the answer to that questio.14:23
jpdsarcsky: My RSS reader logs things to tt-rss.log.14:23
jpdsarcsky: I'm not too fussed about that so I just put it into my backups.14:24
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caribouutlemming: smoser: anyone of you aware of issues with the trusty ubuntu cloud image not applying the "ubuntu-pass=" kernel parameter ?14:25
cariboujust checking before I dig in further14:25
caribouI can reproduce the problem easily with the current image. works fine with Precise14:25
smosercaribou, i dont know that that was ever really officially supported.14:26
smoser'uncloud-init', right ?14:27
caribousmoser: it's well documented here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images/KVMKernelOptions14:27
caribousmoser: yes14:27
caribousmoser: doesn't mean it is supported though14:28
smosercaribou, i'd much rather teach someone how to use the nocloud seed.14:29
smoserhttp://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2013/02/using-ubuntu-cloud-images-without-cloud.html14:30
caribouthat could be an option14:30
caribousmoser: ah, yes I used to do a lot of that before uvtools. Still do for some debian makedumpfile testing14:31
smoseruvtool does it under the covers.14:32
arcskyhey i have added a line in my /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, auth.* @192.168.168.199:516 and restarted. but now when i do an ssh login i cant see that it sends a syslog message to that host. what do i do wrong?14:39
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Walexarcsky: 'man rsyslog.conf | grep -w port'15:14
arcskyWalex: No manual entry for rsyslog.conf15:15
arcskyProtocol udp/tcp [default udp] and i use udp15:16
samba35i was using ovs version 1.9 with bridge compatibility mode (brcompt)  but now after host upgrade now i have to use ovs version 2.0.2 . now i have create VLAN with ovs 2.0.2 but i have no idea which mode i should use15:38
samba35i want to use vlan in guest with 1 interface15:38
samba35and 2 nic with pci- passthrought but that is not problem at present15:38
samba35using ubuntu 14.04.215:39
samba35is there any way i can use older version of openvswitch (ovs)15:39
samba35i am using ubuntu 14.04.2 , i have openvswitch version 2.0.2 but i want to use 1.9 version of ovs ,is there a possiblity to use old version of software16:04
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designbybeckI have a test Ubuntu server I'm playing with remotely. I'm ssh'd into it and just ran updates. what is the best way to setup and remote into it via GUI?19:21
tewarddesignbybeck: ubuntu servers don't get GUIs by default19:22
tewarddesignbybeck: you have to manually install a setup, install / configure desktop sharing, etc.19:22
designbybeckcorrect teward I think I did install Xubuntu19:22
designbybeckI'm using cloud at cost servers.. and they have a console that pulls it up19:23
designbybeckI'm just trying to learn how to do it without the console teward19:23
RoyKjust install ssh server19:25
RoyKapt-get install openssh-server19:25
designbybeckRoyK, I can get in via ssh, I'm trying to get into GUI19:26
designbybecklike Remote Desktop19:26
designbybeckRDP?19:26
RoyKdesignbybeck: not a server thing19:26
designbybeckJust trying to learn19:27
designbybeckI'll keep playing with it19:27
tewarddesignbybeck: that's not a server thing though - that's what me and RoyK are saying19:28
designbybeckright gotcha19:29
designbybeckthanks19:29
bekksdesignbybeck: For getting into the GUI, you have to install one, before.19:29
designbybeckthat is what I'm asking some other coworkers, they are debating ;)19:30
tewardthis also isn't Windows19:30
tewardWindows Server does a GUI - but that's Windows19:30
bekksYeah :)19:30
designbybeckyeah I don't do windows!19:30
designbybeckI'm a Linux power end users so to speak!19:31
bekksdesignbybeck: So all you need is ssh :)19:31
designbybeckJust don't know much about server side and such19:31
tewarddesignbybeck: then you can't claim to be a power end user19:35
tewarddesignbybeck: I'm a power end user - i use the terminal for a lot of things that are 'simple' over the GUI but that's by choice19:35
tewardI also backport software I need for both server *and* GUI19:35
tewardbut you can't claim to be a power user if you don't understand the console19:35
tewardanyways, i am trying to achieve the most basic way of setting up a mailnig list - via postfix aliases - problem is it's saying relay denied.  I need google mail servers and my university's mail server to communicate to my server and work - not sure how to achieve this though19:37
designbybeckteward, ok maybe power user was a bad term to use. What I meant was I know a good deal of the common Linux DE's and managing DE's as well as design/media/photography using Linux and Open Source Software19:45
patdk-wkdesignbybeck, you want #ubuntu19:47
patdk-wkgui's are not part of server, so people in here will have limited knowhow to do that, if at all19:47
teward^ that19:47
patdk-wkcause it's just not done in here19:47
patdk-wkbut most likely your looking for vnc or nx19:48
designbybeckyes working on trying to get logged in with vnc, thank you guys19:48
patdk-wkteward need to know what you mean by a mailinglist and aliases file19:49
patdk-wkyou mean your running a *real* mailing list software? or just using aliases?19:49
tewardpatdk-wk: just using aliases19:49
patdk-wkand the relay denied is totally different issue19:49
patdk-wkso likely, it's just badly misconfigured then19:49
patdk-wkpostconf -n dump somewhere19:50
patdk-wkand probably a few log lines just so we all know19:50
tewardpatdk-wk: well, bad news is, i am currently debugging a ftbfs in nginx on my sbuild instance, trying to figure out why19:51
tewardthen i have other things for work on my todo list that need to be done within the next 30 minutes before i can go onto working on that part19:52
patdk-wkwell, I will probably only be around for the next few years19:52
teward(i'm only alive now 'cause i was waiting for that build to finish)19:52
tewardPO19:52
teward:P *19:52
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edenisthey23:02
delinquentmecommand line util to list all headers at a given url?23:13
sarnolddelinquentme: HEAD ?23:14
delinquentmesarnold, curl -I23:14
sarnoldthat's three more characters :)23:15
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arcskyhow can i send syslog messages to an external syslog server? i get no success with the crappy rsyslog23:57

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